While we’re on the subject. I see a lot of folks on here listing things that WN needs to change about their product. As I said earlier, the solution for not liking WN’s product is flying another airline. That’s what lots of us do. Now, that doesn’t mean WN doesn’t constantly need t be “reading the r...
Jump to postgosh if only Budweiser would bring back those "real American hero' commercials and salute *you*, the obsessive Airliners.net poster, for single handedly bringing the change we all need to function in the world...with assigned seating on Southwest Airlines. Bravo. I've been viewing (and occasio...
Jump to postThis just popped up on my Instagram. I thought it was a joke, but it’s a real thing. They’re peddling Bob Jordan Bobbleheads for $25.00 each… https://www.swathestore.com/swathestore/bob-Jordan-bobblehead/p-SWA0788 Also, looks like they’re paying another dividend: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/south...
Jump to posthttps://finance.yahoo.com/news/southwest-airlines-forecasts-first-quarter-113317805.html “Meanwhile, Southwest reported an adjusted loss of $226 million in the quarter through December, at a time when other major U.S. airlines such as United Airlines Holdings Inc and Delta Air Lines Inc reported hig...
Jump to postI definitely understand the safety aspect of the cabin crew needing to sit during turbulence. I’m only putting this out there because I do sense a change has been happening and not just because of the December disaster. I wasn’t sure if that was because of SLC being in the mountainous area or just ...
Jump to postNot just you. They pull that stunt all the time here in Texas. I’ve also had Southwest flights to/fromthrough through Texas where the FA will say “I really hope you don’t want anything to drink” and “you don’t want anything do you” followed by a put upon “well I’ll try” with a sigh and an eye roll ...
Jump to postIs it just me or are WN cabin crew doing less and less on flights (provide drinks and snacks), or is it just on the west coast?? And I mean due to the risk of turbulence, since moving to SLC it seems most of my flights by WN I had no service, not even a walk thru till it was time to land. Example I...
Jump to postIs it just me or are WN cabin crew doing less and less on flights (provide drinks and snacks), or is it just on the west coast?? And I mean due to the risk of turbulence, since moving to SLC it seems most of my flights by WN I had no service, not even a walk thru till it was time to land. Example I...
Jump to postI worry this won’t be the last meltdown, and I am not to sure this Christmas meltdown will be the catalyst for change. Leadership seems tone deaf to the serious fixes that need to happen at WN. It seems business as usual, the I am sorry to the customers and we love our employees playbook came out a...
Jump to postAnecdotal, but I’m looking at flights for trips in the 1st quarter of this year and WN out of DAL is considerably cheaper than AA out of DFW. WN appears to be losing the yield game at the moment in it’s home market.
Jump to postLetter from SWA's Chris Johnson to Ramp Agents at DEN on 12/21. As one commenter noted, "In these situations you give people the carrot, not the whip. Give folks double pay, overtime, whatever they want." https://twitter.com/ruthschmidt/status/1607460985861988352 Agree this memo is poorly...
Jump to postAWACSooner wrote:KBUF wrote:Have a trip booked with WN next month. Seriously considering switching to another airline.
Already did...utilized some DL credit to get my family and I from DFW to JFK and canx'd my WN DAL-LGA
Bottom line is Southwest lost control over its operation in a way that the three legacies did not. For years Southwest has arrogantly gone about touting how much “better” they are than the legacies. In December of 2022 I think we can all definitively say that Southwest has slipped and is now clearly...
Jump to post[twoid][/twoid] "Hey there, Southwest Airlines. Bob Jordan here… We love you all . I know it's hard and it's hard to feel, but I'm telling you, we love you …” “We love you” Good god. Was that real?? WN needs to immediately dispense with using “luv,” “love,” “heart,” “heartfelt,” and all of thei...
Jump to postSaw on LinkedIn, American’s COO kicking WN while they’re down lol https://www.linkedin.com/posts/davidgseymour_aateam-activity-7013316613785468928-oy2z?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_ios Never kick another airline in the nuts when they are down, you may be next! He actually didn't say one w...
Jump to postI don't understand the hyperbolizing in this thread. I agree that the situation is unacceptable, but the unfounded claims some are making are absurd. No, WN will not implode. No, Bob will not be fired. Yes, WN will recover in the coming days, and make necessary changes to prevent a meltdown of this...
Jump to postWhat are WN’s plans with PHX? They’ve added 8 gates and their hangar expansion is coming along nicely but they haven’t added any additional flying. PHX is still stuck at the 185ish daily departure number it has been for the last decade. WN is still facing a pilot shortage, which limits the flying t...
