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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

End of an era indeed. Unfortunately I never flew on one of these.

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

FligtReporter wrote:

I Like IndiGo..Even though Im an AI lover but IndiGo is my fav LCC and its nice to see theur 4 planes parked at my base over night.

What is your base?

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 12:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Anyways it is for the banks to decide what to do with their NPA account, not the GoI That's theory, not in practice. Did you not read that the banks had to go to the Govt to discuss the potential haircut on loans to Jet? Banks don't work in isolation. Big decisions are always made by the Government...

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 11:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Civil Av minister reiterating that the govt will not bail out Jet Airways https://www.thehindu.com/business/Industry/no-plan-to-bail-out-jet-airways-real-estate-companies-minister/article27944557.ece I completely agree with the stance. So what's the next course of action? Will the Government contin...

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

https://www.thehindu.com/business/Indus ... 944557.ece

I completely agree with the stance.
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Civil Av minister reiterating that the govt will not bail out Jet Airways
https://www.thehindu.com/business/Indus ... 944557.ece

I completely agree with the stance.

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

VTORD wrote:
They already have a DEL-SYD-MEL. So 1 option is make that DEL-SYD and something like DEL-MEL-AKL or keep the flight and DEL-BNE-AKL along the lines of QF's SYD-LAX-JFK.


AI no longer flies SYD-MEL
I think it is DEL-SYD on 4 days and DEL-MEL on 3 days now

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 5:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

The most important thing that saved SpiceJet (besides the correct political affiliation of the new owner) was the Marans getting out before it was too late. Jet could and would have been saved had this been done late last year. NG prevented this, now its honestly gone too far to be saved. Also the ...

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by unrave
Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Does anyone else think that AI is making a huge mistake by Flying to Nairobo and Bali,which could have been profitible had they chosen to fly to Johannesburg and Auckland Instead ? Any route that AI flies is a mistake. When any AI pilot starts the engines of an AI plane anywhere in the world he/she...

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by unrave
Sat Jun 15, 2019 6:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

This seems to be a persistent issue with SpiceJet on certain specific rotations.

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by unrave
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Hey unrave u will like this...it's not aviation but still...https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/right-and-wrong/how-the-non-resident-indian/ BTW I am a resident Indian and I love AI. It gives us a cheap yet good option to fly abroad. Ha ha. I knew what article it would be. You have shared thi...

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by unrave
Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

No sane govt would interfere with a matter under investigation by ED and SFIO. Giving Indian carrier's rights to Gulf states because of lack of aircraft can only be a Gulf Emir's dream Things have changed. EK and SG are in a relationship now and SG will naturally lobby for increasing bilateral seat...

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by unrave
Sat Jun 15, 2019 3:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

But hey small town India gets a foreign flight and cheap fares. This has never been about cheap fares for NRIs - many of us are alliance captive and pay premiums to fly our alliance, be it coach or business class. But that story doesn't work for the remarks here. Lol what?! How many NRIs do you thi...

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

dtw2hyd wrote:


India's aviation future belongs to Modi Air(Luft) on its third life, presently known as SpiceJet for next five years.

Thankfully a bankrupt pauper airline like Jet Airways will play no role in that future. A major victory for Indian air passengers.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

avier wrote:
^^^It's high time AI is shutdown and not sold.

Our NRI overlords will go ballistic. For them the entire Indian aviation industry exists solely to indulge them with cheap tickets when they come visit us every year.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

RTI has revealed more than 203 employees of Air India under the sportsperson quota draw salaries but do not contribute anything to the airline
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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:29 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

killswitch13 wrote:
^^^ sardar civil aviation minister fulfilling his fantasies with taxpayers money

Hopefully AI is sold off soon and these taxpayer funded largesses come to an end.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

dtw2hyd wrote:
Did DGCA/AAI publish April '19 traffic data? Haven't seen any info. Interestingly high premium yielding airport is mum about April data and busy with tree saplings.

