Never thought I’d say it but AA’s new cabins look better. More texture, wood and aluminum-look elements and just visually more appealing and upscale. https://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2022/A-Private-Premium-Experience-in-the-Sky-American-Airlines-Introduces-New-Flagship-Suite-Seats-FLT-09/defau...
Jump to postLooks like leather on the seat pan, cloth on the back rest. The seats look like they are all the same material (leather or leather-like). The only cloth pieces are the amenities sitting on the seats. Where are y’all seeing the pictures? The article did not have any pictures when I pulled it up. Now...
Jump to postThe economy seats look like cloth...are we going back from the leather/pleather? Looks like leather on the seat pan, cloth on the back rest. The seats look like they are all the same material (leather or leather-like). The only cloth pieces are the amenities sitting on the seats. Where are y’all se...
Jump to postTerminal B looks way better imo. The Delta terminal could have looked like Terminal B (with the two skybridges and the double-height ceilings). But Delta thought this was better (or cheaper). Lots of things that will not age well here --- the wood detailing, what looks like faux marble paneling, th...
Jump to postI’m pretty sure 31B is just temporary until they build the west head house. Once it’s complete it will look a lot different.
Jump to postTheoretically speaking, yes. IMO the affect of NK and F9 to the legacies of yesteryear is all relative. A rose by any other name smells as sweet. I think the main driver of the definition of a ULCC today is differentiated by the lack of what B6 brought to the legacies: seatback entertainment at eve...
Jump to postDelta was always planning a skyclub. Once the moved to 2/3 they studied just keeping the two open with upgrades but it wouldnt have given them enough space. They utilized the same space. The TSA ceiling were never going to be that high. Its a trade off.
Jump to postLAX will only allow the building to be a certain height. What yall are missing us they traded height to have a new massive club. Had they not created a full headhouse length club they could have raised the tsa and bag claim roof. Check in area height is actually pretty decent. The area near the win...
Jump to postLAX will only allow the building to be a certain height. What yall are missing us they traded height to have a new massive club. Had they not created a full headhouse length club they could have raised the tsa and bag claim roof. Check in area height is actually pretty decent. The area near the wind...
Jump to postTicketing area looks cramped. We'll have to see if it's any improvement over the current T2 setup. I'm also curious to see the gate areas. While nicely renovated, T2 is a way too small. When you're loading an A350 the gate areas are a mosh pit of people. I looked at their press page and I don't see...
Jump to postReport today that Delta plans to configure a sub fleet of A321NEOs for transcon service featuring new Delta One seats and a Premium Select cabin as well: https://airlineweekly.com/2022/03/delta-plans-new-lie-flat-transcontinental-seats-in-premium-travel-push/ Configuration to be 16 D1, 12 DPS, 54 C...
Jump to postFromCDGtoSYD wrote:God I hadn’t noticed before but those seats are slim.
Technically delta discontinued the partnership in covid.
Jump to postWould an A330-800 at ca. 200T be a viable replacement for the 767-300ER, for transatlantic routes, say? Its about the capacity of the 767-400, so a upgrade from the 763ER. While the lower MTOW helps with fees the A330-800 (light) still remains a extremely heavy airframe compared to the 767, we are ...
Jump to postI will reiterate it again, DL already has all the capacity it needs on order to replace the B763 with its orders for A339s. It has enough to replace some. But it won’t replace them all plus grow. It also doesn’t cover the 76D. With the 777 retired that’s 18 down. People are forgetting that airlines...
Jump to postDidn't realize Delta was going to leave the retro old First Class product on the A330-300 after refurbish. This should be good for United and AA. https://simpleflying.com/delta-a330-300-retrofitted-seat-map/ This isn’t their midlife mod. It’s just a quick mod for premium economy. These birds will g...
Jump to postThe Delta 739 configuration is terrible. I don’t understand why American took so much flack about oasis and densifying when Delta had already been doing it. DL is the only U.S. carrier I can think of that uses the half size forward galley on the 739ER, you would think that would lend more floor spa...
Jump to postY’all act like because a airline announces or moves first that another one can’t come in and still compete. That’s like saying because American has Miami on lock that spirit or southwest won’t be successful. Delta could still compete if they chose to lol. But kudos to AA for jumping.
