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by klm617
Tue Oct 23, 2018 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I don't think DL has the room to put a 75W in Detroit unless they deploy D1 to LAX, SFO, PDX, SAN, or SEA and bridge the flight for BCN. The 76W is more flexible. I'm trying to find out more about comparing yields with BCN and FCO. Don't forget that FCO does get some high yielding pax on the Detroi...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Here's a nice, constructive conversation. The Detroit-Barcelona market is slightly bigger than DUB, DTW-Spain would fill a 757, why isn't that flown? Perhaps, yields are too low? At this point I would welcome anything but DTW-BCN would have to be on Delta because it would need feed to make it work ...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW adds Vancouver
Replies: 32
Views: 3892

Re: WOW adds Vancouver

They won't be around by that time. Can't wait till you are wrong :white: The Norweigan haters said that for YEARS on here the same thing. They have since all given up and most have moved onto saying WOW will die now. Get some new material people. Any airline can go under, its a tough industry. Exac...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Many things that out leaders talk about never come to fruition. But at least you have Aer Lingus's attention and let's face it it's not about the money MSP offered nothing. Then you go from there while continuing to keep their attention and focus on Detroit rather than another city by being apathet...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Surely you know, as has been discussed, that DL's MSPPVG proposal is nothing more than a swipe at AA's dormant US to China slots. DL well knows, and you should as well, that the slot authorities are only going to pressure AA into using or giving up their soon to be dormant ORD-PEK and ORD-PVG slots...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Get out there and get the data together that EI can't refute like I said they have a year in front of them as they blew the first round of adds. Routes on line did a pretty good presentation out there on Detroit-Dublin build on that and make that your goal show them that while WOW Air dumped a lot ...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Get ready folks Delta is setting Detroit up to take another big hit by purposing MSP-PVG for 2020. While it proposes ZERO for Detroit international adds. Surely you know, as has been discussed, that DL's MSPPVG proposal is nothing more than a swipe at AA's dormant US to China slots. DL well knows, ...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW adds Vancouver
Replies: 32
Views: 3892

Re: WOW adds Vancouver

hvusslax wrote:
Are there a lot of Indians around Vancouver? They wanted a destination that could drive connections to Dehli.


That's exactly it they want the traffic to feed the India connections. Good choice on WOW's part YVR has a huge Indian community.

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Excellent response to avoid responding to my comment. What comment? What point? As you well know I'm always more than happy to respond to your points or comments, but I honestly cannot discern a concise point or a direct question from your post. In summary, what is the point you were trying to make...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Get ready folks Delta is setting Detroit up to take another big hit by purposing MSP-PVG for 2020. While it proposes ZERO for Detroit international adds.

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Excellent response to avoid responding to my comment. What comment? What point? As you well know I'm always more than happy to respond to your points or comments, but I honestly cannot discern a concise point or a direct question from your post. In summary, what is the point you were trying to make...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

That question is very simple. When every other US airport is pushing FAA definition of "incentive" to "borderline subsidies", what are you offering to airlines to start new service? Why are financial incentives even necessary? A lot of new airline service starts without it. If t...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

That question is very simple. When every other US airport is pushing FAA definition of "incentive" to "borderline subsidies", what are you offering to airlines to start new service? Why are financial incentives even necessary? A lot of new airline service starts without it. If t...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

I literally could not summarize what you've said there even if I dedicated an hour to the task. You must have at least four sentences there of 50 words or more, and I'm pretty sure one has 80+ words. If you want to be taken seriously, please learn to proof-read. Once you've garnered proficiency in ...

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by klm617
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 10/21/2018: AS;DL Ends JFK-SNA;UA
Replies: 68
Views: 9321

Re: OAG Changes 10/21/2018: AS;DL Ends JFK-SNA;UA

Good solid week for Detroit but what's up with this ATL losing 2 SFO frequencies ?

DL ATL-SFO APR 8>6[7] MAY 8>6[7]

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by klm617
Sun Oct 21, 2018 10:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

First of all if numbers and rankings didn't matter why publish the numbers at all. They do matter you yourself should know this as the numbers and data person that you are. Good numbers drive growth. When companies see growth it raises eye brows and they want to be part of it so airport ranking doe...

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by klm617
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

First of all if numbers and rankings didn't matter why publish the numbers at all. They do matter you yourself should know this as the numbers and data person that you are. Good numbers drive growth. When companies see growth it raises eye brows and they want to be part of it so airport ranking doe...

