Re: TAP post 1H 2019 loss; government pushes Neeleman to sell stake

Which are you saying here, TAP or T-A-P? Why is it so difficult to understand that TAP (or T.A.P. or T-A-P) is an acronym and not a word? :confused: Is it still officially an acronym? Yes, why wouldn't it be? The legal name of the company is Transportes Aéreos Portugueses, S.A. and TAP it's acronym.

Re: TAP post 1H 2019 loss; government pushes Neeleman to sell stake

Nicknuzzii wrote:

LXwing wrote:

Nicknuzzii wrote:

Tap Air Portugal

No, it is TAP Air Portugal (from Transportes Aéreos Portugueses)

Which are you saying here, TAP or T-A-P?

Re: TAP post 1H 2019 loss; government pushes Neeleman to sell stake

Nicknuzzii wrote:

questions wrote:

Side note, but related.

SAS is S.A.S., not Sas

EVA is E.V.A., not Eva

Is TAP T.A.P., not Tap? Or are people referring to the airline as Air Portugal?

Thanks.

Tap Air Portugal

Re: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America

If I remember correctly TP dropped VCP way before AD started flying the route. If I remember correctly, both were serving this route at some point. This route was handed over to Azul once TAP sent back the two A332 that they borrowed from them for TP's US operations. You are both wrong. TAP dropped...

Re: TAP schedules first non stop A321LR service between Europa and South America

Yes, definitely.
I've heard rumors that João Pessoa (JPA) and Maceió (MCZ) are in the pipeline.
And I would guess that São Luís (SLZ) would be likely too.

Re: TAP A330-900neo crew and passengers reporting dizziness and vomiting

Airlines Report Nausea-Inducing Cabin Fumes on Airbus’ A330neo https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/06/29/a330neos-experiencing-fume-leakage-into-the-cabin/ This report is essentially false. :shakehead: There have been no reported fume events, and there were no diversions or cancellations as far as it is ...

Re: TAP A330-900neo crew and passengers reporting dizziness and vomiting

Airlines Report Nausea-Inducing Cabin Fumes on Airbus’ A330neo https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/06/29/a330neos-experiencing-fume-leakage-into-the-cabin/ This report is essentially false. :shakehead: There have been no reported fume events, and there were no diversions or cancellations as far as it is ...

Re: TAP Portugal has fewer passengers in Q1 2019 in a booming Portuguese market

The OP's basic logic is essentially flawed. Today TAP has released new pax numbers showing that they have flown 4.9M pax up to date, which is 100K or 2% more than the same period of last year. At a point where they have only started 3 of the planned new routes: DUD, BSL and TLV. Most will start only...

Re: HNA increases stake in TAP

TAP has already seen investment from HNA and BOC for its fleet renewal. HNA is using TP and other airlines to offload ordered aircraft, A320NEO'S with favorable lease deals as HNA cannot take and operate these aircraft profitably. CS-TVA/TVB were originally HNA orders. That is utter rubbish, unless...

Re: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations

TAP Air Portugal will feature a cabin with 16 J full-flat seats in a staggered configuration (similar to Aer Lingus) and only 152 Y recliner seats, which is among the lowest seat counts foreseen for the LR. It sounds quite reasonable given that TAP will be using these LR mostly on TATL routes. https...

Re: TAP receives first A330Neo

NZ321 wrote:

Do we have a seat map? I can't find one anywhere.... weird.

Re: TAP receives first A330Neo

NZ321 wrote:

Do we have a seat map? I can't find one anywhere.... weird.

Re: TAP receives first A330Neo

mjoelnir wrote:

RalXWB wrote:

They have a fleet of 84. I would not call that small...

TAP 91 frames and TAP express 21 frames. Together 112 frames.

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

rbrunner wrote:

Will she fly to her new home LIS today?

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

The routes have been taken down from TAP's booking system. What a surprise! No. ;) TAP also announced that from January they are going all A320 series on the "Ponte Aerea". So I wonder what will happen to the ATR's. New frequencies/routes? Hopefully new routes. An ATR cannot fly very far ...

Re: Does Ryanair avoid "tricky" airports?

FR does have one 737-700. But they fly to plenty of small, secondary airports. Their decisions not to fly to the places you mentioned likely have everything to do with demand and nothing to do with aircraft restrictions or landing challenges. I don't know about the other places, but with regard to ...

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

On the other hand, and trying to get back to the topic of this thread, not surprisingly TAP was after the corporate pax, thus it chose to fly to the most developed areas of the North in terms of industry and business (VGO, LCG and OVD).Why would they fly to SCQ when they are not exactly aiming to a...

