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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 10:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

You're assuming Delta wants to expand capacity on DTW-LHR. Delta, on the other hand, thinks DTW-AMS (connecting its hub to a partner hub with enormous feed throughout Europe) is a better choice. Past records of service show that DTW-AMS is consistently a bigger route for Delta, so they can't be fau...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Just a thought but if Delta wanted to get better loads on it's flights and expand it's DTW-LHR capacity would they have not been better off putting the A350 on DTW-LHR rather than DTW-AMS You're assuming Delta wants to expand capacity on DTW-LHR. Delta, on the other hand, thinks DTW-AMS (connecting...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Just a thought but if Delta wanted to get better loads on it's flights and expand it's DTW-LHR capacity would they have not been better off putting the A350 on DTW-LHR rather than DTW-AMS You're assuming Delta wants to expand capacity on DTW-LHR. Delta, on the other hand, thinks DTW-AMS (connecting...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 5:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Iran Air is gonna resurrect its 747SP ?
Replies: 11
Views: 2726

Re: Iran Air is gonna resurrect its 747SP ?

The only one might be even remotely an option is EP-IAC. http://www.747sp.com/747sp-production-list/21093-307/ So... as the website info shows the IAC does have chance to be resurrected and keep flying for a while ? I think no way. I think Airbus will find a way to funnel them a few more A330s. Tha...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 5:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

And this thread has officially been ruined by the exact same poster that ruins any other DL thread. Agreed. It is quite annoying. I don't understand how a thread can be ruined by a poster. If you disagree, all the better marshaling of argumentation, facts, claims, and counterclaims. We will see wha...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

... I am sort of amazed that people think the US-India market is so homogenous of just low price VFR... I admire your continued effort to educate a.net. You should realize a.net cannot comprehend the fact that a non-alcoholic, vegetarian Indian granny with limited spoken English can afford business...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF-KLM, Delta, Virgin Atlantic sign Trans-Atlantic Partnership
Replies: 20
Views: 4400

Re: AF-KLM, Delta, Virgin Atlantic sign Trans-Atlantic Partnership

Let's see what goodies this brings. Perhaps maybe one of the reasons Delta pulled out of MAN

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 1:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

WOW Air has an introductory fare of $199 BOS-DEL ($398 r/t). :shock: But, to be fair, WOW is subsidized by...(wait thinking of something, uhhhhh...) Icelandic North Sea oil money!!!! How about that? That sounds good. Yikes! :eek: Their fare didn't even show up, as I only looked 3days out. But yeah,...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

You can fill a plane from so many U.S. cities to India with ease - Atlanta, Miami, Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia and on and on. That doesn't mean a flight is happening. Yields suck and distance is too long. I don't think we'll see Delta re-enter India. I agree 100% India is pretty much like the...

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

questions wrote:
klm617 wrote:
Yes but at least AA has a better partner in Japan Airlines than Delta does in Korean.


Based on what? Why is AA/JL better than DL/KE?



Having a hub carrier based in HND and NRT is more valuable than a hub carrier based in Seoul

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by klm617
Wed May 16, 2018 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

DL DTW-India is 100% not happening. Like others have said, the fares on most US-India markets are very low. Here'e s tell-tale example: Fares are cheaper to India that most of Europe. DL DTW-AMS roundtrip 6/4-6/11, roundtrip in Y $1,547 DL DTW-AMS-BOM, BOM-CDG-DTW; roundtrip in Y $2,200 Same dates ...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

Put me in the camp that thinks this is just a PR exercise, since on paper nothing has changed regarding the viability of US-Middle East/South Asia flights. But any expansion will still be good to see. Let's face it Delta is really not as successful as people think in Asia they are a distant 3rd as ...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

Put me in the camp that thinks this is just a PR exercise, since on paper nothing has changed regarding the viability of US-Middle East/South Asia flights. But any expansion will still be good to see. Let's face it Delta is really not as successful as people think in Asia they are a distant 3rd as ...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 10:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

Is there still significant US military traffic in the Gulf+ Afghanistan? A decade ago when DL had ATL-DXB US military ops were at a peak. Just wondering if there is still a genuine business case for a route like that. Dubai is a regional business hub and draws a lot of corporate traffic. How many F...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

