I absolutely cannot imagine AS trying to compete on TATL out of SEA unless either (1) it is as part of a JV or (2) it is to currently unserved vacation-heavy markets. They will get beaten to a pulp if they try to go head-on against the three carriers already flying SEA-LHR or the SkyTeam fortress r...
Jump to postWith HA adding HNL-SLC i'm wondering if DL will add a flight or two or just let HA lose $$ on another route. They already added a second daily flight for the winter, running from 11/6-3/29. https://kutv.com/news/local/delta-airlines-adds-new-daily-nonstop-route-from-salt-lake-city-internationa-airp...
Jump to postI’ll believe that when I see it. Agreed. In fact, I think AS will redeploy most of the Hawaiian wide bodies to be based out of AS and perhaps out of some West Coast hub and grow out of that/those hubs and maybe even attempt some Europe routes perhaps? Do people really think AS is going to start fly...
Jump to postNK adding LAX-SEA, starts July 10 1x daily, A321neo https://www.google.com/travel/flights/booking?tfs=CBwQAhpFEgoyMDI0LTA3LTEwIh8KA0xBWBIKMjAyNC0wNy0xMBoDU0VBKgJOSzIDMzU4KAAyAk5LagcIARIDTEFYcgcIARIDU0VBGkUSCjIwMjQtMDctMTEiHwoDU0VBEgoyMDI0LTA3LTExGgNMQVgqAk5LMgMzNTcoADICTktqBwgBEgNTRUFyBwgBEgNMQVhAA...
Jump to postNK adding LAX-SEA, starts July 10 1x daily, A321neo https://www.google.com/travel/flights/booking?tfs=CBwQAhpFEgoyMDI0LTA3LTEwIh8KA0xBWBIKMjAyNC0wNy0xMBoDU0VBKgJOSzIDMzU4KAAyAk5LagcIARIDTEFYcgcIARIDU0VBGkUSCjIwMjQtMDctMTEiHwoDU0VBEgoyMDI0LTA3LTExGgNMQVgqAk5LMgMzNTcoADICTktqBwgBEgNTRUFyBwgBEgNMQVhAA...
Jump to postI saw a story on SimpleFlying today about Swiss adding IAD to its network, and that it now serves eight U.S. cities. So it got me to wondering if at some point in the future (whether near-term or long-term) if SEA might possibly get onto their radar for flights to ZRH. Maybe, or maybe not. I know t...
Jump to postObviously subject to change this far out but LH tentatively plans to increase SEA-MUC from 3 weekly to daily for S25.
https://x.com/IshrionA/status/1777135098480984285
F9 adding SEA-DFW, 4 weekly effective 6/14:
https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-a ... -airports/
I had read somewhere (probably somewhere on A-Net, albeit quite awhile ago) that SEA was on CPH's top-10 wish list. Would love to see SK give it another try. I think CPH would be a good add for 2025 or 2026, either on SK or DL metal. AI to DEL is the only other likely addition I can see for this ye...
Jump to postSEA-CKG on HU just got the green light as well, it opened for booking starting 5/16, 1 weekly on Thursdays as expected. https://x.com/aeroroutes/status/1775290410208047378?s=20 If I'm counting right that'll be the 7th new international flight for SEA this year (LH/MUC, AS/YYZ, TPE x3, PR/MNL, HU/CKG...
Jump to postEva, China Airlines and Starlux will be hurt by this move. The high capacity Philippine 777s will reduce the number of passengers connecting in TPE. TPE is a main connecting point for people flying from the US to the Philippines. I don't think this move will affect JX too much (they just pulled out...
Jump to postAny idea when CX will resume Seattle-HKG service? It was permanently cut in November 2020, they've given no timeline on a possible resumption since then. I'd have to imagine they're a bit hesitant to return right now with JX/CI/PR to contend with, though I could see them coming back eventually once...
Jump to postSeems LH has taken the hatchet. - FRA reduces from daily to 6x weekly - MUC reduces from daily to 3x weekly Amazing to think that DE is going to offer more capacity on SEA-FRA this summer! Despite the frequency cut SEA-FRA is still being upgauged to the A340-600 this summer which is much more premi...
Jump to postFilipino media is reporting that PR might be eyeing SEA service again, though the article is a bit vague on details so take it for whatever it's worth. https://business.inquirer.net/452746/biz-buzz-pal-ready-for-takeoff-to-seattle It'd be nice to get another foreign tail here if this comes to fruit...
Jump to postFilipino media is reporting that PR might be eyeing SEA service again, though the article is a bit vague on details so take it for whatever it's worth. https://business.inquirer.net/452746/biz-buzz-pal-ready-for-takeoff-to-seattle It'd be nice to get another foreign tail here if this comes to fruit...
Jump to postThe question is with what aircraft? Likely metal are PR 's loaned A359 s to LH if/when those return. A 789 order doesn't seem immediately forthcoming and could take two years to deliver - unless the airline picks up a couple or so from a lessor. The A350K may be too much capacity to start a seconda...
