Re: 787 Derivative for MoM

Re-engining the 767 is straight out of the McDonnell-Douglas playbook and it is doomed to fail strategically. The 767 has a dog of a wing with an airfoil that is similar to the original 747. One can get by with a poor performing wing when fuel prices are low, but with the effort to move to sustaina...

Re: 787 Derivative for MoM

Because, as with the original passenger version, it couldn´t match the A330. The exact point of a MOM plane is to not match the capabilites of the gigantual long-haulers. The point is to deliver fewer passengers over a shorter (but not short) distance with a superior fuel economy/trip cost. This ca...

Re: 787 Derivative for MoM

Interestingly, there already exists a 767-variant that has a 787-like cockpit. If Boeing can do it for the KC-46 tanker, can they not do it for a civil variant as well? https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2011-09-26/rockwell-collins-provides-kc-46a-cockpit-details With Boeing's lac...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q1 2021

That is pretty damning! Will this lead to further criminal charges against individuals within Boeing, or are these fines the end of it? Is the case now settled?

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Taken from the news and reference thread. https://www.faa.gov/news/media/attachments/19_035n-R3-8-3-20.pdf How difficult will it be to make these changes to the aircraft already constructed. How difficult will it be to make these changes to aircraft which are under construction. How difficult will ...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, Q3 2020

Taken from the news and reference thread. https://www.faa.gov/news/media/attachments/19_035n-R3-8-3-20.pdf How difficult will it be to make these changes to the aircraft already constructed. How difficult will it be to make these changes to aircraft which are under construction. How difficult will ...

Re: United Launch Alliance - Tests, Launches, News, Developments

Independent review of Boeing's Starliner complete, with a total of 80 recommendations: https://www.nasa.gov/feature/nasa-and-boeing-complete-orbital-flight-test-reviews/ 21 of these recommendations pertain to improving testing and ground simulations, including the notable addition of an end-to-end ...

Re: Norwegian Air Cancels Orders For 92 737 MAXs and 5 787s

So why did they not cancel the A321LR order? Doesn;t matter... i hope Airbus aint takin a check from them! Bouncy bounce bounce bounce! Give it time. Right now they had an excuse for both the MAX and the 787-9: * MAX Delays / Certification / Grounding * 789 RR Engine problems, causing Manintenance ...

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

Someone83 wrote:

SAS has sent out termination letter to 700 out of 1200 cabin crew based at CPH

Re: Five BA 747s to Teruel today

kjeld0d wrote:

keesje wrote:

KLM & Qantas grounded their 744 fleets this week. 744 passengers operations are coming to an end quickly.

Which types did 9/11 effectively end in terms of passenger service? I count 747 classic, 727, dc-10, md-11, what else?

Re: AirBaltic going all Airbus A220 - smaller carrier

Sokes wrote:

I will never understand how an airline (or at least flag carrier) can have only one type.
Do they intend to switch A220-300 for A220-100?

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, March 2020

Now, remember that 737 MAX RTS has been "right around the corner" since May 2019. Since then, the program has been set back by * Public scrutiny towards the FAA and Boeing, bringing an end to "self-certification" * New demands from the FAA - documentation and procedures must be r...

Re: Accelerating aircraft retirements

For SK (SAS) three A343 just left the fleet, and the remaining four are parked. I wonder if they will ever fly commercially again.

Re: DY about to go bust?

on Sky News in the UK today they mentioned that there is talk of the Norwegian Government nationalizing Norwegian. Does anyone know more? Is it seriously being considered? No chance in Hell. This is as far fetched as if the Tories in UK would nationalize RyanAir - an Irish company. :shakehead: Norw...

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2020

After just over 20 years with SAS, LN-RNO, is returned to the lessor and sent for scrap. 22 737-700 left in the SAS fleet, with 1 stored Boeing 737 -783 28316 476 LN-RNO SAS ferried 09mar20 OSL-DGX, for part-out & scrap ex OY-KKR Do you know how many 737-700s that will exit this year?

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, March 2020

In these contracts, when can Airlines walk away from it, cancel and demand the full amount of their pre-payments back? How long can Boeing put them on hold?

