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by klm617
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Starting in May Air Canada goes to 5 daily on DTW-YYZ. WS needs to take notice and use DTW for feed to the Eastern US as iot is a major Delta hub. AC sees the potential but yet WS don't with the Delta feed SMH.

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by klm617
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

The June schedule is nearing completion for DL, and I anticipate few changes after this point regarding equipment. There's going to be A LOT of A321s. BOS, LGA, BWI, DCA, TPA, RSW, FLL, ATL, PIT, GRR, LAS, LAX, PHX, SAN, & SLC will be the routes that have A321s on them. The 757s will have a hig...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

DL is almost making SRQ year round, still once weekly though. It'll stop at the end of August and pick back up in mid October. Presumably, this is DL saying "well, we can't hide the fact that if Allegiant is adding a bunch of places with significantly less O&D to SRQ, we might as well incr...

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by klm617
Sun Feb 17, 2019 9:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/17/2019:PDK Gets Service;G4;NK;SE Moves JFK to EWR;UA Adds DEN-GSP/PWM/SYR
Replies: 29
Views: 7787

Re: OAG Changes 2/17/2019:PDK Gets Service;G4;NK;SE Moves JFK to EWR;UA Adds DEN-GSP/PWM/SYR

DL hasnt reported, but the SRQ-DTW route only takes a hiatus from the end of August until mid October before picking back up. Still once weekly and goes daily for a few weeks in December. DTW-SRQ shouldn't even be less than daily year round. Good to see the AC add at Detroit perhaps WS can take a p...

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by klm617
Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Serbia Announces Major Expansion
Replies: 31
Views: 9378

Re: Air Serbia Announces Major Expansion

JFK, YYZ, LAX, MIA, ORD IIRC. The first three I know for sure, the last two are from memory. I am sure they would too. But at at one time JAT served CLE,DTW,JFK,ORD,YYZ and YMX The good old days in the 80s! ORD-JFK-BEG and ORD-CLE-LJU before ORD and JFK were it, then sanctions stoped the US and eve...

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by klm617
Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish Airlines USA expansion
Replies: 3
Views: 873

Re: Turkish Airlines USA expansion

Detroit should be the very next destination. A few years ago it was called out as one of the cities that was under consideration but under the current political environment I don't think we will see TK add anymore US cities at least for the next 2 years.

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by klm617
Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Serbia Announces Major Expansion
Replies: 31
Views: 9378

Re: Air Serbia Announces Major Expansion

Would be great to see them back in Detroit. For about 5 years JAT served DTW in the 1980's flying from DTW to BEG, LJU and ZAG I think Chicago or Toronto would come first, especially since ORD is the second busiest market in North America from BEG, right after JFK. From what I remember the list goe...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Great Dane Airlines - New Danish airline
Replies: 28
Views: 3675

Re: Great Dane Airlines - New Danish airline

SASViking wrote:
I bet their call sign would be either "Woff woff" or "good boy" :rotfl:


Call sign: Canine
IATA: K9
ICAO: DOG

Seems plausible and a great marketing gimmick.

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by klm617
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Serbia Announces Major Expansion
Replies: 31
Views: 9378

Re: Air Serbia Announces Major Expansion

Would be great to see them back in Detroit. For about 5 years JAT served DTW in the 1980's flying from DTW to BEG, LJU and ZAG

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by klm617
Fri Feb 15, 2019 7:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The Rest of Michigan Thread - 2019
Replies: 32
Views: 2745

Re: The Rest of Michigan Thread - 2019

http://www.prunderground.com/elite-airw ... /00147721/


Love it great add for TVC and a great add for Michigan and DTW still has no year round SRQ flights.
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727LOVER wrote:
Elite Airways is starting TVC-SRQ weekly, starting March 16

http://www.prunderground.com/elite-airw ... /00147721/


Love it great add for TVC and a great add for Michigan and DTW still has no year round SRQ flights.