Jump to postAm I missing something. You praise AA and UA and scrutinize DL yet without the fluff (cares money) it would appear DL strategy is working for them. I think DL strategy is also not short sighted. They are sticking to what they do best- they can flex their network up or down while utilizing the same ...
Jump to post@panamair Yes, and I stand by my point that PRASM is highly relevant. The correct, standard type of PRASM is based on all seats, which dfwfanboy reports as 6.85 cents. Other calculations are imaginary, kind of like me reporting the gas mileage on half of my car. Yes, Delta chose not to sell some se...
Jump to postAs an example, the only way SWA managed to post a small Q1 net $116mil profit was thanks to $1.2 billion in PSP proceeds. Perhaps spoken from the lips of an employee of an airline that also took PSP. Southwest's achievement is remarkable. Full stop. Congratulations to them! No sour grapes from me, ...
Jump to postAlthough I don't agree with what AA management is (was) doing. But I can see soon AA will reap the reward from a simplified fleet structure and a young and fuel efficient fleet. I read an article saying they've been using the down time to add two more rows of seats to the A321 and 738 fleet. Person...
Jump to postJust my two sense. Delta has not made up its mind on 320 and 738 replacements but I doubt it will be a straight 321 options into replace them. The 717 is in the same boat but A221/223 would most likely be the replacement. I think it would be between the a225 (I picture it around the 320 size) and t...
Jump to postJust my two sense. Delta has not made up its mind on 320 and 738 replacements but I doubt it will be a straight 321 options into replace them. The 717 is in the same boat but A221/223 would most likely be the replacement. I think it would be between the a225 (I picture it around the 320 size) and th...
Jump to postAnother Delta is burning thread and everyone is better lol. Delta is fine. We don’t know if they are positioned to be better or worse. Only time will tell. Let’s just get all the reports and get a comparison. I think DL is well positioned to catch the cheap traffic. They have been competing througho...
Jump to postDL did the same thing every other carrier has done, what is so groundbreaking and smart about that? Interesting take, in that United the only other 744 operator in the US ordered the 77W which is practically the same size, and American who didn't even operate the 744, thought it best to grow to the...
Jump to postOne thing that has not been mentioned is DL's fleet strategy, which imho is the best in the airline industry. DL has managed to keep their capex under control and make smart decisions regarding fleet replacement. Their understanding of the TPAC market fragmentation and acquiring the A359 to replace...
Jump to postI just think the motion that this will scare Delta or somehow limit their ability to get contracts is premature. Then again according to airliners every route announcement/strategy AA presents is inherently better than DL. It only the financials/business share would align. This is coming from someo...
Jump to postI just think the motion that this will scare Delta or somehow limit their ability to get contracts is premature. Then again according to airliners every route announcement/strategy AA presents is inherently better than DL. It only the financials/business share would align. This is coming from someon...
Jump to postWhy do we think DL can’t still come in and steal Corporate customers? They have been successful in doing it before. Being the first to the make announcements doesn’t mean you will be successful. Delta wouldn’t make it a focus city without having backing of contracts or doing the due diligence. I’m s...
Jump to postAA had a topping off ceremony today of the new core aka Terminal 4.5. They released a video as well with new renderings. It really looks like a reconstructed terminal should look. Airy. Bright. Spacious. With a unified façade from the beginning of Terminal 4 to end of Terminal 5. For the life of me...
Jump to postPeople are still not understanding that they are only using the seat for a base? It can be customized to look like the haeco seat that was rumored. They mentioned walls. What seat has walls? The seat they showed in the article will look nothing like the final seat! Again there is another airline uti...
Jump to postHmmmmm didn’t another airline from the US announce the seat that Emirates is reportedly now using? That seat looked awfully similar to what Emirates was initially showing. That airline deliveries have been delayed (according to airliners). Perhaps they paved the way That can’t be a coincidence. The ...
Jump to postWhat I found very interesting on the Q2 earnings call and confirmation of what I’ve been saying for a while is: “Our hubs excluding the Northeast that is New York and Boston and the West Coast produce unit revenue premiums of 10% to 12% higher than the industry, indeed has grown since the time of o...
