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by bob75013
Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates
Replies: 339
Views: 29065

Re: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates

While HA does not currently serve either DFW or DAL, HA could be accommodated at DAL if HA had narrowbody aircraft with the range to reach DAL nonstop from HNL............................. it does not or if DAL had gates that were capable of accommodating widebody aircraft........................ i...

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by bob75013
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates
Replies: 339
Views: 29065

Re: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates

While HA does not currently serve either DFW or DAL, HA could be accommodated at DAL if HA had narrowbody aircraft with the range to reach DAL nonstop from HNL............................. it does not or if DAL had gates that were capable of accommodating widebody aircraft........................ it...

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by bob75013
Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future
Replies: 60
Views: 8096

A380 - Two VERY Different Views of the Future

Boeing's: A Total of 60 A380/747 sized aircraft will be sold over the next 20 years, AND Airbus will not fill all 380 orders currently on the books: http://www.businessinsider.com/boeing-exec-says-the-747-jumbo-jets-future-will-be-as-a-private-jet-2018-7 Airbus's:best years for A380 are yet to come ...

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by bob75013
Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United & ExpressJet Hassle Pax Over Meds
Replies: 31
Views: 2893

Re: United & ExpressJet Hassle Pax Over Meds

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/a ... 25-6196(11)60731-3/fulltext
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DocLightning wrote:
"She suffers from Lyme Disease."

There. Is. No. Such. Thing. As. Chronic. Lyme. Disease. I wonder how much of this is legit.



It appears that the Mayo Clinic disagrees with you

https://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/a ... 25-6196(11)60731-3/fulltext

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by bob75013
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

Just now I found out that my Rand McNally roadmap, bought in the U.S., lists Georgia before Florida! Is that because the surface of all the lakes in Florida is not counted? Edit: thanks for the replies. It is clear to me now. Size is a function of size of the footprint. Everything within the footpr...

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by bob75013
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

What TSA “nightmare?” I can’t remember the last time I waited more than 5 or 10 minutes (precheck, domestic terminal). That’s certainly acceptable for an airport of ATL’s size. There is no TSA "nightmare". OP is devoid of any such facts. Domestic terminal has several paths into T, from Cl...

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by bob75013
Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

http://www.theus50.com/fastfacts/area.php
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Actually Minnesota is bigger than them both. Problem is that Minnesota is east, west and north of the Mississippi..

For states that are entirely east of the river the biggest is square mles are

Georgia -57906
Michigan -56804
Florida is 3 farther back

http://www.theus50.com/fastfacts/area.php

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by bob75013
Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2546
Views: 315871

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Market share is a big issue for any commercial enterprise. Market share is the only indicator of a product strength. Absolute numbers change all the time but the market share is a constant. And if you're losing the percentage, you're losing the race and will be pushed out of the market segment. Exa...

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2546
Views: 315871

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Matt6461 wrote:
flyingclrs727 wrote:
The 737 shares the same fuselage cross-section as the front half of the 727 plus systems, and engines.


Is this still true of the NG/MAX? Are they really using '60's systems still? How much improved (if at all)?


About the only thing the NG/ MAX share with it's earlier incarnations is the name 737

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 15, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why don’t US passenger airlines have cargo subsidiaries?
Replies: 52
Views: 6792

Re: Why don’t US passenger airlines have CARGO subsidiaries?

This has been widely discussed just recently. Just use the search function on this site and you’ll find a long thread about this topic. There’s no need to roll it out again right now. The poster asks a question, whether it’s been asked before is irrelevant on an enthusiast site There’s always new r...

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2546
Views: 315871

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Give me a wide A321 seat / armrest / aisle with enough knee room over the cramped 10 abreast 777 economy seat / aisle / armrest I had yesterday.. https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2014/11/25/ten-abreast-economy-isnt-upgrade-no-matter-spin/ But we're not discussing a 10 abreast 777 here, are we. I thoug...

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 15, 2018 3:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2546
Views: 315871

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

A single aisle over 200 passengers begins to be the definition of torture. Give me a wide A321 seat / armrest / aisle with enough knee room over the cramped 10 abreast 777 economy seat / aisle / armrest I had yesterday.. https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2014/11/25/ten-abreast-economy-isnt-upgrade-no-m...