Know where to look and you'll get your answers. Hint: BLR continues to outperform HYD in most metrics

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 6:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

And you can't beat AI's sale J fares (plus their over 60 fares in J when they have them). You say that's a good thing! We resident Indian taxpayers end up heavily subsidising the annual pilgrimage of NRIs to the motherland. I don’t why few people like you are so cynical on this forum. What he means...

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

CaliguyNYC wrote:
And you can't beat AI's sale J fares (plus their over 60 fares in J when they have them).

You say that's a good thing!
We resident Indian taxpayers end up heavily subsidising the annual pilgrimage of NRIs to the motherland.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Breaking from their previous stance of buying ATR aircraft outright, IndiGo has signed deal with Chous Aviation for SLB of 6 ATR aircraft to be delivered this year.
In other news IndiGo has slowed induction of ATR aircraft owing to pilot shortage.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 3:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

If India is a "FULL" (your word) signatory to the Cape Town treaty/agreement, why does the lessor have to pay unpaid dues on the plane (outstanding fuel and airport charges borne by the plane) before the aircraft will be de-registered? As dtw2hyd commented, the whole purpose of CTA was to...

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

Antarius wrote:

Anyways, I'm done with this for good. Enjoy your failing airline and conspiracy theories and non-fact based quips.

And people lament why a.net loses so many posters and is left with quantity vs quality.


Don't let the ill informed trolls win.

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by unrave
Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

This thread seems to carry a lot blatant falsehoods masquerading as facts. Readers of this thread should know India is not a FULL signatory to the Cape Town treaty/agreement. Local courts still have a say on repossession, although things have improved since the days of Kingfisher. Remember: Always F...

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

99 aircraft of Jet Airways have been deregistered by DGCA so far

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

FligtReporter wrote:
unrave wrote:
blrsea wrote:


IndiGo has finally run out of patience. Great win for CFM. Big loss for PW


Isnt this the same type of Engines that AI's A321s have ?

It is the same type of engines that the neos operated by AI and UK have

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

CFM wins blockbuster jet engine order from IndiGo: Sources Engine maker CFM International is poised to announce one of the world's largest jet engine orders with a deal for more than 600 engines from India's IndiGo, industry sources said. ... The two sides are putting finishing touches to the deal ...

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by unrave
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.financialexpress.com/opinio ... s/1605836/
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Yet another article that highlights the gross mismanagement of Air India under the previous government

https://www.financialexpress.com/opinio ... s/1605836/

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

dtw2hyd wrote:

Isn't AI technically debt free?


FACTCHECK: It isn't. Even technically.

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

"We are interested but can't do it alone". Ha!

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I will mark your words and will come back to you if its still flying beyond the time frame you've mentioned :) ..though I wont be surprised if it does keep flying for Ive been hearing about its shut down for a long time now So lets wait and watch :lol: That account has a proven track record of pred...

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

IndiGo to launch daily flights on Delhi-Chengdu from 15SEP Doesn’t Spicejet operate this route? If so, my hunch is that Spicejet will be driven out. Indigo may be ruthless in selecting routes that also penalizes Indian competitors. By the way, what exactly does india’s Competition Authority do? 1. ...

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

IndiGo to launch daily flights on Delhi-Chengdu from 15SEP

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by unrave
Wed Jun 12, 2019 6:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

FligtReporter wrote:

Many indians would hate to admit but they secretly love indiGo i guess :D

I love successful companies that make money.
IndiGo is widely successful and makes a lot of money.

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.travel-industry-dictionary.com/capacity-dumping.html Not that I quite agree with this definition but how is this relevant wrt to 6E and 9W? One had 55% revenues from international ops and other had 5% Why just 9W? Did you forget SG had a near death experience a while back? Thanks to the...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://www.travel-industry-dictionary. ... mping.html

Not that I quite agree with this definition but how is this relevant wrt to 6E and 9W? One had 55% revenues from international ops and other had 5%
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avier wrote:
unrave wrote:
Please look up the meaning of dumping in a dictionary.


https://www.travel-industry-dictionary. ... mping.html

Not that I quite agree with this definition but how is this relevant wrt to 6E and 9W? One had 55% revenues from international ops and other had 5%