The tie-up with 9W (and KL-AF), together with this comment by the CEO makes me believe that we might see a BOM-JFK or DEL-JFK flight soon, either operated by DL itself with a 77L, or by 9W with a 77W. When is 9W supposed to start receiving the 789s? 2020? I recall that the order was first upgraded ...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 7:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

I find it interesting that DL can make East Asia work (China, Japan, S. Korea, Singapore, Philippines) but not South Asia (India). I heard that East Asia yields are higher than South Asia too. Is that true!? Let's face it Delta is really not as successful as people think in Asia they are a distant ...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

flymco753 wrote:
Thoughts on Volaris, Interjet or Viva Aerobus starting MEX or GDL?


For this to happen I think the WCAA has to show some initiative as I believe they are keeping this opportunity open for Delta.

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

flymco753 wrote:
klm617 wrote:
WOW Air is moving their arrival and departure times for the winter. The flight will arrive at 4:45 pm and leave at 5:55 pm and operate at 4 weekly.
Appears CLE and CVG will be seasonal.


Interesting actually and STL goes from 4 to 3 weekly so it appears Detroit is holding it's own.

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Just a thought but if Delta wanted to get better loads on it's flights and expand it's DTW-LHR capacity would they have not been better off putting the A350 on DTW-LHR rather than DTW-AMS

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

The tie-up with 9W (and KL-AF), together with this comment by the CEO makes me believe that we might see a BOM-JFK or DEL-JFK flight soon, either operated by DL itself with a 77L, or by 9W with a 77W. When is 9W supposed to start receiving the 789s? 2020? I recall that the order was first upgraded ...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

WOW Air is moving their arrival and departure times for the winter. The flight will arrive at 4:45 pm and leave at 5:55 pm and operate at 4 weekly.

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 3:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

I'm the same way as you, I travel light and I eat whatever I can find, but we're two small fish in a very large ocean. I'd happily fly WOW, even if it means 2-stop for me (I fly to MAA) if it'll save me a couple hundred bucks. For the majority of people, that couple hundred isn't going to keep them...

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by klm617
Tue May 15, 2018 3:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 194
Views: 21882

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

Let's see if Detroit gets some love or will it be snubbed yet again. Detroit India would be a good market for them. A350 is the perfect plane for Detroit India and the only Delta market left with no competition from the ME3 yet.

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by klm617
Mon May 14, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

So it looks like WOW has added a schedule for Delhi; 3x weekly at first then increasing to 5x a week from Jan 2019. I really think adding BOM flights will also be good. If only the bilateral didn't restrict them to 2 cities, maybe they could do 5x DEL, 5x BOM, 4x BLR or summat. https://www.routeson...

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by klm617
Mon May 14, 2018 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA
Replies: 55
Views: 6851

Re: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA

I’d be shocked if Delta adds another A350-900 TATL flight. The sole A350-900 DTW-AMS exists to achieve better utilisation on the aircraft flying DTW-NRT/PEK, so they don’t have to sit on the ground for 18+ hours. I totally agree the A350 was purchased for long haul to Asia from the eastern part of ...

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by klm617
Mon May 14, 2018 10:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

I'd be curious to your definition of 'monopoly', because your statement that there have been 'plenty of over priced one stop links' and yet that the 'monopoly is about to be broken' makes no sense. Do you know what a monopoly is? There are at the very least four different carriers who can provide w...

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by klm617
Mon May 14, 2018 1:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA
Replies: 55
Views: 6851

Re: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA

Bet you they put the 359 on DTW-FRA in the summer when LH deploys the 744. Yeah no, waste of aircraft. Only reason they fly one A350-900 on DTW-AMS is positioning between DTW-NRT and DTW-PEK as a DTW-NRT-DTW-AMS-DTW-PEK-DTW rotation requires four aircraft. Similar to NW's previous use of 747s on DT...

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by klm617
Mon May 14, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA
Replies: 55
Views: 6851

Re: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA

lavalampluva wrote:
Looks like DL doesn’t hate DTW. :lol:



LOL it's for 5 days in January. They just downgraded the flight from a 332 to 763 over the past winter.