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

You can't quote data on something that hasn't happened yet you need to go by the full year 2018 states. One month into 2019 means nothing. Then by all means, have a look at full year 2018 data, again straight from OAG: Delta Flights DTW: 287,260 MSP: 272,530 Delta Seats DTW: 32.1M MSP: 31.7M Delta ...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

As far as passenger enplanements MSP is larger than Detroit. Destination wise MSP is bigger than Detroit again, seat capacity wise MSP is bigger than Detroit Show your data or keep quiet. 2019 Delta Seats per the Current Schedule DTW: 16,344,995 MSP: 16,232,773 This is not subjective. You can show ...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

So what you are saying then is Delta itself spreads false information when it suits their objective. Something I have also said which I get flamed for so which is it. Do we believe the numbers or do we believe what Delta and their media people tell us. Proof that the truth is always subjective and ...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Enough of your misinformation - let's stick to facts please: Full Year 2019 Delta Schedule Largest Delta hubs by Seats 1. ATL 8.21M 2. DTW 2.72M 3. MSP 2.67M Largest Delta hubs by Flights 1. ATL 58,102 2. DTW 24,530 3. MSP 22,972 Largest Delta hubs by ASMs 1. ATL 7.8B 2. JFK 3.1B 3. DTW 3.0B Please...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

What's funny is DL didn't even react to NK and F9 being on AUS. This May, DL will fly 2x A319 and 1x 717, same as last year. The only difference is that the ticket prices have dropped, but not enough to even intrigue a budget flyer. F9 and NK will coexist on this route I believe. DL immediately upg...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

What's funny is DL didn't even react to NK and F9 being on AUS. This May, DL will fly 2x A319 and 1x 717, same as last year. The only difference is that the ticket prices have dropped, but not enough to even intrigue a budget flyer. F9 and NK will coexist on this route I believe. DL immediately upg...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 675
Views: 76434

Re: [Rumor] Airbus to announce end of A380 production

Of course, the 747 lasted 50 years while the A380 will be lucky to last 15. Emergency AD issued to all A380 operators today. Ground all aircraft within 12 months of this notice - after extensive inspection and research, user 777PHX has determined that the aircraft will not be safe to fly after spri...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021
Replies: 675
Views: 76434

Re: Official: Airbus announces A380 production to end in 2021

Let's be honest though this plane was more about building a bigger Airbus than the Boeing 747 and very little to do about the potential market for this plane. Boeing had the advantage back in the 70's or selling oversize planes to people who didn't need them that Airbus didn't have in the profit sen...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

lavalampluva wrote:
Why does it seem that there is this constantly ongoing p*ssing contest between DTW & MSP!!? :banghead:


I don't see it as a pissing contest at all.

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

It’s not off. The numbers you’re thinking of are for the peak summer season, the numbers above are updated by DL monthly... and given January/February are about the slowest months of the year, you’re comparing opposites. MSP has larger gauge, so physical seating differental is much smaller. MSP als...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:59 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: DL 14FEB19 profit sharing up to 10X more than other U.S. carriers!
Replies: 31
Views: 3886

Re: DL 14FEB19 profit sharing up to 10X more than other U.S. carriers!

My family member who works for DL said the payout is 14% of their base salary. It says as much in the graphic above. To answer sagechan's question, I had friends at Delta telling me earlier this year that they'd been told 14% in January, but it sounded like it wasn't known for sure until 2018 close...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

If NK does go to ANC, it will be to SEA or PDX or OAK, places that have decent O&D to ANC that can probably be fare stimulated. It would probably be through OAK and/or SEA. NK doesnt like PDX at all. But I highly doubt that NK will ever be in Alaska... SEA-ANC is already pretty crowded plus NK ...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Delta's News Hub provided fact sheets for each hub. I found it very interesting: Dom Int'l Total Peak Day Dest Dest Dest Flights ATL 145 60 205 940 DTW 103 18 121 460 MSP 106 18 124 369 ATL is no surprise, but I was surprised at the difference in peak day flights between DTW and MSP. I always thoug...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta/Compass E175 makes emergency landing due to severe turbulence
Replies: 21
Views: 4418

Re: Delta/Compass E175 makes emergency landing due to severe turbulence

How does a plane going from SNA to SEA wind up near RNO ?

