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by klm617
Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Minneapolis Air Service Discussion
Replies: 215
Views: 23744

Re: Minneapolis Air Service Discussion

sunking737 wrote:
You do realize that DY is flying 737-800 and 787.!! While WizzAir is flying A321. ????


DY is getting the A321LR in 2019

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by klm617
Tue Feb 20, 2018 10:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New burgeoning business market in the US?
Replies: 32
Views: 3033

Re: New burgeoning business market in the US?

Regulators? So you assume that whatever they do or decide is fair and that their decisions are in no way influenced by all those lobbyists? EASY ANSWER: Because they publish their decision, methods, and data; so you can see for yourself. There's not much of any secret involved. How come European ai...

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by klm617
Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Woman berates flight attendant loses job
Replies: 54
Views: 8540

Re: Woman berates flight attendant loses job

Ok, I know this post is not going to make me very popular but I share the woman's concerns about sitting THE WHOLE FLIGHT next to a crying baby. Of course I wouldn't threaten anybody and would definitely not take it out on the FA, but a nonstop crying baby overwhelms me. I think airlines need some ...

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by klm617
Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Woman berates flight attendant loses job
Replies: 54
Views: 8540

Re: Woman berates flight attendant loses job

I agree that this ‘I will get you sacked’ and ‘do you know who I am’ attitude is out of order. But we make people this way by all the preferential treatment we give people that have some sort of social affluence we let them think they are better than others and that's what needs to stop even here o...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service
Replies: 48
Views: 7954

Re: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service

Maybe an opperunity for SN to start IAH? Lufthansa stated some weeks ago that the group is expanding in Africa. Let SN start LOS, a destination that should have been started years ago. If that works out, start IAH, an unserved route from BRU which is also a star hub. Why would another airline jump ...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11269

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

I guess you are going to shocked when I tell you the O&D between Lagos and Houston is larger than the O&D between Houston and Frankfurt, Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore, Mumbai, Beijing, Buenos Aires, need I mention anymore? If that were the case where is the flight to cater to that traffic. Dude, ...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11269

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

I am confident that AM (and DL by way of the JV) know how many passengers they are sending to BJX over ATL, MEX and MTY on a daily basis and how many of those are originating at DTW and thus they made the decision to launch the flight on the E190. Additionally consider that some midwest originating...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2017 total passenger rankings for US large hub airports
Replies: 144
Views: 22537

Re: 2017 total passenger rankings for US large hub airports

DTW Dec-2017 numbers are out now. Total pax: 34,701,497 International pax: 3,057,206 International pax as a percent of total pax: 8.81% AAGR from 2016: 0.87% Ranking: 18 below MSP and above FLL I wonder why DTW has less traffic than MSP and what DL's long term plans are for both DTW and MSP (will t...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Happy 36th birthday to the Boeing 757
Replies: 58
Views: 4880

Happy 36th birthday to the Boeing 757

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRar2YONKfk
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Happy Birthday to the Boeing 757 which is 36 years old today one of the best planes ever built and a real joy to fly one. I have enjoyed them with Delta, Northwest, Condor and American Trans Air.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRar2YONKfk

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New burgeoning business market in the US?
Replies: 32
Views: 3033

Re: New burgeoning business market in the US?

From the article: 'The road to success for a new airline, let alone sustainability, isn't easy. Bankruptcies and mergers have wiped out nearly every newcomer in the last twenty years. The last all-new large airline in the U.S. not swallowed up by consolidation was JetBlue Airways, which started fly...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New burgeoning business market in the US?
Replies: 32
Views: 3033

Re: New burgeoning business market in the US?

The article clearly states that many smaller, secondary markets lost air-links once consolidation took place. Larger airlines simply didn't feel the need to fly to there as they couldn't earn as much money or they simply believed that those from unserved markets should drive a few hours to the near...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: New burgeoning business market in the US?
Replies: 32
Views: 3033

Re: New burgeoning business market in the US?

