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by LawAndOrder
Tue Feb 13, 2024 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024
Replies: 1010
Views: 160281

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

Never thought I’d say it but AA’s new cabins look better. More texture, wood and aluminum-look elements and just visually more appealing and upscale. https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2022/A-Private-Premium-Experience-in-the-Sky-American-Airlines-Introduces-New-Flagship-Suite-Seats-FLT-09/defau...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024
Replies: 1010
Views: 160281

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

Looks like leather on the seat pan, cloth on the back rest. The seats look like they are all the same material (leather or leather-like). The only cloth pieces are the amenities sitting on the seats. Where are y’all seeing the pictures? The article did not have any pictures when I pulled it up. Now...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024
Replies: 1010
Views: 160281

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

The economy seats look like cloth...are we going back from the leather/pleather? Looks like leather on the seat pan, cloth on the back rest. The seats look like they are all the same material (leather or leather-like). The only cloth pieces are the amenities sitting on the seats. Where are y’all se...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Announces Opening of LGA Headhouse and New Concourse E
Replies: 56
Views: 10542

Re: Delta Announces Opening of LGA Headhouse and New Concourse E

Terminal B looks way better imo. The Delta terminal could have looked like Terminal B (with the two skybridges and the double-height ceilings). But Delta thought this was better (or cheaper). Lots of things that will not age well here --- the wood detailing, what looks like faux marble paneling, th...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu May 26, 2022 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening
Replies: 333
Views: 86210

Re: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse

I’m pretty sure 31B is just temporary until they build the west head house. Once it’s complete it will look a lot different.

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by LawAndOrder
Thu May 19, 2022 5:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: JetBlue Agrees to Buy Spirit Airlines for $3.8 Billion After Frontier Deal Dies
Replies: 2278
Views: 324392

Re: JetBlue Makes Hostile Takeover Offer for Spirit

Theoretically speaking, yes. IMO the affect of NK and F9 to the legacies of yesteryear is all relative. A rose by any other name smells as sweet. I think the main driver of the definition of a ULCC today is differentiated by the lack of what B6 brought to the legacies: seatback entertainment at eve...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening
Replies: 333
Views: 86210

Re: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse

Delta was always planning a skyclub. Once the moved to 2/3 they studied just keeping the two open with upgrades but it wouldnt have given them enough space. They utilized the same space. The TSA ceiling were never going to be that high. Its a trade off.

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening
Replies: 333
Views: 86210

Re: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse

LAX will only allow the building to be a certain height. What yall are missing us they traded height to have a new massive club. Had they not created a full headhouse length club they could have raised the tsa and bag claim roof. Check in area height is actually pretty decent. The area near the win...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening
Replies: 333
Views: 86210

Re: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse

LAX will only allow the building to be a certain height. What yall are missing us they traded height to have a new massive club. Had they not created a full headhouse length club they could have raised the tsa and bag claim roof. Check in area height is actually pretty decent. The area near the wind...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta LAX Terminal modernization opening
Replies: 333
Views: 86210

Re: Delta cuts ribbon to new LAX Headhouse

Ticketing area looks cramped. We'll have to see if it's any improvement over the current T2 setup. I'm also curious to see the gate areas. While nicely renovated, T2 is a way too small. When you're loading an A350 the gate areas are a mosh pit of people. I looked at their press page and I don't see...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022
Replies: 2098
Views: 508652

Re: Delta welcomes its 1st Airbus A321neo

Report today that Delta plans to configure a sub fleet of A321NEOs for transcon service featuring new Delta One seats and a Premium Select cabin as well: https://airlineweekly.com/2022/03/delta-plans-new-lie-flat-transcontinental-seats-in-premium-travel-push/ Configuration to be 16 D1, 12 DPS, 54 C...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 24, 2022 2:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2022
Replies: 2098
Views: 508652

Re: Delta welcomes its 1st Airbus A321neo

FromCDGtoSYD wrote:
God I hadn’t noticed before but those seats are slim.


They are actually a inch wider than 321 CEO first class seats. They are the same seats Alaska has just heavily modified apparently.