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is DCA the closest thing to Kai Tak in the US?
Replies: 36
Views: 1918

Re: Is DCA the closest thing to Kai Tak in the US?

f35 wrote:
Stapleton is the most similar airport to Kai Tak.


and like Kai Tak you can't fly there any more ...

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2546
Views: 315871

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Well this is the most detailed look I've seen about what Boeing said pre -Farnsborough Highlights: 2 jet family serving 220-270 pax twin aisle range - Chicago to mid Europe need build costs such that Boeing can profitability sell the 797 for around $70 million https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeing-r...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

How many times have we heard those excuses. (DFW/DAL) (MDW/ORD) It was that logic that gave birth to the Wright Amendment. 1) A reliever airport doesn't need to offer the diversity of routes that the main airport does. IT would need to offer enough nonstop service to enough destinations to make it ...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

ATL is a major reason the city of Atlanta punches above its weight. Because of the connections available at ATL, the entire southeast has access to the world. No reliever airport could offer the diversity of routes found at ATL. Why would I want to fly out of a smaller airport and make connections ...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

From a customer's perspective, why wouldn't you want everything centralized? If I took a flight into Atlanta, I dont want to have to take a bus an hour or so north just to catch a connection. Logistically speaking, it makes perfect sense having everything in one spot. Maybe to secure a lower price....

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta vs. Boeing
Replies: 51
Views: 7996

Re: Delta vs. Boeing

Hurt feelings, pissing match, grudges... That really misses the point. If you're a major airline like Delta you expect a lot of love from the OEMs. At the end of the day you do your analysis and make your decision on the numbers. What you certainly don't expect is a rogue factor like another OEM (B...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did Boeing shelve the 797 / NMA ?
Replies: 10
Views: 1223

Re: Did Boeing shelve the 797 / NMA ?

I see shelved as delayed put aside for some time. Many were expecting launch this year, last year. Now the hidden message here seems late next year. "No later then 2019" sounds so much better than "delayed at least another year". But that seems to be the message non the less! Ac...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

And in other news, this whole thread came about because of 75013's butt hurt because Delta is "gate squatting and trespassing" on a beloved WN gate at DAL which can be seen in many if not all posts of his. Signed notdownnlocked in 75019. Actually, the whole thread came about because Ed Ba...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Did Boeing shelve the 797 / NMA ?
Replies: 10
Views: 1223

Re: Did Boeing shelve the 797 / NMA ?

I guess kees je didn't actually read the article before asking if Boeing has shelved the project: "Several 797 news items surfaced recently suggesting Boeing is leaning toward launching the airplane. Boeing secured a trademark for "797" from the European Union Intellectual Property Of...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 2546
Views: 315871

Re: Boeing 797 Discussion Thread - 2018

Well, Boeing is now saying it has to make a 797 decision BY THE END OF 2019!!! in order to get a 2025 EIS. So there will be no Farnborough announcement. You mean we have to put up with this continuing speculation nonsense for up to another 18 months??? https://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/news/2018/0...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

In other news Marlboro is against government funded anti-smoking campaigns. And in other news, this whole thread came about because of 75013's butt hurt because Delta is "gate squatting and trespassing" on a beloved WN gate at DAL which can be seen in many if not all posts of his. Signed ...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

I don't think anyone is talking about a project of that grandiose scale. I suspect any sort of "second commercial Atlanta-area airport" project would be akin to the privately-developed terminal at PAE or a low-cost project like the PGD terminal or the new LGB terminal which came in under ...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates
Replies: 339
Views: 29065

Re: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates

In my opinion, WN can likely do well at DFW if it starts service out of DFW in addition to DAL. WN actually also has focus cities at ATL, LAX, and DEN, all of which carry more domestic passengers per year than DFW does. WN can also significantly expand its operations in the Metroplex by starting se...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

From a customer's perspective, why wouldn't you want everything centralized? If I took a flight into Atlanta, I dont want to have to take a bus an hour or so north just to catch a connection. Logistically speaking, it makes perfect sense having everything in one spot. If you book a flight with an a...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

A second airport would provide DL with much needed competition. WN at DAL keep sAA at DFW on it's toes. WN at MDW keep AA and UA at ORD on their toes. UA at EWR keeps DL at LGA on it's toes. I don't think any of those operations are , to quote Bastian, "sub 'scale" Who's going to step up ...

