Re: Harwich factory to make jet fuel out of faeces in world first

Please tell that to US carriers so they are not stingy with food! You don’t mean the infamous vegetable purée that United (or was it American-never mind) used to serve on JFK-ATH route. But wait, I have my Oxford dictionary at hand. “Manure: animal dung spread over or mixed with soil to make it fer...

Re: Harwich factory to make jet fuel out of faeces in world first

In Indonesia they make coffee from cat poop. But it is processed so well that is high quality and expensive. So why you are averse to the idea of aviation fuel from a similar source? After all, kerosene itself is very distilled and purified.

Re: 10 Years Ago Today: MH370

But folks are missing the whole point. More than closure, even if there is a slight (how ever slight it is) glimmer of hope in getting to the bottom of this...the authorities would want to take it, in the hopes of trying to find out what happened and hope to prevent it in the future. Honestly, if c...

Re: United flight loses main wheel departing SFO

In early 1987, at ATH, a Malev TU-154 started its take-off roll from the east side of the airport and as it lifted off towards the West Terminal of Olympic Airways, a wheel came off just like the UA incident and bounced towards the ramp. That time it was a 737 engine that paid the price, not cars in...

Re: MH 370 - Fisherman Comes Forward with Surprising Revelation

rj777 wrote:

Hard to believe that in just a few short months it will have been 10 years since this event!

Re: Mystery Airbus A300 in the Jordanian desert

Thanks for the info, although you would’ve thought that flying it into Jordan , would have been a lot easier? And needlessly more expensive if they had bought a flyable A300. And, what for? They want it for drills. So, they chose the cheapest alternative, two stages before scrapping, that is, wings...

Re: Greece Aviation - 2023

Those bulky handbags again...with the unacceptable straps. And the steward’s suit without a collar? How is this acceptable? Ask anyone you like who knows five basic things about fashion. The usual dull blue-black. I do like the blue in picture no 4 but I keep wondering what they put in those handbag...

Re: AA6209 hit a bus at O’Hare

As a person who has worked at the ramp of an airport myself, I notice that all of you are trying to exonerate the driver. I have seen a couple of serious incidents in my time at ATH by 2-3 drivers and my colleagues used to say that we had to be careful with one of those. Drivers have a natural tende...

Re: Ural Airlines A320 emergency landing in a field in Siberia due to hydraulic problems

It could get damaged during the soft field take off after having endured a soft field landing including the stresses of the gear sinking in before. I was actually wondering if they would smooth out a "runway" then wait for winter to freeze the ground. I've read elsewhere that is indeed th...

Re: Another 767 buckled fuselage hard landing

I‘m just thinking, and sorry, this is off-topic, but a C-5 bouncing. This must be quite a sight. :shock: The C-5A Galaxy is a different kind of animal as the slogan goes. It won’t bounce and it won’t buckle. Such extreme conditions do not exist. Now as for the 767 chances are they won’t bother, giv...

Re: SQ sued over "slobbering, farting" dog

As a Dog lover, I would of loved to sit next to this dog, hell I would of even shared my food with the dog if the owners let me. Why don’t you travel with your girlfriend instead and spoon-feed her? Or, do you mean in your enigmatic statement that airline food is so overrated that is fit only for d...

Re: SWISS cabin crew in trouble for taking selfies on a 777 wing

It’s because they cannot do that themselves. It is a privilege of the crew. So, they would rather have a grumpy crew that do not enjoy their business and treat them as a nuisance.

Re: Air India gets ready to reveal new livery and branding in August

People here keep repeating that they like the new livery. Fine. An airline can decorate a plane or a tail but all this work here is decorative and does not present a real airline sign. For example, Qantas could not replace the Kangaroo, JAL could not kill the cranes and Olympic could never square th...

Re: Bear escapes crate in hold of Iraqi Airways plane

After reading the stories about dogs and bears, let me tell you what happened roughly 25 years ago with a dissatisfied cat customer. The ramp agent put two animals in no 1 hold, one dog and one cat both in their crates. Why he was not prudent enough to keep them at a safe distance? Because on the 73...

Re: Kalitta 747 run off runway in Ningbo

If I see well the front wheel did not shift back to normal? Oh, if only all runway excursions were as simple as this one!

