vr773, right now and for the next 20 years there is one Western source of 5th gen AC.
Re 4th vs 5th gen AC survival rates in contested airspace, there is a real world test going on right now in Eastern Poland. NATO commanders can see the data for themselves.
Enzo011, did not realize the 777 was not suitable for JNB. Thanks for pointing this out.Jump to post
Interesting to SAA come up. How about the earlier deals for the 340's?Jump to post
Would the D8 concept form Aurora fit in to the MOM?Jump to post
Not sure if commercial deals were involved but if they were, Leahy knew.
Based on what Enders has said, I'm assuming commercials deals were tainted.
Items that contribute to corruption- government ownership, market concentration, multinational business( easier to firm shells and lax enforcement. If you want to deter corruption pass strict laws w huge fines and jail time up to the top. Assuming the article was correct many high level management s...Jump to post
Not sure how criminal investigations work in Europe but I doubt prosecutors will look favorably if AB pays people hush money.
A big if as now that they are one part of the duopoly they want to end the black payments.
I'd well believe it.
I'd also say any other airframe OEM is at the same. Too much money involved for there not to be all sorts of dirty dealing.
For the posters who maintain this is business as usual for the entire industry is there really evidence of this?
A good auditor looks very carefully at vendors that receive consulting fees over a long period of time. In the US it is very routine for auditors to interview purchasing and operational staff re payments to vendors. Assuming it's the same in Europe, these staff were told to lie to the auditor. Or th...Jump to post
Revelation, thanks for pointing out the role the current CFO played in revealing the corruption.
Telling that he was from the U.K.
Honest question; how are financial audits handled in Europe? Hiding $114mil is not easily done if the audit is thorough which leads me to believe this was not done by rogue parties w/i AB. Accounting and CFO types must have been involved or else the auditor was suborned. This could have an impact on...Jump to post
Yes 4 th gen fighter can survive in friendly, home airspace or air shows. Good luck defending, deterring or keeping that friendly airspace against a determined adversary who has 5 th gen ac and 400 series SAM batteries. 4 th gen ac are not safe in eastern Poland. Very much a pay me now or keep your ...Jump to post
Am I to understand that at least $114,000,000 bribes were paid between 2004 and the present?Jump to post
Using Scandinavian Airlines as an argument for efficiency is a poor choice. Low fuel costs will be around for another 10 years so used 330's might work.
If new AC are what they want, don't know how they can avoid the 787.
The attitude expressed by several posters asserting that bribes are just a normal cost of business gives us an idea on how prevelant this is in some quarters. In many parts of the world where there are not transparent legal systems corruption is a significant drag on society. Africa and LA in partic...Jump to post
Jayafe, asserting that a competitor is violating wto rules is not a crime. Paying bribes is.
I don't the merits of either case but I applaud Enders for trying to clean up his shop. It's good business and the right thing to do
I think the design will look conventional but will take advantage of the IP and experience producing the fuselage via the mandrel process to create a twin aisle craft with single costs. If BA can pull this off the their pioneering efforts on the 787 will be more than validated. If this can not be ac...Jump to post
Agreed, bad article but can we avoid a long what if thread about the 380 until next year.
I know nobody's got a gum to my head but heck just Ck all the previous threads of you need to get into this mud puddle.
I don't think the 788 will be very useful for shorter routes but there are lots thin routes between 7-10k miles that a 788 modified w 789 build features would be the ideal ac. It may not be a huge market but the 788 would own itJump to post
I'm struck by comments questioning Musk like those made by KarelXWB. While it certainly is true that not all what Musk hopes for comes to fruition look what he has accomplished is quite significant. He may not colonize Mars but if he does nothing else he has exceeded expectations. And don't kid your...Jump to post
Agree on availability. The PO must be trying to figure how much of the market will remain by the time they launchJump to post
Don't know if this story is true but the cultural diversity movement, like the larger political correctness movement is lie invented by the left at the Univesity to cover up the fact that free enterprise deomocracies, invented in the West has created more good than all other systems combined.Jump to post
Sure, ETF's and index funds are good especially if you don't have the time but sites like this and they exist for many industries give you high quality info to make very solid investments. For example look at all the info we have on EADS. The general investor thinks of AB for defense write downs, th...Jump to post
And at least 2 of us nonamateurs made a double in the last 17 months and have put our gains in EADS. Think like an owner instead of fan boy to profit from this site.Jump to post
sxf24, Exactly! Well said. The doom and gloom posts are written by people who don't run a business, don't risk their own money, don't know what it is like to make payroll, have never faced an audit and who missed out on the doubling of Boeing shares. The run up in share value is largely due to the r...Jump to post
Wow describes the wishful thinking some have towards a demise at Boeing. But A Net is an internet forum with the attendant low signal to noise ratio. Good news is that some posters are really knowledgeable but often they are only drawn out in response to wrong headed thinking. I think Boeing will wi...Jump to post
Insolvency? This term does not belong in a serious conversation about Boeing. Show me a company that has generated as much as cash as they have who was even close to insolvency. You all wax on like you have a clue when you have missed out on 60% appreciation this year.....not including dividends. Go...Jump to post
There is huge downside in being a Fan Boy; you make terrible investment decisions. Positive cash flow is very hard if not almost impossible to fake for a company that is scrutinized as closely as Boeing is. One can argue what they should have done with the cash given but the appreciation in the shar...Jump to post
Eyad89, I think you get my point.Jump to post
I think the 380 issues and costs are reflected into the current share price. Re the 320 I think AB have proved that they know what they are doing. I think the Chinese assembly line was a mistake but not material re the share price. What has held me back are concerns about the unknowns surrounding th...Jump to post
Folks, for those that have any doubts about the impact of the 787, look at the stock price performance over the past few years. As 787 deliveries have occurred and performance has been validated the value of the stock has increased because investors have a much better view of future earnings. Stock ...Jump to post
Between 767-300er and 330-200 there over a 1000 frames in service. Is it not the case that many of these will be replaced in the next 10 years? Does anyone doubt the 787 will get 90% of the 767 and 70% of the 330's? I was thinking the -8 would make the perfect ULH but the idea of doing a lighter fra...Jump to post
If it wont open new routes it wont be launched. Boeing is looking to offer a plane that makes money for its customers and new routes are a good recipe to do this. And Boeing have a track record of doing just this. How many posters asserted that the 787 would simply replace 767/330 on existing routes...Jump to post
RyanairGuru, thanks for the info re the amount of O&D between Houston vs Dallas.
I gotta believe sooner or later we will see a 788ULH to serve markets like US-Asia/India/Australia/NZ hubs to secondary city pairs.
ULH will be enhanced by long term low cost petrol.
I realize this is totally off the topic but it seems we need a small diversion.
Wasn't it Hawaiian's plan to plan the role of EK to Australia and NZ?
I think there is more energy related traffic between IAH and Australia than folks realize .
I'll admit to have done a bit of stretching in the galley.Jump to post
MOL, who runs what the classic disruptive company predicting the downfall of another disruptive force. To all the critics of both; why are you guys so aginst the underdog? Starting a business is full of risk. Imagine where we 'd be if no one was willing to take it on? Hint, paying legacy carriers 3-...Jump to post
Why unfortunately? I'd love option to pay less for a lie flat seat. I don't need all the privacy afforded by modern seats and don't need all the food and Booz. Take my medicine, put my mask on and I'm out for 7-8 hours . I fly my guys overseas all the time and none of us need all the mini suites now...Jump to post