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by jbs2886
Fri May 18, 2018 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018
Replies: 279
Views: 40589

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Does anyone know why some of DL's original 757-200s were retired as early as 2009-2011 while others of similar age and older are still flying? I noticed several ships 606, 607, 625, 626, 656, and 677 were retired in this early time range, while similar-aged sister ships (and even older ones) were k...

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by jbs2886
Fri May 18, 2018 3:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SilkAir becomes 'Singapore Airlines'
Replies: 80
Views: 16724

Re: SilkAir becomes 'Singapore Airlines'

I wonder if this is really a smart strategy, maybe it's a first step in a new strategy? SQ has managed to keep up a high quality image passengers are willing to schedule / pay extra for. The Silkair part of this brand has now to compete with the AirAsia, Lionair and Jetstar LCC's. That could easily...

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by jbs2886
Thu May 17, 2018 9:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 185
Views: 20983

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

T773ER wrote:
Strong rumblings from within DL indicate it will be a 777 and not the 350 due to performance...


To where?

Also, the A350 fanboys are about to get very defensive on that statement (as they did about LAX-SYD).

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by jbs2886
Wed May 16, 2018 2:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 185
Views: 20983

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

And this thread has officially been ruined by the exact same poster that ruins any other DL thread. Agreed. It is quite annoying. I don't understand how a thread can be ruined by a poster. If you disagree, all the better marshaling of argumentation, facts, claims, and counterclaims. We will see wha...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 16, 2018 2:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF-KLM, Delta, Virgin Atlantic sign Trans-Atlantic Partnership
Replies: 20
Views: 4370

Re: AF-KLM, Delta, Virgin Atlantic sign Trans-Atlantic Partnership

readytotaxi wrote:
Can just hear the French union, "You've got £220m to spend on VA and nothing for us????, Non !"


AF/KLM funds were from purchases by DL of AF/KLM shares last year.

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by jbs2886
Wed May 16, 2018 2:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AF-KLM, Delta, Virgin Atlantic sign Trans-Atlantic Partnership
Replies: 20
Views: 4370

Re: AF-KLM, Delta, Virgin Atlantic sign Trans-Atlantic Partnership

If I'm doing my math correct, this means DL is now majority shareholder of VS. Interesting.. I'm not sure about majority but DL is most certainly the largest stockholder. I suspect he is referring to DL's indirect interest in Virgin through AF/KLM, of which they own around 10%. When this was first ...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 16, 2018 1:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3
Replies: 185
Views: 20983

Re: DL to add new routes after agreement with ME3

And this thread has officially been ruined by the exact same poster that ruins any other DL thread.

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by jbs2886
Tue May 15, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska to Close Pilot Base in NYC
Replies: 80
Views: 8592

Re: Alaska to Close Pilot Base in NYC

Maybe someone can answer this, but are crew bases expensive to operate? My assumption is that they must be.

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by jbs2886
Mon May 14, 2018 3:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018
Replies: 279
Views: 40589

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

The first B773ER to be modded, N863DA, did a test hop at SIN yesterday (click on the green tab!): https://www.flightradar24.com/DAL9985/115ea13b I think you made a typo as N863DA is a 777-200ER not 300ER DL does not fly the 300ER. I did! I realized when it was to late to change it! I've flown on mo...

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by jbs2886
Mon May 14, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JAL May Launch new (Long-haul) LCC by 2020
Replies: 28
Views: 2523

Re: Japan Airlines to start new Long Haul Low Cost airline

Interesting news, but pretty vague. I expect it to be akin to ANA's Air Japan to compete in vacation markets (and against the A380).

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by jbs2886
Sat May 12, 2018 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 589
Views: 54429

Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

[twoid][/twoid]

_AA_777_MAN wrote:
Looks like Iceland Air has added some extra frequencies. Was this ever announced?


How many? When? Source?

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by jbs2886
Fri May 11, 2018 6:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 589
Views: 54429

Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

United787 wrote:
Nice and new but a little drab an generic... Generican Airlines you might say...


