United schedule update: CLE-TPA extended from 03/16 to 05/06 1x B739 CLE-LAS extended from 03/16 to 05/06 1x B739 CLE-PHX extended from 03/16 to 05/06 1x B739 CLE-MCO 2x daily extended to 05/06 2x B738 CLE-FLL 2x daily extended to 05/06 1x B739, 1x B738 CLE-RSW 2x daily extended to 05/06 2x B738 Ot...
Jump to postThe runways were a good idea. The old airfield configuration was atrocious. 6C/24C was ridiculous and there was that intersecting runway. The real tragedy is Concourse D. I get that 50 seaters were the new hot thing but to build an entire facility that can only handle props and 50 seat jets max? Te...
Jump to postThe runways were a good idea. The old airfield configuration was atrocious. 6C/24C was ridiculous and there was that intersecting runway. The real tragedy is Concourse D. I get that 50 seaters were the new hot thing but to build an entire facility that can only handle props and 50 seat jets max? Ter...
Jump to postFantastic and sorely needed. They obviously aren't concerned about it cannibalizing their CMH route but I wonder if this will impact their PIT route. There's a lot of folks in the NE Ohio are that will use PIT as it's a relatively short drive. Will definitely make getting to the West Coast and Hawa...
Jump to postI don't recall someone posting this yet, I finally had chance to use ground transportation center and I have to give a shout out to what an improvement it is, it's actually a tiny sliver of the airport that looks 2021 modern! Not 100% done yet, still some construction clean up, and I suppose some m...
Jump to posthttps://www.cleveland.com/cityhall/2020/09/i-x-center-closure-could-cost-cleveland-hopkins-international-airport-more-than-2m-a-year.html Here's some (possibly fake news since it is Cleveland.com) reporting on the costs to the airport to close. Either way, I am 99.99% sure that nobody in Cuyahoga Co...
Jump to postBreaking news on the I-X Center closing permanently. Good timing with the master plan in progress? Hmm...
Jump to postVery happy about CLE-MKE. I've flown it probably a dozen times and selfishly hope it sticks around for good since MKE is much more convenient for my travels than MDW.
Jump to posthttps://twitter.com/DeItaOne/status/1260913674346205184
Delta retiring 777 fleet by end of 2020.
I think Kennedy gets "it" and I hope he can stick around for the master plan and beyond. Hopefully no more rumors of him packing up his office.
Jump to postFrontier ought to feel threatened. Lets just hope they respond! (new routes for summer 2020 please!) ^ If we don't here from Frontier within the next week it'd probably be safe to assume CLE will be getting no love from them for their summer schedule. Frontier should feel threatened. They've never ...
Jump to postI work in the business world and I think the very prevalent idea (among both leaders in the business world as well as investors who constantly preach about it) that companies only exist to enrich shareholders is a very dangerous cancer. It's newer idea that has unfortunately spread very rapidly wher...
Jump to postAlso interesting is how the passenger numbers are now similar to some hub years. CO/UA were not connecting a lot of people through CLE with all the ERJs we had. Also very glad about the LAX addition - I actually just got back from LAX a few days ago and took connections both directions because of th...
Jump to postNo one on this forum said they want United to bring back routes to Cleveland that wouldn’t be profitable — they’re talking about markets that could be profitable for United, and certainly were in the past. Here’s some examples: United Airlines loads summer 2013 CLE-SEA 2013-06: 93% 2013-07: 91% 201...
Jump to postavtcle wrote:
In regard to SWAs CLE-MKE route... Airlines don’t fly routes for fun. If it wasn’t making money it wouldn’t still be flying at 2x daily as it has for the past 2 years.
Point being: UA is treating their CLE FF base better than AA is treating their FFs out of PIT. Then again, I suppose they do have access to the weekly BA flights. I also think the line "having only so much room to grow" mainly applies to specific city pairs out of CLE. I don't think its a...
Jump to postSo many hypotheticals in this thread. People ripping on Southwest's supposedly poor culture yet their employee productivity is quite high (look at revenue per employee versus, say, AA). People saying their profitability track record is a fluke despite it being almost 50 years at this point while mos...
