Why not certify the -10 as an independent type from the -8/9 and get over all the trouble at the cost of a different pilot pool. Because then they have to start over as if clean sheet and lots of things that get grandfathered from the original 737 type certificate no longer get grandfathered. The p...
Jump to postThey haven't flown it yet. All they have is modeling and simulation results to tell them one way or the other. The nacelles, presumably, have the same aero characteristics as they do on the Max8 and Max9, so, presumably, generate the same lift component at the same offset from CG at the same AoAs an...
Jump to postCould we see the XLR on DEN-HNL in addition to EWR and IAD TATL? DEN-LIH and -KOA seems more likely since DEN-HNL and DEN-OGG are already using 772 vs DEN-LIH and -KOA which are using the 752. I should add: if history guides us, it is more likely that as the youngest of the old TATL 752s are replac...
Jump to postPHLspecial wrote:Could we see the XLR on DEN-HNL in addition to EWR and IAD TATL?
This has been analyzed. Seattle spends far and away the most time travelling.
Jump to postBut when people say that modern airplanes have become too complex to fly, they should probably ask the people that do the flying. And when people use the 737 Max MCAS as the example of "too complex to fly" they clearly don't understand the relative complexity of the 737 Max, with or witho...
Jump to postWell, Douglas and McDonnell ceased to exist after some bad decisions. Since US would never allow foreign ownership, there are not too many options. How does "Lockheed 787" sound for you? Lockheed got to death's door over the L1011. Guaranteed: LockMart won't do commercial aviation again i...
Jump to postNuke Boeing from orbit. It's the only way to be safe. The hyperbole about this is getting a little much. Tens, more probably hundreds, of billions of passengers have safely completed travel on Boeing aircraft. Hundreds of thousands will do so today alone. No single company has contributed more to t...
Jump to postRegulation text that MCAS intended to address: (a) It must be possible to produce and to correct roll and yaw by unreversed use of the aileron and rudder controls, up to the time the airplane is stalled. No abnormal nose-up pitching may occur. The longitudinal control force must be positive up to a...
Jump to postTTailedTiger wrote:But it has happened before with Egypt Air, Silk Air, Japan Airlines, Germanwings. It almost happened to FedEx 705.
In the case of the National crash it was a result of a 15ish ton MRAP breaking free of its straps and rolling to the aft area of the cargo hold. And the spare tire mounted on the rear of the MRAP punching a hole in the aft pressure bulkhead and breaking one of the mounting points for the horizontal...
Jump to postMind boggling. Thanks for posting. I would have been 7. This video leaves little doubt that telecom and IT advances are probably the biggest enablers of the air transport system we have today--more so than the aircraft advances themselves. Sure, wide bodies helped, but would they have been usable wi...
Jump to postUm, me. Many is the time we left Denver at 5:30 or 6 to connect at SFO and get here at noontime +/- (+ in the winter, - in the summer). But that meant getting up at 2:30 or so to get to the airport, park, take the bus to the terminal--always a longer wait at 4:30 in the morning--and so on. So, yeah...
Jump to postThey said, apparently, that "United will use the money to modernize tools and resources used by company employees at the state's airports, as well as enhancing its customer experience." Since the state owns the terminals, but not the tenant equipment, this makes sense. That doesn't sound l...
Jump to postIt's the Air Force's planes. Not belong to the President or the white house or have anything to do with Trump. They transport the President (or sometimes VP) from point A to point B. Give the anti-trump proganda a break. There's nothing Anti-Trump Propaganda about it. He's the commander-in-chief. I...
Jump to postConsidering President Trump wouldn't be designing it, nor have the final say, no. We know that how? I have little doubt he won't be laying marker to sketchpad; but it seems he knows what he wants. And he's clearly in a position to get what he wants. And he's fond enough of himself to be sure he kno...
Jump to postBTW, Raymond Loewy, a professional at this sort of thing, did the 1962 design pro bono. Mr. Trump probably won't be able to get anybody to do a new one that cheaply. Unless he and his kids color something up in crayon while sitting around a table at Mar A Lago.
Jump to postThis has been reported in mainstream press, e.g., http://fortune.com/2018/07/12/trump-air-force-one-redesign/. So it's not The Onion talking. I'm not opposed to professional design and branding people updating the livery. Why not? I can't imagine that's what Trump has in mind. Hire experts? Accept t...
Jump to postNo wonder this aircraft is still on the ground at HNL: see https://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1382491&start=250#p20197035 for a catalog of the damage.
Jump to postNo way I´d fly on a Twin over the open Pacific. What a horror to depend on one engine on a old plane way past its prime for 3 hours. Then the *only* way you'll get from the mainland US to Hawaii is by shipping yourself and hoping you get manifested on a UPS or Kalita 747 or UPS or FedEx MD-11. Ever...
Jump to postI seem to recall a respected member here having said that it takes a fleet of 200 or more to establish a viable spares market for any model. The 747-8 is not near that even if freighters are accounted let alone the Intercontinentals. Exactly. And the USAF is whining about the parts prices and avail...
Jump to postAfter, or before, the *long* ride across the pond in a 777 Y seat, I find the walk between the Interisland and the Diamond Head a good opportunity to stretch my legs and much more pleasant than, say, waiting, back in the 1980s, in the Diamond Head. YMMV.
Jump to postIn the event of an engine failure (no, not the case here apparently), regulations require landing at the nearest suitable airport in point of time. IOW, the soonest you can land safely and that can allow for interpretation. For example, let's say that you're on a trans-con and near EGE (Eagle, Colo...