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by klm617
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1434
Views: 116490

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Whelp, seems WOW leaving certainly isn't pushing Icelandair toward year-round service. Instead, their return is being pushed from March to May. https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/10/icelandair_delays_return_to_cl.html#incart_river_index Looks like CLE’s hanging by a thread. Obviously wi...

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by klm617
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?
Replies: 82
Views: 16307

Re: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?

If WOW does end up going under. Might we see Norwegian pick up some of the slack? They currently serve KEF to BGO, OSL, ARN, FCO, BCN, ALC and MAD, so they could certainly replace some of WOW's European destinations, but what about North America? They absolutely should pick up some of WOW's better ...

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by klm617
Sun Oct 21, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

KLM617, how often to you actually fly and how often do you use anybody other than DL? Probably 75% Delta and 25% American. It's kind of hard to avoid Delta in this market but I assure you if there were alternatives that saved me a significant amount of money I would use them in a heart beat. The pr...

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by klm617
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Detroit keeps slipping year after year in the airport rankings I'm perplexed as to why you think 'slipping in the airport rankings' matters. And what rankings are you referring to? Busiest airports by passenger boardings? Who, apart from die-hard enthusiasts, looks at those rankings and numbers? Wh...

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by klm617
Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

... If DL hates DTW as much as you think they do they could just move your international flights to another hub and no one would notice. ... I don't think DL hates DTW, it just milks a captive market to the maximum. 1) Constant negative news about the City of Detroit (most of it not true) extended ...

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by klm617
Sat Oct 20, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

The late afternoon and evening departure banks are very busy for DTW. Like tonight, concourse A was crazy busy between 7-8pm as that is one of the biggest departure banks all day. While it may not seem like much, DL is up 1% YOY at DTW. Like most airports there is noticable difference depending on ...

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by klm617
Sat Oct 20, 2018 11:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

The late afternoon and evening departure banks are very busy for DTW. Like tonight, concourse A was crazy busy between 7-8pm as that is one of the biggest departure banks all day. While it may not seem like much, DL is up 1% YOY at DTW. Like most airports there is noticable difference depending on ...

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by klm617
Sat Oct 20, 2018 1:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

That's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. This is like comparing apples to turkeys. Charleston is a small, touristy destination that had no TATL flights until now. Detroit is bigger, not a tourist destination by any stretch of the word, and has robust service acros...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23953

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

the airport doesnt get revenue from the flight. It could have to pay BA some money for the flight. In return, the region gets inbound tourists who spend thousands of dollars on hotels, car rentals, activities, etc. So here is my question. If CHS offered BA 2 million what would the airport get in re...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible. That's not an apples to apples comparison. It's not even apples to oranges. This is like comparing apples t...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23953

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

So here is my question. If CHS offered BA 2 million what would the airport get in return as far as revenue from the BA flight ?

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible. CHS paid an almost $2m financial incentive for one year. 2x a week won’t mean much of a loss to BA if it do...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

So with BA starting LHR-CHS that opens up a whole bunch of new possibilities at what Detroit might attract. If a market that is that far out of the box can be added anything becomes possible.

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?
Replies: 82
Views: 16307

Re: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?

Did their model ever work to begin with? When airlines start adding routes like WW did, there is a period of success because adding these flights can often stimulate market demand that would otherwise not have been there. So in a way, it might have worked well in the beginning, but soon enough that...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 4:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23953

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Saw WW is anouncing a new North American destination next week. Wonder if its possible for CMH to open and have people from Cincinnati and Cleveland meet in the middle?? Sadly I don't think it's CMH. In the press release it said they are looking for markets to feed their new India service so my mon...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 3:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 85
Views: 8822

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

When does it end? It's still on delta.com in April. It's not, it just that DTW-GRU isn't daily and is flown only a few days of the week. He's probably just looking at a date it wasn't operating anyway. That's what I thought. It's been only a few times per week for a while now; I figured he would've...

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 85
Views: 8822

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

Midwestindy wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
Detroit313 wrote:
MCO and DTW to GRU are ending.
DTW-GRU isnt going anywhere. It's still loaded.


DL makes schedule changes tonight, there is nothing to say they couldn't remove it


DTW-GRU has now been removed.

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 85
Views: 8822

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

xdlx wrote:
As long as the frame moves to open MCOCDG ......