Re: UA871 returned to SFO due to Economy pax refusing to leave Business Class cabin

It would cost much less to have one security staff on long distance flights to confront such customers than to turn the plane back and spoil everyone else’s journey just for discipline reasons. Not even charter companies do such « drills » to their passengers. Business-wise it does not make a lot of...

Re: Spirit FA Videos Pax Prohibited From Using Lav, Forced to Use Cabin Floor

I came here to read the comments. It is obvious that two obstinate persons battled it out. Like the other guy who was flying the « Friendly Skies » and was dumped because he complained about the food. The passengers survived. The spirit died.

Re: Video released of UA 737 wing tip strike at LGA in 2016

...... because there was (in essence) a tailwind while making a right turn onto final, not only was your groundspeed higher, but you had to turn to a fairly accurate wind correction angle or it would become quite the wild ride that last ~700 feet, all the while the factoid that 7 degrees of bank in...

Re: Time to talk about.....old airlines!

The thread has accumulated 284 replies previous to this one. Interestingly, 84 was the code Boeing used for Olympic Airways. So, if the variant was -200, for example, Boeing 747-284, 737-284 or 727-284 this would mean the first operator of a specific aircraft was Olympic. Also of interest is to note...

Re: MH370 trunnion door found off Madagascar

In my humble opinion they have found it long ago. The trick is to pretend they cannot. What a wicked story! In this day and age it’s extremely difficult to believe such a secret could be kept Military secrets can indefinitely. For example, only last November I saw a video on YouTube about TW800 and...

Re: MH370 trunnion door found off Madagascar

AEROFAN wrote:

ikolkyo wrote:

It will never not blow my mind that a 777 has simply vanished and no one can find it. Just insane.

Truly bizarre

Re: Is a 747-SP-SUD-BCF possible?

Although it is only hypothetical, an upper deck stretch in the likes of a 747-400 or better a 747-8, would make the SP look like a mini A380. Could somebody do it in the computer, please. Make it in Olympic airlines colours. What better way to mark my 400th post in my 8th year of membership? Thanks!

Re: Examples of Government aircraft in livery of national airline?

Let me add another example that happened thirty years ago: In the early nineties the Greek government decided that an Olympic airways 727 could be considered redundant and be converted into a VIP transport. After all, the airline was national and that meant a lot, right? So it got a full VIP interio...

Re: CDG to be temporarily renamed

I don't think it'll be anything more than a disabled person's name being trotted out for a week and then everything is back to normal with nothing having changed, other than ADP having a new paragraph to put in its quarterly reports about how socially conscious they are. Maybe a more fitting tribut...

Re: Hellinikon (Athens to become city park

24Whiskey wrote:

How the country has allowed the area to deteriorate into the state it is in for 20 years should be a crime.

Re: Hellinikon (Athens to become city park

Even though Saarinen's airport terminals were great, ATH always seemed like his weakest one. I don't mind seeing it bulldozed Don’t judge a book by its cover, my friend. You should have seen it when it opened in 1969. I saw it when I was ten, one night in 1970 and it was like a marble palace like t...

Re: LATAM A20N ground collision during takeoff run at LIM

I’ll just guess that if the starboard wing isn’t tweaked or the spars aren’t bent and if the structure around the starboard main gear isn’t too bad, they’ll probably fix it. The aircraft’s only saving grace is its age. Not only its age, there is another factor: Availability of the model. If they ha...

Re: Hellinikon (Athens to become city park

I am not sure about whether they will be broken up. Not just yet. It is rumoured that something good is about to happen but we’ll have to wait until mid January to have some more definitive proof. Certainly the “developers” or whatever they really are, are far from friendly and some political interv...

Re: LATAM A20N ground collision during takeoff run at LIM

Now let’s move on to another point: The first video showing the removal of the aircraft from the runway is showing on Facebook. Sorry I cannot upload but the question is: Do you think they will bother to repair this plane? The whole operation seems very diligent and careful - the plane sits on a lon...

Re: LATAM A20N ground collision during takeoff run at LIM

I do not want to quote anyone but as you can see in posts either #24 or #45 (same video), the fire trucks rush towards the runway while the Follow-me vehicle is actually Following-Them. This was a breach of safety, correct? “Safety in the air begins on the ground” was the motto in whatever training ...

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

Out of all the previous cases of pilot suicide, .......MH370, Royal Air Maroc, Silkair...... there was zero diagnosis or observation that the perpetrator was suffering a mental illness prior to the incident. How do you know that MH370 was pilot suicide? Just asking. By the way when there is a priva...