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates
Replies: 339
Views: 29065

Re: Dallas says it has a plan to resolve Southwest-Delta fight for Love Field gates

There are 4 airports in the U.S. that carry more domestic passengers per year than DFW does, and 3 of these 4 airports are already served by WN. Here is the number of passengers per year for DFW and the 4 U.S. airports that carry more domestic passengers per year than DFW does: ATL - 89,455,000 (WN...

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Re: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

Cubsrule wrote:
What TSA “nightmare?” I can’t remember the last time I waited more than 5 or 10 minutes (precheck, domestic terminal). That’s certainly acceptable for an airport of ATL’s size.


There's HUGE difference between the TSA pre lines and the regular TSA lines

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta
Replies: 121
Views: 11960

Delta not a fan of second airport in Atlanta

so says it's CEO. Gee, I wonder why? Maybe because DL would actually have to compete for business in Atlanta for the first time in decades. Bastian laughingly was quoted in the article ""The secret to the success of what we have is the biggest airport in the world," Delta CEO Ed Basti...

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 10:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?
Replies: 24
Views: 2555

Re: TWA "For the best of America" slogan?

I always liked Continental's slogan from the 70's; We really move our tail for you. - sung to music on tv commercial

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest and Next Schedule Extension
Replies: 2
Views: 393

Re: Southwest and Next Schedule Extension

southwest normally extends 7 months or so out. So the rough answer to your question is about 7 months before Easter.

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't JetBlue fly to Canada?
Replies: 43
Views: 6468

Re: Why doesn't JetBlue fly to Canada?

As for why no Canada - IIRC operating in Canada is expensive (i.e. airport fees) and that has deterred the like of B6 or WN from operating within Canada. BINGO! That is also my understanding. WN seems to be able to get significant number of Canadians to cross the border to get cheaper fights to the...

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus-BBD and Boeing-Embraer. Who bought who?
Replies: 14
Views: 1430

Re: Airbus-BBD and Boeing-Embraer. Who bought who?

We don't really know the details of exactly how the Boeing-Embraer partnership will look like. I suspect it's basically Boeing funding a new model while using Brazil as a low cost center and will be a JV for just certain models. I doubt it would be 50/50, but Engine Alliance is something similar in...

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by bob75013
Fri Jul 13, 2018 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus-BBD and Boeing-Embraer. Who bought who?
Replies: 14
Views: 1430

Re: Airbus-BBD and Boeing-Embraer. Who bought who?

Long term, Embraer and Brazil might stand to lose if Boeing treats them the same way they treated de Havilland Canada back in the day. On the other hand, they stand to huge gains if Boeing decides to outsource other products to Brazil. I don't know that story. What did Boeing do to DHC? Care to sha...

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by bob75013
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Trump proposes new livery for AF1
Replies: 65
Views: 6216

Re: Trump proposes new livery for AF1

itisi wrote:
Let me guess... featuring lots of gold and orange .....


With a stylized T on the vertical stabilizer -- ala his personal 757. After all it is H IS plane for at least the next two years. :white:

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by bob75013
Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Proposal: Flying Trains
Replies: 36
Views: 4338

Re: Proposal: Flying Trains

Well we already have Airbuses. Flying trains would be the next logical step. ;-)

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest is America's favorite 'value airline' brand
Replies: 75
Views: 5657

Re: Southwest is America's favorite 'value airline' brand

F27500 wrote:
Really wonder why? No advance seat assignments, cattle car "get in numerical order" boarding, no IFE … silly tacky acting crews .. .ugly livery ... so why ?

JetBlue is vastly superior. And more professional.


The 77,000 people who took the survey seem to disagree with you.