Its a 5-8 regional jet gate expansion at a major airport, they aren't going for the "wow" factor. That would be needlessly expensive.

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by jbs2886
Wed May 09, 2018 2:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines mulls over orders this year for 13 B787s and 6 A350s
Replies: 20
Views: 4675

Re: Ethiopian Airlines mulls over orders this year for 13 B787s and 6 A350s

Aren't we still waiting on the 77X order (that was previously A350-100s and before that, 77Xs)? But, that being said, I would be happy to see an additional order by Ethiopian, their growth has been fascinating. I'd be very curious how the airline is doing financially.

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by jbs2886
Wed May 09, 2018 1:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue plans move of MEX slots from LAX to BOS&JFK
Replies: 31
Views: 3825

Re: JetBlue plans move of MEX slots from LAX to BOS&JFK

santi319 wrote:
Out of AM vs B6 I see AM pulling out of BOS (they have before).

I never understood why they never started JFK flights to begin with - the market is HUGE.


This is unlikely with the AM/DL JV.

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by jbs2886
Tue May 08, 2018 11:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 219
Views: 51849

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Without Leahys famous 5th quarter ( or 13th month to call it ? ) it will be tough to catch Boeing. Well Airbus got a 400+ aircraft order at the end of last year after Boeing leading all year. Never say never. But both have huge backlogs so a light year won’t be so bad. Though Boeing have been great...

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by jbs2886
Tue May 08, 2018 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 565
Views: 73965

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

Boeing has revealed it's monthly orders for April, the AA order turns out to be rather interesting. http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries American Airlines - 25x 787-9 Boeing Capital Corporation - 22x 787-8 So AA will lease 22 787-8s from Boeing. Could this be a stopgap measure befor...

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by jbs2886
Sun May 06, 2018 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The MSY Thread - 2018
Replies: 395
Views: 30330

Re: The MSY Thread - 2018

You can pay to access the SkyClub and United lounge Not SkyClub, unless you're ticketed aboard DL or a partner. Even annual SkyClub members will be required to have a 006 ticket, starting in January. Policy: A Single Visit Pass must be used in conjunction with same-day ticketed air travel on Delta ...

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by jbs2886
Sun May 06, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The MSY Thread - 2018
Replies: 395
Views: 30330

Re: The MSY Thread - 2018

DJSNOLA wrote:
there absolutely needs to be a third lounge that you can pay to access


You can pay to access the SkyClub and United lounge...

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by jbs2886
Fri May 04, 2018 10:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska swaps 737 Max 8 orders for larger Max 9
Replies: 23
Views: 4148

Re: Alaska swaps 737 Max 8 orders for larger Max 9

Was kind of hoping for a large order, but I guess we will have to wait.

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by jbs2886
Fri May 04, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas orders additional 787s, sets 747 retirement date
Replies: 135
Views: 23649

Re: Qantas orders additional 787s, sets 747 retirement date

Can we not have 787 deferred costs debates in EVERY 787 order thread?

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 11:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA drops ORD-PEK
Replies: 137
Views: 17736

Re: AA drops ORD-PEK

Does Cathay still fly out of ORD? Sure! Once daily: CX807, departs 3:30pm, arrives HKG 8:20+1 How come when I go to search for it, it only shows connections via LAX? We don't know how you are searching so we can't answer that question. Are you searching to book a flight rather than schedule? Are yo...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 10:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA drops ORD-PEK
Replies: 137
Views: 17736

Re: AA drops ORD-PEK

With UA having their primary/dominant hub at ORD, and them having a much bigger Asian presence than AA, I never understood why AA flies ORD-BEK/PVG when it can't even do routes like ORD-CDG year round. I do seriously wonder if PVG will be cut as well, and what the future of Asian flying on AA out o...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA drops ORD-PEK
Replies: 137
Views: 17736

Re: AA drops ORD-PEK

Gotta love this statement....... AA’s move to end Beijing service also raises the question of how much international traffic a market like Chicago can support, even as Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel moves forward with plans to build out a massive new international terminal as part of a $8.5 billion, mu...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 10:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA drops ORD-PEK
Replies: 137
Views: 17736

