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Re: OAG Changes 3/3/2019: Air Italy Cancels Chicago Flights, United Cancels Massena (MSS)

AA CLT-PDX JUN 1.8>1.0[1.0] JUL 2>1.0[1.9] AUG 2>1.0[1.4] SEP 2>1.0[1.4] OCT 2>1.0[1.4] NOV 2>1.0[1.3] DEC 2>1.0[1.1]

It's a shame that they can't seem to make that second CLT flight work.

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

AA CLT-PDX JUN 1.8>1.0[1.0] JUL 2>1.0[1.9] AUG 2>1.0[1.4] SEP 2>1.0[1.4] OCT 2>1.0[1.4] NOV 2>1.0[1.3] DEC 2>1.0[1.1]
UA IAH-PDX SEP 3>2[2]
UA DEN-EUG SEP 2>3[3]

Speak of the devil, it looks like the second CLT flight is now permanently gone.

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

The lack of any LAS-TYO flight keeps coming back to me. AA knew it would be out of left field, and they still submitted it anyways. I'm sure they thought they'd capture *some* traffic - it's inevitable, but when your hub structure is off, it's only natural for the stronger players to get more slot ...

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Pardon my ignorance, but what advantage does HND have over NRT? I realize HND is quite a bit closer to Tokyo itself, and it seems like DL would be in pretty much the same position as they are now without a Japanese partner. Delta doesn't need a Japanese partner, because they have the joint-venture ...

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

FA9295 and jbpdx, thought I'd copy in AA's arguments against DL's PDX-HND here: Full PDF available for download here: https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=DOT-OST-2019-0014-0016 Delta’s Portland and Honolulu Proposals, If Granted, Will Squander Scarce Haneda Slot-Pairs While Preventing Competitio...

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Re: Washington State Thread - 2019

I bet UA will add GEG-LAX sometime in 2019. 1 flight a day (with DL) on that route is just not enough.

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

Dang, AA really argued hard against DL's proposed PDX-HND route... Whew. American lobbying for Portland to lose its longtime nonstop to Tokyo. Keep piling on and I could see AA running less than half full in and out of PDX. Interesting misrepresentation. AA doesn't argue that DL should stop flying ...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

I think the opposite is true. UA and AA can offer more than just o/d to Haneda, they can offer connections onward in Japan via their JV partners. Their routes are also more viable with feed to their routes from both ends vs. just US feed for DL. DL's past history of slot-squatting might hurt them, ...

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Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Just because there business model is different doesn't mean there isn't a market this is the same as the DTW-JAX market. Somebody needs to come in and force Delta's hand on DTW-SRQ/VPS. Northwest was a business orientated airline and they didn't force all their North South Florida traffic from thei...

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Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

For anyone who's interested even Toledo has nonstop service to VPS and please don't tell me there is more O/D from TOL than there is from DTW to VPS. My suggestion drive to TOL and send Delta a message we Detroiters don't want to connect at the mad house Atlanta we deserve better than that from our...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

So far DL is the public enemy number one? What did DL do to deserve this? (genuine puzzled, not a DL fanboy nor DLs hateman) Well DL still hasn't published their response yet. They were also the last to submit their application when the proposed routes were initially submitted to the DoT. I wonder ...

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Re: Chicago ORD El Al LY TLV 2020 New Route

Still no expansion to Texas. Is there insufficient demand? That would be accurate. Not sure why it's surprising there is "still" no Israel-Texas service. Not much of a market from Chicago, either. Well, the market in Chicago is certainly larger than LAS and MCO, in which they are starting...

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

It would appear that with all of the recent discussions pertaining to Delta's PDX-HND route filing with the DOT that we missed a milestone last week (02-21-2019). On that date the construction crews at the PDX Concourse E extension project reached the significant step of placing the last beam atop ...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

It's the showtime! Look at the United response. "Delta, one of the world’s largest airlines, continues to revise history to paint itself a victim of competition, when in fact it is a victim of its own Asia strategy." "In addition, Delta continues to skew reality to match its narrativ...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

Dang, AA really argued hard against DL's proposed PDX-HND route...

To be honest, I can't say I really blame them. But almost all AA's argument against Delta's entire application had to do with PDX-HND. Very interesting.

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FA9295

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

https://www.regulations.gov/document?D= ... -0014-0016

FA9295

Re: Chicago ORD El Al LY TLV 2020 New Route

They probably saw everyone on a.net begging for the flight and decided to start it.

