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Re: First ANA A380 rolls out of final assembly

I find it highly unlikely that Airbus had any influence on the decision if ANA or Delta would get Skymark. Airbus were the second-largest creditor at the time of Skymark's insolvency. Being a creditor means nothing if no one wants your aircraft. That's like saying AA/UA/DL would accept the A380 to ...

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PhoenixVIP

Re: First ANA A380 rolls out of final assembly

If it helps you accept that this interpretation is credible, I'd suggest you take a look at the mainstream press accounts from the time. As a starting point here's an excerpt from a Reuters article published in August 2015: TOKYO (Reuters) - ANA Holdings Inc has won creditor backing to lead a turna...

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Re: First ANA A380 rolls out of final assembly

BA, AF, Lufthansa, Korean all manage to make healthy profits on their A380s, do they not? While I wouldn't say another 8, 3 or 4 more could work well once the current deliveries provide some hard data Airlines don't break out profits by route, but we can tell a lot from the general environment the ...

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Re: First ANA A380 rolls out of final assembly

So you are claiming that those 3 A380s will be loss-making for ANA? They must have been very desperate to make such a “terrible, terrible, bad deal” (TM orangeman) to please Airbus...... I think these three will be loss making and was the price to pay to keep DL out of HND so is somewhat justified....

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Re: Why are most colour schemes of Chinese airlines so ugly?

Here in China the branding of airlines is based purely on name and perhaps logo. General public doesn't cares about how pretty the outside looks when making a choice. Highly subjective thread; perhaps we can start a AF has the worst livery in the world, or JL has the worst livery in world, etc. Some...

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Re: Bathroom cleaning on long haul flights

PRC carrier flight attendants are trained and required to clean the lavatory. This is depending on the stage of the flight. For example on a long haul flight (ie. 10 hours) after the first meal / refreshment there will be a large amount of traffic and they may clean during and/ or after this period....

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Re: Air China CA1350 suspected hijack - 15/4

Photos circulating on our social media Weibo... the flight was never hijacked (no entry gained into the cockpit).

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Re: CZ A380 almost off the runway due to unbalanced thrust

Comments from PlaneCookies and sw733 are plain fake news and show they have no idea how the industry work here in China. Should we stereotype that Singaporean pilots are the worst after they left 222 passenger onboard when SQ368 had a burning wing that could have ignited the fuel onboard causing cat...

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Re: Airbus Working With Emirates on New Order for Flagship A380

Just looking on Beijing to Shanghai. China Eastern and air China already operates shuttles with mostly 330s 787 and 777s. The only way to upgauge from that would be to vla. If passenger count double in 15 years between the two cities, what else can they operate? Same with Beijing to Guangzhou, it i...

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PhoenixVIP

Re: Airbus A350 Production And Delivery Thread - Part 17

What happened to CA #1?

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Re: Qantas to announce ambitious plan to fly East Coast Australia to London and New York by 2022

So payload and range are minor considerations on ULH flights? Ridiculous. The most capable plane in terms of payload and range is the 778. It cannot be argued otherwise. Maybe some day the A380 plus will be built......although that is highly dubious. Until then its a 778 or a heavily payload restri...

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Re: LH retiring most (or all?) A340-600?

The 346 was the Airbus attempt to polish a turd (i.e. the 340 was not a good design...so you make a derivative that is even worse). For LH the decision makes perfect sense. Why fly a 346 when you can fly a 359 with 30% or more lower operating costs? Why was the A340 not a good design? It was compro...

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Re: 16 out of 55 PW A320neo grounded

Often engine issues do appear during flight certification. I referenced the early 747 P&W issue as an example. Yes, it is certainly possible Airbus put thousands of hours on the PW1100G during flight certification under a myriad of conditions and flight envelopes with no issues. However, I find...

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Re: 16 out of 55 PW A320neo grounded

Kind of ironic considering how much crap Boeing got regarding the initial problems with the 787. This is very bad and clearly falls on Airbus. The engines have to be as thoroughly vetted as the frame itself during initial flight certification. The first 747's had major early engine issues and Boein...

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Re: Airbus CEO Enders Takes Direct Control Of Airplane Sales

In either case I feel pretty comfortable that my earlier statements that there probably was more to the story are turning out to be true Well then I'll say again - from where I'm sitting I've heard not a single peep about this story. I like how you quote yourself three times saying there must be po...

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Re: Hainan Airlines launches beautiful new uniform

Goes against the red and gold motif in their aircraft but one of the more exciting uniforms across the Chinese airlines

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Re: Qatar to cancel 4 A350s due to supplier issues

This is quite the blow to Airbus on top of all the deferrals the A350 has already suffered. Obviously Qatar has been unhappy with Airbus for some time considering the A320 neo engine problems and Qatar's response to that issue. I would say Airbus needs to do some major damage control with a very im...

