Just a quick look and it looks like many of the lowest frequency routes from last summer out of PHL are gone: CVG, MCI, MEM, MKE, MSN, OMA, PNS Most of those were 2-3x weekly last year. I haven't done a comparison of returning routes but I wonder how the overall seat count compares. Undoubtedly are ...
Jump to postAA adds 3x weekly 788 PHL-LAX https://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/287326/american-adds-boeing-787-philadelphia-los-angeles-service-in-1q20/ Appears to simply replace the 332 three days a week. I tried to find where it goes the rest of the week and did not find anything. Looking at the...
Jump to postPersonally, I would like to see routes like ATH, BUD, PRG, and VCE extended to start in early April and to run a few extra weeks at the end of the summer season (as well as BCN) since these routes are all run out of ORD too. Up to two daily flights in April or November in the AA system may be too m...
Jump to postAs currently loaded, summer seasonal TATL routes of PHL start as of the following: March 28: BCN, EDI, LIS (these routes started April 2 last summer) May 7: ATH, BUD, PRG, SNN, VCE (these routes started May 3 last summer) June 4-5: CMN, DBV, KEF, TXL (DBV and TXL started June 7 last summer) I believ...
Jump to posthttps://www.phl.org/drupalbin/media/PHL ... 8-8-19.pdf
Jump to postJust want to post a thank you to this thread. Even though we all have different opinions, it is great to see a level-headed discourse on this topic!
Jump to postThey do not list the metric used to measure these so it is hard to hold them with a ton of weight. I am surprised to see Doha above Rome and Montreal above Dublin Yea true I do wish they gave out data for this article for their reasoning. I could be wrong but I would guess they get their data from ...
Jump to postF9 has extended their schedule until mid-November. While we will need to wait until the next schedule extension to see which routes will stick through the winter season, overall it seems like continued growth at PHL. Some of the key frequency changes/extensions from August to November are below. (I ...
Jump to postDoes anyone have the Transatlantic LF from PHL for the summer months? PHL TATL Load Factors May-August 2018: AMS: 81.5% ATH: 84.0% BCN: 77.5% BUD: 80.8% CDG: 80.6% DOH: 81.1% DUB: 84.4% (AA 83.5%, EI 85.7%) FCO: 84.4% FRA: 80.3% (AA 78.2%, LH 82.0%) GLA: 81.7% KEF: 78.5% LHR: 77.4% (AA 73.0%, BA 84...
Jump to postApology in advance - this is not news, just wishful amateur thinking... With the first 788 routes coming to PHL in Jan 2020 (as of now) replacing a mix of 767 and 332 routes, I still wonder if AA will use of subfleet of A321neos as a 757 replacement for thin TATL routes, perhaps with ~16 lie-flat bu...
Jump to postThe PHL capacity solution is well defined and approved by the Government. it's called the "Capacity Enhancement Program" (https://www.faa.gov/airports/environmental/records_decision/phl/media/rod_phl_201012_figures.pdf). The approved redesign is illustrated in Figure 2-1. Unfortunately, t...
Jump to postMore F9 announcements today for PHL: Atlanta (ATL): 3x A320 begins April 30 (this was last flown two summers ago I believe) Las Vegas (LAS): daily A320 begins April 30 (first time F9 is overflying DEN - many expected this route to come) Myrtle Beach (MYR): 3x A320 begins April 30 Pensacola (PNS): 3x...
Jump to postI was referring to the entire new master plan that was promoted just a couple of years ago. Has the whole thing been scrapped along with the 3rd parallel? http://www.phl.org/Pages/Chellie%27s-Podcasts.aspx http://cdp.phl.org/AnticipatedOpportunities.html Well here is some information about the proj...
Jump to postOn AA 787s at PHL - I would not expect any additional 787s to actually begin service in 2019 beyond the already announced MAN and ZRH in November though I do expect many more announcements that will begin in 2020, particularly regarding some of the remaining 763 summer TATL routes. Additional 788s s...
Jump to postDue to the Air Berlin collapse, lots of talk about Dusseldorf but that never materialized. Also that EDI is returning to PHL, but that’ll wait til next summer for now. As mentioned, terminal space will be maxed this summer with the use of PTV highly likely. PHL MEX nonstop is in the plans ............
Jump to postAmsterdam (AMS) Boeing 757-200 Daily Dublin (DUB) Airbus A330-200 Daily London (LHR) Airbus A330-300 Daily , Airbus A330-200 Daily Madrid (MAD) Airbus A330-200 Daily Manchester (MAN) Airbus A330-300 Daily Munich (MUC) Airbus A330-200 Daily Paris (CDG) Airbus A330-200 Daily Rome (FCO) Airbus A330-30...
