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by axiom
Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Airlines Busiest Routes
Replies: 23
Views: 4674

Re: Delta Airlines Busiest Routes

It’s peak Presidents Day recess. Whole NE is off and in Florida. Probably not best time to look at FL frequencies as they will be at their highest now. To do a better comparison you should take a shoulder month and compare schedules. I imagine MCO for seats, LGA for flights. Eh, DL is pretty consis...

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by axiom
Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham
Replies: 287
Views: 31390

Re: A330-800 out, B787-9 in at Hawaiian? -Leeham

If they sold the 789 at 100 million or so, isn't it amazing that it cost around the same as a A321Neo? ...boggles the mind to see those margins ...one is huge and the other is microscopical... only for the sake of killing the 338.... wonder why... Best Regards TRB They tried to kill the C series. T...

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by axiom
Wed Feb 21, 2018 8:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Airlines Busiest Routes
Replies: 23
Views: 4674

Re: Delta Airlines Busiest Routes

The top routes out of ATL, all of which have competition but are generally dominated by DL: 1. MCO - 1.41 m - 17x (752, 753, 321) 2. LGA - 1.20 m - 16x (320, 321, 738) 3. FLL - 1.17 m - 13x (M90, 321, 739, 752) 4. LAX - 1.11 m - 10x (321, 738, 739, 752, 753, 764, 772) 5. TPA - 1.04 m - 14x (M90, 739...

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by axiom
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue is having an internal crisis
Replies: 52
Views: 15172

Re: Jetblue is having an internal crisis

Alas, I'm afraid I disagree -- I think you are operating with too narrow understanding of what Schumpeter was describing, perhaps one that has stripped out the foundational Marxist aspects. Schumpeter calls CD "process of industrial mutation that incessantly revolutionizes the economic structu...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue is having an internal crisis
Replies: 52
Views: 15172

Re: Jetblue is having an internal crisis

Erm... Schumpeter's Creative Destruction was about technological change/innovation. Not about what you describe (pressure from legacies and pressure from ULCCs). I always saw JetBlue as kind of trying to strike a balance between the the Legacies (burdened with extremely varied fleets, legacy costs/...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue is having an internal crisis
Replies: 52
Views: 15172

Re: Jetblue is having an internal crisis

It’s almost like the small carriers have taken on the labor problems of the legacies from a few years ago. Long story short, that's capitalism. Schumpeter's "creative destruction".Pressure from above (from the legacies, liberating from their problems through bankruptcy and consolidation) ...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 98
Views: 8154

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Proving flights? What's there to prove? Through the JV, DL/AF/KL will know the market very well already. The 773 is a whole lot of plane for a new market, but it would be great to see AF back in a growth mode. Tough to imagine with their labor problems, unfortunately. I know I'd love to see their t...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13377

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

Well, I see a sign that someone equates capacity with profitability, sustainability, and/or the absence of opportunity cost... ...which is rather presumptuous when dealing with a carrier/market that's tried-then-pulled-out of Florida three times over the last decade or so. This is -not- evidence of...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: San Diego Thread - 2018
Replies: 98
Views: 8154

Re: San Diego Thread - 2018

Typically the interactive route map automatically reflects any flight loaded in the booking system. So if AF has loaded a one-time charter or special flight, it will appear on the map. It is not an indication of anything more or less. It would be good to know why AF is bringing the bird in, in the f...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AIr Iceland Connect cuts UK flights
Replies: 11
Views: 2513

Re: AIr Iceland Connect cuts UK flights

So competition is too strong but Brexit is a simply and easy excuse for a failed route. Brexit Britain is booming in terms of flights. Brexit hasn't happened. While there have been market jitters about its impact, it's still too soon to throw this around as a rationale, imo. I'm disappointed to see...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13377

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

I think Europeans are bored with a Miami , it’s like a tiny overpriced version of Havana - unless they’re going on cruises Metropolitan Miami is three times bigger than Havana, fyi. And is arguably the financial services capital of Latin America (or, more precisely, for brokering international capi...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13377

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

Please keep the politics out of the thread and discuss the topic otherwise the thread will have to be locked Fair enough. A few general observations - please feel free to delete this or move it to another place on the forum: 1. This thread, like many others, includes inherently political debates (q...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 Air France unions plans strike
Replies: 59
Views: 5838

