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by LawAndOrder
Sun Aug 12, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

Ya'll are acting like ANY airline is "bleading edge" with colors. Anybody who's taken Marketing 101: Purple = people equate with royalty, opulence Blue = Most commonly chosen as "popular color", calming Grey = Neutral, least likely to offend VS, DL, UA--none of them did anything...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

Not an employee. Just a person with common sense. It’s still just a color. Brands change palettes all the time. Every time they hire a new creative team or just when they need a refresh. Purple is purple. Enough said. Marketing teams love being written about. Puff piece of not. Common sense huh. Co...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

Not an employee. Just a person with common sense. It’s still just a color. Brands change palettes all the time. Every time they hire a new creative team or just when they need a refresh. Purple is purple. Enough said. Marketing teams love being written about. Puff piece of not. Common sense huh. Co...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Aug 11, 2018 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

I never said it was haphazard. You started by claiming UA stole DL’s super innovative purple and I don’t think there is any evidence of that. It’s a freaking color. I don’t get why people feel the need to make up these narratives. I didn’t say they stole anything let’s start there. But there isn’t ...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

Yes, Brand/Identity teams sometimes change up their color palettes. Particularly their secondary/accent colors. Did you think they stay static for multiple decades? Nothing happens haphazardly like that. And no company the size of United would add colors without considering its competitors. I’m cer...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

No, I don’t think there is anything to admit other than the fact that these are colors. The three majors all have blue in their schemes. Two of them have red. Southwest has that purple color. And Marketing people like to mix up their color palettes. There is nothing special about DL and UA using pu...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Aug 10, 2018 8:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

This whole line of discussion is senseless. No one is copying brand/identity. It’s a color. Because you do not agree is senseless? Did you come up with the new colors? Take a stroll over to Delta.com you will see the Delta's dark blue 1) Delta Dark blue (website lead color)= Rhapsody blue, 2) Delta...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Aug 10, 2018 2:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

There is always someone who hates whatever is suggested. As for the purple and UA ripping off DL...well maybe DL ripped off VS, see their palate in their cabin. Or maybe Delta owns 49 percent of VS and are aligning their brands. They have joint branding at key airports. It would make sense that the...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United updating brand with new colors
Replies: 122
Views: 22356

Re: United updating brand with new colors

Atlantic Amethyst is an ugly color... The rest of the palette is bland. There is always someone who hates whatever is suggested. As for the purple and UA ripping off DL...well maybe DL ripped off VS, see their palate in their cabin. Or maybe Delta owns 49 percent of VS and are aligning their brands...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gay couple allegedly bumped for straight couple...
Replies: 344
Views: 26552

Re: Gay couple ALLEGEDLY bumped for straight couple...

I find it hard to believe AS would bump a person only because they were gay. Minorities in the US always play the victim card and use their status as “the reason”. Unfortunate but going from “premium” to the main cabin is something people should just get over and not feel the need to take to extrem...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 Media Day
Replies: 83
Views: 12870

Re: Delta A350 Media Day

I've flown over a hundred flights in business class on a variety of airlines. On exactly ZERO of those flights, have I found my limbs hanging out into the aisle. And remember, its a door. It opens, it closes. If you don't want to close it, than leave it open. Its a pretty simple theory actually. So...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Alaska named 'Great Place to Work' for a 2nd Straight Year
Replies: 18
Views: 1891

Re: Delta and Alaska named 'Great Place to Work' for a 2nd Straight Year

I think you could do a quick survey yourself and see that morale is generally a lot higher at DL and AS compared to UA and AA. But furthermore AS and DL always seem to be on the top of list from DOT complaints to the JD power awards so do you think AS and DL are paying to be featured on all of these...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Alaska named 'Great Place to Work' for a 2nd Straight Year
Replies: 18
Views: 1891

Re: Delta and Alaska named 'Great Place to Work' for a 2nd Straight Year

Why do you all sound so bitter against DL? All awards come with a bit of politics. No one had a problem when AA was named ATW "Airline of the year" even gave their employees positive space passes. Hell I don't even think the employees of AA saw that coming. DL scores high because they take...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier
Replies: 1424
Views: 96860

Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

I don't think the Canadian government invested billions to bail out Bombardier to see the jets manufactured in the US See, that's the thing; Investissement Québec gets 50 million class B shares exercisable at C$ 2.21 (Closing price of BBD on TSX on Jun 30 C$2.36). If C-Series is successful, they ge...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Aug 11, 2017 2:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL will fund LGA terminal project without Goldman
Replies: 129
Views: 16384

Re: DL will fund LGA terminal project without Goldman

You keep stating those lies as if they are fact. The concourses/piers will be completely new. You can tell that from the interior renderings delta released. The new tiers will be connected in a more efficient manner. It not just a head house. They thought the bridges were superficial and their layo...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Aug 10, 2017 4:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL will fund LGA terminal project without Goldman
Replies: 129
Views: 16384

Re: DL will fund LGA terminal project without Goldman

So a bridge over a taxi-way automatically means it will be a better terminal? Delta has the ability to design the airport with every detail personalized to what they want their customer experience to be. I highly doubt anyone except for us airliner enthusiast will say those bridges will set apart t...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 interiors
Replies: 79
Views: 17082

Re: Delta A350 interiors

I don't like that blue in economy never have, but it's the same cabin spec that they have on every plane they have in their fleet. Have you all not seen any of their aircraft Y class is the exact same color it's been for a while. I'd imagine Delta would be updating its spec soon with the changing of...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A350 emerges from the factory
Replies: 236
Views: 69697

Re: First Delta A350 emerges from the factory

I think it's on par with every other new build airplane into any airline in the US. The blue is the same blue delivered on every new 739, 321 and all the redone birds. It just looks different because the seat is different. I think it's the first time Delta used that Y seat. I think u can add some de...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A350 emerges from the factory
Replies: 236
Views: 69697

Re: First Delta A350 emerges from the factory

[quote="MSPNWA"]Why not arrive in the daytime? So much for showing it off to the world. Very surprised by how bland Y looks. Where's the red? PS almost looks like regular Y with its relatively narrow width. D1 offers better colors than previous D1 seats, but that's a low bar to hurdle. It'...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Aug 01, 2017 12:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A321 expansion
Replies: 59
Views: 13473

Re: DL A321 expansion

For all those anticipating the new 321s proliferation into more markets than the crew familiarization traditional ATL-FL​ runs, with this months new sked, you will notice ATLLAX, ATLDCA,ATLSAT, ATLSAN, ATLSNA on certain days. Rhumour has it next up are MSY BOS DEN SJC SMF but I can't cfm those as y...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL will fund LGA terminal project without Goldman
Replies: 129
Views: 16384

Re: DL will fund LGA terminal project without Goldman

Going just by the renderings in the press release, it seems like the concourses themselves will be left at least partially intact. It looks like, if anything, what's being "built" new and consolidated is the headhouse combining check-in and ticketing for the entirety of Delta's terminal. ...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta posts Q2 2017 profit $1.85 Billion USD
Replies: 66
Views: 11354

Re: Delta posts Q2 2017 profit $1.85 Billion USD

Its an info graph people relax............the point is all of the airlines report in a way to make them appear in the best light. There is a reason there isn't a standard form of how the press releases are written. Delta is doing fine, was the largest pre-profit but salaries and expenses increased a...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA FAs to get TUMI rollaboards
Replies: 54
Views: 9958

Re: UA FAs to get TUMI rollaboards

With the announcement of FAs getting new uniforms by Brooks Brothers & Tracy Reese we FAs will also be getting new rollaboards. Should be delivered end of the fall. Can't wait to see them. Interesting Delta tested both types of Tumi bags for their new uniform. I thought it would be perfect and ...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA FAs to get TUMI rollaboards
Replies: 54
Views: 9958

Re: UA FAs to get TUMI rollaboards

still delivers a sub-par product relative to its peers and is nowhere near as reliable operationally as DL and AA. You might want to check operational numbers again. MTD for June United is leading DL and AA in on time percentage and it just a hair behind DL in completion. Not to take anything away ...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 09, 2017 1:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA employees to get new uniforms.
Replies: 36
Views: 6165

Re: UA employees to get new uniforms.

