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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

frigatebird wrote:
I guess the LH 787s will be a very common sight a year from now

Yes, but rollout date does not equal delivery or start of ops. The first one of this batch will start ops earliest in December 23. Look for end of 2024 for all of them to fly in regular ops

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

Kno wrote:
Do we have a decent timeline left on 747s and a346s sticking around @ LH?

At least two years, B744 most likely longer.

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

5 of these are going to Austrian expected after 2024 which I believe are going to be equipped with GE engines to create commonality with the 5 soon to be ex-Lufthansa aircraft joining the fleet next year. The final 2 might be RR powered destined for Lufthansa. Its not certain but it would certainly...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

mercure1 wrote:
Per the internal schedule advisory first resumed LH A380 service will be LH424 to BOS effective June 1. Followed by JFK LH410 effective July 4.

I think they never served BOS with the A380, so technically they cannot resume it

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Re: FAA to propose 25 hour CVR retention requirement

This is already an EASA requirement and also required for non-EASA airlines flying into Europe. So major US carriers are already starting to comply. Now that the boxes already exist, it makes sense for the FAA to require this as well. That was one of the reasons for the delay in the B787 deliveries...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

zkojq wrote:
So the A35K delivery slots are quite near term. Unsurprisingly, it sounds like Spohr doesn't have much confidence in Boeing regarding 777-9X deliveries. Wouldn't be the first.

"Quite near term" means deliveries start in 2026. Still before the 779 IMO

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion - 2023

Looks like 7 additional 787s are NTUs 955 - ex Norwegian 971 - ex Norwegian 983 - ex Norwegian 988 - ex Air Europa 992 - ex Air Europa 1011 - ex Norwegian 1028 - ex Air Europa Any word on what interiors these will get? Also, are these likely to go to Austrian? No, those are the NTUs that LH bought ...

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Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2022

An old friend of the site posting elsewhere points out that LEAP 1A uses CMC components, same as GE9X, and that LEAP 1A had a problem described as "related to flaking of the coating on a shroud". Its not beyond all possibilities that engines designed at the same time using the same techno...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

I have one more rumor to add regarding Munich (maybe this was already mentioned somewhere): Been on LH111 MUC-FRA last weekend (787-9), where a lot of the pax in business class were actually LH employees, talking about the aircraft and the future. One of them mentioned, that the next bunch of A350s...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

http://kpae.blogspot.com/2022/07/paine-field-july-12.html 787 deliveries to kick of July 30th with American Airlines, quickly followed by August 1st with a second American Let's see if that works out. Boeing just discovered that they have to change all cockpit windows and simply don't have the part...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

SInGAPORE_AIR wrote:
Are there any B787 deliveries expected next week commencing 24th October please ?

LH #2

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

To clarify, I was only talking about the 787’s already built and sitting around waiting for delivery. I could have made that clearer. I was under the impression that quite a lot of 787’s already built would be delivered fairly quickly, but it’s only been a handful. The delivery process takes almost...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

CPH-R wrote:
I see OE-LZN, the first OS A320neo, has been delivered to VIE in an all-white paint job (photos not yet on A.net, but available elsewhere). Anyone know why it was delivered like that?

The decision which airline inside LHG receives the aircraft has been made too late. They will paint the tail later

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

More winter reductions by Lufthansa, this time around it's Austin, Seattle, Vancouver and Montreal. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/220909-lhnw22inc At this rate their winter network will be extremely modest. I wouldn't take this as granted; in fact, in coming weeks some more LH destinations will sw...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

MileHFL400 wrote:
Any chance we ll start seeing these 787’s at NBO?

as of the current planning: no. might happen once the fleet starts growing next year

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

https://twitter.com/spaethflies/status/ ... X4vj4n2Txw

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Germany and rest of Europe in general. Inflation numbers are nuts in some places and now the summer rush is ending it’s very visible again how the world is not yet the same as pre covid in terms of travel etc. On the other hand seasonal reductions incl. shut down of temporary operations towards som...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Opus99 wrote:
https://twitter.com/spaethflies/status/1560550862799441920?s=21&t=dGYTX3thsn2t_z_-GpTOXA

Coming end of august. Second frame in the fall

D-ABPD is delivered 8 weeks later, last week of October, to be precise

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

MileHFL400 wrote:
I’ve seen LH’s first bird taking a customer flight this weekend. Delivery this week maybe?

no, won't happen this week. End of August is the target

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

bigger gap in seats between it and the A330s than I expected. Thanks! Because these are primed to replace the A343s, not the A330s (which are newer). That said that is configuration for 787s ntu by Hainan which I believe is not planned to be changed at this time. The direct factory fresh order 787s...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Jshank83 wrote:
Has LH released the seating arrangement for their 787 yet?