Re: 10 Air France unions plans strike

Since there's so much ideological hot air flying around in this thread, I'm going to throw in my two cents: we work to maintain a decent quality and dignity of life, not simply to "optimize" returns for the elite. Unions are one important way to maintain a balance that respects the rights,...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13377

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

Anyone see a sign that KLM is struggling? Well, I see a sign that someone equates capacity with profitability, sustainability, and/or the absence of opportunity cost... ...which is rather presumptuous when dealing with a carrier/market that's tried-then-pulled-out of Florida three times over the la...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13377

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

I am still waiting for some sort of empirical substance about the decline of MIA's EU carriers. There are over 20 EU flags touching down in MIA, second only to NYC. KEF service may be out the door (or not, to be determined), yet two new carriers are coming to town this year. In the last decade, MIA'...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue is having an internal crisis
Replies: 52
Views: 15172

Re: Jetblue is having an internal crisis

It’s almost like the small carriers have taken on the labor problems of the legacies from a few years ago. Long story short, that's capitalism. Schumpeter's "creative destruction".Pressure from above (from the legacies, liberating from their problems through bankruptcy and consolidation) ...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11405

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

WN MCO-ABQ JUL 1.0>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.1 Sure didn't take WN very long to tuck tail and run after Frontier announced the route. This route has long surprised me - it seems pretty darn thin. Even more shocking was ABQ-TPA, which WN flew daily for several years. ABQ is a fantastic city, but it isn't exactl...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11405

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

WN ATL-BOS SEP 3>2 I know SEP is low season, but 2x is not competitive with DL's shuttle-like operation and B6's 5x. I wonder if this will stick around for much longer... A little brow-furrowing to see the number of weekday September flights for some Boston markets: 2x Atlanta 1x Columbus 1x Housto...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11405

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

enilria wrote:
enilria wrote:
*3M HSV-MCO JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0 SEP 0>1.0 OCT 0>1.0

I thought this was kinda interesting.


Yup, the first of their ATR routes.

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by axiom
Sun Feb 18, 2018 12:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 Air France unions plans strike
Replies: 59
Views: 5838

Re: 10 Air France unions plans strike

You don't seem to know how unions work : for starters they do not belong to the airline but often to nationwide structures with sectorial federations. In France, unions are independent entities & workers are free to unite where they see fit, even launch their own union if need be. That's not ho...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13377

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

This guy is a troll, people.

Making wild suppositions and then rudely telling your skeptics to foot proof of the blatently obvious - that MIA is a major transatlantic market - is too rich.

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

Yes it's inaccurate but it is an easy mistake to make in confusing the UK with the British Isles. Lots of people do the same with England and UK even though they are different. It's only "easy" for people who are so privileged as to not need to know the basics of the Anglo world (let alon...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

For something worthy of "mostly correction and comment, but no more," that sure was a long and winding post which managed to connect a remarkable number of unrelated observations about the world. Guilty as charged.... :D Shaky wanders off towards the sunset, humming "Ramblin' man&quo...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

It's still part of the British Isles and believe that is what the poster is thinking when saying UK. It is also still highly inaccurate. This oversight and its defense discredits anyone who seeks to speak about "UK" market dynamics with any sort of integrity. It's worthy of correction &am...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

It's still part of the British Isles and believe that is what the poster is thinking when saying UK. It is also still highly inaccurate. This oversight and its defense discredits anyone who seeks to speak about "UK" market dynamics with any sort of integrity. Yes it's inaccurate but it is...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

Erm, last time I checked DUB wasn’t in the UK..... It's still part of the British Isles and believe that is what the poster is thinking when saying UK. It is also still highly inaccurate. This oversight and its defense discredits anyone who seeks to speak about "UK" market dynamics with a...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

It’s interesting that this is the second post this week speculating poor performance on a UK-MIA route. The other being the recently launched EI DUB-MIA not doing well. You might want to look at a map. In addition to the aforementioned issue with the 787 problem and reduced booking window, a few ad...

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by axiom
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9657

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

It’s interesting that this is the second post this week speculating poor performance on a UK-MIA route. The other being the recently launched EI DUB-MIA not doing well. You might want to look at a map. In addition to the aforementioned issue with the 787 problem and reduced booking window, a few ad...