Jump to postNot at all trying to insult SWA here. That said, if you’re going to cast shade on somebody, make sure you’re in the right. They said OPERATING INCOME, not REVENUE. Had they said revenue I’d agree with the statement, but there is zero chance that each jet would have provided 12 million in operating ...
Jump to postI don't think we need to panic about S-W. If I were a betting man I'd bet on a mid-rise off public square.
Jump to postWell, they did report $5.6B in revenues for this quarter with just those other 717 planes. Not sure why $15.6B in an entire year is funny. Math is hard and trying to hate on Southwest is easy! Not at all trying to insult SWA here. That said, if you’re going to cast shade on somebody, make sure you’...
Jump to postIf 34 grounded MAX are good for $435 million in income over seven months of grounding, that would imply (ignoring gauge) that the other 717 active aircraft in the WN fleet should be making $15.7 Billion a year. Hah hah! Well, they did report $5.6B in revenues for this quarter with just those other ...
Jump to postN757ST wrote:It seems most airlines are not so rosy looking toward the 4th quarter with flat RASM trends. The 4+ percent increase in casm in the 4th quarter night hammer the stock today, though it looks like some of that is max delays.
I am of the opinion that any lake front redevelopment project that doesnt include relocating 90 to south of it's current location and removed dead mans curve would be a waste of time. I'm afraid BKL would close and we would be left with some half baked garbage park that nobody goes to instead of a ...
Jump to postI am of the opinion that any lake front redevelopment project that doesnt include relocating 90 to south of it's current location and removed dead mans curve would be a waste of time. I'm afraid BKL would close and we would be left with some half baked garbage park that nobody goes to instead of a v...
Jump to postYes, 6L/24R is open. They were initially planning to open 6L/24R and subsequently close the other parallel. That plan is on hold until Spring 2020 most likely. That being said, 6R/24L is still closing on an almost daily basis for a few hours to catch up on maintenance that was put off when the othe...
Jump to post^WN needs more space. DL needs more space. Other than a full re-do of Concourse D, would it make sense for either WN or DL to move to BKL? Either airline would have almost the entire terminal, with the exception of Utlimate Air. When WN first came to Cleveland, they were initially planning to go to...
Jump to posthttps://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/07/no-to-cuyahoga-county-bed-tax-increase-for-now-yes-to-a-less-piecemeal-approach-to-local-taxation-editorial.html Nice to see the PD planting a seed regarding airport modernization. They seem to be the only ones. Best I can tell a master facility plan vendor...
Jump to posthttps://www.cleveland.com/opinion/2019/07/no-to-cuyahoga-county-bed-tax-increase-for-now-yes-to-a-less-piecemeal-approach-to-local-taxation-editorial.html Nice to see the PD planting a seed regarding airport modernization. They seem to be the only ones. Best I can tell a master facility plan vendor...
Jump to post^what are gate lice? Or is that a typo? I guess the term is mostly used among the DL flyers over at FT. People who crowd right in front of the entrance to the line before their group is boarding so that they can rush the gate as soon as their group is up. It's a feedback cycle, I'll admit to "...
Jump to postI started flying UA occasionally, and got a chance to board at C23 (one of the "innovation gates"). My verdict is not a huge change. Much longer line to the gate, which I supposed helps with gate lice, and the furniture and extra power outlets are an improvement. I do think its a little cl...
Jump to postQuite a few corporate connections between the two cities, especially Eaton, Rockwell Automation, and Johnson Controls. Probably one of the main reasons WN instantly picked up the route after UA dropped it. One of my friends works for Rockwell and she said that employees are ferried between the two ...
Jump to postI'm pretty sure WN cut one of the MDW flights around the time they started MKE. They are at full capacity at MDW, so my theory has always been that the CLE-MKE flights are reliever flights to that region. Seems to be popular enough and it's a route I've flown quite a few times now, I would be sad if...