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Aug 25, 2021 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Delta 330 order
Replies: 136
Views: 36955

Re: Rumor: Delta 330 order

Would an A330-800 at ca. 200T be a viable replacement for the 767-300ER, for transatlantic routes, say? Its about the capacity of the 767-400, so a upgrade from the 763ER. While the lower MTOW helps with fees the A330-800 (light) still remains a extremely heavy airframe compared to the 767, we are ...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Delta 330 order
Replies: 136
Views: 36955

Re: Rumor: Delta 330 order

I will reiterate it again, DL already has all the capacity it needs on order to replace the B763 with its orders for A339s. It has enough to replace some. But it won’t replace them all plus grow. It also doesn’t cover the 76D. With the 777 retired that’s 18 down. People are forgetting that airlines...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Aug 10, 2021 12:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Fleet Thread - 2021
Replies: 1660
Views: 393142

Re: Delta Fleet Thread - 2021

Didn't realize Delta was going to leave the retro old First Class product on the A330-300 after refurbish. This should be good for United and AA. https://simpleflying.com/delta-a330-300-retrofitted-seat-map/ This isn’t their midlife mod. It’s just a quick mod for premium economy. These birds will g...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Used Delta Aircraft Purchase A359/737-900ER
Replies: 989
Views: 302135

Re: Rumor: Used Delta Aircraft Order

The Delta 739 configuration is terrible. I don’t understand why American took so much flack about oasis and densifying when Delta had already been doing it. DL is the only U.S. carrier I can think of that uses the half size forward galley on the 739ER, you would think that would lend more floor spa...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA launches 13 new routes from AUS
Replies: 99
Views: 19395

Re: AA launches 13 new routes from AUS

Y’all act like because a airline announces or moves first that another one can’t come in and still compete. That’s like saying because American has Miami on lock that spirit or southwest won’t be successful. Delta could still compete if they chose to lol. But kudos to AA for jumping.

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6
Replies: 73
Views: 13335

Re: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6

Am I missing something. You praise AA and UA and scrutinize DL yet without the fluff (cares money) it would appear DL strategy is working for them. I think DL strategy is also not short sighted. They are sticking to what they do best- they can flex their network up or down while utilizing the same ...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6
Replies: 73
Views: 13335

Re: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6

@panamair Yes, and I stand by my point that PRASM is highly relevant. The correct, standard type of PRASM is based on all seats, which dfwfanboy reports as 6.85 cents. Other calculations are imaginary, kind of like me reporting the gas mileage on half of my car. Yes, Delta chose not to sell some se...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6
Replies: 73
Views: 13335

Re: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6

As an example, the only way SWA managed to post a small Q1 net $116mil profit was thanks to $1.2 billion in PSP proceeds. Perhaps spoken from the lips of an employee of an airline that also took PSP. Southwest's achievement is remarkable. Full stop. Congratulations to them! No sour grapes from me, ...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Apr 27, 2021 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6
Replies: 73
Views: 13335

Re: 1Q21 $ fin/ops comparison AA DL UA WN AS B6

Although I don't agree with what AA management is (was) doing. But I can see soon AA will reap the reward from a simplified fleet structure and a young and fuel efficient fleet. I read an article saying they've been using the down time to add two more rows of seats to the A321 and 738 fleet. Person...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Apr 23, 2021 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Orders Another 25 A321 NEO + 25 Options
Replies: 161
Views: 30793

Re: Delta Orders Another 25 A321 NEO + 25 Options

Just my two sense. Delta has not made up its mind on 320 and 738 replacements but I doubt it will be a straight 321 options into replace them. The 717 is in the same boat but A221/223 would most likely be the replacement. I think it would be between the a225 (I picture it around the 320 size) and t...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Orders Another 25 A321 NEO + 25 Options
Replies: 161
Views: 30793

Re: Delta Orders Another 25 A321 NEO + 25 Options

Just my two sense. Delta has not made up its mind on 320 and 738 replacements but I doubt it will be a straight 321 options into replace them. The 717 is in the same boat but A221/223 would most likely be the replacement. I think it would be between the a225 (I picture it around the 320 size) and th...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta post Q1 Loss
Replies: 31
Views: 5370

Re: Delta post Q1 Loss

Another Delta is burning thread and everyone is better lol. Delta is fine. We don’t know if they are positioned to be better or worse. Only time will tell. Let’s just get all the reports and get a comparison. I think DL is well positioned to catch the cheap traffic. They have been competing througho...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Mar 31, 2021 9:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is Delta Doing?
Replies: 353
Views: 79563

Re: What is Delta Doing?