Jump to postWow. Fascinating. So Delta is all hands on deck for its Miami expansion even post-COVID. Yes! Plus I don’t think LA’s entire MIA network is going to come back - EZE gone, secondary Brazil is doubtful. It is going to be interesting to watch DL fight AS at SEA, B6 at BOS and AA at MIA - all when dema...
Jump to postMore than likely the current stock gets wiped out in bankruptcy and Delta will lose their investment. Where did you get this info from? Is there proof that they will loose there investment or is this just airliners hype? How can you be sure that they don’t have agreements in place/ aren’t working t...
Jump to postDL investment airlines seem to be doing well... This is a common refrain around here lately, but I don't think the strategy was bad overall. Delta has been a value investor in other airlines - they have consistently stepped in to make investments in struggling carriers that unlock value by bringing...
Jump to postHow does DL's investment get treated in a CH11? More than likely the current stock gets wiped out in bankruptcy and Delta will lose their investment. Where did you get this info from? Is there proof that they will loose there investment or is this just airliners hype? How can you be sure that they ...
Jump to postCan’t have one Ua topic without bringing up Delta. Focus on UA employees and not DL.
Jump to postSo, the enhanced retiree package (age+ yrs service =70) is basically about 6 months of severance pay, 8 positive space tickets, 6 special retiree flight listings, above regular retirees but below active employees. 1 year normal flight privileges. 2 years medical/dental/vision. I know i'm missing a ...
Jump to postThe Delta hate is real. QR couldn’t stop delta from connecting with LA they certainly won’t be pushing DL away. They will be a thorn but I’m sure QR/DL will learn to coexist. Yes they gain more from the bankruptcy loan but that doesn’t give them full ruling power. Plus the check hasn’t been written...
Jump to postLATAM USA’s social media accounts have announced a Chapter 11 filing. Bloomberg has picked up the story: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-26/latam-airlines-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-stymied-by-lockdowns EDIT: added Bloomberg link I bet heads are exploding in Atlanta. Delta just had...
Jump to postThe Delta hate is real. QR couldn’t stop delta from connecting with LA they certainly won’t be pushing DL away. They will be a thorn but I’m sure QR/DL will learn to coexist. Yes they gain more from the bankruptcy loan but that doesn’t give them full ruling power. Plus the check hasn’t been written ...
Jump to postIt’s crazy how so many people here speak opinions as fact. LA would be able to recapture the AA feed with delta adding flights to the top 20 markets in MIA. I think people believe that AA brought more to LA than they really did. That was why it was so easy for DL to take them away. It wasn’t just th...
Jump to postDL future longhaul widebody fleet will be 330/350. It seems many people cannot Accept that. Re the alleged killer deal. Airbus could even offer a better deal as Proven by Boeing - UA. You aren’t accounting for 767 replacement. All routes can’t support a 333/339 the 332 imho cost to much to operate ...
Jump to postHas any airline expressed the desire to retain what had been their standard long-haul markets pre-covid? That's a pipe dream, and should most certainly not be the expectation anywhere. DL has 26 359s and 32 339s on order, which is more than enough to cover various iterations of a long-haul network ...
Jump to postA few things people are considering. When syd and jnb returns I doubt it will return (atleast close in) with the same amount of demand. Thus the higher variant 350s would be enough with minimal seat caps as I doubt they would be completely full. In 2-3 years I’m sure airbus would have an even higher...
Jump to post[url][/url] Sadly the MD-88s and 90s, as well as the 717, was all that was keeping me loyal to Delta (well that and being in SLC) since I have to fly to the east coast every weekend 6 months per year. Delta is not what it used to be service wise and seems to have lost its way. With these beautiful a...
Jump to postI have to say, I flew on an Oasis 321 and it was very nice. The bins were like nothing I have ever seen on a narrowbody airplane in the US. They were enormous. Did Airbus make those bins specifically for AA? It is really shocking how big they are. Also, power and USB ports at every seat. The tablet...
Jump to post[twoid][/twoid] Its really amazing how people are so against it...too much time on your hands. It's a NEW uniform. It's nice, fresh and sharp. I noticed it early today in my flight and good for them. The flight attendants were smiling and were proud of it. Jeez..move on. The only person upset is Par...
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