Re: Greek Aviation Thread - 2022

Have you seen where LGAT is located? Actually I lived near the threshold of taxiway 33L, so I grew up with airplanes. Ellenikon was friendly to aviation enthusiasts, one could watch aircraft movements from many different spots. There were even hotels that took advantage of that, like the famous Emm...

Re: Greek Aviation Thread - 2022

You have a point. But LGAT could have expanded in the sea (land reclamation). Interestingly, the oblique runway that could be extended towards the water had the same orientation (03/21) as the runways at LGAV. So why did they not go on with this plan? It would have been an easy and inexpensive solut...

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

D L X wrote:

Pilot suicide was already leaked by NTSB folks. That is it.

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

There is a known flaw in fly by wire airplanes: the rear horizontal stabilizers are vulnerable in electric malfunctions or ice conditions when the auto pilot is engaged. Perhaps when the pilots regained control shortly before the end, they pulled up so hard that tail snapped off due to excessive ten...

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

To imply that Boeing is somehow responsible for that, and is bribing CAAC to remain quiet, is a far wilder theory than suicide. It also implies there is something wrong with the aircraft, that Boeing wishes to conceal. So really difficult to understand why you would believe this, which has never ha...

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

Depends on how you interpret it. And if, IF this is the last thing Boeing needs now, wouldn’t they take action to have the report postponed indefinitely? They certainly would. So your theory is that the Chinese are being restricted by Boeing from releasing the data? That has to be the mother of all...

Re: China Eastern 737-800 crashes in Guangxi, southern China

If their investigation showed even a hint of a problem with the aircraft, China would have taken action and would have publicized the information because of the damage it would do to Boeing's already damaged reputation. Their silence definitely speaks volumes. Depends on how you interpret it. And i...

Re: Dreamlifter Loses a Wheel in Italy

If you think that was something, I mean the wheel crashing into a vineyard and squashing some grapes, let me narrate you an incident which happened in 1987 at Athens Ellenikon airport. A Malev Tu-154 lifted off the runway and as the undercarriage was folding (6-wheel bogies) and getting into the whe...

Re: Air France Pilots Physically Fight in the Cockpit

Somebody further up wrote: «It is bad they were only suspended. They should be fired and banned from ever flying again... » And when an old drunken lady demands champagne and whiskey and attacks the steward and slaps him on the face she is right, absolved, excused and exonerated. And she will defini...

Re: Antonov crash outside Kavala - Greece

Greece itself is not immune to potentially disastrous air tragedies involving urban near misses. The Olympic 747 is a good example. It was not a near miss, it was rather a close shave low and slow with some TV antennas flying all over the place. SX-OAA was not the flagship of the Olympic fleet for ...

Re: Pair of very tiny windows on the Boeing 720?

Some details do matter after all. Tall people must have been able to look out while it could have helped others to avoid claustrophobia. One is never too old to learn about the Boeing 720.

Re: Turkish Airlines to rebrand into “Türkiye Havayolları”

AMP44 wrote:

Livery would still look quite smart if they keep it.

Re: Turkish Airlines to rebrand into “Türkiye Havayolları”

Perhaps they mean to say they feel so established and secure in their position that it is high time we all learned a little Turkish.

Re: Updated: Brussels Airlines New Livery

It looks like a product you could buy in the pharmacy. Wrong associations. I wonder what message they are trying to convey. Perhaps the public relations department has issued a statement or not? Clearly this is not an airline sign.

Re: DHL 757 off runway at SJO

B737MAX wrote:

Flat like Funchal?

Re: DHL 757 off runway at SJO

Re: Condor launch new livery

First Lufty, now Condor. What seized them? It is just their desire to cause a sensation, that’s all folks! They will grow out of it. De gustibus et de coloribus non disputandum.

Re: updated: MH370 claim: breakthrough?

Latest updates: as per following link, it seems that Ocean Infintiy is offering to resume the search in 2023, a map of the new search area has been published as well: https://www.airlineratings.com/news/comprehensive-credible-new-report-published-showing-mh370-location/ Sooner or later they are bou...

Re: updated: MH370 claim: breakthrough?

I really wish the people who know nothing about Malaysian politics would stop trying to push the idea someone would kill themselves and hundreds of others - for no obvious gain except to make some kind of point - because of a poltical scuffle which is quite run-of-the-mill over there. We are on the...