Re: AA drops ORD-PEK

I thought MU planned to operated that route for awhile. I don't see UA jumping on that route either way (Even CA can't make IAH-PEK work daily). The only path for AA dropping ORD-NRT, IMO, is if additional US slots open up for HND. There are definitely premium demand on that route anyway. As for OR...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Qantas orders additional 787s, sets 747 retirement date
Replies: 135
Views: 23649

Re: Qantas orders additional 787s, sets 747 retirement date

Qantas current schedule for July 2018 Origin Code Destination Code Airline Code Alliance Equipment Code Flights Seats BNE LAX QF oneworld 744 7 2,548 SYD HND QF oneworld 744 7 2,537 SYD JNB QF oneworld 744 7 2,515 SYD LAX QF oneworld 744 1 364 SYD SCL QF oneworld 744 4 1,456 SYD SFO QF oneworld 744...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 6:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 589
Views: 54429

Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

Some AA ORD news: From ORD: Daily winter seasonal service to HNL and four new routes to the Caribbean: AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS Are these really daily? Historically, it seems like AA typically doesn't like to overfly MIA to the Caribbean which puts AA at a disadvantage to UA at ORD who seems to have a lo...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA drops ORD-PEK
Replies: 137
Views: 17736

Re: AA drops ORD-PEK

jayunited wrote:
I think the biggest announcement that was missed but is tucked away in the article is AA will relaunch ORD-HNL seasonally (winter season) utilizing a 788.


"Winter season" is a stretch, its basically a few weeks.

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 207
Views: 21952

Re: American Airlines Network Thread 2018

Announced to employees today, AA is implementing the following network changes: - Cancelling one ORD-CUN flight and will upgauge the two remaining flights from a B737-800 to a B787-8. - Seeking a dormancy waiver to end ORD-PEK effective 10/20. - Adding a daily winter seasonal ORD–HNL flight on a B7...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 589
Views: 54429

Re: Chicago Aviation News - 2018

Some AA ORD news: From ORD: Daily winter seasonal service to HNL and four new routes to the Caribbean: AUA, GCM, NAS, PLS American will seek a dormancy waiver from the U.S. Department of Transportation to discontinue its service between Chicago O’Hare International Airport (ORD) and Beijing Capital ...

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by jbs2886
Wed May 02, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 207
Views: 21952

Re: American Airlines Network Thread 2018

Announced to employees today, AA is implementing the following network changes: - Cancelling one ORD-CUN flight and will upgauge the two remaining flights from a B737-800 to a B787-8. - Seeking a dormancy waiver to end ORD-PEK effective 10/20. - Adding a daily winter seasonal ORD–HNL flight on a B7...

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by jbs2886
Tue May 01, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air Canada Delays Delivery Of 11 737 MAX
Replies: 47
Views: 9832

Re: Air Canada Delays Delivery Of 11 737 MAX

Getting rid of the A321s, replacing it by new MAX -10 aircraft would mean surrendering mid range cargo capability Which might be a very good idea, or might not be a very good idea. It would create new bulk loading jobs though :thumbsup: https://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/DSC...

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by jbs2886
Tue May 01, 2018 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018
Replies: 279
Views: 40589

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

Right. All sorts of things change in the airline biz in just a year or two. So many moving parts, yet aircraft are high-fixed-cost, very-long-lead items that also require lots of sunk costs to bring aboard (pilot training, maintenance training, procedures, parts, and on and on). But even with those...

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by jbs2886
Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The MSY Thread - 2018
Replies: 395
Views: 30330

Re: The MSY Thread - 2018

I'd love a Shake Shack. I fly through JFK T4 just to stop at one. Cane's would seem to make a lot more sense than Chick Fil-A due to Sunday operations.... I like chick fil-a but i dont understand them for an airport if they arent open on sundays? Except they are in a lot of airports anyways, even i...