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Re: China buys 100 A320s, 40 A350s

In short, Enders sees ann opportunity for some A380s in China too, but was not able to announce a deal with today's order. I wonder if there is a real possibility or if this is just marketing and stockmarket talk. China could probably absorb the capacity, tbh just 100 A320 is on the low side. 40 A3...

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Re: German group considering A380 part out

From the Article, their CEO says talks are continuing with 6 potential operators for the aircraft Sounds like their CEO is getting some coaching from John Leahy. The renewal has been looming for months if not years, the aircraft is due to be returned in a short number of weeks, and "talks are ...

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Re: UA won't ordering additional 77W aircraft, rules out A330neo

Pretty much useless trying to explain anything to you. Get used to the fact that the A350 likely won't be seen at UA at all. So you were the person who previously stated that UA had cancelled the A350 and ordered more 77Ws ? This thread contradicts your previous claim as UA have said they will not ...

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Re: Number of airplanes with StarAlliance livery

CA have 3. B-6091, B-6093 and B-2032.

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Re: Airbus is examining 'A380-Plus'

I think you and others are making a strawman ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man ) argument: saying something Boeing didn't say then using that false statement to poke holes into an argument that wasn't being made in the first place. hehe this is getting amusing. Honestly at this point of thi...

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Re: UA won't ordering additional 77W aircraft, rules out A330neo

None of that is really true. Airbus has updated the interior to make it look pretty nice, and the A330neo will have essentially the same cabin design as the A350. Oh, yes, it is objectively true. The A330 is stuck in the era of shelf bins, lower interior pressure, and small windows. Even the NEO is...

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Re: Interview with Amedeo's CEO Lapidus on A380

He presents the ANA-case as a reference project, where an airline operates just three airframes... If only he had some airline by the short and curlies, just like Airbus had ANA (buy the A380s or the HND slots go to DL)... Got any source/proof for that? No he/she doesn't so it's lies anyway. If the...

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Re: Chinese airlines liveries

What a totally pathetic reply and I'm not quite sure you know anything about marketing and brand image. Pathetic? I think should come to China and do some research. You're not even from our country and want to call me pathetic. When someone loses their argument they resort to that. I know plenty ab...

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Re: Chinese airlines liveries

Come on now. If liveries were as unimportant as you make it seem, everyone would be flying unpainted aircraft. Why maintain a livery with paint, titles, and logos when it means absolutely nothing? The livery is main aspect of the brand of an airline. It's the first thing people see before they walk...

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PhoenixVIP

Re: Chinese airlines liveries

Come on now. If liveries were as unimportant as you make it seem, everyone would be flying unpainted aircraft. Why maintain a livery with paint, titles, and logos when it means absolutely nothing? The livery is main aspect of the brand of an airline. It's the first thing people see before they walk...

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Re: Chinese airlines liveries

because liveries have no notable impact on customer preference and are thus essentially irrelevant in the eyes of everyone but enthusiasts. Come on now. If liveries were as unimportant as you make it seem, everyone would be flying unpainted aircraft. Why maintain a livery with paint, titles, and lo...

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Re: Chinese airlines liveries

China Eastern did change their livery, then lots of people say they hate the Eurowhite. Air China's livery is pretty much inherited from CAAC, so there isn't much they can do about it. Air China's livery is pretty much inherited from CAAC, so there isn't much they can do about it. WHY? I thought it...

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Re: Chinese airlines liveries

There's nothing wrong with the current liveries. The logo is the greater marketing tool used here along with the abbrieviated name of each airline. And you will always have general public, family taking photos of their aircraft (CA, MU, CZ etc) if boarding via stairs. MU went with the cheap and simp...

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Re: MAS changes A380 plans, again

I don't see how people can project a positive outcome. There's been charter airlines for a very long time, ones for religious charters as well as non-religious charters. None of them are very profitable, certainly not profitable enough to dig MAS out of the hole it is in. If it did become profitabl...

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Re: IAG CEO: The A380 can fit in Aer Lingus and Iberia

EI could probably successfully use the A380 for a few months during their peak Summer schedule and, if IB had a complementary winter peak, then shared usage between the two airlines might be a successful option. I feel however that the development of EI's Dublin transatlantic hub would be better se...

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Re: IAG CEO: The A380 can fit in Air Lingus and Iberia

So to make it clear, trying to buy something you do not have the money for, is an argument for the A380 is killing the airlines that are operating them? Skymark was dead before they had one A380 in the house. Again trying to waffle around having to bring a real argument or one fact. You asked for a...

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Re: SQ to Decide Between A350-2000 and 777-10 By Year End, CNN

Does SQ intend on replacing their oldest A380's with this aircraft? The five oldest SQ A380s will be replaced by A380s. They've been on order for a long time, the only question was if the five would be for replacement or for growth, and SQ has recently stated they will be for replacement and not fo...