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by klm617
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU clears AF/KL/DL/Virgin Group deal
Replies: 51
Views: 8263

Re: EU clears air-france-klm-delta-virgin-group-deal

plus VS has brand recognition in Manchester and with the Detroit feed would work much better than an AA flight out of ORD. You're implying there, I think, that DL has a broader network out of DTW compared to AA at ORD, which isn't true. AA has a much larger presence at ORD when compared to DL at DT...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EL AL...MCO official announcement
Replies: 79
Views: 8106

Re: EL AL...MCO official announcement

WHY NOT ORD YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe with the B788. I suspect that one-stop ORD-TLV has a stronger market in Lufthansa and United. I would also not be surprised to learn that: aside from the NYC metro area, most of El Al's point of sale is Israeli. For TLV-MCO, that is certainl...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EL AL...MCO official announcement
Replies: 79
Views: 8106

Re: EL AL...MCO official announcement

Maybe with the B788. I suspect that one-stop ORD-TLV has a stronger market in Lufthansa and United. I would also not be surprised to learn that: aside from the NYC metro area, most of El Al's point of sale is Israeli. For TLV-MCO, that is certainly the case, possibly at the cost of CDG. LY is likel...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EL AL...MCO official announcement
Replies: 79
Views: 8106

Re: EL AL...MCO official announcement

No ORD? AGAIN? Come on LY. If they thought they could make money flying out of Chicago they would be there but obviously there isn't enough premium traffic to justify tying up assets when money can be made elsewhere. Not everything works out of Chicago and there are endless options that one can use...

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by klm617
Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU clears AF/KL/DL/Virgin Group deal
Replies: 51
Views: 8263

Re: EU clears air-france-klm-delta-virgin-group-deal

AA/BA couldn't even make ORD-MAN work. You keep putting your faith in losers against objective fact and reason and thus frequently face disappointment. AA couldn't make ORD-PVG/PEK work but yet her were are with DTW-PEK/PVG thriving. AA ended ORD-PVG/PEK because there was way too much competition (...

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by klm617
Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU clears AF/KL/DL/Virgin Group deal
Replies: 51
Views: 8263

Re: EU clears air-france-klm-delta-virgin-group-deal

Good now maybe VS will start DTW-MAN or bring back DTW-LHR AA/BA couldn't even make ORD-MAN work. You keep putting your faith in losers against objective fact and reason and thus frequently face disappointment. AA couldn't make ORD-PVG/PEK work but yet her were are with DTW-PEK/PVG thriving. Many a...

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by klm617
Tue Feb 12, 2019 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: EU clears AF/KL/DL/Virgin Group deal
Replies: 51
Views: 8263

Re: EU clears air-france-klm-delta-virgin-group-deal

Good now maybe VS will start DTW-MAN or bring back DTW-LHR

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by klm617
Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future U.S. Expansion Possibilities For Aer Lingus
Replies: 156
Views: 20142

Re: Future U.S. Expansion Possibilities For Aer Lingus

So does anyone have any inside information where EI is going next in North America ?

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by klm617
Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:35 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Large airports without rail links
Replies: 98
Views: 6331

Re: Large airports without rail links

The people of Detroit continuously vote NO on light rail to and from DTW as well as the region itself. Apparently, the reason is because the project would require an increase in taxpayer money, something in which over 50% of the population in that area either wont use/benefit from, or fund from the...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:36 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Big Bang actress rants about United
Replies: 62
Views: 15343

Re: Big Bang actress rants about United

This kind of things happens all day everyday with people who don't quite make their tight connection. I agree it was most likely the gate agent who closed the door. The only reason this is getting any attention is because of her relative "fame." It's rarely ever worth it to hold an entire...

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no TATL from PMI?
Replies: 45
Views: 5719

Re: Why no TATL from PMI?