Re: United Launch Alliance - Tests, Launches, News, Developments

Apparently NASA has 61 items for Boeing to address: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/nasa-finds-61-corrective-actions-for-boeings-starliner-spacecraft.html Also Boeing has set aside/took a charge of $410M to cover a potential second full-up test launch if required. Tugg How the mighty have fallen! W...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounding, General Discussion Thread, March 2020

Can the COVID-19 kill the 737 MAX production ? The scenario is a such major airlines collapsing that annihilate so much orders than the Airbus capacity to deliver the A32x neo obliterate the production of additional 737 MAX. The risk is probably very low now as to happens the remaining orders need ...

Re: Boeing CEO: NMA will "start with a clean sheet of paper again"

I haven't seen this link posted upthread, and I have to wonder if this is the direct reason for Boeing taking a step back; it is too late anyway: https://www.anna.aero/2019/12/04/united-airlines-orders-50-a321xlrs-to-replace-757s-to-europe/ So I think Boeing have now conceded that ~80% of the Replac...

Re: AA sues DL over the use of the term “Flagship”

2019: AA sues DL over the term “Flagship”
2020: AA sues UA over the term “Premium” (as in “Premium Economy”)
2021: AA sues DL over the term “Business” (as in Business Class)
2022: AA sues WN over the term “Economy”
2023: Anonymous Alcoholics sues American Airlines over the abbreviation AA.

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

Can someone tell me why the MAX was a bad idea? I mean to me it makes perfect sense for them to developed it. It was a bad idea because it's totally outdated design , it looks absurd and has misfitting parts like engines. It was just a financial short term decision and a purported cash grab at the ...

Re: Crime and Corruption (add incompetence) At Boeing

What other purpose does a company have than to please the shareholders? I have seen this argument so many times and it is just pure, unadulterated BS. Does anyone for a second think that William Edward Boeing one day woke up and said: "I had a vision! I was surrounded by shareholders who deman...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q4 2019

I am getting increasingly hungry for details about Boeing's fix. Any leaks, inside information, anoyne?

Re: Boeing examines GEnX powered 767

lightsaber wrote:

Ok, for a 767MAX to compete:
1. Electrical subsystems, saves about 3% in fuel
2. Updated cockpit. The 764 is fine, there is better

lightsaber wrote:

3. Updated wing tip treatment

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

The Greta Effect

Re: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service

Would a 777-8 freighter have a significant performance gain over a 777-200 freighter? Would there be an increase in range or payload worth mentioning?
Also, over a 3000nm distance (common for freight?) would the fuel saving be significant?
Should Boeing just scrap the 777-8 altogether?

Re: Leeham: 14 new airplanes and derivatives see EIS through 2027. ??

Should we really count the E-190 E2? The plane entered service with WF months ago. I thought “new“ in this context means “not yet certified”.

Re: Only a matter of time...Trump turns on Fox News

Impartiality Rules? In Britain? That’s laughable! BBC had a 95 - 5 ratio in airtime negative to Brexit vs pro Brexit prior to the referendum. How is that abiding by “impartiality rules”? That's laughable. But feel free to post some analysis to support your 95-5% bias claim. :scratchchin: Both sides...

Re: Only a matter of time...Trump turns on Fox News

Impartiality Rules? In Britain? That’s laughable! BBC had a 95 - 5 ratio in airtime negative to Brexit vs pro Brexit prior to the referendum. How is that abiding by “impartiality rules”?

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q3 2019

Boeing pays out to relatives of Crash Victims: https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2019-07-03-Boeing-Pledges-Support-to-Families-Communities-Affected-by-Lion-Air-Flight-610-and-Ethiopian-Airlines-Flight-302-Accidents At least Boeing seems now to have moved on from the stance that "we hold no blame&quo...

Re: Federal Prosecutors Expanding Boeing Investigation to CHS 787 Production Site

The FAA is responsible for certification of aircraft, whether they pass some responsibility to the company or not. The buck stops with them. It's not only possible, its probable there is an issue within the FAA. There has been massive turnover at all levels of the FAA in recent years. I have to dis...