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

About the canceled routes in Spain, the CEO of TAP has been quoted: Sobre a suspensão recente de rotas em Espanha, Antonoaldo Neves diz que a TAP preferiu “dar um passo para trás para dar dois a frente”. “Em vez de estar a operar numa situação difícil (…), preferimos suspender os voos e dar tempo ao...

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

Then new routes/operators will come in, or routes simply will be abandoned because deemed unprofitable. There are many airports in Northern Spain which make little or no commercial sense, but they were built when having a 3 km-runway and flying loss-making state-owned planes was still cheaper and e...

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

The 3 mentioned routes (LCG, VGO and OVD) have been suspended for the W18 season, not cancelled . It is said that they might return for the S19. They have been chosen among all ATR operated routes due to being the least profitable, not necessarily for being unprofitable. The reasons for such a short...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

Population and yield is quite irrelevant. Also no need to discuss that FAO does not only serve Faro but the whole South of Portugal. Of course, airlines generate profits from thin air... Also, the whole south of Portugal is Faro and a handfull of even smaller cities. :? Regarding "very low yie...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

TP is no different, they only fly to LIS. I don't understand why people keep insisting that TP should fly from Faro when virtually no other European airline flies from their country's 10th or so largest city. If we were asking why TP doesn't fly from Coimbra, that might make more sense :) I don't t...

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

I read somewhere that the A338 prototype was waiting to get the engines coming from the TAP frame currently being used for test flights, as this will get new engines before delivery. If so, it could be another 1/2 months before engines are installed on the A338.

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

For LIS-MAD line... I would not waste 2 cents on thinking about it. Let's say you build a HS rail from LIS to the Spanish border. What for? Then what...? Given how updated, modern, comfortable and reliable (pun intended) the train is from Badajoz-Extremadura to Madrid-Chamartin. They have most of t...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

IAH - LIS would be a good destination, plenty of connections south of IAH. You're not alone apparently. "Other destinations the airline is considering include Los Angeles (LAX) and Houston (IAH)" https://thepointsguy.com/news/david-neeleman-tap-portugal/ "David: Yeah, you’ll see some...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

TAPs A321LR will have 2-2 full flat business seats, probably 16 of them. Do you know if they will have seatback IFE in Coach on the A321LRs? I imagine the ones for short-medium haul won't, but hope the LRs will - will likely be taking that route a lot, in the cheap seats... They will surely have IF...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

OPO-EWR is to be 6xw on A321LR, A330 would be overkill.

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

TAPs A321LR will have 2-2 full flat business seats, probably 16 of them.

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

And I agree that the NEO will make its way into Africa. It will allow TP to expand and solidify its position in Africa and it's one reason why i think they should optimize their evening bank at LIS for more connections to Africa, especially from N.America. If I'm not mistaken with the addition of C...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

There is something that puzzles me about the OPO hub. If they are trying to set a 2nd hub in OPO adding more and more European flights, where are they going to connect to? Currently the only long-haul destinations from OPO are EWR, GIG and GRU. The Brazilian destinations are in quite a low frequenc...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

TP has just confirmed the schedule for DUB, BSL and TLV this morning. 2x Daily DUB A319/A320 2x Daily BSL A319/A320 1x Daily TLV A321LR http://www.presstur.com/empresas---negocios/aviacao/tap-anuncia-novas-rotas-de-lisboa-para-telavive-dublin-e-basileia/ Yep, these are just the first from the upcom...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

Sure, the regular NEO is good for that route. The problem is that TAP's regular NEOs are configured at CY216 seats with the usual eurobusiness section (blocked middle seat), which is not acceptable for TATL since TAP is not a low cost operator. Their upcoming LRs will have only about 175 seats and ...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

Sure, the regular NEO is good for that route. The problem is that TAP's regular NEOs are configured at CY216 seats with the usual eurobusiness section (blocked middle seat), which is not acceptable for TATL since TAP is not a low cost operator. Their upcoming LRs will have only about 175 seats and a...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

Surprised they haven't announced OPO to BOS. I thought it would be a sure thing with the A321NEOs. It's still too early for that, TAP only starts to receive the first LR from December/January, and only a few of them (4?) until the end of 2019. The first priorities for the LR besides the already ann...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

What do you suggest that TAP should due to contribute? :stirthepot: Maybe propose to split their operations between LIS and Montijo like BA with LHR and LGW? That would be suicide for a smallish airline like them. Or happily accept more airport surcharges in LIS to pay for a new airport they don't ...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