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Re: Are PVG Delays Getting Worse?

As someone who just flew internationally twice from PVG in the last 30 days (and PEK) none of my flights were delayed. The military priority in China is one thing but this is being balanced well now. Airlines are often to blame for their own delays with sometimes ridiculous turnover times and not en...

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Re: A380 still has role within Singapore Airlines: chief

This IS the A380 hater. Notice the longest post defending A380 haters in this thread? :lol: Of course the A380 still has a role at SQ. The carrier has 5 new build A380s incoming and they spend a lot of money on a new cabin product. Don't forget the 5 was to replace and expand ops for SQ so there is...

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Re: Clark: The World Needs More A380's

That's confusing. Only because you're missing/ignoring the 5 most blatantly obvious words in the universe, when dealing with those factors: ...if ...you ...can ...fill ...it! Having lower per-seat costs doesn't do you any good whatsoever, if you're leaving with empty seats. And if you're having to ...

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Re: Clark: The World Needs More A380's

I fail to see how EK is wrong on this one. Public absolutely loves it - I talk daily to Americans that choose LH over any other US major solely for the A380 and absolutely loving it. Too bad US majors are missing on the plane. - Lufthansa would have ordered 16 more A380s if they weren't literally p...

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Re: SQ A380 Decision Based On Demand

Whatever the reasons this is a terrible indicator for the viability of the program. AB must be getting close to pulling the plug on one of the worst product development decisions of all time. Yes. The termination of a 12 year lease on the first A380 built that has poor economics is the indicator th...

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PhoenixVIP

Re: SQ A380 Decision Based On Demand

Hello to your usual A380 bash argument Let's skip over the personal attacks and keep the discussion focused on its content. So in fact it's a net increase of 4 frames so there goes your argument. I'm not sure how you say starting with 21 frames and ending up with 21 frames is an increase of four fr...

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Re: SQ A380 Decision Based On Demand

People on here make a big deal about SQ not renewing the lease on its first A380. The same reason why we like to get rid of our mobile phones after 3 years. Why keep it when you can get something newer and at the same leasing costs? And in this case the worst A380 produced so if you're getting 5 ne...

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Re: SQ A380 Decision Based On Demand

The point with Malaysian or SIA is, that they are not filling their A380s because EK is filling theirs. The former Malaysian CEO was quite direct about it in a recent interview. The airframe performance matches expectation, the additional connecting traffic does not. And for the rest, your point of...

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Re: Air China condemned over racism in London travel guide

If people truly believe in freedom and liberties then we should be able to say and do whatever we want without the fear of being labelled racist for comments that are not even considered racist. ..... Already has been covered many times by tree hugging green groups. That is part of our culture and ...

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Re: Air China condemned over racism in London travel guide

Just sitting in a MU 737 and just read in a Chinese newspaper that CA will remove the magazines and apologized Which is a shame really as I read my papers this morning. It is just to smooth over the situation to look good to a hysterical Western media (in particular the British) when really it is u...

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Re: Air China condemned over racism in London travel guide

@ PhoenixVIP: I know what you mean (straight-Talking) and maybe people not working/living in China misinterpret it. I lost weight and when I met a partner in China after one year he started with the words "Oh, Mr. N14AZ, you look so slim, last time you were soooooo fat " He simply explain...

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Re: Air China condemned over racism in London travel guide

In general the messages on social media here have been positive. In China we appreciate straight-talking. Not the rubbish political correctness gone right or wrong in other countries. In no way is it racist and nor does it say directly that they are responsible for crime but its explanation is to av...

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Re: Airbus to cut A380 production rate to 1 per month

If Boeing really knew what that the strategy in VLA was flawed they could have ceded the 748 territory immediately. Total straw man argument. Boeing never said there was no VLA market, they said there wasn't a big enough market to justify an all-new VLA. If you read the history you will find that B...

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Re: Airbus to cut A380 production rate to 1 per month

The A380 was never a poor idea in the 2000s indeed that and the 787 were seen as the two answer to what was perceived to be a problem in growth of the market at that time. If Boeing really knew what that the strategy in VLA was flawed they could have ceded the 748 territory immediately. It is ridicu...

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Re: PIC: First A350-1000 Pushes Back Out Of Hangar

The joke is all new planes look the exact same and airliners are boring as fook now. Thank you, Captain Obvious. And I agree that airliners are very boring these days compared to 20-30 years ago. However they don't look completely the same though. I think the A350 has too much going on. It's like a...

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Re: Different cultures' impact on behavior on-board

It's usually the Mainlanders with those poor mannerisms. Don't lump other ethnically Chinese with those. Easily there are equal proportion of other ethnic Chinese (and that includes Hong Kong or Macau or Taiwan or autonomous region) who are just are poor in manners, some perhaps worse than others. ...

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