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Re: B6 Situation

I can’t see any of the Big 3 legacies acquiring B6; they’re all large in the NY area in different ways, meaning the DOJ would want so much divested that the deal wouldn’t be worth it. Should B6 end up with anyone, your logical suitors are AS, F9, or NK, although SY would be an interesting possibili...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

Nicknuzzii wrote:
Anyone know what time the routes will be announced tomorrow?

The airlines are submitting formal responses to each of their opponent's route applications tomorrow (as required by the DOT). The official routes will be announced on March 7th.

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FA9295

Re: B6 Announces Major BOS Expansion

Nope PDX BOS not going to happen...next And why exactly would you say that...? Not sure if Blueknows means DL or B6 but hasn't AS defended this route a bit even loading double daily in winter to keep B6 from going year-round? Also - I've read 500 people relocate to PDX each week and that rate has b...

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Re: B6 Announces Major BOS Expansion

Nope PDX BOS not going to happen...next And why exactly would you say that...? Not sure if Blueknows means DL or B6 but hasn't AS defended this route a bit even loading double daily in winter to keep B6 from going year-round? Also - I've read 500 people relocate to PDX each week and that rate has b...

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Re: B6 Announces Major BOS Expansion

If JetBlue wants to do something really new, they should make the shuttle "Hop On, Hop Off": You buy a ticket for a specific day, but can show up anytime during that day. First come, first served. That's quite an interesting idea. Does any airline (not just in the U.S.) have that kind of ...

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Re: B6 Announces Major BOS Expansion

Blueknows wrote:
Nope PDX BOS not going to happen...next

And why exactly would you say that...?

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Re: Thai Airways suspends flights to Europe due to tensions between Pakistan and India

It might be an error on their part, but FlightRadar24 is showing one flight over Pakistan: https://i.postimg.cc/G9NHTckF/AZA.jpg It might be a mistake, but the rest of the screen is showing a great big void over Pakistan and Afghanistan. That's an error. It went around Pakistan to the south and is ...

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Re: B6 Announces Major BOS Expansion

Where's that year-round extension on PDX-BOS...? C'mon now. If they can have two daily flights in the summer, then surely they can have at least one in the fall/winter/spring as well.

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Re: jetBlue Announcement Tomorrow, 2/27?

tphuang wrote:
This seems to be some kind of promotion. Not sure why this deserves a thread.

Because we don't know for sure if that's what it is.

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FA9295

Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Frontier should just pull out of PDX. Their paltry one flight a day to Denver service wouldn’t be missed. (The worst flight I’ve ever been on was on Frontier from Denver to Portland in 2011.) Delta adding PDX-CVG would be a good replacement. Yeah, their schedule is certainly weird. IDK who would wa...

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Re: jetBlue Announcement Tomorrow, 2/27?

They're having a big sale going on right now: https://www.elitedaily.com/p/jetblues-blue-carpet-flight-sale-promo-code-will-give-you-20-percent-off-your-next-trip-16171753 Not sure what the reference to tomorrow is, but I'm skeptical of it being any new route. jetBlue is not really in the position t...

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

Apologies if it's been discussed already, but back in January, Frontier made it official that they were not resuming PDX-CLE next year: https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/01/frontier-airlines-adding-flights-from-cleveland-hopkins-to-charleston-sc-san-francisco-dropping-portland.html Quoted from...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

I see a lot of people on here making the argument that just because DL doesn't have a Japanese partner doesn't mean that they should get the majority of the slots. I'm not saying that this argument is not legitimate, but here's just a question for discussion: Who would have Delta partnered with? I d...

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Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

It's been awhile since F9 has had a significant schedule update. Is it safe to say that PDX-CLE was officially cut? There was an article published last month that stated that F9 was discontinuing PDX-CLE nonstop service, and that article can be found at https://www.cleveland.com/business/2019/01/fr...

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Re: Cleveland Aviation Thread - 2019

It's been awhile since F9 has had a significant schedule update. Is it safe to say that PDX-CLE was officially cut?

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Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

I don’t put a whole lot of trust in schedules beyond July at this point, especially on equipment type. Heck I don’t even fully trust May yet. Agreed, but given the hoopla surrounding the A220, I do find it slightly surprising. Looks like DL’s shifting A220 flying to SLC and bringing in more 717 to ...

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Re: Will A220 fly to Hawaii?

TWA772LR wrote:
The -700 has done it for Aloha and Continental. I did OGG-SNA in a CO 73G in 2010. Im actually a little surprised AS hasnt put the 73G on SNA-Hawaii, it fits their HI M.O.

