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by plinth857
Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Rumors have been flying around at UA that some CLE maybe restored next spring!, SEA,SAN,PHX,LAS have been mentioned. If all of those came back, that would be surprising. I see PHX and SEA perhaps, but SAN barely lasted as an F9 destination. If they DID bring back LAS, it begs the question why they ...

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by plinth857
Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Which routes have the lowest load factors for CLE?

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by plinth857
Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Article in this week's Crains Cleveland Business about the city's new director of port control, Robert Kennedy. He plans to merge the Div of Hopkins and Div of Burke into a single "Division of Airports" under one commissioner. This may lessen the influence BKL has in the city, though I'm ...

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by plinth857
Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34
Replies: 1037
Views: 127139

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

flyPIT wrote:
Delta had one of their A359s at PIT doing touch and go's. Plenty of pics here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pitairport/albums/72157686877576410


That front window is sexy. Just sayin'.

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by plinth857
Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

With Cleveland Indians in the baseball playoffs again, does that ever result in an upgauge of equipment from the opponent city? Or is it too "short notice" for such things to happen?

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by plinth857
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

From enilria's weekly list: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1372777&p=19832087#p19831831 Take a look at the cited post. It pretty much predicts the end of CAK and YNG. CLE and PIT are squeezing them with better choices and more frequency. Edit: the link isn't working. Try this: https://lintvwkbn.files....

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by plinth857
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

From enilria's weekly list: NK CAK-FLL MAR 1.0>0.4 APR 0.9>0.2 NK CAK-LAS MAY 1.0>0 NK CAK-MYR MAY 1.0>0.4 NK CAK-RSW APR 0.5>0.2 NK CAK-TPA APR 0.4>0.2 Is this the beginning of the end of NK at CAK, in favor of their ops at CLE? Could be. How are their load factors? Maybe the non-daily service wil...

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by plinth857
Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 9598

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Couldn't UA operate FRA service on behalf of LH like DL does for AF at PIT? CLE is a much bigger market and FRA is comparable to CDG for connections, and certainly UA has a spare 757/767 for at least seasonal service. They could, but DL has adapted this to their business model whereas UA is really ...

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by plinth857
Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 9598

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

As to UA's future in CLE, though, would there ever be a circumstance where they would expand (even if it is just a few flights)? I'm being serious, are there potential (realistic) scenarios that would result in growth rather than shrinkage?

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by plinth857
Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I've never flown F9 either and never even considered them with all the horror stories I've heard. The less-than-daily service for domestic operations, I think, is really annoying. I hope this clears the way for B6 or AS or some DL/AA/UA mainline service. F9 works in my opinion, but only on certain ...

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by plinth857
Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 9598

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Yes, UA has more gates (14) than they need for 45-50 flights a day; but they RON a bunch of planes and use most of them for that. In addition, they recently renegotiated the Concourse C lease. They could have dropped more gates than they did. So either they wanted to preserve a cheap option to expa...

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by plinth857
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 607
Views: 80169

Re: What's happening lately at SAN?

As far as I'm concerned the one and only city that UA might be able to serve as a point-to-point from SAN, with a condition, is Norfolk. That is IF United happens to be the carrier with the GSA contract for the route, or has some healthy military contract in place. I know someone mentioned who the ...

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by plinth857
Wed Sep 20, 2017 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 607
Views: 80169

Re: What's happening lately at SAN?

To the best of my knowledge, SAN will now have F9 nonstops to: AUS, CLE, COS, CVG, DEN, MCO, OKC, SAT and TUL. When factoring in seasonality, mostly sub-daily frequencies, and F9's sudden and unannounced 'changes-of-mind', it's kind of a crap shoot to try to keep track of when a particular route is...

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by plinth857
Wed Sep 20, 2017 3:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 1875
Views: 161297

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Any idea on what the load factors are for Spirit out of CAK? Is serving both CLE and CAK workable long term? Right now, it's been nice to have some different options, but I wonder how long it may last.

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by plinth857
Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

masseybrown wrote:
F9 is also bringing back CLE-LAX/DEN/PDX/SEA in April, but not SFO or SAN.


Bad load factors on the SFO flight? Granted, I only flew it once, but the plane was 90% full both ways, even on the return redeye.

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by plinth857
Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Perhaps there is good corporate business or government business that help keep this afloat; the first class cabin is always full. United Technologies has ops in both cities and they deal with NASA Glenn as well. Ahhh, I see! I thought those first class cabin guys looked a little like engineers. :lol:

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by plinth857
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I suspect BDL survives as long as it has because otherwise the plane would be sitting a lot of hours on the ground in CLE. It's an early AM or end of day flight to and from CLE on its way to/from MSP I believe. I also think loads are just hurt terribly by such a horrific frequency. I go to BDL all ...

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by plinth857
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Quick question, how is the DL BDL-CLE route still around? The 2017 LFs are pitiful Jan BDL-CLE---28.8% Feb BDL-CLE---40.6% Mar BDL-CLE---49.3% Apr BDL-CLE---64.7% May BDL-CLE---60.7% Jun BDL-CLE---61.4% According to the Q1 data from 2016 average fares were only at $225, Q2 was $211.... That's a goo...