This is very ironic (Zac Posen is the creative director for brooks brothers women). Brooks brothers was one of the two finalist for delta uniforms (one would think a clear choice with ZP as the designer), and nine months later United is partnering with them. With all that being said I am excited to ...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 05, 2017 3:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23031

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight for overbooking

The real issue here is that the airlines are being over scrutinized and they are scared to get even a blemish on their name (especially delta and it's intended path to customer service champions). I wish I coulda arrange two things for delta a really good PR team and real good lawyers.... 1) PR team...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 05, 2017 3:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23031

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight for overbooking

Former Delta Connection (Comair @ CVG) Customer Service Agent (ticketing & gate) here. My wife & I had seen a couple of TV news reports about this incident, then we heard a report about it during a newscast on the big flamethrower AM radio station in Cincinnati while in our car. She says, &...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 05, 2017 3:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23031

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight for overbooking

After paying for the seat, he then no-showed.. Nope...not what happened. On ABC News Tonite - He checked in for the flight Explained his son had taken an earlier flight..could he use his son's seat for the baby. Check-in Agent said yes and issued them boarding passes and boarded them. - Done deal a...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 05, 2017 3:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight
Replies: 204
Views: 23031

Re: Delta employees threaten and harass family; kicked off flight for overbooking

Who said the ticket wasn't transferable ? This is about basic customer service which has gone out the window and I don't understand why people applaud this kind of behavior towards people by corporations. :checkmark: You are totally right, so right. But hey, this is Corporational, Institutional, pu...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta introduces new Alessi products
Replies: 27
Views: 5673

Re: Delta introduces new Alessi products

Clearly I'm not in the target market they were aiming for with these service items. Quite frankly I think they are bland beyond belief if not downright dreadful. I much prefer what United have done with the service items in Polaris. If by bland you mean monochromatic, I guess I can understand. As a...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Mar 17, 2017 5:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta introduces new Alessi products
Replies: 27
Views: 5673

Re: Delta introduces new Alessi products

The only thing plain about the plates are the white color. I guess they could have made it some other color. I believe they wanted to go more creative than just putting some "widget design" ala Polaris globe. Instead of the globe I think the details are in the tray and serving pieces. I wo...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 16, 2017 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta introduces new Alessi products
Replies: 27
Views: 5673

Re: Delta introduces new Alessi products

Regardless of how you feel a certain brand has lost its glamour, it doesn't take away from the styling of pieces. They have always made quality pieces. It's a great partnership. Delta is trying to create a unique onboard experience. No one showed up in the forums about AAs new partnership with cole...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta introduces new Alessi products
Replies: 27
Views: 5673

Re: Delta introduces new Alessi products

On April 1, Delta will introduce it's stylish premium line of Alessi tableware, barware, serving pieces, and linen in Delta One and First cabins. The collection will extend to the Premium Select product when introduced later in 2017. Alessi was "stylish" in the 80's... Regardless of how y...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Mar 11, 2017 2:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways unveils new Q Suite business class seat
Replies: 95
Views: 25805

Re: Qatar Airways unveils new Q Suite business class seat

The new QR seat has been in development for around 3 years with the major design milestones completed early 2016, no copying of the DL seat involved. Lets be very clear although I wouldn't say copy. I would say that QR had a head start (the concept was already designed), as I am pretty sure Delta p...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Airways unveils new Q Suite business class seat
Replies: 95
Views: 25805

Re: Qatar Airways unveils new Q Suite business class seat

well folks, looks like Qatar copied Delta's idea for a business class suite. So, for those that were critical of DL's business class suite with a full sized door, what is your thoughts on Qatar's new business suite seat? The new QR seat has been in development for around 3 years with the major desi...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 02, 2017 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to Withdraw M88 from LGA Due to Noise
Replies: 54
Views: 9887

Re: DL to Withdraw M88 from LGA Due to Noise

"...commitment to updating its fleet" by retiring planes a) that they were going to retire anyway, and b) are 30 years old and should have been retired a long time ago anyway. Older doesn't mean worse! The M90 has been in the past few years less reliable, and Delta is printing money with ...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A320 IFE question
Replies: 22
Views: 3854

Re: DL A320 IFE question

only aircraft with old IFE is 73H, 767 domestic (the couple that are left) and 75H

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A320 IFE question
Replies: 22
Views: 3854

Re: DL IFE question

I flew N365NW A320-212 from SLC to CVG on 01-19-2017. The interior was quite nice and I believe it was likely one of the A320 aircraft that Delta has recently updated. As far as the seatback IFE system it appeared to be an older type with a non-movable screen, no USB or audio jack available on or n...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A320 IFE question
Replies: 22
Views: 3854

