acentauri wrote:LHR : AA, BA
DUB: AA, EI
FRA: AA, LH
CDG: AA, DL
This gives them lots of breathing room for growth - they could expand new cargo into the space, move UPS there and put in an additional runway (or use it to replace 27R), they could move economy parking there and add a Terminal G AND move most of the Cargo City facilities there to put in add a larg...Jump to post
Not sure how this would play into this, but isn't Philadelphia still on the shortlist for Amazon's HQ2? This could be a way of bolstering the city's bid. I am highly skeptical the ability of PHL to accommodate new cargo facilities would have any impact on Philadelphia's HQ2 bid based on the timing ...Jump to post
Interesting development. I believe this land was supposed to be dedicated to the relocation of the UPS facility. But with the additional runway project on permanent hold and your previous posts that sound like UPS is expanding it's current footprint I guess the airport wanted to see how else they c...Jump to post
That might work, because there is a large Jewish population in the Dallas area. And no one has ever flown DFW-TLV nonstop. But it won't be the first route to TLV American will launch. First would be PHL, as pointed above since no airline has yet ever flown PHL-TLV nonstop, or maybe JFK and MIA even...Jump to post
I'm really curious about how they look at PHL/TTN... PHL got SAV while TTN got CHS, curious as to the thought/strategy there. I too am trying to understand their intentions with TTN. I am not sure what they are going for (no judgement here - just not understanding). However, note that CHS already h...Jump to post
PHL-DFW is 3x weekly, A320
PHL-IND is 2x weekly (MF), A320
PHL-GRR is 2x weekly (MF), A320
FIrst time F9 will serve DFW and GRR but they did prior serve IND from PHL for one summer season two years back.
IND and GRR will be the only F9 flights at PHL that are less than 3x weekly.
Again the gist is true but this is very exaggerated. See my post in this thread from 2 weeks ago. The 2018 numbers are the lowest since 2004 or only 13 years ago (not 20-25). Also the 2017 passenger number should be around 29.5 million. PHL's annual passenger count has been nearly flat over the las...Jump to post
PHL is going to see the lowest passenger total in the past 20-25 years. But 2018 will be somewhat of a bounce back year with 4 new international flights. It is quite amazing how a city of this size has had every form of excess capacity squeezed out of it by AA compared to the US days. My last few t...Jump to post
Many on here have mentioned that the simplification of the carriers is understandable but are pointing out disagreement with removing terminals from the destination tables. Now that the tables are simplified, perhaps it is worth proposing to add back the terminal column? There is no difference in sa...Jump to post
PHL is going to see the lowest passenger total in the past 20-25 years. But 2018 will be somewhat of a bounce back year with 4 new international flights. The gist is true but a little exaggerated. The 2017 numbers are trending towards about 29.5 million. The last time annual passengers were that lo...Jump to post
Here's all the 2018 domestic adds so far 2/15/18 DCA-TLH 4/3/18 DFW-OAK 4/3/18 PHX-AMA 4/3/18 PHX-OKC 4/3/18 DCA-LIT 4/3/18 DCA-MYR 4/3/18 JFK-PHL 5/4/18 ORD-YVR 5/4/18 DCA-VPS 5/4/18 LAX-FLG 5/4/18 ORD-CHS 5/7/18 DCA-ILM 6/7/18 DCA-MGM 6/7/18 JFK-DEN 6/7/18 DFW-AVL 6/7/18 LAX-BZN 6/7/18 LGA-TVC 6/...Jump to post
I think the AA PHL-JFK flight isn’t *worse* for anyone, it’s just giving NYC travelers better international options from their PHL hub. Delta has been flying the route (for the opposite- giving PHL travelers more options from JFK) with 757s on a thirty minute flight recently. AA has shifted a few f...Jump to post