Re: Paris AIr Show 2019: Other Manufacturers and Engine News and Orders Thread

And what will be the differnce between an STOL ATR 42 and a standard ATR 42? Any technical details already available? Well the S will need just 2600ft to take off so Well yes, but how will they achieve this? More powerful engines? Rockets à la Hercules? Rubber band? Just asking... Yes, they will us...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

[ I'm 100% sure the Boeing engineers could build a best plane in the world. Those guys went to the moon already 40 years ago. The problem is that the flying public expects to fly on a dime. No wonder planes crash. That's what you get with this money. "Boeing" did not go to the Moon 40 yea...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

The American Airline pilot union is blaming Boeing for the second crash: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/05/23/business/american-airlines-boeing-pilots-union/index.html Shame they don't follow this thread. Then they would have learned that it's all about those 3rd world pilots and their lack of traini...

Re: KL 744 phase out discussion thread

Thank you for that post, Iemand91. Those pictures sure take me back in time!

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Ertro wrote:

What about a theory that the lack of observed warnings seen on a display device that pilots thought was present could send a false negative indication convincing people that there are no problems with the AoA related systems.

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Does anyone have a current estimate of how much the grounding has cost Boeing so far? I would like to compare those numbers to how much it would have cost Boeing in penalties, had they designed MCAS v2 from the Get-Go, plus included AOA disagree for every plane with no extra 100K fee for this "...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Yet that's not how things work for any aircraft currently in service. It's clear the A320 is much more automated than the 737 is, yet even it is "certified with the system and pilot working together" and Airbus does not take on the burden of determining if the pilots are trained to the po...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/how-much-was-pilot-error-a-factor-in-the-boeing-737-max-crashes/ The lead Republican on the US House Committee, relying on a study essentially financed by Boeing stockholders, announces just about all the problems were with poor pilots, as oppo...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

And doesn't make any sense, especially because the FAA doesn't appear to require any sim training for MCAS 2.0 -- see discussion going on around near the end of previous page. There is no good way to explain away the botched MCAS 1.0. Either: - Boeing engineers did not interpret the regulations pro...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

International regulators & airlines will not easily let B off the hook from sim training to re-certification etc. They, except the FAA, can now rightfully say they were lied to by B. If they let Max fly again without very tough conditions & it crashes again, they can rightfully be accused o...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

So according to your maths the blame should be 99% Boeing, 0.9 % Airlines, 0.1 % pilots or your maths are just an other attempt to exonerate Boeing? I wish People would stop assuming I find Boeing blameless. My Whole Agenda has been to point out that the training system has been sorely lacking and ...

Re: Boeing 737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q2 2019

Today's news puts Boeing in a very bad position. They knew months before the Lion Air crash of the warning light malfunction and decided that since it could be fixed in the next software update they would just wait. They did not notify airlines or government agencies. They have serious legal risk n...

Re: Nordic Aviation - 2019

Does anyone know: Will the A350s for SAS be used for route expansion, or replacement of older A340s ?

Re: Embraer E2 Testing/Production Thread - 2019

Wikipedia: "The E195-E2 (EMB 190-400) will be extended by three seat rows from the E195 by 2.85 m (9.4 ft), and will accommodate up to 146 seats." Sounds like an ideal 737-700 replacement to me. 146 seats = 3 cabin crew, very similar to 73G capacity. SAS has their "all-Y" 737-700...

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I am sure the Max will be flying again, and with the FAA / EASA joint requirement for Simulator training for MAX transition, MCAS v2 update etc., I am confident in the end it will be safe for us, the flying public.(I am still a little curious/worried about the reconfig of cutoff-swithces from NG to ...

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

If you want to worry about something - worry about the Engines on MAX and NEO - the failure rates on both are way higher than they should be - a loss of two of them on one flight is not inconceivable and with the demonstrated lack of airmanship in newly trained crews worldwide I would not be that c...

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Why is it arrogant? That implies the crew did something wrong. ("Because the other crew managed to save plane in the same situation"). Not arrogant, factual. The ET crew did do something wrong. They did not follow the procedure outlined in the EAD. They moved the trim switches to cutout b...

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

According to a Canadian Press article being carried on CTVnews.ca, Canadian Transport Minister Marc Garneau says any airline operating MAX8 into Canadian airspace will be required to include simulator training. If true, this confirms earlier WSJ reporting of a possible break with the FAA, and possi...

Re: Airport Berlin-Schönefeld (SXF) currently closed because of an accident

Thank God they have BER ready to take over...