Jump to postThe route's launch was placed in doubt after UA complained to the DOT that they should get approval for a second daily GUM-MNL before PR could launch SEA; it appears to be moot now since they received approval for SEA-MNL last year. The question is with what aircraft? Likely metal are PR 's loaned ...
Jump to postFilipino media is reporting that PR might be eyeing SEA service again, though the article is a bit vague on details so take it for whatever it's worth. https://business.inquirer.net/452746/biz-buzz-pal-ready-for-takeoff-to-seattle It'd be nice to get another foreign tail here if this comes to fruiti...
Jump to posthttps://business.inquirer.net/452746/biz-buzz-pal-ready-for-takeoff-to-seattle Looks like PAL is going to be launching Seattle services sooner or later after all. Probably once the A350-1000s arrive next year? It was like first heard off in 2020, but like, why'd this announcement suddenly vanish? T...
Jump to postNot sure if it’s been reported here yet but Singapore/SQ is increasing SEA-SIN from 3 -> 4 weekly starting June 2. 4th flight already on sale - adding Sunday’s (to T/Th/Sa existing both directions) to the schedule. https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240401-sqns24 If I'm not mistaken that should be a re...
Jump to postJX just officially announced SEA-TPE and put tickets on sale, it'll be 3 weekly to start beginning on 8/17. I peeked at their schedule to see what connections they had at TPE and it's a bit anemic at the moment (only SGN/HAN/BKK/SIN work in both directions with reasonable layover times), but TPE-SE...
Jump to postJX just officially announced SEA-TPE and put tickets on sale, it'll be 3 weekly to start beginning on 8/17. I peeked at their schedule to see what connections they had at TPE and it's a bit anemic at the moment (only SGN/HAN/BKK/SIN work in both directions with reasonable layover times), but TPE-SEA...
Jump to postitsasmallworld wrote:Any word when the SEA flights will go on sale?
Spirit adding (resuming) PDX-ORD, 6x weekly, starts May 8th (flights not operated on Tuesdays): https://www.google.com/travel/flights/search?tfs=CBwQAhosEgoyMDI0LTA1LTA4KAAyAk5LagcIARIDT1JEcgcIARIDUERYegNQSFiQAXhAAUgBcAGCAQsI____________AZgBAg&tfu=EgIIAyIA&hl=en-US&curr=USD https://www....
Jump to postI was able to find the January 2024 LF statistics on the Port of Seattle's website, so here's how some of the international carriers did out of SEA then. My other sources (AviationDB and the BTS website) update rather slowly and seem to be somewhat inaccurate, so we'll see if this goes better. Note...
Jump to postI was able to find the January 2024 LF statistics on the Port of Seattle's website, so here's how some of the international carriers did out of SEA then. My other sources (AviationDB and the BTS website) update rather slowly and seem to be somewhat inaccurate, so we'll see if this goes better. Note ...
Jump to postPer the jetBlue thread, looks like LAX-SEA will be permanently cut. Can't say I'm surprised that they aren't able to find their place in such a competitive market. When was the last time jetBlue actually flew this route? They don't seem to be flying it currently. They last flew LAX from May to Octo...
Jump to postIf I were DL, I would have launched TPE from DTW as opposed to SEA. There is still significant demand in the East and South of the US to TPE and they would have to lay of the land as opposed to being in a four way race where they are certain to finish in 4th place. After all, SEA-TPE O&D is abo...
Jump to postMentioned on the UA network thread, UA will be up to 4x daily on IAD-SEA in Jue/July/Aug. That route has 4x UA, 4x AS, 2x DL, not to mention 2x DCA-SEA and 3x BWI-SEA (2x AS, 1x WN). That's a TON of capacity on the DC-Seattle market... IAD-SEA was 4x/day on UA for a while pre-COVID with a 777 on on...
Jump to postTalking out of ignorance here, but SEA/TPE have a combined population of 11-ish million people (Taiwan itself has 24 mill); wealthy populations; tech-centered economies. Isn't it sufficient for 4 carriers to cover the route? that's just O&D markets. Good point, ultimately, it is not the number ...
Jump to postLooks like SEA's 2024 peak season is starting to wake up a bit. I noticed Aer Lingus restarted DUB-SEA. On Flightradar24, I noticed two TK aircraft coming to SEA today...an A350 and a 787 right behind it. FI upgraded their equipment to mainly 757-200's from 737-8's, with an occasional 763 thrown in...
Jump to postIn hindsight, the current state of this route is really making me question why Delta was so against trying PDX-HND, or even bidding another city (JFK, 2nd DTX/ATL, BOS, SLC, hell, even SFO). Sure, this route has the potential to succeed, but with the amount of capacity that's popping up in such a s...
Jump to postDon't forget that JX has a partnership with AS. That contribute JX to being successful at SEA. Nevertheless, it will be interesting how all three of these airlines will try obtain market share...and how BR will maintain its market share. CI works with AS as well. AS is just a wild card here. While ...