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

NG looks horrible but the banks and GOI look like they are bumbling along with no real way to restructure large companies without being accused of favoritism. Sorry, the banks and GOI have done a fantastic job so far. Not every company is worth saving. The banks are basically going to recover $0 th...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Without structural reforms in finance and aviation sectors, all airlines are just house of cards, ready to fall anytime. Vistara will be the lonely FSC for some time, but I am not sure it will in business for the next 25 years. With the fall of Jet the Indian airline industry is healthier than ever...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I just can't believe that Vistara isn't jumping in to a few key long haul flights like LON, HKG and on other EU hub where they partner with an EU airline for onward connections. I am all for being cautious but India's largest FSC just shut down. If now is not the opportunity when will? Just take 5 ...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Without structural reforms in finance and aviation sectors, all airlines are just house of cards, ready to fall anytime. Vistara will be the lonely FSC for some time, but I am not sure it will in business for the next 25 years. With the fall of Jet the Indian airline industry is healthier than ever

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

CaliguyNYC wrote:

NG looks horrible but the banks and GOI look like they are bumbling along with no real way to restructure large companies without being accused of favoritism.


Sorry, the banks and GOI have done a fantastic job so far. Not every company is worth saving.

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

AIX has "96"(not a typo) permanent employees, AI has 11,000 permanent, AIX has 1000-1200 total, AI has 17,000 total, including contractors. Vistara is the only other airline in India can match AIX in employee efficiency. 6E actually the worst performer in employee count. PS: Numbers are a...

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by unrave
Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

edealinfo wrote:

They brought in 5 new planes (4 737s and 1 A320 neo). The new routes don't seem too much to warrant 5 planes. Did they not also increase flights for existing routes?

You should follow route announcements more closely.

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by unrave
Mon Jun 10, 2019 2:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

CaliguyNYC wrote:
Vistara needs to find A US and EU airline that is willing to do a deep partnership like DL/AF/KL/VS did with 9W

What is the "deep partnership" that you speak ok?

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by unrave
Mon Jun 10, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Government Approved Jet Airways Reboot Version 3.0
Replies: 13
Views: 1945

Re: Indian Government Approved Jet Airways Reboot Version 3.0

I am amused by the optimism. If you actually believe Jet is going to take to the skies in July, I have a bridge that I am interested in selling.

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by unrave
Mon Jun 10, 2019 4:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

Some BLR stats
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by unrave
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

https://twitter.com/sandeeprrao1991/status/1136976731066134529 After 1 month IndiGo has restarted Bengaluru-Phuket flight, this time with a much better timings. Arriving at Phuket around noon, which looks perfect IMHO. Bookings have reopened. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8daTqCVsAABNMg.jpg

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by unrave
Fri Jun 07, 2019 1:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

I do have resentment towards entities which forget their core business and turn themselves into a Data Analytics and/or PR freakshows. EK, 6E, Tesla(non-av) are few examples. EK and 6E are highly successful airlines, unlike 9W and AI Dumping data on the public is not going to make them any better, ...

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by unrave
Thu Jun 06, 2019 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

devmapper wrote:

:confused: why would the unions care? If the route is profitable, why would the unions care if they have to spend a day in a hotel in a large Indian city?


Those are just alternative facts from a parallel universe. Best avoided.

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by unrave
Wed Jun 05, 2019 4:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019
Replies: 459
Views: 21851

Re: Indian Aviation Thread - June 2019

dtw2hyd wrote:

BLR is a numbers run airport. ;) ;)

BLR is a much more profitable airport than the white elephant that is HYD

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by unrave
Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways: Shutdown
Replies: 1539
Views: 154803

Re: Jet Airways: Shutdown

... I don't know what to say about your idea that the government whole and sole goal was to destroy Jet and now it it is upon it to resurrect it from dead. -R One would think, for a 3T Disney dollar economy, USD3.3B annual revenue company is worth saving. Who are we kidding? BTW, No one is asking i...

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