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by klm617
Mon May 14, 2018 1:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Actually DTW-SRQ is a hold over from the North Central days. DTW was SRQ's first new route after deregulation. You can see the 1st NC flight into SRQ here in the 2nd SRQ link. http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1393893 Yours truly was there on that day About 12-13 years ago, the...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 11:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

SRQ has always had the demand for at least 1 daily with the JUN-AUG period possibly cut, but even then it doesn't have to be. NW ran twice daily the entire time, as did Republic before them. DL just choose to force SRQ pax over ATL as KLM has stated over and over again. Its not some sleepy retireme...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR729 B77W DOH-DFW double divert 13 May 2018
Replies: 8
Views: 3442

Re: QR729 B77W DOH-DFW double divert 13 May 2018

Today May 13, 2018 QR729 DOH-DFW operated by B77W A7-BEJ made intermediate stops at IEV and AMS. - 13 May 2018 DOH - DFW QR729 - dep. 08:41 15:50 Diverted to KBP - 13 May 2018 KBP - AMS QR729 - dep. 19:44 21.06 Diverted to AMS - 13 May 2018 AMS - DFW QR729 - dep. ?? Anyone for the reasons; medical ...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA
Replies: 55
Views: 6851

Re: Delta A350 New Routes: ATL-NRT, DTW-FRA

According to routesonline.com, Delta Air Lines will add 2 new routes for their Airbus A350 aircraft. From 12JAN19 through 17JAN19, an A350 will operate the Detroit to Frankfurt route, while the Atlanta to Tokyo Narita route will go from a 777 to an A350 starting 31MAR19. This also means that a 777 ...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 3:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 758
Views: 47631

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Spirit is dropping the seasonal PDX, not surprised. However I expect NK to allocate that aircraft somewhere else whether it’s a new route or additional frequency on current routes. My suggestion, shift that off daily A319 that will fly both DFW and MYR to MYR, replace the 2nd daily DFW with the A32...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 2:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/13/2018:UA Swaps EWR/IAD Markets, Many Other Changes!;DL Adds BOS-PHL,Drops JFK-PHL,MCO-MIA;
Replies: 98
Views: 13842

Re: OAG Changes 5/13/2018:UA Swaps EWR/IAD Markets, Many Other Changes!;DL Adds BOS-PHL,Drops JFK-PHL,MCO-MIA;

PHL on DL/AF/KL can now go thru BOS for many TATL connections. PHL-JFK looks good on paper but ontime performance/reliability on those routes are another thing I think you're being very charitable. Looking at the DL route maps I count 6 TATL destinations (including partners) from BOS and 24 from JF...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/13/2018:UA Swaps EWR/IAD Markets, Many Other Changes!;DL Adds BOS-PHL,Drops JFK-PHL,MCO-MIA;
Replies: 98
Views: 13842

Re: OAG Changes 5/13/2018:UA Swaps EWR/IAD Markets, Many Other Changes!;DL Adds BOS-PHL,Drops JFK-PHL,MCO-MIA;

I’m not surprised NK dropped DTW-PDX. This route is like the two kids in high school that date on and off and everyone knows about it because they spread the rumors like “did you hear PDX and DTW broke up again?” Drama route for all airlines! This resource needs to be allocated to an existing DTW r...

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by klm617
Sun May 13, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 5/13/2018:UA Swaps EWR/IAD Markets, Many Other Changes!;DL Adds BOS-PHL,Drops JFK-PHL,MCO-MIA;
Replies: 98
Views: 13842

Re: OAG Changes 5/13/2018:UA Swaps EWR/IAD Markets, Many Other Changes!;DL Adds BOS-PHL,Drops JFK-PHL,MCO-MIA;

Thanks as always enilria for making my Sunday morning. Any thought on DL dropping JFK-PHL? Could that be a misfile? Obviously DL doesn't have much PHL-originating transatlantic traffic, but back tracking to DTW sounds inconvenient and thus that they are ceding the market. Delta has a habit of manip...

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by klm617
Sat May 12, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S., UAE strike deal resolving contentious airline spat
Replies: 44
Views: 7096

Re: U.S., Emirates strike deal resolving contentious airline spat

Good now EK can at least get on with it's business of expanding into North America as it's growth was so rudely interrupted by the cry baby US3.