Jump to postAs much as everyone elsewhere on this site likes to talk about how Cleveland deserved to be de-hubbed and how awful of a place it is, I wonder if the new United regime is starting to see a little value in taking advantage of the focus city operations. Cleveland has proven it can grow when fares are ...
Jump to postSome info on the Ford plants: For "producing game-changing automotive technologies...At least one of the game changing technologies is the plasma ignition system, also known as the sparkless ignition, according to a party involved with sales transaction." What's the airport impact? More f...
Jump to postthe max grounding is gonna screw over a bunch of investors, me thinks. Probably not, it's already pretty priced in (which is why Southwest has lagged the other airlines slightly lately). Even Boeing's stock hasn't been beaten down too badly. As long as they come back into service, the market will l...
Jump to postThe upcoming master plan is probably our one shot for the next decade+ to actually get some real major changes. I'm not so sure they will swing for the fences with it though. I can't even imagine the push back any major (expensive) project will have from various groups.
Jump to postSome things we know: 1) A good piece of BKL is able to be built on. See the existing terminal, corporate hangar, high school and past proposals (museum, outlet mall) that tell you there is land available. The rest could be a park (see #2). 2) As ncflyer states, give it to the Metro parks. They do t...
Jump to postJust like STL you all got hosed by WW. Watch this and note the part of the 5-Sept email WW send to the airport. Then they totally change their mind in the PR release and make the airport/city look like it was them. https://www.kmov.com/news/wow-air-pulling-out-of-st-louis-saying-summer-performance/...
Jump to postWe have been discussing the fleet changeover and MD retirement in this thread. No need for another thread. https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1371085 November 26 is the last day of scheduled MD-80 service. Nov 27 is a retirement ceramony in SFB. Nov 28 will see a special LAS-FA...
Jump to postI don't really like coming on this website anymore, at least partially because every week there is a "the 737 is old so it automatically must suck" thread. It's a good plane, get over it.
Jump to postBut what happens if the airplane attempts its takeoff on a conveyor belt? Not sure if you are asking about all aircraft, or the 730-10. Aircraft make lift based off air flow over the wings. Conveyor belt going opposite direction, plane won't fly since there would be no forward speed. Conveyor belt ...
Jump to postI believe, although I'm not certain, that it has to do with replacing the empty tank space (the air in the tank) with nitrogen (which is an inert gas) instead of normal air which has reactive oxygen.
Jump to postI do not like the a.net obsession with CASM. But in this case, I will say: 76 seaters offer so much better CASM because they offer so many more seats for marginal extra fuel burn. So for the vast majority of regional routes, a 76 seater is the way to go. For 50 seaters to make a big comeback, someon...
Jump to postSW doesn't really have LLC pitch at this point - their seat pitch is right in line with (or even better than, if we are comparing to AA A319) any of the majors. Also it's two free bags.
Jump to postWhat is the cause of American's large debt? Did it order too many planes? Should American have ordered fewer planes to replace the Super 80's and 757's or should it have ordered different planes? Should it have extended the life of the Super 80's and 757's? They did order a lot of planes, but it wa...
Jump to postAs a 737 pilot for FI, I see quite a lot of CLE flights on my schedule. One thing that we find strange is the handling of arriving international flights: Once we clear customs, we have to re-clear security and enter the airport again and walk through the terminal to baggage claim. I understand that...
Jump to postI like hearing the two extremes on this issue. I'll take the middle ground. To NCflyers point, I think the airport is in better shape than he gives it credit for. Sure, it's not as airy and doesn't have as much natural light as contemporary airports, but it does its job. It's not a world class hub a...
Jump to postAs in, the school nobody likes? ;) As in, the school that is better at football than yours (Alabama and Clemson exempted). As in the school nobody actually ever went to but cheers for anyway because they win sometimes. I mean, I'll admit that I root for them and never went there, but they are one o...
Jump to postThe SwiftAir CLE-PUJ charter is still operating as a 762 or 763 - today's 762 is due at 1629. I was on a flight last weekend which took off right behind the 767. It was pretty weird seeing a passenger 767 at the airport, even weirder to be in a 737 right behind it. Really wish we got more widebodie...
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