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by jbs2886
Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aeromexico 777 Retirements
Replies: 19
Views: 6911

Re: Aeromexico 777 Retirements

N745AM is now wearing her new Norwind livery and plying the skies out of SVO using registration number VP-BJG. I like the Nordwind logo. So, two 777s ended up with Austrian, one with Nordwind and the fourth? Etihad? PIA? LATAM will wet-lease some ex-SQ examples for a while to substitute those Boein...

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by jbs2886
Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CSeries orders and possible orders for 2018
Replies: 70
Views: 13918

Re: CSeries orders and possible orders for 2018

Red Wings orders 6 CS300s for 2019 delivery. Though the story is a little confusing as to whether these are new orders (by State Finance Leasing Company, the apparent lessor). https://newsroom.aviator.aero/red-wings-orders-six-cs300s-for-2019-delivery/ Other reports are clear that these are leased ...

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by jbs2886
Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian reports strong growth in a seasonally weak first quarter
Replies: 39
Views: 4489

Re: Norwegian reports strong growth in a seasonally weak first quarter

Point to note, "Norwegian Air cancelled 6 787-9 thus their total 787-9 ordered went from 19 to 13 with 6 already delivered and 4 airplanes scheduled for final assembly over the next 9 months or so." Source: http://nyc787.blogspot.sg/ IIRC the "cancellations" were really shifting...

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by jbs2886
Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders
Replies: 219
Views: 51849

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2018 Orders

Southwest orders 40 more MAX 8 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-26/southwest-jet-order-to-give-boeing-its-biggest-737-max-fleet Deliveries from 2019-2022. Of note, AA deferred 40 MAX 8's with deliveries from 2020-2022. Edit to add that this is in addition to the 40 options exercised ...

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by jbs2886
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian reports strong growth in a seasonally weak first quarter
Replies: 39
Views: 4489

Re: Norwegian reports strong growth in a seasonally weak first quarter

The airline carried 7.5 million passengers in the first quarter, an increase of 12 per cent. The capacity growth was 36 per cent and the load factor was 84.5 per cent. Only 12% more pax on 39% capacity growth? That seems staggeringly low. If that's truly the case, talk about flooding the market wit...

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by jbs2886
Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian reports strong growth in a seasonally weak first quarter
Replies: 39
Views: 4489

Re: Norwegian reports strong growth in a seasonally weak first quarter

Interesting: "Going forward, the company is in the process of divesting up to 140 aircraft, including future deliveries, through replacement of older planes as well as possible sales or transfers into a leasing structure. The company will also review strategic opportunities for the loyalty prog...

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by jbs2886
Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: Jetblue E190 Decision imminent and Europe news?
Replies: 195
Views: 30059

Re: Jetblue E190 Decision and Europe news

unusualattitude wrote:
The OP is playing a game of I have a secret... he started the thread without really adding any substance.


Yea, its obnoxious to be like "I have news! But won't tell you!" Clearly gets he can't say anything, but has to tell people he knows something.

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by jbs2886
Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Having Problems with Airbus Aircraft
Replies: 77
Views: 18384

Re: Alaska Having Problems with Airbus Aircraft

How at AS suddenly having problems with A320s VX never had problems with? Sounds to me like they're being negligent in integrating the Airbus fleet or have some alternative motive to relieve themselves of their orders. Are there any other airlines experiencing "premature wear" on their A3...

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by jbs2886
Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AirAsia X won't buy "too expensive" Airbus A350: Tony Fernandes
Replies: 301
Views: 39231

Re: Air Asia X cancels A350. Decision on fleet expected later this year.

juliuswong wrote:
AirAsia X team is currently now in the US. Can't say anything more than that. 787 souvenirs distributed in office recently. Does it constitutes to anything? I can't comment.


You can't because you don't know? Or you can't because you know and are not at liberty to say anything?