DL did the same thing every other carrier has done, what is so groundbreaking and smart about that? Interesting take, in that United the only other 744 operator in the US ordered the 77W which is practically the same size, and American who didn't even operate the 744, thought it best to grow to the...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is Delta Doing?
Replies: 353
Views: 79563

Re: What is Delta Doing?

One thing that has not been mentioned is DL's fleet strategy, which imho is the best in the airline industry. DL has managed to keep their capex under control and make smart decisions regarding fleet replacement. Their understanding of the TPAC market fragmentation and acquiring the A359 to replace...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA large AUS expansion
Replies: 210
Views: 31231

Re: AA large AUS expansion

I just think the motion that this will scare Delta or somehow limit their ability to get contracts is premature. Then again according to airliners every route announcement/strategy AA presents is inherently better than DL. It only the financials/business share would align. This is coming from someo...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 11, 2021 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA large AUS expansion
Replies: 210
Views: 31231

Re: AA large AUS expansion

I just think the motion that this will scare Delta or somehow limit their ability to get contracts is premature. Then again according to airliners every route announcement/strategy AA presents is inherently better than DL. It only the financials/business share would align. This is coming from someon...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA large AUS expansion
Replies: 210
Views: 31231

Re: AA large AUS expansion

Why do we think DL can’t still come in and steal Corporate customers? They have been successful in doing it before. Being the first to the make announcements doesn’t mean you will be successful. Delta wouldn’t make it a focus city without having backing of contracts or doing the due diligence. I’m s...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA LAX T4/T5 Renovation
Replies: 64
Views: 15091

Re: AA LAX T4/T5 Renovation

AA had a topping off ceremony today of the new core aka Terminal 4.5. They released a video as well with new renderings. It really looks like a reconstructed terminal should look. Airy. Bright. Spacious. With a unified façade from the beginning of Terminal 4 to end of Terminal 5. For the life of me...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?
Replies: 37
Views: 8902

Re: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?

People are still not understanding that they are only using the seat for a base? It can be customized to look like the haeco seat that was rumored. They mentioned walls. What seat has walls? The seat they showed in the article will look nothing like the final seat! Again there is another airline uti...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?
Replies: 37
Views: 8902

Re: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?

Hmmmmm didn’t another airline from the US announce the seat that Emirates is reportedly now using? That seat looked awfully similar to what Emirates was initially showing. That airline deliveries have been delayed (according to airliners). Perhaps they paved the way That can’t be a coincidence. The ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA 2020 Q2 results
Replies: 56
Views: 12394

Re: AA Q2 results

What I found very interesting on the Q2 earnings call and confirmation of what I’ve been saying for a while is: “Our hubs excluding the Northeast that is New York and Boston and the West Coast produce unit revenue premiums of 10% to 12% higher than the industry, indeed has grown since the time of o...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta-LATAM JV News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 125
Views: 35909

Re: Delta-LATAM sign JV Agreement

Wow. Fascinating. So Delta is all hands on deck for its Miami expansion even post-COVID. Yes! Plus I don’t think LA’s entire MIA network is going to come back - EZE gone, secondary Brazil is doubtful. It is going to be interesting to watch DL fight AS at SEA, B6 at BOS and AA at MIA - all when dema...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 12:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroméxico News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 372
Views: 82719

Re: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11

More than likely the current stock gets wiped out in bankruptcy and Delta will lose their investment. Where did you get this info from? Is there proof that they will loose there investment or is this just airliners hype? How can you be sure that they don’t have agreements in place/ aren’t working t...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroméxico News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 372
Views: 82719

Re: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11

DL investment airlines seem to be doing well... This is a common refrain around here lately, but I don't think the strategy was bad overall. Delta has been a value investor in other airlines - they have consistently stepped in to make investments in struggling carriers that unlock value by bringing...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Jul 01, 2020 11:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeroméxico News and Discussion Thread
Replies: 372
Views: 82719

Re: Updated: Aeroméxico files for Chapter 11

How does DL's investment get treated in a CH11? More than likely the current stock gets wiped out in bankruptcy and Delta will lose their investment. Where did you get this info from? Is there proof that they will loose there investment or is this just airliners hype? How can you be sure that they ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat May 30, 2020 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United eliminates 13 executive positions
Replies: 50
Views: 15598

Re: United eliminates 13 executive positions

Can’t have one Ua topic without bringing up Delta. Focus on UA employees and not DL.