Re: DL IFE question

I believe that the A320 refurb did not initially include IFE, although the A319 did. If I recall correctly, that decision was reversed and it was decided that the A320 would indeed also be fitted with IFE. First the cabins would be done, then AVOD would be installed as phase 2. That would leave onl...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL A320 IFE question
Replies: 22
Views: 3854

Re: DL IFE question

I flew N365NW A320-212 from SLC to CVG on 01-19-2017. The interior was quite nice and I believe it was likely one of the A320 aircraft that Delta has recently updated. As far as the seatback IFE system it appeared to be an older type with a non-movable screen, no USB or audio jack available on or n...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jan 19, 2017 2:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: ATW Airline of the Year: AA
Replies: 53
Views: 5719

Re: ATW Airline of the Year: AA

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/661/32395282055_ba7a42b638_h.jpg Why is this hysterical to me? Congrats I guess, funny that Southwest won last year or so doesn't seem like they bragged much about it. I remember reading it I actually have the publication. Funny that they offered two positive space ti...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jan 18, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL new uniform
Replies: 15
Views: 3379

Re: DL new uniform

I love the new uniforms. I have seen many wear testers. If you have facebook or IG just search Zac Posen (click on latest......you will have to scroll a bit). The cuts and construction (especially for the women) is amazing. I think the AA uniform is clean in lines yet is very lackluster. I literally...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL announces record 2016 profit $6.1 Billion USD
Replies: 74
Views: 12611

Re: DL announces record 2016 profit $6.1 Billion USD

Especially when the pilots got 30% AND their profit sharing didn't get touched. Folks are blind to this. It wasn't a true raise in that regard. People it was a 14.5 percent raise, you would be a fool to think that on top of that one would get the same amount of a profit sharing. !4.5 + 10 equals 24...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL announces record 2016 profit $6.1 Billion USD
Replies: 74
Views: 12611

Re: DL announces record 2016 profit $6.1 Billion USD

2016 profit was bigger than the 2015 profit yet non-pilot profit sharing goes from 21.6% to just 10%. Maybe now people will realize that the 14% increase to just their base pay wasn't a 14% raise. Congrats!!! Especially when the pilots got 30% AND their profit sharing didn't get touched. Folks are ...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Nov 21, 2016 8:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL livery modification coming?
Replies: 131
Views: 37068

Re: DL livery modification coming?

It is weird that this is happening near a holiday. Has this been confirmed or is it simple heresy? It just doesn't make sense unless it is announced tomorrow or saved until next week.

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Super Business Class is delayed until March
Replies: 19
Views: 6911

Re: Qatar Super Business Class is delayed until March

VX321 wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if the new SQ or DL seat was supposed to be QR's new seat! If that's the case, DL definitely got back QR in a way they never saw coming! :lol:


or perhaps the same but slightly different concept (double bed thing)..............

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Nov 21, 2016 2:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qatar Super Business Class is delayed until March
Replies: 19
Views: 6911

Re: Qatar Super Business Class is delayed until March

It would be a bit embarrassing to shout about your wonderful new product that is unique, only to have already launched on another airline and one that you feel is inferior to your airline as well. Maybe they need more features to differentiate their own new product with the competition and once aga...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Pay Increase
Replies: 160
Views: 12612

Re: Delta Pay Increase

We keep complaining about the raises. They are going to happen so no need to discuss that. It came almost directly from employees asking to have more in their base pay. So if we feel there is a need for better benefits than write that on the employee survey! Ask the pertinent questions in the town h...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Pay Increase
Replies: 160
Views: 12612

Re: Delta Pay Increase

Very happy for DL! A pay raise is never a bad thing. Like I've always said when the Union debate comes up; whether they choose to or not, that's their and only their business! With that said, I highly encourage them to sign those cards and get Union representation! Whatever management gives them is...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Nov 16, 2016 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Pay Increase
Replies: 160
Views: 12612

Re: Delta Pay Increase

At the end of the day Delta is a for profit business. Yes the things they do are going to make business sense as it should. But everything WE do there is someone complaining. A union is not the answer to everything, I have been in one in the airline industry and felt that I gained nothing from it w...

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