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by jbs2886
Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 4/15/2018: WS Drops YYC-DFW/ORD, BOS-YUL; UA Adds IAD-PBG; AS Trims More Transcons
Replies: 104
Views: 10977

Re: OAG Changes 4/15/2018: WS Drops YYC-DFW/ORD, BOS-YUL; UA Adds IAD-PBG; AS Trims More Transcons

DL JFK-ATL JUL 8>7 DL JFK-BCN NOV 1.0>0.9 DEC 1.0>0.9 DL JFK-DFW OCT 1.8>3 DL JFK-EDI NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 DL JFK-FCO NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 DL JFK-MAD NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 DL JFK-PBI OCT 1.0>0 DL JFK-PUJ NOV 1.1>1.4 DEC 1.5>1.8 DL LGA-GSP JUL 1.3>3 AUG 1.7>3 SEP 1.7>3 OCT 1.7>3 NOV 1.7>3 DE...

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by jbs2886
Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 4/15/2018: WS Drops YYC-DFW/ORD, BOS-YUL; UA Adds IAD-PBG; AS Trims More Transcons
Replies: 104
Views: 10977

Re: OAG Changes 4/15/2018: WS Drops YYC-DFW/ORD, BOS-YUL; UA Adds IAD-PBG; AS Trims More Transcons

Yes but that fact remains Delta had them listed as daily and reduced them so they are showing less demand than Delta anticipated. It was just a filler schedule, Delta didn't anticipate anything. These changes are 7-8 months out, current bookings are not going to indicate what the demand is eventual...

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by jbs2886
Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)
Replies: 139
Views: 19591

Re: 767 Fleet/Subfleet Activity (2018)

On the more negative side of things, American Airlines has thrown in the towel on the 767s. The reliability was disastrous. It tried to put two frames through complete overhaul to fix that. Looks like the cost/time was outweighed by a sweet deal for new 788 frames. The remaining 24 AA 763ERs will b...

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by jbs2886
Sun Apr 15, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 4/15/2018: WS Drops YYC-DFW/ORD, BOS-YUL; UA Adds IAD-PBG; AS Trims More Transcons
Replies: 104
Views: 10977

Re: OAG Changes 4/15/2018: WS Drops YYC-DFW/ORD, BOS-YUL; UA Adds IAD-PBG; AS Trims More Transcons

DL JFK-ATL JUL 8>7 DL JFK-BCN NOV 1.0>0.9 DEC 1.0>0.9 DL JFK-DFW OCT 1.8>3 DL JFK-EDI NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 DL JFK-FCO NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 DL JFK-MAD NOV 1.0>0.7 DEC 1.0>0.7 DL JFK-PBI OCT 1.0>0 DL JFK-PUJ NOV 1.1>1.4 DEC 1.5>1.8 DL LGA-GSP JUL 1.3>3 AUG 1.7>3 SEP 1.7>3 OCT 1.7>3 NOV 1.7>3 DE...

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by jbs2886
Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 565
Views: 73965

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

To me it sounds like AA exercised their purchase rights based on 2013 order. Many people here claim that AA didn't used their options and I disagree that. The use of the word "amended" implies that this is based on the original 2011 purchase agreement. So it could just be a case of Corpor...

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by jbs2886
Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order
Replies: 565
Views: 73965

Re: American Airlines orders 47 additional 787's (22 788's and 25 789's), cancels A350 order

What you bolded makes it sound a new order, what are you trying to get at here? To me it sounds like AA exercised their purchase rights based on 2013 order. Many people here claim that AA didn't used their options and I disagree that. The use of the word “additional” in that statement and the lack ...

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by jbs2886
Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago Aviation News - 2018
Replies: 589
Views: 54429

Re: Chicago aviation news - 2018

When will Delta add ORD to LA? Because this is long overdue. Its the perennial answer: where are the gates? Or what flights are eliminated? The move to T-5 will be good for Delta at ORD. It'll be good for Delta so they can expand at ORD, I think we can see Florida flights from it like Jacksonville,...

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by jbs2886
Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta and Korean sign JVA
Replies: 606
Views: 71251

Re: Delta and Korean sign JVA

Anyway, back on topic - would be surprised if, following the trend of DL's VS and AM JVs, DL didn't add or at least substitute DL metal in the ICN market. Also, I believe there's talk as to whether or not one or two key fifth freedoms can be moved from NRT to ICN (notably - SIN) Would the JV cover ...

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