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by axiom
Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US
Replies: 100
Views: 9588

Re: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US

Bobloblaw wrote:
TPA is beyond the range of the 321LR. Maybe if it frees up a A330


Are you sure about that? Should be close to the edge of the 321LR's range, but only just.

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by axiom
Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can we see a return of the Hub and Spoke model?
Replies: 57
Views: 7126

Re: Can we see a return of the Hub and Spoke model?

Crazy thread. Hub and spoke is used by almost every airline in the USA passenger and cargo. This thread is the epitome of A.net in 2018 (Of the world of alternative facts?). One absurd proposition after another. You guys should realize that there is a fair share of people in a.net who are not from ...

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by axiom
Wed Feb 07, 2018 2:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Can we see a return of the Hub and Spoke model?
Replies: 57
Views: 7126

Re: Can we see a return of the Hub and Spoke model?

32andBelow wrote:
Crazy thread. Hub and spoke is used by almost every airline in the USA passenger and cargo.


This thread is the epitome of A.net in 2018 (Of the world of alternative facts?). One absurd proposition after another.

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by axiom
Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

Wowlook, how can you be upset when your comparison is critiqued? You are comparing. That is what comparison is. If that isn't comparison, what is?

It's absurd, because it's distracting is from the topic, which is actually interesting.

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by axiom
Tue Feb 06, 2018 7:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

SLC is also definitely NOT shrinking (Seriously, have you look at the size of typical Mormon family? And SLC certainly has a fair amount of them). Is this your evidence? Great, here's mine; Salt Lake City had a lower population at the 2010 census than it did in the 1960 census. Jacksonville grew 40...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

RSW has long had a transatlantic flight. True but BA or VS, LH, AF or KL? RSW's VFR traffic leans more Mexico / Puerto Rico, so not sure I see what PTY brings. PBI is also pretty Anglo, but obviously wealthy - and there's a lot of Central American VFR demand to tap from inland agriculture. Not sure...

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by axiom
Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

Right now, JAX should be trying to get either CM or AV to fly E190 over-there from its hubs or a flight to CUN/PUJ/MBJ rather than going after getting a transatlantic flight. To get an European flight, JAX need way more exposure in Europe to draw traffic and sadly it doesn't have it - yet. In Flori...

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by axiom
Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/4/2018: Primera Drops BOS-BHX, Adds IAD-STN
Replies: 53
Views: 8084

Re: OAG Changes 2/4/2018: Primera Drops BOS-BHX, Adds IAD-STN

DL ATL-MCO OCT 16>17 Crazy number of flights. Anyone have an idea of what the most ever has been? Solely on DL? This is par for the course these days. I haven't seen the average (ie over a month-long horizon) daily flight count creep higher than this, however. Historically, DL favored capacity over...

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by axiom
Sat Feb 03, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to CPT, both LHR and LGW?
Replies: 26
Views: 5134

Re: BA to CPT, both LHR and LGW?

It's not low yield VFR. London Gatwick serves wealthy South of England local traffic. There's no need to use LHR capacity for routes with exceptional local demand.

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by axiom
Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hypothetical: United builds a hub at BNA
Replies: 65
Views: 6743

Re: Hypothetical: United builds a hub at BNA

IAD is their SE hub. That's as good as it gets, limits and all.

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by axiom
Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

While I am skeptical that JAX will get transatlantic service, I am even more skeptical of the point that JAX needs to hold down west coast service before it gets the former. RSW, anyone? Traffic patterns between places need not be asymmetrical. It's all about what's driving demand on either end. In ...

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by axiom
Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

JAX will probably see Europe services and the comparable market is TPA. Huh? The Tampa Bay market is more than three times larger, has a significantly larger tourist economy, serves four times as many non-stop destinations as JAX, has maintained transatlantic service for three decades, and has four...

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by axiom
Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?
Replies: 148
Views: 10831

Re: Will Jacksonville Ever see TransAtlantic Flights?

JAX is a large airline travel market. Never been there so I can’t offer the “color commentary” except to say the amount of Delta widebody traffic there through the years impressed me. As does Florida’s rapid growth. JAX will probably see Europe services and the comparable market is TPA. Huh? The Ta...

