What cities could we see Breeze at in Michigan ?
Jump to postHas there ever been a ULCC *long haul* that actually worked? The whole idea (extra fees for everything and not a cubic inch of extra space to save a buck or two) seems stupid for 10 hour flights across half the world where the “extras” aren’t really optional for the vast majority. Whenever I priced...
Jump to postA bit of some good news for Detroit finally a route that has been long overdue. Delta is adding DTW-ANC starting May 28th. Personally I am very excited to see this addition. I was hoping for a late summer family trip to Alaska, but my spouse insisted that any travel this summer only be on a nonstop...
Jump to postSQ22 wrote:Please remember to provide a link to your source when stating facts, thanks.
A bit of some good news for Detroit finally a route that has been long overdue. Delta is adding DTW-ANC starting May 28th.
Jump to postGood to see DTW-ANC being re-added it's long overdue
Jump to postDTW-KEF
DTW-MAN
DTW-DUB
DTW-VPS
DTW-SRQ year round
DTW-ANC
DTW-HNL
FNT-MCO
FNT-TPA
FNT-RSW
YQG-LGW
DET as and Allegiant market to serve Southeast Michigan
AA adding more service to TVC this summer, now adding CLT. https://upnorthlive.com/news/local/cherry-capital-american-airlines-add-non-stop-flight-to-charlotte This summer AA is going to have service from to TVC to ORD - year round, daily DFW - seasonal, daily PHL - seasonal, daily CLT - seasonal, ...
Jump to postI have seen people on this forum circumvent to rule about providing links to back up their opinions when what they are doing is not showing the who picture but just choosing the facts that support their own opinion some links even 4 to 5 years old. I understand and respect the reasoning behind needi...
Jump to postA 757/321 size aircraft that can fill every need. It could carry cargo, fly international routes plus have the economics and fexability to do domestic runs from ORD to NYC and from MIA to LAX
Jump to postYoe could make an offer for the bird and stop the crime ! If you are unable to do so I would still consider you as not criminal. Both of you could make an offer. Seriously, what are the transport costs likely to be, how much is needed? If we can find out that, perhaps we could get the required Euro...
Jump to postYou're making a jump from the business model in the 1920's to ULCC's of today. Airlines like Delta made absolutely handsome profits selling top notch products. This is going off-topic, but: (1) The USA is about a decade behind Europe in the growth of ULCCs. They are not yet anywhere near as ubiquit...
Jump to postThe airport also released following statement: “WOW Air added service to Detroit in April 2018 and our customers responded well," it said. "Reykjavik moved from Detroit’s 55th largest European destination to fifth, after just a few months of WOW service. Some months saw traffic between Det...
Jump to postHow is DTW underserved? They have a ~500 flight/day hub operation in non-COVID times, with multiple daily flights to both Europe and Asia, along with some international airlines serving the airport too. Not to mention a strong ULCC presence from NK too. I can name so many airports in the US that ar...
Jump to postHow is DTW underserved? They have a ~500 flight/day hub operation in non-COVID times, with multiple daily flights to both Europe and Asia, along with some international airlines serving the airport too. Not to mention a strong ULCC presence from NK too. I can name so many airports in the US that ar...
Jump to postI don't see why Detroit needs to be a priority for anyone especially when the economic downturn comes to a close. Opportunities for growth as we are seeing will remain in the Sun Belt, Mountain West, and Pacific Northwest. Plus, the winter can't bother you if you live in these cities which is somet...
Jump to post- The airport is typical of many airports in the US. They are monopolists and are not interested in economic development for the region unless they are able to earn money and collect royalties in doing so. Huh? Where did that come from? U.S. passenger airports (DTW included) are typically owned by ...
Jump to postI've been on these forums since I was in college 15 years ago, and stopped for a long while, partly because I lost interest. Now having moved back to the metro Detroit area after years in Germany, it's interesting to see all the speculation on these forums - some things simply haven't changed. PAX ...