Jump to postHere's a blog post with some introductory history on this one: http://www.nycaviation.com/2017/05/faa-comply-president-trumps-executive-order-regulations/41662. Yup. From the clowns who brought us Freedom Fries. The Right Wingers never like a regulation unless it's one they invented.
Jump to postWhat fun you can have when somebody else is paying for the fuel and the only mission requirement is 18 hours in the air.
Jump to postIt's all simple math, as jetmatt alluded to. I have no clue and don't really care, but the conversation was ignoring that source of traffic growth. United, BTW, employs lots of people to do this kind of math. With better input data, on things like projected population growth in the DEN catch area, ...
Jump to postjetero wrote:Is it DEN and all connecting markets growing at 5% per year for 10 years?
Have you ever been stranded @DEN when the trains aren't running? That's not an optimal experience. No, but I have been stuck in an airplane sitting on the ramp, waiting to be marshalled into a gate, when there's lightning in the area. More than once. Also a sub-optimal experience. Have you been str...
Jump to postSPREE34 wrote:Hopefully they'll be smart enough to include the walking option (like ATL) this time.
it's no better than ATL, DFW, CLT, PHL, the list goes on and on. No planner or engineer today would design CLT, but what a hell of an efficient place (much more so than DEN, which was a clean sheet design). My money says Concourse D won't be built in my lifetime (if ever). (And I'm 40.) I have no c...
Jump to postTLDR: we can disagree. It's OK. Seen as a white elephant by whom? People around the country that didn't really know what was going on but knew what they'd heard? I'm a Denver native, lived in the city from 1958 to 2014, and was a frequent traveler from both Stapleton and DIA. (And still transit to a...
Jump to postCapital is a finite resource. You seem to not comprehend that. They don't seem to be having trouble generating capital, meeting demand/customer requirements, and doing it all while investing a whole lot less than many other US airports. The real question is whether the security screening expansion/...
Jump to postAnd ATL has sailed along without switchbacks or problems worth noting for 40 years? Seems like a waste of money. Like a pedestrian tunnel. Well, ATL had pedestrian tunnels--and much, much, shorter ones than DIA would have required, so maybe they judged that adding the crossovers to push availabilit...
Jump to postSo what's the difference between switchbacks that'll never be used and a pedestrian tunnel? They allow the system to work around a problem on one side of a station or with a single train anywhere in the tunnel so that service can continue with one train/side of a station down. They're also surely a...
Jump to postJudge1310 wrote:Now you're putting words in my mouth (so to speak).
Here's a story from Y2K about pondering the pedestrian tunnel. They talk about adding it between the APM tracks inbound/outbound, but don't mention how they would have solved the problem of the existing crossover(s). Seventeen years later and still no pedestrian tunnel. I vaguely recall that a tunne...
Jump to postThe trains may run on a straight line, but there are numerous cross-overs, so the space between the inbound and outbound track, the width of the stations, isn't--never was--usable for a pedestrian tunnel. I suspect they traded, very early on, distance between the concourses and the terminal--It's pu...
Jump to postMy apologies if you weren't aware of this distinction by your not interpolating further from what was typed. I'm aware of the distinction. Twice you've asserted (mis-typed) that the evacuation certification test was somehow a burden on the (always over-burdened?) airlines. Right before going off ab...
Jump to postTheir slide deck says they were targeting "capacity of terminal from 50 to more than 80 million annual passengers (2031-2032) based on 65% origin & destination". I'd read that as 52M transiting the terminal. But I am at somewhat of a loss which number is which when they talk about 58.3...
Jump to postProbably. But it is still a critical point of failure. So is the control tower. Engineering figures risk as probability * impact. Train failure has been demonstrated to be a very low probability event that doesn't hurt anybody or even prevent many of them from making a connection--though the crew m...
Jump to postthey haven't left themselves the option to expand if they change their minds later. The built in room for expansion was one of the brilliant and unique things that DEN had over every airport design in history before, and the current management has thrown that out. They are claiming this effort expa...
Jump to postIMO this was a design flaw--not providing redundancy in the case of a train system failure (which has happened before for a long enough period of time). The backup is a fleet of buses. I wonder what the availability of the trains has been since 1995? I bet it's in 4 nines territory. (Less than 19 h...
Jump to postThe solution to people from other seats encroaching on your space is that the simply be forced to purchase two seats if they can't fit in the standard space. And how, and when, and by whom, would that be forced? I'm going to force the guy next to me to buy out my seat after I get on and he spills o...
Jump to postJudge1310 wrote:do you know how stressed out airlines get when it comes time to certify an aircraft type?
DLPMMM wrote:Just saying what?
travaz wrote:I rode a Greyhound to Tucson from Phoenix to pick up a car and the seats were very comfortable.
The solution to people from other seats encroaching on your space is that the simply be forced to purchase two seats if they can't fit in the standard space. And how, and when, and by whom, would that be forced? I'm going to force the guy next to me to buy out my seat after I get on and he spills o...
Jump to postAs much as I despise 10-abreast in a 777 (787 9x doesn't seem any better, but I've never spent seven+ hours in one), the bigger safety issue is probably the demonstrated likelihood that people will not leave their carry-on behind in the "unlikely event" of an emergency evacuation.
Jump to postWill an underground walkway to concourses B and C ever be added at DEN? It seems unlikely--with the distances involved it would be a *long* walk. And a moving sidewalk slow enough to safely get on and off would take a *long* time to get from one to the next. Remember that DEN was designed to have t...
Jump to postLooking at their renderings, I wonder why so much unused space on the outside of either TSA hall? It seems like hallways to nowhere or just for the sake of leaving all the drop off doors. The other concern I see is the crowding around the baggage claims. They are already tight and the ones that wil...
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