Because its nothing worth flying thousands of miles for? It's a nice place for Europeans to get a tan but not worth a TATL for... It’s a million times nicer than Hawaii but let’s keep the ignorami ignorant .... works out better in the end for everyone AGREED! I love Hawaii for vacation - but I PMI ...

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 8:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no TATL from PMI?
Replies: 45
Views: 5719

Re: Why no TATL from PMI?

Didn't Iberia back in the 1970s fly PMI-JFK Nonstop.

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/10/2019:AA Exits JFK-MCO; DL Extends ATL-OAK
Replies: 59
Views: 11175

Re: OAG Changes 2/10/2019:AA Exits JFK-MCO; DL Extends ATL-OAK

Thank you for this as always! DL DLH-MSP JUL 5>6[5] AUG 5>6[5] SEP 5>7[5] OCT 5>7[5] I wonder if this has anything to do with AA starting DLH-ORD? Would have thought if they effectively wanted to compete against AA on DLH-ORD they should have added DTW-DLH instead of upping MSP-DLH which they alrea...

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Likely new LEVEL destinations
Replies: 56
Views: 15962

Re: Likely new LEVEL destinations

Would be great to see Level on DTW-BCN maybe 2 weekly summer seasonal.

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will DL return to HKG again?
Replies: 120
Views: 16869

Re: Will DL return to HKG again?

Perhaps Delta could do DTW-NGO-HKG

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Routes Americas - 2019
Replies: 25
Views: 2497

Re: Routes Americas - 2019

I find it pretty interesting that YQG is attending this conference.

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by klm617
Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate
Replies: 177
Views: 23117

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

Would it be outside of the realm of possibility that Delta would ask for two slots to operate into one market. Say two ATL-HND slots

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 10:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate
Replies: 177
Views: 23117

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

Cho would never allow it, it was already hard enough to get a JV. If Delta wanted to fly ICN-SIN it could, but more likely, I think, is a new SEA-SIN route. If I remember, 2020 is when the new international arrivals area opens at Sea-Tac. What happens to MNL is anyone’s guess. If you ask me, DL wou...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

drdisque wrote:
If NK does go to ANC, it will be to SEA or PDX or OAK, places that have decent O&D to ANC that can probably be fare stimulated.


Detroit already has a decent O/D to ANC with zero competition. It is one of the top O/D markets that is not served out of Detroit nonstop.

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Would be great to see NK give DTW-ANC a try. I think even Spirit knows that what would be 6+ hours aboard their aircraft would push the bounds of sanity. At nearly 3,000 miles, DTW-ANC would be NK's longest route by quite a margin (FLL-LIM is 2,627 miles). People go to Alaska for what is often high...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate
Replies: 177
Views: 23117

Re: US-Japan agree on additional Haneda slots; DOT to allocate

I think these are pretty much givens and with 12 pairs up for grabs no reason why these should not be granted.

HND-DTW
HND-ATL
HND-SEA
HND-PDX

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Routes Americas - 2019
Replies: 25
Views: 2497

Re: Routes Americas - 2019

Aer Lingus on Detroit Dublin.
Korean Air on Detroit-Seoul
Lufthansa on Detroit-Munich
DL/VS on Detroit Manchester

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019
Replies: 428
Views: 36027

Re: Detroit Air Service Discussion Thread - 2019

Would be great to see NK give DTW-ANC a try.

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:53 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What are the top 10 unserved markets from ATL?
Replies: 54
Views: 4999

Re: What are the top 10 unserved markets from ATL?

evank516 wrote:
Two new domestic markets that are coming online this year are ATL-BUR and ATL-ONT


3 you forgot HHH

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by klm617
Fri Feb 08, 2019 5:52 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: What are the top 10 unserved markets from ATL?
Replies: 54
Views: 4999

Re: What are the top 10 unserved markets from ATL?

Last I checked, internationally they were: BOM YVR (I think this one may be seasonal) SGN DEL PEK TLV HYD HKG YYC CPH BLR However, its important to note that the only real significant ones (larger than 40 PDEW) of the above are BOM and YVR. The rest are pretty small. Interesting how YYC is so low o...

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