Perhaps they are moving the frame to Detroit to operate DTW-MAN on the days it isn't operating to GRU from Detroit.

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta MCO-GRU ending?
Replies: 85
Views: 8822

Re: Delta MCO-GRU ending?

AlexBrewster03 wrote:
It also appears that the DTW to GRU flight is ending the same day as well.


Detroit is still loaded into April.

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by klm617
Fri Oct 19, 2018 12:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: STL air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1226
Views: 90610

Re: STL air service discussion - 2018

There really is nothing to get upset about the BA twice a week LHR-CHS flight it equates to nothing more than a twice a week four month summer charter flight nothing more nothing less. Who knows if it even comes back in 2020.

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?
Replies: 82
Views: 16307

Re: WOW Air Axes JFK and DFW Routes: is Their Model Failing?

Got to go with ATL being the city is the USA that WW is eluding to as being the next North American destination. It's the last big market not connected to KEF outside of IAH and IAH is to far for the A321 and same day turns.

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23953

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

I love how many nonstop routes between Europe and the US exist now. CHS had not been on my list at all. I always secretly hope that some other European airline besides Eurowings (used to be Air Berlin) would discover RSW. Congrats to the people in Charleston for this win. Sooner or later we will se...

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish to Start Newark Service
Replies: 34
Views: 5679

Re: Turkish to Start Newark Service

With EWR being added, Denver is now the only Star Hub with no TK service. Any chance of TK heading that way? Might be a better option than Emirates IMHO. What's the volume of Middle East and Indian O&D to/from Denver? O&D from nearby cities served by DEN that aren't also served by LAX? Libe...

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23953

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

And yea, I'm sure the DTW fanboys will come out in full force after this one. I am surprised this came before a bunch of places, like CLT, DTW, STL, and MCI amongst others. Makes me wonder if they're looking at more markets at CHS's size, and if there's more to come. Like BDL, PVD, ORF, MEM, and PW...

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 260
Views: 23953

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Congrats to CHS and kudos to BA for thinking outside the box with this add. It's so refreshing and exciting to see BA take a chance like this rather than all these airlines just piling on more into the big markets that are already over saturated with capacity.

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:09 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airport Connectivity W18/19
Replies: 10
Views: 935

Re: Airport Connectivity W18/19

I thought I had read in this forum that Denver had reached the 200 destination status.

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Turkish to Start Newark Service
Replies: 34
Views: 5679

Re: Turkish to Start Newark Service

With EWR being added, Denver is now the only Star Hub with no TK service. Any chance of TK heading that way? Might be a better option than Emirates IMHO. Good chance of it, TK has a knack for oddball non-Star destinations like ATL and MIA so DEN would be a walk in the park, especially without compe...

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by klm617
Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE

WOW CEO Skúli Mogensen was interviewed by Icelandic media today and said that they are expanding the route network by 15% in the next year. Much of that will be increased frequencies to existing destinations but he also teased that a new North American destination was in the works and might be anno...

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by klm617
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

It's a questionable proposition at best. As you acknowledged, Rome's O&D is much stronger in summer, which already makes the notion of running it year-round rather wobbly. Furthermore, we need to think about the hubs. Detroit offers good connectivity, but Alitalia's FCO offering, even if we ass...

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by klm617
Wed Oct 17, 2018 6:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Detroit air service discussion - 2018
Replies: 1922
Views: 110447

Re: Detroit air service discussion - 2018

Steering this back to DTW-MAN. The article mentioned in passing in the top post of this page suggested around the mid 50s PDEW, Of more recent interest is that at the last World Routes conference, there was a publication by Anna Aero showing the largest number of long-haul searches out of DTW on un...

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by klm617
Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Capacity on JFK-DTW: Why so low?
Replies: 47
Views: 6044

Re: DL Capacity on JFK-DTW: Why so low?

I have almost every PDF timetable for NW saved on my computer from 2005-2010. I have a box of an assortment of old hardcopy timetables somewhere at home going back from about 1995-2002 for various airlines including AA & NW. I just have to say I think NW's timetable format was probably the best...

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by klm617
Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE
Replies: 136
Views: 14635

Re: WW ending STL, CVG, CLE

Since it's the white elephant in the room: Why was DTW was spared the axe? I don't believe DTW or the WCAA offered any incentives for WOW to fly to DTW as they never really do. Could this bode that the shorter flight time combined with (implied) higher yields means that the service for WOW is worth...

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