Jump to postI would like to discuss why this is a failed plan "For all intents and purposes, the originally marketed aerotropolis concept is no where near being realized as it was foreseen, and land is simply being developed for logistics providers, that aren't necessarily air travel related. Most new deve...
Jump to postPhoto of Book Building in Detroit, 1972. (image source Detroit Historical Commission). How many old airline ticket stands can you find? If you look closely: PanAM, BOAC, Lufthansa, among others have a storefront in the photo. https://www.airliners.net/forum/download/file.php?mode=view&id=3631&a...
Jump to postThis kind of short-sighted thinking really angers me. Money is tight this year. But it’s going to recover. Just because budgets are down now, they are going to scrap the airplane, which can never be brought back. Exactly some bean counter came up with the idea to sell the plane for scrap and use th...
Jump to postI think just leave it as it is. What cost is there for just leaving it static until something can be done with it. At my airport they did the same thing with a Argosy they just scrapped such a rare aircraft that was intact without giving it a second thought. I think they want the funds for the scrap...
Jump to postHamburg Airport's museum aircraft, a Boeing 707, is going to become a victim of the current Covid-19 crisis. As the airport is looking to reduce costs, the maintenance of this historic aircraft will no longer be provided. Attempts to hand it over as a whole to a new owner failed. The aircraft will ...
Jump to postHamburg Airport's museum aircraft, a Boeing 707, is going to become a victim of the current Covid-19 crisis. As the airport is looking to reduce costs, the maintenance of this historic aircraft will no longer be provided. Attempts to hand it over as a whole to a new owner failed. The aircraft will ...
Jump to postIt's interesting they haven't moved to collapse JFK. I assume the rivalry with B6 is big time at play and a reluctance to admit that the VX purchase with the goal to stave off B6 in transcon has completely failed. I'm not sure I agree with that, but the COVID restrictions on the NY area are pretty ...
Jump to postGreat to see Flint doing so well.
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I'm not sure DTW-LHR was ever really commercially viable for BA. For large periods toward the end of the route's life, DTW was the "Bermuda II pit stop" for IAH-LHR, so BA wasn't filling the aircraft with local DTW traffic, especially up front. Large periods towards the end ? It operated ...
Jump to postThat's stretching the facts a little, they didn't even bother trying to compete, the market just isn't large enough ex UK to have two airlines where one (I very much grant you) is dominant on the far larger side of the market. And that's exactly what I said they could compete for years 2 airlines f...
Jump to postBritish Airways also dropped Detroit-London. Not because of lack of demand but because they couldn't compete with Northwest when it was grated access to Heathrow. That's stretching the facts a little, they didn't even bother trying to compete, the market just isn't large enough ex UK to have two ai...
Jump to postA friend was flying to Europe on Delta, coach, and the person behind him got upset when my friend's seat went back a bit. The male FA walking by said that's what you get when you fly coach. Yikes. Some things are better left unsaid. I can totally understand the person behind him getting upset, with...
Jump to postBritish Airways also dropped Detroit-London. Not because of lack of demand but because they couldn't compete with Northwest when it was grated access to Heathrow.
Jump to postThat would only apply if the notes were sequential. If the notes were random, then unless retailers or banks checked every note handled, I am not sure how effective it would be. You wouldn't need to have it be instant. As notes come back to the Fed, they'd be able to carefully build up a profile of...
Jump to postThere was an article written shortly after the merger was completed and how they called MEM Atlanta’s concourse M and were pleased with how it functioned. If MEM was a larger population and had higher O&D numbers DL could have operated a dual hub system in the south as they do in the Midwest wi...
Jump to postThat would only apply if the notes were sequential. If the notes were random, then unless retailers or banks checked every note handled, I am not sure how effective it would be. Also could he not have traveled the world and lauder that money in very remote locations where banks might not be as quic...