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by LawAndOrder
Thu May 28, 2020 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier
Replies: 2164
Views: 407892

Re: Delta plans to emerge a "smaller" carrier

So, the enhanced retiree package (age+ yrs service =70) is basically about 6 months of severance pay, 8 positive space tickets, 6 special retiree flight listings, above regular retirees but below active employees. 1 year normal flight privileges. 2 years medical/dental/vision. I know i'm missing a ...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 26, 2020 6:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 488
Views: 131624

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

The Delta hate is real. QR couldn’t stop delta from connecting with LA they certainly won’t be pushing DL away. They will be a thorn but I’m sure QR/DL will learn to coexist. Yes they gain more from the bankruptcy loan but that doesn’t give them full ruling power. Plus the check hasn’t been written...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 26, 2020 6:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 488
Views: 131624

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

LATAM USA’s social media accounts have announced a Chapter 11 filing. Bloomberg has picked up the story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-26/latam-airlines-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-stymied-by-lockdowns EDIT: added Bloomberg link I bet heads are exploding in Atlanta. Delta just had...

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by LawAndOrder
Tue May 26, 2020 6:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 488
Views: 131624

Re: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy

The Delta hate is real. QR couldn’t stop delta from connecting with LA they certainly won’t be pushing DL away. They will be a thorn but I’m sure QR/DL will learn to coexist. Yes they gain more from the bankruptcy loan but that doesn’t give them full ruling power. Plus the check hasn’t been written ...

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by LawAndOrder
Sun May 24, 2020 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: LATAM files for Bankruptcy
Replies: 488
Views: 131624

Re: LATAM moving towards bankruptcy

It’s crazy how so many people here speak opinions as fact. LA would be able to recapture the AA feed with delta adding flights to the top 20 markets in MIA. I think people believe that AA brought more to LA than they really did. That was why it was so easy for DL to take them away. It wasn’t just th...

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by LawAndOrder
Sat May 16, 2020 6:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 1547
Views: 171529

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

DL future longhaul widebody fleet will be 330/350. It seems many people cannot Accept that. Re the alleged killer deal. Airbus could even offer a better deal as Proven by Boeing - UA. You aren’t accounting for 767 replacement. All routes can’t support a 333/339 the 332 imho cost to much to operate ...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 15, 2020 2:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 1547
Views: 171529

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

Has any airline expressed the desire to retain what had been their standard long-haul markets pre-covid? That's a pipe dream, and should most certainly not be the expectation anywhere. DL has 26 359s and 32 339s on order, which is more than enough to cover various iterations of a long-haul network ...

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by LawAndOrder
Thu May 14, 2020 6:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2020
Replies: 1547
Views: 171529

Re: DL to permanently retire entire 777 fleet

A few things people are considering. When syd and jnb returns I doubt it will return (atleast close in) with the same amount of demand. Thus the higher variant 350s would be enough with minimal seat caps as I doubt they would be completely full. In 2-3 years I’m sure airbus would have an even higher...

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by LawAndOrder
Fri May 01, 2020 5:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: DL retired MD-80/90s quickly
Replies: 1226
Views: 288942

Re: DL retiring MD-80/90s quickly

[url][/url] Sadly the MD-88s and 90s, as well as the 717, was all that was keeping me loyal to Delta (well that and being in SLC) since I have to fly to the east coast every weekend 6 months per year. Delta is not what it used to be service wise and seems to have lost its way. With these beautiful a...

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by LawAndOrder
Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Updates - 2020
Replies: 1688
Views: 243379

Re: AA Fleet Updates - 2020

I have to say, I flew on an Oasis 321 and it was very nice. The bins were like nothing I have ever seen on a narrowbody airplane in the US. They were enormous. Did Airbus make those bins specifically for AA? It is really shocking how big they are. Also, power and USB ports at every seat. The tablet...

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by LawAndOrder
Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New AA uniform launches today
Replies: 54
Views: 9708

Re: New AA uniform launches today

[twoid][/twoid] Its really amazing how people are so against it...too much time on your hands. It's a NEW uniform. It's nice, fresh and sharp. I noticed it early today in my flight and good for them. The flight attendants were smiling and were proud of it. Jeez..move on. The only person upset is Par...

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