Jump to postacentauri wrote:LHR : AA, BA
MAN: AA
GLA: AA
DUB: AA, EI
SNN: AA
FRA: AA, LH
MUC: AA
CDG: AA, DL
FCO: AA
VCE: AA
MAD: AA
AMS: AA
BCN: AA
ZRH: AA
PRG: AA
BUD: AA
LIS: AA
ATH: AA
RKV: ICE
DOH: QR
This gives them lots of breathing room for growth - they could expand new cargo into the space, move UPS there and put in an additional runway (or use it to replace 27R), they could move economy parking there and add a Terminal G AND move most of the Cargo City facilities there to put in add a larg...
Jump to postNot sure how this would play into this, but isn't Philadelphia still on the shortlist for Amazon's HQ2? This could be a way of bolstering the city's bid. I am highly skeptical the ability of PHL to accommodate new cargo facilities would have any impact on Philadelphia's HQ2 bid based on the timing ...
Jump to postInteresting development. I believe this land was supposed to be dedicated to the relocation of the UPS facility. But with the additional runway project on permanent hold and your previous posts that sound like UPS is expanding it's current footprint I guess the airport wanted to see how else they c...
Jump to postThat might work, because there is a large Jewish population in the Dallas area. And no one has ever flown DFW-TLV nonstop. But it won't be the first route to TLV American will launch. First would be PHL, as pointed above since no airline has yet ever flown PHL-TLV nonstop, or maybe JFK and MIA even...
Jump to postI'm really curious about how they look at PHL/TTN... PHL got SAV while TTN got CHS, curious as to the thought/strategy there. I too am trying to understand their intentions with TTN. I am not sure what they are going for (no judgement here - just not understanding). However, note that CHS already h...
Jump to postPHL-DFW is 3x weekly, A320
PHL-IND is 2x weekly (MF), A320
PHL-GRR is 2x weekly (MF), A320
FIrst time F9 will serve DFW and GRR but they did prior serve IND from PHL for one summer season two years back.
IND and GRR will be the only F9 flights at PHL that are less than 3x weekly.
Again the gist is true but this is very exaggerated. See my post in this thread from 2 weeks ago. The 2018 numbers are the lowest since 2004 or only 13 years ago (not 20-25). Also the 2017 passenger number should be around 29.5 million. PHL's annual passenger count has been nearly flat over the las...
Jump to postPHL is going to see the lowest passenger total in the past 20-25 years. But 2018 will be somewhat of a bounce back year with 4 new international flights. It is quite amazing how a city of this size has had every form of excess capacity squeezed out of it by AA compared to the US days. My last few t...
Jump to postMany on here have mentioned that the simplification of the carriers is understandable but are pointing out disagreement with removing terminals from the destination tables. Now that the tables are simplified, perhaps it is worth proposing to add back the terminal column? There is no difference in sa...
Jump to postPHL is going to see the lowest passenger total in the past 20-25 years. But 2018 will be somewhat of a bounce back year with 4 new international flights. The gist is true but a little exaggerated. The 2017 numbers are trending towards about 29.5 million. The last time annual passengers were that lo...
Jump to postHere's all the 2018 domestic adds so far 2/15/18 DCA-TLH 4/3/18 DFW-OAK 4/3/18 PHX-AMA 4/3/18 PHX-OKC 4/3/18 DCA-LIT 4/3/18 DCA-MYR 4/3/18 JFK-PHL 5/4/18 ORD-YVR 5/4/18 DCA-VPS 5/4/18 LAX-FLG 5/4/18 ORD-CHS 5/7/18 DCA-ILM 6/7/18 DCA-MGM 6/7/18 JFK-DEN 6/7/18 DFW-AVL 6/7/18 LAX-BZN 6/7/18 LGA-TVC 6/...
Jump to postI think the AA PHL-JFK flight isn’t *worse* for anyone, it’s just giving NYC travelers better international options from their PHL hub. Delta has been flying the route (for the opposite- giving PHL travelers more options from JFK) with 757s on a thirty minute flight recently. AA has shifted a few f...
Jump to postWow, I was wondering if this might happen given the F9 PHL announcement last week! This is great news for all those small cities! These are some VERY good schedules! The OMA-PHL flight is about 30 minutes too early, otherwise all the other times are perfect for many reasons! Eh, the PHL-SAT-PHL tim...