AS isn't gonna want to use their SNA slots for flights to Hawaii, when they would very likely make more money elsewhere...

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Re: OAG Changes 2/24/2019: UP Drops IAH;UA Adds MSS/OGS/PIR/ATY;MS to IAD;AC Drops JAX,SEA-YYC;3M Adds MCO-VPS

Disappointing that JAX lost its only international flight. Anybody know what the JAX-YYZ loads/yields were? YYZ-JAX-YYZ (Dec 2017-Jul 2018) Month Inbound Outbound Dec 80% 69% Jan 79% 72% Feb 88% 76% Mar 85% 86% April 85% 86% May 81% 89% June 70% 89% July 86% 80% Those loads aren't terrible, but cer...

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Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/GTI ... /KMIA/KIAH

FA9295

Re: OAG Changes 2/24/2019: UP Drops IAH;UA Adds MSS/OGS/PIR/ATY;MS to IAD;AC Drops JAX,SEA-YYC;3M Adds MCO-VPS

jetbluefan1 wrote:
Any thoughts on why OAG is not yet reflecting multiple new B6 frequencies ex-BOS starting in Sep/Oct 2019?

What extra frequencies were added at BOS?

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

The other discussion that hopefully has already started at the Port of Portland is extending and/or expanding the D concourse. YES! This is very much needed, and would significantly help the port to attract more long-haul international flights. If they were to make concourse D as long as concourse ...

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

I do wonder about the A330-200 routing plan here. Someone in the main thread mentioned a few options: - The plane would do LHR-PDX-HND-PDX-LHR type route (which would require the LHR route to go daily, year round) - A330-300 replaced on PDX-AMS with -200. That's a significant drop in seats, so I fi...

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Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

People learn from discussion. Why even post the topic if we can’t discuss our thoughts, no matter how uneducated they may be? Frankly, some of the best threads have been those where a tragedy like this is discussed and hashed out in a respectful manner. I’ve learned so much from those threads. It r...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

So PDX-NRT, a a flight that is currently isn't daily for most of the year, uses some connections on both ends (on the US side, that means because the fares are cheap. Cheap fares = weak demand that isn't serving the high demand), and still has trouble filling up sees an increase to daily, a loss of...

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Re: Oregon Aviation Thread - 2019

By now, I'm sure most of you know about the incident today involving N1217A an Atlas Air Boeing 767 operated for Amazon crashed into Trinity Bay near Houston while en route from Miami. Just thought it might be worth noting that the same exact plane was at PDX just two days before the accident. https...

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Re: Atlas Air or Giant 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

That left turn is bizarre. only reason i can think of that makes sense is that they knew they were doomed and didnt want to hurt anyone on the ground. I'm thinking the same thing - the left turn isn't part of the approach. If the turn was intentional, then the pilots are heroes for not putting this...

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Re: Atlas Air 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Oh my god. I drove past that airplane this morning and saw it getting fueled for the accident flight. I can’t believe it’s destroyed now. I walked out to a plane once, it returned in a dump truck. That’s life. Very sad a crew died, one just getting a ride somewhere important. I always surprised at ...

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Re: Giant 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas_Air_Flight_3591

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Re: Giant 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

https://www.local10.com/news/local/miam ... icials-say

Such a horrible incident. And yes, it will be interesting to see what the cause of this was.

FA9295

Re: Giant 3591 Down in Trinity Bay, Texas

Man, it's been a long time since we we've had a commercial, domestic air crash with fatalities, and it's sad we ended that streak today. Many condolences to the families and friends. At least its not a passenger flight True, but there were still people on the plane. 3 (possibly confirmed?) deaths i...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

There are three US airlines/alliances (UA/Star Alliance, DL/SkyTeam, AA/OneWorld) and two Japanese airlines (JL/OneWorld, NH/Star Alliance). Who exactly is Delta supposed to partner with in Japan? No one. That's the main argument that Delta is making as to why they should have the majority of the H...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

SEA-HND (1x NH + 1x JL + 1x DL) There's absolutely no way that three separate airlines will be operating this route. The market is strong, but not that strong. NH will probably keep their route at Narita, but JL has expressed interest in moving their SEA-NRT route over to HND in the future. With th...

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Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

Here are my predictions: American: 3 slots DFW-HND (1x) LAX-HND (1x) LAS-HND (1x) - Somehow I doubt that the DoT would award AA with two DFW-HND frequencies. Even though they already have an existing LAX-HND flight, that route probably has one of the highest demands between the U.S. and HND. Delta:...

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