So in the end it shows that all that consolidation was not so great for the customers, especially for those living outside the big cities. I really wish OneJet the best, they seem to be a really fine airline, just like Silver is. This is the absolute truth. The only markets that have benefited from...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11269

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

It amazes me that people think there is a market from Houston to Africa. I guess you are going to shocked when I tell you the O&D between Lagos and Houston is larger than the O&D between Houston and Frankfurt, Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore, Mumbai, Beijing, Buenos Aires, need I mention anymore? I...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11269

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

It amazes me that people think there is a market from Houston to Africa. I guess you are going to shocked when I tell you the O&D between Lagos and Houston is larger than the O&D between Houston and Frankfurt, Tokyo, Seoul, Singapore, Mumbai, Beijing, Buenos Aires, need I mention anymore? I...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN
Replies: 112
Views: 11269

Re: OAG Changes 2/18/2018:AM Adds DTW-BJX;AS Drops SFO-FLL/MSP,LAX-MCO,MEX-SAN;NK Drops MSP-ORD;WN Adds EWR-OAK/SAN

It amazes me that people think there’s a market from DTW to BJX. Google 'automotive investment Guanajuato.' International hotel chains, including Marriott, Hilton, and Starwood will build 52 new business hotels between 2014 and 2018 in the state of Guanajuato alone, bringing in US$350 million in in...

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by klm617
Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service
Replies: 48
Views: 7954

Re: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service

Plain and simple in this age of huge returns on investment if there was a Houston-Africa market airlines would be flocking there but sadly there is none.

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by klm617
Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13340

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

The attraction of MIA is the cruise traffic but I would venture to say that most Europeans doing a tour of Florida are flying into MCO near Disney and then motor caching around Florida and then back to MCO for their flight home.

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by klm617
Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Several European airlines struggling at MIA
Replies: 68
Views: 13340

Re: Several European airlines struggling at MIA

I suspect the main reason leading to the MIA cancellation of WW is very poor aircraft utilization ;) : WW131 Reykjavik to Miami departing 6:30PM arriving 10:30PM WW132 Miami to Reykjavik departing 4:30PM arriving 4:05AM (+1 day) As you can see, the aircraft utilization for this route is pretty bad,...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service
Replies: 48
Views: 7954

Re: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service

Whomever said "it was only a matter of time" before this allegedly-obviously-ridiculous route failed doesn't fully-understand the market. The "time" involved was SEVENTEEN years. There is a significant amount of traffic from the Houston area (and the Texas/Louisiana area general...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:37 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Airline customer codes question
Replies: 27
Views: 2196

Re: This is probably the dumbest question you'll ever hear from an aircraft enthusiast

Customer code is assigned before delivery so there are some aberrations... This is true, however there was at least one time where it was changed to already in production aircraft. The American Airlines Boeing 737-823 order that they dropped and handed to Qantas at the end of 2000. Those already in...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumour: NZ to fly AKL/DEN nonstop
Replies: 77
Views: 10347

Re: Rumour: NZ to fly AKL/DEN nonstop

First Aer Lingus and now Air New Zealand can an Emirates rumor be far behind.

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by klm617
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service
Replies: 48
Views: 7954

Re: Sonair ending Houston-Luanda service

It amazes me that people think there is a market from Houston to Africa. Sonair was basically a charter flight and they couldn't make it work why would anyone think Houston to Africa is viable for a for profit driven airline. There is no market there. The only other service from Houston to Africa wa...

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by klm617
Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?
Replies: 58
Views: 9636

Re: Is Virgin Atlantic struggling on LHR-MIA?