Jump to postI find it remarkable that there has been no SEA-HKG nonstop since CX dropped it in 2020 after lasting barely a year, I think. Although the US-Mainland market is completely unrecognizable post-COVID, suffering from major political posturing, even before CX's 2019 launch I have long been surprised th...
Jump to postDL will last 1 year max. If they gave up on LAX-LHR this quickly I’m sure they won’t have much patience for this either. As I have said many times on a.net, just because something works for UA internationally doesn’t mean it will work for others. In this case, UA has SFO, the crown jewel of TPAC. M...
Jump to postCI schedule from Jul 14: CI 22 TPE-SEA 2330-1950 359 D12467 CI 21 SEA-TPE 0140-0505+1 359 D12357 They pulled CI 16/5 from SFO in addition to the new aircraft. Entry dates: DL > CI > JX. Wow! That’ll make for a peak of 25 weekly SEA-TPE flights this summer up from 7 in S23, mind-boggling. Interestin...
Jump to postSome Hainan news, now that China/US frequencies have been expanded again. HU will resume PEK-SEA-PEK flights from 4/2. Initially 3x weekly, until 5/9 when one frequency is moved to start Chongqing CKG-SEA 1x weekly! HU will continue it's existing 3x weekly PEK-BOS-SEA-PEK flight. All pending typica...
Jump to postWhat ever happened to PR (Philippine) coming to SEA? I wondered that myself, especially when UA got the authority for GUM-NRT (or HND, I forget). I thought that was a condition for PR to start MNL-SEA flights. Maybe, they changed their mind. I was not aware of such an odd condition. Do you know why...
Jump to postI wondered that myself, especially when UA got the authority for GUM-NRT (or HND, I forget). I thought that was a condition for PR to start MNL-SEA flights. Maybe, they changed their mind. they got rid of a lot of aircraft during covid So maybe someday. They got approval from the DOT last year to o...
Jump to postWhy do the TPE flights leave in the middle of the night when most East Asian destinations leave late morning/early afternoon? Almost all of the North America-TPE flights on BR/CI have historically been scheduled that way, I think it's done that way to facilitate easy connections to southeast Asia a...
Jump to postYamDreaming787 wrote:Starlux officially launching SEA-TPE, 3x a week starting August 16th, 2024.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240307-jxaug24sea
BR is planning on increasing SEA-TPE to 10 weekly over the summer now. Strikes me as part strong Asian demand, and part retaliation against DL and possibly JX/CI if one/both of them confirm plans to start SEA.
https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240306-brns24sea
Currently on a standard Thursday: 5x CLT (all 321s) 8x DFW (all 321s) 2x LAX (all CR7s) 1x MIA (321) 3x ORD (all 738s) 2x PHL (all 321s) 3x PHX (2x E175, 1x 319) Thank you. Seventeen 32X seems way too light for a pilot base. Twenty mainline seems very light for an FA base, too. Currently AA has mor...
Jump to postCurrently on a standard Thursday: 5x CLT (all 321s) 8x DFW (all 321s) 2x LAX (all CR7s) 1x MIA (321) 3x ORD (all 738s) 2x PHL (all 321s) 3x PHX (2x E175, 1x 319) I think AA does MIA 2x seasonally. Let’s see if I can list all the destinations that AA has dropped from SEA for fun: NRT, BOS, JFK, AUS,...
Jump to postDamage control. I’ve got it on good authority that intl flights are coming back (new destinations) and the crew base is still in the cards although not certain. Is AA going to do SEA-BLR after all? I don’t think it’s ridiculous like some others do, especially if they pick up tons of west coast conn...
Jump to postI think this may have to do with stage length. The shorter flights from SEA to LAX and PHX are using regionals, so mainline flying is all 4+ hour stage lengths. That likely means that every flight to SEA involves resting the crew in SEA, which is a lot of hotel rooms. Hotel costs in the summer mont...
Jump to postYep daily a330neo. Have a hard time seeing it’s doing very well though. At the same time DL added it back, AA added a third daily and UA added a second daily, as well as BA adding a frequency. This summer LAX-LHR has 12 daily flights, and that’s not even counting Norse to LGW. Imagine fares won’t b...
Jump to postNK adding PDX-BWI effective 5/8, a bit out of left field IMO but nice to see that gap filled nonetheless. I wonder if AS will respond with a flight of their own, considering their renewed interest in expanding PDX as of late.
https://twitter.com/BWI_Airport/status/ ... 8540292482
F9 adding SEA-ONT in May, nice to see SEA getting a bit more ULCC action. That route is getting a bit crowded now, currently for this summer it'll be 4x/mainline AS, 4x/DL Connection, and 1x/F9. https://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-airlines-announces-17-new-routes-across-multiple-airports--spanning...
Jump to postSo SEA will be going from 1 carrier on SEA-TPE to 4 carriers within a matter of months? Thought I read somewhere that CI will also be restarting SEA passenger flights in addition to JX and DL starting flights. Incredible increase in capacity if true, but who will blink first? I don't know if DL's a...
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