Wow, I was wondering if this might happen given the F9 PHL announcement last week! This is great news for all those small cities! These are some VERY good schedules! The OMA-PHL flight is about 30 minutes too early, otherwise all the other times are perfect for many reasons! Eh, the PHL-SAT-PHL tim...Jump to post
According to Jasper Spruit, director of route development at OSL, he expects a us carrier to launch a new route to Oslo soon. Anyone know who, and from where? The quote is from this article. https://www.dn.no/nyheter/2017/10/06/0819/Oslo-lufthavn/norge-i-forhandlinger-om-forenklet-gardermoen-kontro...Jump to post
A third runway is not really an option. You have I-95 on one side, the Delaware River on (basically) two sides, and quite a bit of industry all around. Coming off the merger, I don't really think AA is going to want to sink much more money into PHL right now. Now that there are fewer flights post U...Jump to post
Would have been nice to see OKC get a flight or two to PHL. With UA making their EWR flight seasonal, might've been an opportunity for AA to pick up some international connections. Guess the good people of OKC will continue to have to go through DFW and CLT and wait for F9 to try OKC-PHL. OKC defin...Jump to post
Also, per the PHL announcement, looks like as of March 25 AA will upgrade one of its daily flights to LAX to a 332 (not sure what it is being upgraded from).
http://www.phl.org/Press%20Releases/AA% ... ct%204.pdf
jetsetter629 wrote:AA has recently added Midwest service out of CLT to destinations like OMA, DSM, PIA, MSN, and OKC and would like to see the same out of PHL too
Announced on Sep 26, F9 is adding more PHL service to JAX, MEM, MSN, & OMA. MSN and OMA are both currently unserved markets. JAX - 4x weekly as of Feb 14, 2018 MEM - 4x weekly as of April 9, 2018 MSN - 3x weekly as of April 8, 2018 OMA - 4x weekly as of April 9, 2018 All new service is on A320 a...Jump to post
Now I wonder if AA will upgrade PHL-CDG Good question. With the AA already cutting BOS and 1x daily JFK rotations to CDG in S18, they still kept the A332 on the route. Does adding the DL PHL-CDG cut warrent an upgauge to the A333? In 2016, DL had about a 70% load factor and just shy of 30k passenge...Jump to post
http://www.postandcourier.com/business/frontier-airlines-to-outline-new-charleston-flights-tuesday/article_ff59c92a-9caf-11e7-b14c-fbe36f976857.html CHS routes will be announced as well... It looks like PHL will get back on the F9 expansion train after I believe only gaining SJU service in the past...Jump to post
DL inherited the PHL-CDG route from Air France, since DL flies 752s and AF doesn't, and that's how much traffic the route could support. That after a few years of seasonal trading off between DL 752s in winter and AF 744s in summer. Terminating this route entirely in summer strikes me as very odd. ...Jump to post
usairways85 wrote:I guess PHL did not preform so hot in the first summer of operation. My rough math shows a 10% decrease in seats for S18.
With S18 TA changes to date, seat capacity to Europe will be up about 12% in S18 over S17. See below: (Note that this is a static look in peak summer. This does not account for elongated seasons for summer routes.) Weekly Seats PHL-Europe Destination S17 S18 Change % Change Notes London 15,358 14,30...Jump to post
klwright69 wrote:This thread has gone off topic (as they typically do).
ORD-VCE and PHL-PRG/BUD are seasonal right?
These routes sound like slam dunks, if they are only operating for 4 months a year.
Not sure if its news or not but it appears that in addition to JFK losing one of its flights to CDG, Boston is also losing its seasonal service to CDG.
http://airlinegeeks.com/2017/08/16/amer ... 18-routes/
LIPZ wrote:Just wondering why they don't switch the overcrowded JFK-MXP route (too much competion) to PHL as well (just like ZRH).