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by axiom
Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 1/28/2018:AS Drops DAL-SFO?; DL Adds SLC-PIT; F9 Drops MCO-CUN; UA Drops IAH-BDL, LAX-TUS
Replies: 117
Views: 14844

Re: OAG Changes 1/28/2018:AS Drops DAL-SFO?; DL Adds SLC-PIT; F9 Drops MCO-CUN; UA Drops IAH-BDL, LAX-TUS

May to Oct is also off peak for Boston-South Florida and there's not a focus city in FLL for DL to feed with BOS flights. Oct is definitely off peak for Florida, but don't underestimate how big DL is at FL point of sale. They have long been the dominant legacy carrier at MCO/FLL/TPA, although the U...

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by axiom
Mon Jan 29, 2018 1:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 1/28/2018:AS Drops DAL-SFO?; DL Adds SLC-PIT; F9 Drops MCO-CUN; UA Drops IAH-BDL, LAX-TUS
Replies: 117
Views: 14844

Re: OAG Changes 1/28/2018:AS Drops DAL-SFO?; DL Adds SLC-PIT; F9 Drops MCO-CUN; UA Drops IAH-BDL, LAX-TUS

We've had posts on here recently that indicated B6 was creaming DL in both fares and loads from BOS-Florida. Hard to verify of course but this indicates the posts were probably spot-on. The BOS-PBI flight was axed in favor of BOS-SEA and BOS-FLL was upgauged. May to Oct is also off peak for Boston-...

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by axiom
Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 1/28/2018:AS Drops DAL-SFO?; DL Adds SLC-PIT; F9 Drops MCO-CUN; UA Drops IAH-BDL, LAX-TUS
Replies: 117
Views: 14844

Re: OAG Changes 1/28/2018:AS Drops DAL-SFO?; DL Adds SLC-PIT; F9 Drops MCO-CUN; UA Drops IAH-BDL, LAX-TUS

B6 must be happy *DL BOS-FLL MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2.0>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 *DL BOS-PBI MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0.1 JUL 1.0>0.1 AUG 1.0>0.1 SEP 0.9>0.2 OCT 1.0>0.1 We've had posts on here recently that indicated B6 was creaming DL in both fares and loads from BOS-Florida. Hard to verify of course ...

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by axiom
Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airlines in need of a new or revised livery
Replies: 99
Views: 6704

Re: Airlines in need of a new or revised livery

From a graphic design perspective, I think KE and SQ are iconic and timeless. Wouldn't touch them.

I like WS, but it's feeling very 90s. UA has a complete stinker. (Love the comment that "Continental" has been misspelled...) I'd change these two, but that's probably it.

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by axiom
Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL and AA resume IROP ticketing and baggage agreement
Replies: 67
Views: 8733

Re: DL and AA resume IROP ticketing and baggage agreement

BS. There are no internal numbers because there is no agreement, duh. Nice attempt at completely making crap up. You're the one who is incorrect. The poster was referring to the numbers before DL terminated the interline agreement. No he wasn't. "Umm...hate to tell you that internal numbers st...

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by axiom
Wed Jan 24, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL and AA resume IROP ticketing and baggage agreement
Replies: 67
Views: 8733

Re: DL and AA resume IROP ticketing and baggage agreement

Umm...hate to tell you that internal numbers still show AA sends more passengers to DL than other way around. And for what it's worth, DL decided against doing a similar cut-off with AS after the cessation of all marketing agreements, strictly because AS ops were reliable enough in SEA and other ou...

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by axiom
Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't US have more holiday leisure airlines?
Replies: 248
Views: 17364

Re: Why doesn't US have more holiday leisure airlines?

3. The US is a continent. You don't have to leave the country to get to a sun spot. 4. US citizens are more culturally insular relative to others in the global north; getting shuttled down to foreign language beach destination isn't required or even desirable for many. 3. The US is not a continent....

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by axiom
Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New Icelandair livery coming
Replies: 119
Views: 17585

Re: New Icelandair livery coming

With all due respect, KL, you clearly don't have an eye for graphic design ;-)

Looks like a pretty subtle change to the tail branding. Maybe a loss of the color on the belly.

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by axiom
Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norway is to make all short-haul planes electric by 2040
Replies: 252
Views: 14915

Re: Norway is to make all short-haul planes electric by 2040

Don't worry about the oil. It will be burned to generate the electricity used to charge the clean batteries. Not in Norway: https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5620f59e1200002e007e546a.jpeg?ops=scalefit_720_noupscale If Norway want to contribute to reducing global emissions, they should stop oil e...

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