Will be 26C 21E 247M. C in 1-2-1 Config

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

Agreed. The article says a small number of new 787 have windshields that needed to be tested due to a change made by the manufacturer, that Boeing had just discovered. There is no news after that. So likely either there was no issue, or the issue was addressed for those aircraft. It is possible tha...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

http://kpae.blogspot.com/2022/07/paine-field-july-12.html 787 deliveries to kick of July 30th with American Airlines, quickly followed by August 1st with a second American Let's see if that works out. Boeing just discovered that they have to change all cockpit windows and simply don't have the part...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

http://kpae.blogspot.com/2022/07/paine-field-july-12.html 787 deliveries to kick of July 30th with American Airlines, quickly followed by August 1st with a second American Let's see if that works out. Boeing just discovered that they have to change all cockpit windows and simply don't have the part...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

JLGordon wrote:
Looks like a hail storm has hit TEV last week and damaged all of the LH planes there. Anybody has pictures?

Think of the surface of a golf ball applied to the flaps. Fuselage area with thicker material is ok.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production Thread - 2022

So you’re happy to allow a max10 without EICAS fly December 31st 2022 but not janauary 1st 2023? Whilst knowing this is the last iteration of the 737 family. Aviation regulations are using deadlines a lot. That's common and accepted. If an OEM doesn't accomplish something before that deadline, we s...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

But these CVRs should be mandatory for other aircraft types than 787s too, wouldn't they? So I don't know why it would be a technical challenge for the 787. Can't imagine their regular CVR suppliers can't make 25h recording time black boxes. To me as a layman that seems one of the simpler technical...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

travaz wrote:
What would the issue be with the Flight recorder? that is pretty mature tech.

New aircraft need to have CVRs with 25h recording time. That value was raised from 2h a few years. Boeing struggled with that

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

I now agree with JohanTally that the FAA approval will come before the Farnborough air show on July 17, and agree with Blotto, that actual delivery will likely start in August. They still have issues with the flight recorder that won't be solved before 7/20. Don't put too much money on an announcem...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

Not before end of July Respectfully, others have stated that the DOT audit of FAA will do nothing to hinder deliveries. SO, on what basis do you think it won't happen before mid July when there is big air show at Farnborough? The date has nothing to do with the DOT audit. I won't disclose what my d...

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Re: Boeing 787 Production/Delivery Thread - 2022

Not really sure about Everett's delivery plans but Charleston is supposed to deliver LN1099(AA) first, followed by LN1098(BA) and anything after LN1127 which is the clean aircraft that wont require any rework Any idea when deliveries will start up again? Should be fairly soon I’d imagine Not before...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Some more details about the A380-return: https://www.aero.de/news-42941/Wie-und-warum-Lufthansa-die-A380-wieder-einsetzt.html (German). Short summary: Four or five of the remaining eight A380 will be reactivated, all stationed in Munich. Routes are not yet announced. Six A380 will go back to Airbus...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Nothing has changed regarding the A380 and its economics. Its still handicapped and poor fit for bulk of its airlines and networks. The only reason its coming back is as Carsten Spohr says the company is in a bad position and needs capacity. Its more a move of desperation than any affinity for the ...

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Re: 737 MAX 10 Uncertainty Potentially holding up 16 billion dollars worth of Sales

At some point a line has to be drawn and EICAS will be introduced on 737. That point was 2011 or maybe 1995. The geriatric 737 crew alerting system played a bad role in a series of 737MAX and 737NG incidents and accidents. Somehow Boeing was able to push it thru in 1995 and 2011, bending the paperw...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

Or at least originally ordered by other airlines, as those 7 are supposed to be delivered from 2025 onwards. (While the original 25 are being delivered in a tighter schedule) So assuming those are already built and sitting in the desert for another 3 years is a bit weird. These are probably just de...