What's the story with TER? On Terceira in the Azores, I see, but what of it being owned by the Portuguese Air Force?? TER is an military airport belonging to the Portuguese state which is used by the Portuguese Air Force and also the US Air Force, besides hosting civil operations as well (TAP, Azor...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

But it's not like it's not TAP's problem. It IS also their problem, and it's affecting them, so they should take a more constructive approach and compromise on something. If they want/need more slots at LIS, then they should "contribute" to a solution. All I see from their side is demands...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

I don't know if I'm lost in translation, but IMHO the Jornal de Negocios interview's last paragraph summarises a very selfish, arrogant and childish approach to Montijo's new airport They have a valid point. Montijo is to be a Low Cost airport. TAP are not a Low Cost airline. As the only airline wi...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

AmricanShamrok posted this link in the Chicago Aviation News thread (post 964): https://jornaleconomico.sapo.pt/noticias/tap-vai-ter-mais-15-avioes-e-novas-rotas-no-proximo-ano-352378 which says: "Telavive, Basileia, Dublin, Tenerife, Nápoles, Montreal, Chicago, Washington, São Francisco, Cona...

Re: TAP to add 15 new routes, 3 from OPO

- 3 new routes from OPO: BRU, MUC, and LYS (posted in a different article), and 11 new routes from LIS. - OPO-EWR to go daily for next Summer (apparently they counted this as one of the 15). Small corrections: OPO-EWR will go 6xw not daily, and it is not being counted as one of the 15 new routes. O...

Re: ET To Start ADD-LIS-MAD

Backtracking does not make sense on a number of levels and risks alienating a built up valuable MAD client base that has so far been upgraded from one stop via FCO to nonstop. If my 30 seconds worth of research can be quoted, Spain has 4x the population, a GDP that is 5x greater and annual exports ...

Re: ET To Start ADD-LIS

According to a Portuguese website ET will start ADD-MAD-LIS. 4x Weekly using a B788, starting on the 28th October 2019 So it seems BCN didn’t work as a tag, let’s hope LIS does. Should have plenty of connecting traffic to LAD/JNB/MPT https://newsavia.com/ethiopian-comeca-em-outubro-rota-para-lisboa...

Re: Ethiopian cancels Barcelona after less than two months of operations

Would LIS be added to MAD? IMO Lisbon would make quite a lot of sense, given the VFR and business links between Portugal links and Angola, Mozambique and South Africa. Also eventually ET could sell 5th freedom MAD-LIS flights. You've hit the nail on the head there. ET will start flying to MAD via L...

Re: Undisclosed Order for 10 A330NEOs and 10 A350s

The A330NEO order is surely not for TAP. Between directly ordered and leased planes, they will get 21 A339s in the next few years while keeping 7 A332 in the fleet. There's no place for additional WB planes in their fleet until the LIS capacity constraint is solved.

Re: European expansion in SFO

LIS with TP is guaranteed, as soon as TP starts operating the A330neo. If not still during W18 it will surely start for S19 probably as a 3-4 weakly service.

Re: Airbus A330neo Production/Delivery Thread 2018

The first A330neo for launch operator TAP Air Portugal - MSN1819 - completed its 4:32 hours maiden flight today. :bigthumbsup: And what a beauty she is! :D Looking forward to the EIS hopefully during the summer. http://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2018/05/launch-operator-a330neo-complet...

Re: TAP's first and only 320neo is not flying

The start of operations of CS-TVA is now essentially dependent on certification by ANAC, which could take several weeks as this is the first A320 to be certified in Portugal. That I find odd. The A320neo was certified by both FAA and EASA. Is ANAC anything better / more competent to certify aircraf...

Re: TAP's first and only 320neo is not flying

Configuration will apparently be 60C/Y+ (red seats) and 114Y(green seats), same as on current refurbished A320 cabins. Red seats have recline, extra legroom and power sockets, while green seats are pre-reclined. The start of operations of CS-TVA is now essentially dependent on certification by ANAC,...

Re: Airbus Cuts Production Plans for A330 Jet

TAP bought multiple A330ceos from Singapore. Having a good used market and having low costs to transition planes between airlines is beneficial for the A330 since it keeps the market healthy. Unfortunately for Airbus, the number of used airplanes on the market is sufficient that airlines are able p...

Re: Confirmed: HiFly adding second hand A380s

The first two Hi Fly Captains for the A380 have already completed their training in Toulouse. https://newsavia.com/hi-fly-ja-tem-comandantes-habilitados-a-voar-os-airbus-a380/ (only in portuguese) Interestingly, one of them is Captain Carlos Mirpuri, who is also Vice President, co-founder and shareh...