Since the merger was announced, I always felt AA would eventually focus its northeast hub, and TATL gateway, at PHL. With some JFK flights possibly shifted to PHL. Looks that is happening. AA/US continues the merger tradition of closing, or significantly cutting back on a hub and in this case it's ...Jump to post
This is the full list targeted European destinations. They are also targeting any South America or Asia service and I believe any European service. They just broke down the incentive program into sections, one of which calls out these targeted destinations. Interesting choices then. Notably missing...Jump to post
FWIW, it appears PHL launched a new carrier/new service incentive program in May 2017. Among other things they specifically outlined targeted destinations within Europe. There are a number of qualifications/stipulations but the big one is that the carrier must not have served the route within the p...Jump to post
Philly.com is reporting that BA will be adding the 10PM PHL-LHR departure back to the schedule beginning April 9th. Does that mean AA will be dropping their late PHL-LHR flight next summer? http://www.philly.com/philly/business/british-airways-will-add-a-second-daily-flight-to-london-in-april-20170...Jump to post
This is what I had expected the day the AA/US merger was announced. However, there has yet to be concrete examples of this so I will believe it when I see it. Both the supposed two new transatlantic routes from PHL in S18 as well as a larger push for AA passengers to fly int'l through PHL over JFK.Jump to post
I hope WN will move into more transcon markets as they take more Maxes and add red eye flying (OAK-EWR year round, OAK-BOS, OAK-PHL, etc. OAK-JFK?). OAK will be a likely focus there in addition to whenever Hawaii starts. The legacies have shown no inclination to increase service after slashing it i...Jump to post
:| 85 new routes and not one to PHL.....oh well, nice to see CLT get a few new additions too, anyway congrats to all the other cities and hope they succeed. I am surprised PHL has not gotten LAS yet, but F9 already has a rather extensive warm weather network from PHL so not all that surprising that...Jump to post
F9, as said, is likely but as for new destinations - top F9 stations include DEN, MCO, LAS, ORD, ATL, and PHL. Of these, OKC does not have service to just PHL. They also do not have service to CLE and CVG as well as MIA and TPA which are also warm weather stations.Jump to post
wn676 wrote:It's been confirmed previously that AA intends to launch two new transatlantic routes out of PHL next summer on LAA metal.
For PHL I could see them possibly add DUS, TXL, MXP or OSL DUS and TXL to me have always seemed like the next logical options for new TA destinations for AA at PHL, IF they are in fact trying to expand their network (emphasis on IF). Although, would additional Germanc routes impact FRA or MUC? MXP ...Jump to post
So far, there's no indication I can see that 763's will be used on PHL routes AA already publicly announced it because they knew the LUS PHL crews would be PO'd about it. PHL-LIS is already in the schedule as a LAA 763 and there are two new LAA 763 PHL-Europe routes coming next summer, AA just has ...Jump to post
I'm not so sure the Frontier schedule change is insignificant. It appears to be a very significant business model change. Perhaps it is an error but there appears to be major changes in the works. My guess is this is only the beginning. If one looks closely, there are market increases and decreases...Jump to post
I really wish they would fly to PHL. The fares on AC and AA out of PHL are significantly higher than the fares out of EWR, yet the flights on AC that I take are always full. I feel like PD could do well here. I have mixed feelings about this. Obviously, I would be ecstatic to see PT on this route b...Jump to post
In Scandinavia they say "SAS."Jump to post
F9 DEN-ORD AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 0.1>0.0 F9 DEN-PHL AUG 2.0>1.4 SEP 2.0>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 0.1>0.0 F9 DEN-PHX AUG 2>1.4 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 NOV 0.1>0.0 Is F9 actually cutting these to 0 or is it an anomaly since they are doing a frequency reduction, but the open booking schedule ends 11/...Jump to post
If Southwest were to add nonstop service from PHL to additional Midwestern cities, which Midwestern cities would Southwest add nonstop service to first? From the PHL side of the equation, I am not too optimistic (though certainly would welcome) new Midwestern services on WN. The recent expansion by...Jump to post