Perhaps Virgin should swap the route out with Delta being Delta probably has better brand recognition in the MIA market

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by klm617
Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

I find it sad that so many people think because they paid a few hundred dollars for a slip of paper, they think they are merely allowed to do whatever they want to airline workers. So many people on here seem to share that sentiment even though they won't outright admit it. There is a point in time...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR plans to announce 10 new routes along with a loss for this year, working on variation on Qsuites for A380's and 787's
Replies: 62
Views: 12555

Re: QR plans to announce 10 new routes along with a loss for this year, working on variation on Qsuites for A380's and 7

If anything it will be 10 short to medium haul routes. Don't see them adding anything really long haul at this point. So where do you think that Qatar should be sending all those wide bodies that they have on order and due for delivery to the airline? Eastern Europe, Middle East, Pakistan, Russia, ...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How much profit do airlines make out of your $355 ticket
Replies: 12
Views: 3859

Re: How much profit do airlines make out of your $355 ticket

https://image.ibb.co/ciRnd7/Screen_Shot_2018_02_14_at_12_00_40_PM.png The rest can be found here. https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-of-your-355-ticket-is-profit-for-airlines-1518618600 Looks like JetBlue is a little stronger than some on here think. Yes there is more to it than basic numbers bu...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

You know what, I afforded you some respect when I wrote to you. First of all you don’t know how to understand anything from a video (3) that we’re posted. Your previous comments and your lack of proper responses prove that you sir have no comprehension skills nor do you know how to read. Let’s brea...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

The fact that people are defending the employee says a lot about how low customer service has sunk in the US airline industry. Their job is to deal with difficult passengers, that's what they're paid to do. To use profanities against a paying customer, regardless of whoever was in the right, is wro...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

Having been a baggage service agent, I can confirm that passengers, especially East Indian males, can throw terrible tantrums only seen in daycare centers. The guy was wrong for cussing him out. Personally, I would have seen whether we had the bag before sending him back to Hawaiian, but the rules ...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

Some insiders keep saying that it was Hawaiian's responsability to give the luggage back to this customer (period). All right. However, in this particular situation, it appears that the suitcase flew with Delta, and was already delivered when the pax arrived. Right? If I understand it correctly, Ha...

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by klm617
Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

Having been a baggage service agent, I can confirm that passengers, especially East Indian males, can throw terrible tantrums only seen in daycare centers. The guy was wrong for cussing him out. Personally, I would have seen whether we had the bag before sending him back to Hawaiian, but the rules ...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 232
Views: 15957

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So two airlines are targeting Detroit now Norwegian and Aer Lingus let's see how committed the airport authority is to landing these airlines to compete against Delta and increasing revenue for the airport. I think with the service and pricing these two offer it could bring a lot of budget minded tr...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian's next long-haul targets
Replies: 47
Views: 7343

Re: Norwegian's next long-haul targets are....

Uh oh. The article says they're considering DTW. Cue the notorious fanboys in 3..2..1. On the other hand, I'm glad that PHL is in the running. More options among foreign carriers at PHL would be really great to see. So that two airlines targeting Detroit now Norwegian and Aer Lingus let's see how c...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX
Replies: 213
Views: 16408

Re: Delta Employee Uses Vulgarities Towards Customer @ PDX

This really doesn't surprise me at all because the encounters I have had with Delta CSAs is that attitude is part of their training. More often than not employees act this way towards customers when their work load is larger than they can handle so they last out at the customer because mangers usual...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar
Replies: 84
Views: 14387

Re: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar

Because they're DL. They do that type of thing. It doesn't really go beyond that. They've done it numerous amounts of times and they won't let EK hold ATL-DXB on their own. If that were true why didn't they add ATL-DOH and go up against QR Qatar isn't as stable right now? Recent claims of terrorist...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta wants to be the launch customer for 797
Replies: 171
Views: 23819

Re: Delta wants to be the launch customer for 797

questions wrote:
Has Delta ever been the launch customer for a new aircraft type? If so, which one(s)?



The DC9 and Convair 880

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta wants to be the launch customer for 797
Replies: 171
Views: 23819

Re: Delta wants to be the launch customer for 797

Then they should put their money where their mouth is and place an significant order to get the ball rolling. Delta is nothing more than a big propaganda machine very rarely do they ever do what they say.