Jump to postThe Lockheed Electra was used as a combi with NWT, RV and PW
Jump to postI was actually thinking the other way, Fins traveling to Middle Eastern, Asian and African destinations. Given that Emirates does fly to Stockholm, which is more or less similar to Helsinki, it can definitely be made to work. Yes but you have to have traffic both ways to make it viable. EK is reach...
Jump to postParts are going to be the big issue. The DC10 has FedEx and the Air Force. The 707 has Omega Air and the Air Force. There simply aren’t enough flying for third party parts brokers to still have any parts left. Everything has been scrapped. It’ll probably be nearly impossible to get one airworthy si...
Jump to postParts are going to be the big issue. The DC10 has FedEx and the Air Force. The 707 has Omega Air and the Air Force. There simply aren’t enough flying for third party parts brokers to still have any parts left. Everything has been scrapped. It’ll probably be nearly impossible to get one airworthy si...
Jump to postYes but HEL is not really a destination people are looking to fly to for a holiday. Most Middle Eastern and Asian people want to go to France, Italy, Germany and England not to Finland. Perhaps all the route can support is a 737. I was actually thinking the other way, Fins traveling to Middle Easte...
Jump to postI'm surprised nobody mentioned Helsinki, one of the few major airports in Europe which they don't serve. It's only served by FlyDubai, but a 737 is not ideal for such a long distance. Sure Emirates can do it on their own metal. Yes but HEL is not really a destination people are looking to fly to fo...
Jump to postI'm surprised nobody mentioned Helsinki, one of the few major airports in Europe which they don't serve. It's only served by FlyDubai, but a 737 is not ideal for such a long distance. Sure Emirates can do it on their own metal. Yes but HEL is not really a destination people are looking to fly to fo...
Jump to postWhich has the disadvantage that there's nearly zero demand from Europe to Detroit, but there is demand from Europe to Florida. Detroit would be nothing more than a transfer point from where passengers can fly onward to wherever in America they want to be. JetBlue isn't really low-cost. What they're...
Jump to postWhere did you get the idea that Detroit has zero demand to Europe. Might not be as much as Florida but you could get higher fares than you can out of Florida plus DTW is in range of many destinations in Europe that Florida is not. Also NK is the 4 th largest operating vase for NK so connections are...
Jump to postI have a hard time engaging in these arguments about what was when the industry has literally been through in the past 12 months, and everything has changed. We don't know how things will recover, what routes will resume, what airlines will change strategy, and what revenue management strategies wi...
Jump to postI can't say I have ever heard of anyone from Metro Detroit going on Spring Break to Florida Panhandle destinations. They don't have the major resort attractions and theme parks like MCO. They don't have the natural draw an interia and "straight-shot" down I-75 like TPA, RSW, and the gener...
Jump to postAmen to that. Bring affordability the 313. Where do airlines NEED to go that aren't already affordable though? Virtually every market is covered by NK or a combination of F9 and NK. I think DTW is well enough served and has great ULCC exposure because of NK. Affordability does not mean cheap. Speci...
Jump to postI can't say I have ever heard of anyone from Metro Detroit going on Spring Break to Florida Panhandle destinations. They don't have the major resort attractions and theme parks like MCO. They don't have the natural draw an interia and "straight-shot" down I-75 like TPA, RSW, and the gener...
Jump to postCRJ200flyer wrote:Completely random question - on the BARII2 departure out of DTW, a first fix is NITRN, pronounced “night train” by ATC. Any idea what this refers to, or is it just random?
It wasn't until 2008 that DL & NW got LHR access. Two explanations, first up the long complicated answer Bermuda 1 didn't limit the routes which could be served, but the Federal Government decided who could fly from where. As I mentioned above, the limitation was a city's designation as a "...
Jump to postWith the addition of CVG and IND, I believe MCI is the last remaining large Midwest city without SY service unless you count DTW. Is it just a matter of time now? Why wouldn't you count Detroit ? SY isn't going to fly to Detroit, Delta and Spirit would choke them. That's why F9 and WN struggle to a...
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