Jump to postAccording to Jasper Spruit, director of route development at OSL, he expects a us carrier to launch a new route to Oslo soon. Anyone know who, and from where? The quote is from this article. https://www.dn.no/nyheter/2017/10/06/0819/Oslo-lufthavn/norge-i-forhandlinger-om-forenklet-gardermoen-kontro...
Jump to postA third runway is not really an option. You have I-95 on one side, the Delaware River on (basically) two sides, and quite a bit of industry all around. Coming off the merger, I don't really think AA is going to want to sink much more money into PHL right now. Now that there are fewer flights post U...
Jump to postWould have been nice to see OKC get a flight or two to PHL. With UA making their EWR flight seasonal, might've been an opportunity for AA to pick up some international connections. Guess the good people of OKC will continue to have to go through DFW and CLT and wait for F9 to try OKC-PHL. OKC defin...
Jump to postAlso, per the PHL announcement, looks like as of March 25 AA will upgrade one of its daily flights to LAX to a 332 (not sure what it is being upgraded from).
http://www.phl.org/Press%20Releases/AA% ... ct%204.pdf
Glad to see DSM added! Now will this impact PHL-DSM as a potential seasonal F9 route?
Jump to postjetsetter629 wrote:AA has recently added Midwest service out of CLT to destinations like OMA, DSM, PIA, MSN, and OKC and would like to see the same out of PHL too
Announced on Sep 26, F9 is adding more PHL service to JAX, MEM, MSN, & OMA. MSN and OMA are both currently unserved markets. JAX - 4x weekly as of Feb 14, 2018 MEM - 4x weekly as of April 9, 2018 MSN - 3x weekly as of April 8, 2018 OMA - 4x weekly as of April 9, 2018 All new service is on A320 a...
Jump to postNow I wonder if AA will upgrade PHL-CDG Good question. With the AA already cutting BOS and 1x daily JFK rotations to CDG in S18, they still kept the A332 on the route. Does adding the DL PHL-CDG cut warrent an upgauge to the A333? In 2016, DL had about a 70% load factor and just shy of 30k passenge...
Jump to posthttp://www.postandcourier.com/business/frontier-airlines-to-outline-new-charleston-flights-tuesday/article_ff59c92a-9caf-11e7-b14c-fbe36f976857.html CHS routes will be announced as well... It looks like PHL will get back on the F9 expansion train after I believe only gaining SJU service in the past...
Jump to postSomeone83 wrote:Wizzair is starting GDN-TOS 2x weekly from December 16th
DL inherited the PHL-CDG route from Air France, since DL flies 752s and AF doesn't, and that's how much traffic the route could support. That after a few years of seasonal trading off between DL 752s in winter and AF 744s in summer. Terminating this route entirely in summer strikes me as very odd. ...
Jump to postusairways85 wrote:I guess PHL did not preform so hot in the first summer of operation. My rough math shows a 10% decrease in seats for S18.
With S18 TA changes to date, seat capacity to Europe will be up about 12% in S18 over S17. See below: (Note that this is a static look in peak summer. This does not account for elongated seasons for summer routes.) Weekly Seats PHL-Europe Destination S17 S18 Change % Change Notes London 15,358 14,30...
Jump to postklwright69 wrote:This thread has gone off topic (as they typically do).
ORD-VCE and PHL-PRG/BUD are seasonal right?
These routes sound like slam dunks, if they are only operating for 4 months a year.
Not sure if its news or not but it appears that in addition to JFK losing one of its flights to CDG, Boston is also losing its seasonal service to CDG.
http://airlinegeeks.com/2017/08/16/amer ... 18-routes/
LIPZ wrote:Just wondering why they don't switch the overcrowded JFK-MXP route (too much competion) to PHL as well (just like ZRH).
Since the merger was announced, I always felt AA would eventually focus its northeast hub, and TATL gateway, at PHL. With some JFK flights possibly shifted to PHL. Looks that is happening. AA/US continues the merger tradition of closing, or significantly cutting back on a hub and in this case it's ...
Jump to postThis is the full list targeted European destinations. They are also targeting any South America or Asia service and I believe any European service. They just broke down the incentive program into sections, one of which calls out these targeted destinations. Interesting choices then. Notably missing...
Jump to postFWIW, it appears PHL launched a new carrier/new service incentive program in May 2017. Among other things they specifically outlined targeted destinations within Europe. There are a number of qualifications/stipulations but the big one is that the carrier must not have served the route within the p...
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