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar
Replies: 84
Views: 14387

Re: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar

Oh it is, is it? Delta is very defensive of ATL, and with their beef with the ME3 I could see DL doing it whether it was an epic fail or not. If they can price dump in domestic markets with extra capacity and ridiculously low fares to chase out a competitor, they will do it against EK. If they chas...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar
Replies: 84
Views: 14387

Re: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar

But what's the point of DL flying ATL-DXB to defend ATL? There's little to no ATL-DXB market. People in ATL wouldn't be flying EK to go to DXB. They're flying there to change planes to Africa, Middle East, India and SE Asia. DL would have 0 feed on the DXB end. Because they're DL. They do that type...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar
Replies: 84
Views: 14387

Re: Delta eyes return to Persian Gulf region after US strikes deal with Qatar

I'm sure there's a certain someone who thinks DL will start DTW-DOH... :lol: :rotfl: No, its they SHOULD start DTW-DOH, but they WILL start ATL-DOH. :duck: Let's be honest from what I have learned her on a.net as that when there is a large or larger ethnic group in a particular city then it warrant...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 3:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network Thread - 2018
Replies: 292
Views: 26194

Re: Delta Air Lines Network Thread 2018

I'd be very surprised if MSP does not have a flight to ICN within the next few years either on DL or KE. (I think we all here can agree Delta would use their metal for this route.) I'd have to go back and read the ruling on the HND decision to see what restrictions DOT has placed on the route. I th...

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by klm617
Wed Feb 14, 2018 1:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: QR plans to announce 10 new routes along with a loss for this year, working on variation on Qsuites for A380's and 787's
Replies: 62
Views: 12555

Re: QR plans to announce 10 new routes along with a loss for this year, working on variation on Qsuites for A380's and 7

If anything it will be 10 short to medium haul routes. Don't see them adding anything really long haul at this point.

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by klm617
Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network Thread - 2018
Replies: 292
Views: 26194

Re: Delta Air Lines Network Thread 2018

beerbus wrote:
June 1 1997 NWA schedule:

NW 23 MSP KIX

1135 Dept
1405 Arr

non-stop

Daily eff 6/21/97


That lasted then about as long as HKG from MSP so you really can say that MSP has carried two Asian destinations for a decade . Only NRT was maintained on a consistent basis.

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by klm617
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US
Replies: 100
Views: 9569

Re: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US

kavok wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what are the largest airports/markets in the USA eastern/central time zones without TATL service on a OneWorld carrier? Would be curious to see the list.



I would say that would be Detroit.

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by klm617
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US
Replies: 100
Views: 9569

Re: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US

BWIAirport wrote:
After FI came back to BWI, EI might do the same.


From what I have read Baltimore is a given.

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by klm617
Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network Thread - 2018
Replies: 292
Views: 26194

Re: Delta Air Lines Network Thread 2018

For many years NW operated twice daily MSP-NRT flights with 747s alongside service to Osaka, also on 747s. They also briefly operated MSP-HKG, though it only lasted for a short period of time. Jeremy Northwest never flew MSP-KIX and the double daily was moved from Detroit to MSP for I think 2 years...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network Thread - 2018
Replies: 292
Views: 26194

Re: Delta Air Lines Network Thread 2018

Having a 90 minute minimum is neither practical, cost effective, or competitive. 1. Having a 90 minute min cnx would significantly reduce the hours each A/C flew daily. This reduces return on assets. Which reduces airline earnings. 2. Having A/C sit at a gate for an unnecessary amount of time also ...

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by klm617
Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Air Lines Network Thread - 2018
Replies: 292
Views: 26194

Re: Delta Air Lines Network Thread 2018

Having a 90 minute minimum is neither practical, cost effective, or competitive. 1. Having a 90 minute min cnx would significantly reduce the hours each A/C flew daily. This reduces return on assets. Which reduces airline earnings. 2. Having A/C sit at a gate for an unnecessary amount of time also ...

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