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest is America's favorite 'value airline' brand
Replies: 75
Views: 5657

Re: Southwest is America's favorite 'value airline' brand

Interesting with what they perceive as “value.” They are often the same price if not more expensive than legacy carriers and offer less. Free bags only get you so far. Come back and tell us what happens on a legacy when you try to change flights -- how much is it that they charge? Southwest charges...

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by bob75013
Sat Jul 07, 2018 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest is America's favorite 'value airline' brand
Replies: 75
Views: 5657

Southwest is America's favorite 'value airline' brand

Southwest Airlines (LUV) is America’s favorite “value airline” brand, according to a Harris Poll survey of more than 77,000 U.S. consumers over the age of 15. The data seems to indicate that Southwest fares better than the legacies, too. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/southwest-americas-favorite-val...

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by bob75013
Thu Jul 05, 2018 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Embraer and Boeing Partnership confirmed
Replies: 662
Views: 75095

Re: Embraer and Boeing Partnership confirmed

Just curious, does that mean Airbus USA inc will be able to lodge an ITC dumping complaint if E2s US sale prices are below those elsewhere... (once the Mobile FAL is up and running) :stirthepot: Airbus USA can sell within the USA what ever it builds in the USA for whatever price it desires -- just ...

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by bob75013
Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing has given the 3 Major Engine Manufacturers until June 27 to submit their 797 engine proposals
Replies: 313
Views: 45554

Re: Boeing has given the 3 Major Engine Manufacturers until June 27 to submit their 797 engine proposals

Now what Southwest wants in this plane is a wildcard. who says Southwest wants this? seriously, I ask. Fast forward to 2025 when WN might be running out of new routes due to limited 737 range, and limited gate space at narrow body airports like MDW and DAL, and a small wide body with folding wing t...

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by bob75013
Tue Jul 03, 2018 8:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A330-800 status
Replies: 62
Views: 10527

Re: A330-800 status

It is not a dumping case anyway. An USA manufacturer can give its frame away without it being dumping, they can sell the frame as far below cost as they want to. It is only dumping when a foreign manufacturer does it. Let's call it legal dumping , if you prefer, but still dumping. Immoral, unfair a...

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by bob75013
Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Embraer and Boeing Partnership confirmed
Replies: 662
Views: 75095

Re: Boeing has held takeover talks with Embraer: WSJ

"SAO PAULO (Reuters) - Planemakers Boeing Co <BA.N> and Embraer SA <EMBR3.SA> have prepared contracts of their proposed tie-up and are expected to submit them to the Brazilian government within two weeks, Brazilian newspaper Valor Economico reported on its website Monday." https://finance....

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will the 797 and MAX family be enough?
Replies: 37
Views: 7208

Re: Will the 797 and MAX family be enough?

However the A321neo will also continue to offer: * low price; * great availablility; * superbly efficient and reliable performance; * great resale and financing options; * a very large pool of qualified pilots, engineers, simulator centres, spares chains etc.; * the common Airbus cockpit, with effi...

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by bob75013
Sun Jul 01, 2018 3:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Schedule Extension 6/28
Replies: 256
Views: 20952

Re: Southwest Schedule Extension 6/28

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/southwes ... 00245.html
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Thee is some speculation that one of the reasons WN is adding 15 flights next year at DAL is to push utilization to the maximum, thinking it might help them in their continuing court fight about DAL with DL..

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/southwes ... 00245.html

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by bob75013
Fri Jun 29, 2018 7:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Something is happening at the site of DFW Terminal F
Replies: 51
Views: 7389

Re: Something is happening at the site of DFW Terminal F

First of all, pilots don't normally get to choose departure runway.. At DFW, If you're leaving to go west,your pilot will not be able to request departure on one of the east runways. Second, as was the case with arriving aircraft, aircraft departing for points east (arriving from points east) use r...

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by bob75013
Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Something is happening at the site of DFW Terminal F
Replies: 51
Views: 7389

Re: Something is happening at the site of DFW Terminal F

You have your runways mixed up. A new terminal in the Express North Parking lot (was there yesterday), would be on the 18/36 runways, not 17/35s. 17L is the furthest runway from all terminals and rarely, if ever used for takeoffs. Planes land there and in order to get over to the Terminal B/D side ...

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