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by plinth857
Thu Sep 14, 2017 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Icelandair to send 737MAX8 to CLE from 16 May 18 http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/274775/icelandair-outlines-737max-8-routes-in-s18/ Pretty disappointing really! Hope the flt gets upgauged at some point ! Why would this be disappointing? This is exactly why CLE can get these type of...

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by plinth857
Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017
Replies: 1875
Views: 161297

Re: The Rest Of Ohio - 2017

Those drop off in numbers are crazy. I will say I rarely see CVG as a connection option anymore and if I do it seems like it is more expensive or a longer layover. At least it is still 2x daily. I have noticed they changed the pricing to where it is much cheaper to book a RT than just a one way or ...

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by plinth857
Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

CLEguy wrote:
ATA also did charters but I'm not sure if they were on 757's or L-1011's. Martinair also ran charters for one summer to AMS (1988), but I believe they were on 757's, too.


I remember taking ATA flights on 757s from CLE to FRA with a stopover in YQX (Gander International, Canada).

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by plinth857
Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FI annouces CLE
Replies: 69
Views: 8016

Re: FI annouces CLE

This is great news! If all goes well, perhaps their FIS facility could be in for a refresh.

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by plinth857
Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN schedule extension 8/28/17
Replies: 365
Views: 37330

Re: WN schedule extension 8/28/17

The airport director for CLE at his last announcement teased "new service announcements" are forthcoming for both WN and F9. What does this mean for WN? Might CLE finally be getting the MCI flight that seems to have been in the works for quite some time?

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by plinth857
Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier, DFW/DEN, one flight per day ?!?
Replies: 18
Views: 2102

Re: Frontier, DFW/DEN, one flight per day ?!?

I was also surprised by this; I used to connect in DEN from CLE on my way to DFW; tickets were quite reasonable compared to what else was available, but the times became very inconvenient quite a few months ago.

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by plinth857
Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN schedule extension 8/28/17
Replies: 365
Views: 37330

Re: WN schedule extension 8/28/17

I would love to see a daily CLE-MCI flight. I wonder if the numbers would support it. They have the gate space at CLE; not sure about MCI. 2016 CLE-MCI PDEW(passengers daily each way) Q1-68 PDEW Q2-85 PDEW Q3-78 PDEW Q4-81 PDEW Aren't great numbers but would likely be stimulated upward if there was...

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by plinth857
Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN schedule extension 8/28/17
Replies: 365
Views: 37330

Re: WN schedule extension 8/28/17

I would love to see a daily CLE-MCI flight. I wonder if the numbers would support it. They have the gate space at CLE; not sure about MCI.

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by plinth857
Sat Jun 24, 2017 1:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

United down to 3 flights to Boston this summer. uA Loads to DCA are paltry. For instance tomorrow peak travel season on a Friday the 9am flight shows 10 people on the seat map and only one of five flight looks half full. In contrast UA is running a 739 From Dulles to cleveland now and loads look qu...

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by plinth857
Tue Jun 06, 2017 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Come September AA has scheduled 3 738's and one MD80 on CLE-DFW. I never much liked riding in the back of an MD80, but it's another milestone seeing them go. I saw that... I fly this route frequently, and I will be a little sad to see them go. I often sit up front of these, and it is nice and quite...

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by plinth857
Mon May 22, 2017 2:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Delta is adding a 4th CLE-JFK in September. It seems they really want to own CLE-NYC. They already offer the most seats in the CLE-LGA market. Plus, the DL area of LaGuardia is much better than the UA/AA area. I was there this weekend, and the restrooms and hallways are in atrocious condition, and ...

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by plinth857
Thu May 18, 2017 7:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1208
Views: 135775

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Southwest has loaded a 2x daily CLE-MKE with their latest extension this morning. How long before UA drops this? No idea, but it will test the corporate contracts they have with Eaton, Rockwell, etc. who have interests in MKE. UA did stick with BOS and many an a.netter said they would not. On the B...

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by plinth857
Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Overbooking of Flights has become a major issue.
Replies: 143
Views: 10458

Re: Overbooking of Flights has become a major issue.

Overbooking in itself is not the problem and there are advantages to it. There are no advantages for passengers because of overbooking. Unless you consider all the anxiety caused to passengers because of overbooking. Its another industry centric law that came into because of lobbying. Sorry this is...

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by plinth857
Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scott Kirby: Leaving New York’s JFK ‘Was the Wrong Decision’
Replies: 152
Views: 27503

Re: Scott Kirby: Leaving New York’s JFK ‘Was the Wrong Decision’

I wonder if any executive will ever tell the truth abut CLE and why that station was really de-hubbed. Talking with my sCO coworkers many of them are still scratching their heads trying to figure out why and if Jeff Smisek was telling the truth when he claimed CLE was loosing money or if he was lyi...

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