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by klm617
Sat May 12, 2018 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees
Replies: 63
Views: 10296

Re: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees

KingB123 wrote:
This airline really needs to shut down now with all the crap its done.


There are a lot more corrupt airlines than PIA it's just their actions are never brought to light.

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by klm617
Sat May 12, 2018 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees
Replies: 63
Views: 10296

Re: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees

Silly Pakistanis... they should have known they should first spend four years of their lives and $200,000 they don't have and need to borrow in order to play beer pong for four years before they can go and learn something actually useful for their careers in graduate school (for even more money, of...

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by klm617
Sat May 12, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees
Replies: 63
Views: 10296

Re: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees

32andBelow wrote:
You shouldn’t need a degree to fly an airplane. It’s a skill not rocket surgery.



There are a lot of jobs in this world that really don't require a degree but to the perspective employer it is a requirement and if you don't have one you a disqualifies it doesn't make it OK to forge documents.

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 9:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

Sure there has always been plenty of over priced one stop links between DTW and India and that monopoly is about to be broken. I'd be curious to your definition of 'monopoly', because your statement that there have been 'plenty of over priced one stop links' and yet that the 'monopoly is about to b...

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

... That is not going to happen unless the current bilateral between India and Iceland is changed. It only allows for Icelandic carriers to fly 7 flights to one airport in India and 7 flights to another. I don't see any reason why India would want to change this. That is history, it already changed...

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 6:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees
Replies: 63
Views: 10296

Re: 24 pilots and 67 crew members at PK found to hold fake degrees

Just to clarify, by "degrees" - what do they mean? Their flight school training? If that's the case, it is truly shocking. That's what I was wondering, too. If they claimed to have a degree in something unrelated to flying just to make their resume look better, but their flight school tra...

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 6:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

Theres tons of 1 stop options between DTW and TLV already. This isn't an unserved option. There are ZERO one stop options out of DTW at 2/3 of half the price that the legacies are charging. It's a common misconception on this forum that most people have $1500 to $2000 just laying around to shell ou...

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

No. $100 is nothing on a longhaul ticket. It would probably have to be close to 50% of the cost of a full service airline. If full-service is $1000, Wow would need to be near $500-600. Otherwise when you add ulcc charges like baggage, food, entertainment etc you are at close to full service prices ...

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi
Replies: 161
Views: 15425

Re: Wow Air to announce flights to Delhi

No. $100 is nothing on a longhaul ticket. It would probably have to be close to 50% of the cost of a full service airline. If full-service is $1000, Wow would need to be near $500-600. Otherwise when you add ulcc charges like baggage, food, entertainment etc you are at close to full service prices ...

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 2:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit Airlines Announcement?
Replies: 149
Views: 15669

Re: Spirit Airlines Announcement?

A joint marketing agreement with WOW Air. Yellow and purple planes how cool is that.

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by klm617
Fri May 11, 2018 1:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta To Resume CMH-SLC, Confirms CMH TATL Interest
Replies: 47
Views: 7217

Re: Delta To Resume CMH-SLC, Confirms CMH TATL Interest

Excluding the hub at DTW, none of the cities in the region have a flight to AMS. PIT, IND, and even CVG are CDG-only. That's where my bet rides. The article specifically says London and Paris. No mention of AMS. Right, but CRAA has also mentioned AMS in monthly board reports when Europe has been di...

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by klm617
Thu May 10, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA gate agent asks nursing mom "How many boobs do you have"
Replies: 73
Views: 9125

Re: AA gate agent asks nursing mom "How many boobs do you have"

Perhaps - do feel free to provide evidence that's contrary to the Airline Customer Satisfaction Survey's claim. Additionally, who would really be to blame for the bar being lowered if that is indeed the case? Passengers have been voting with their wallets in being willing to fly ULCCs like NK or F9...

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by klm617
Thu May 10, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA gate agent asks nursing mom "How many boobs do you have"
Replies: 73
Views: 9125

Re: AA gate agent asks nursing mom "How many boobs do you have"

While there are one-off incidents here and there that gain more media attention that they may have previously, it's worth noting that by many metrics Airline Customer Satisfaction is at all-time highs even as more passengers than ever are in the skies. Or perhaps the bar has been set so low that an...

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