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

frigatebird wrote:
I think the "originally intended for other airlines" in the Lufthansa press release mentioned below, was a reference to Austrian. I think Swiss will get A350s eventually.

No it's a reference to those aircraft being NTUs

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Re: Lufthansa Group News and Discussion Thread - 2022

https://investor-relations.lufthansagro ... charts.pdf
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Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2022

zkojq wrote:
I wonder if this is the push that LH needs to upgrade some A350 orders to the -1000.

Given the ODDs for C and F seats, no. Maybe there are some white tails available. But I don't see the existing order being changed.

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Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2022

A389Fly wrote:
Gonna be interesting if they are all going to Munich.

At least that's the plan for the 10 A346 that will be reactivated

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Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2022

Something is wrong regarding the 787-9, either with this well informed website (https://sites.google.com/view/europeanairlinefleets/dlh/lhdlh) or with boefamily and airfleets. EAF says: LN62729 D-ABPA LN62730 -PB LN62733 -PC LN62734 -PD LN62143 -PE Airfleets says: LN62729 D-ABPD LN62730 -PA LN62733...

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Re: Lufthansa Group Fleet Thread - 2020

A321Lufthansa wrote:
zkojq wrote:
First Swiss A320neo is about to be delivered.

I see it also features a new cabin. When can we expect first LH A320neo equipped with it?

All NEOs delivered from now on have a group spec. Same cabin for LH/LX/OS and other harmonizations

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Re: A350 engine shutdown incidents linked to cockpit drink spills

Update from the latest Airbus webinar: Current ATP requires the unit to operate normally after 30min. Now they found an effect by spillage after that period on a new unit and on the one from the first incident. So the first incident is explained. Second still under analysis. As a result the "li...

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Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

Here's an interesting article from FlightGlobal with comments from Ihssane Mounir, Boeing's vice-president of commercial sales and marketing: https://www.flightglobal.com/singapore-air-show-2020/boeing-head-of-sales-still-discounts-narrowbodies-as-mid-market-answer/136677.article This quote in part...

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Re: A350 engine shutdown incidents linked to cockpit drink spills

There is no evidence that supports the idea of both engines being at risk. They are still investigating the issue and thankfully don't jump to conclusions. Hence the "as long as we don't know be extra carefully with liquids"-approach https://ad.easa.europa.eu/ad/2020-0020-E "Results ...

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Re: A350 engine shutdown incidents linked to cockpit drink spills

My question that the EAD answers is that this issue could shutdown both engines. This is not a joking matter. This had better not be the only action the EASA/FAA takes. This issue needs to be fixed immediately. Everytime an A350 takes to the air, there's a real risk of it turning into a glider. Cou...

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Re: Pegasus Airlines Flight PC2193 Runway Overrun at Istanbul (SAW)

Lot's of people have died in 319,320,321 landing accidents as well. I don't think they cared whether or not the fuselage was in 1, 2 or 3 pieces. The trouble is, you keep making these claims, when they demonstrably are not true. Nobody has ever died in an A319 landing accident, because there has't ...

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Re: A350 engine shutdown incidents linked to cockpit drink spills

I guess this means they can't really address the root cause, moisture causing a switch to trip and sending inconsistent data to the EEC which commanded a high pressure valve to shut off. Are you suggesting pouring a cup of coffee on the centre console of any other aircraft apart from an A350 will n...

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Re: Boeing NMA in doubt as customers push for all new 737MAX and 757 replacement

That’s quite possible, but something that could also become a reality for Boeing is losing WB customers who came to the conclusion that it makes sense to go to Airbus for all of their needs, especially if Airbus gives them a good deal on a combined WB/NB order. Only 20% of the world's population ha...

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Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

The real issue is that each 737 they build costs Boeing real money to build yet is bringing in no revenue. There's a limit to how long a business can do such a thing and IMO we've reached the point where the calculated gamble has gone bust. Can they afford to shutdown production? If they do so, the...

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Re: No ID check on (German) domestic flights

If there is no legal requirement, the quicker boarding process will always outweigh the risk involved with another person flying on the ticket. There is simply nothing to gain in checking the ID for the airline. And since it adds nothing to security, some sane countries will not force that ID check....

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