Jump to postSchedule release comes out in 3 days. What are some guesses that you think will come out? Or what would you like to see? Routes out of Texas that I would like WN to add/resume: ⋅ Return of WN DAL-BOS/DTW/CLE nonstop service (WN was originally planning on operating DAL-BOS/DTW/CLE nonstop ...
Jump to postDenver is nothing short of remarkable. I remember the day WN started with 6 (or was it 12) flights per day and now going to have 300 Plus. Terminal C was a ghost town. Frontier changed to their now very successful business model from what they had. United did not have the will to fight. Can you ima...
Jump to postWN will be operating 288 daily departures out of DEN in Summer 2023, and there have been discussions about WN further expanding at DEN (beyond what WN currently has out of DEN in Summer 2023) in the Airliners.net forums in the last 5 years. In Summer 2023, WN will have daily nonstop service out of ...
Jump to postThe Southwest Flight Attendants are doing informational picketing today in 14 cities including both MDW & ORD in Chicago. ' It was a day of action at several unions. United flight attendants also picketed at 18 airports. https://unitedafa.org/news/2022/9/13/day-of-action That’s true but it’s no...
Jump to postIt’s also big news in that WN went from being the gold standard when it came to management-employee relations to the company where pickets occur at “culture parties.” WN’s old “take care of the employees so they take care of the customers” mantra appears to be fading. WN’s labor relations are start...
Jump to postSouthwest flight attendants are picketing at Love Field today:
https://www.fox4news.com/news/southwest ... itions.amp
I'm thinking that Mr. Jordan was Frazzled by The Pilots picketing @ The Airport which is why his speech was so short. Well Played by The Pilots Union. It’s nice to think so but I doubt it. Everyone knew ahead of time the pilots were planning to picket. I agree that everyone expected it, but I'm wil...
Jump to postLooks like SWAPA has filed for federal mediation. How did Southwest go from the company that set the standard for labor-management relations to something that looks akin to the labor-management situation across town in Fort Worth at American? https://www.cbsnews.com/dfw/news/southwest-airlines-pilot...
Jump to postThere is an article titled "Is Hawaii Paradise or a Money Pit for Southwest Airlines?" on The Motley Fool's website at https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/09/14/is-hawaii-paradise-or-a-money-pit-for-southwest-ai/. Back when they ramped up DEN I always heard they were loosing money to quic...
Jump to postThis may be some “future proofing” on the part of United. If Amsterdam’s permanent caps related to environmental policy catch hold across Europe, those hubs will become less and less viable. https://www.traveloffpath.com/amsterdam-no-longer-wants-travelers-to-connect-through-its-major-airport/ UA w...
Jump to postNot sure I get it from United’s side to codeshare with them but it seems good for Emirates I don’t have a subscription for details but it’s pretty self explanatory for the major news. https://theaircurrent.com/airlines/united-and-emirates-plot-codeshare-agreement/ Just my 2 cents but this may be UA...
Jump to postThis may be some “future proofing” on the part of United. If Amsterdam’s permanent caps related to environmental policy catch hold across Europe, those hubs will become less and less viable. https://www.traveloffpath.com/amsterdam-no-longer-wants-travelers-to-connect-through-its-major-airport/ UA wi...
Jump to postI’ve been listening to “The SWAPA Number” podcast which is put out by the Southwest Airlines Pilot Association. This week’s episode (Monday, August 22nd - https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-the-swapa-number-49070009/) focused on Bob Jordan, labor-management relations, and culture. Unsurprisingly Cas...
Jump to postDoes anyone have stats to backup the idea that B6 did not do well at EWR? I have seen and heard the opposite from within and B6 does not open full-on bases on a whim. I keep pointing that out but some people just don’t want to see that. JetBlue is doing fine at EWR in my 11 years here EWR is the on...
Jump to postBack when this EWR/LAX/RDU expansion was announced, several of us said that B6 needed to concentrate on their core markets before overextending themselves. I specifically mentioned the RDU expansion, EWR-AUS and EWR-LAX as routes that seemed foolish in light of B6 already abysmal operational perfor...
Jump to postI don’t think they are being shrugged off. They are being given contex on why some of these things are happening. What other people are saying is that NEA integration and the number of Mint aircraft were known, or at least should have been, 12 months ago. So why were they so gung ho expanding into ...
Jump to postThe EWR network was decimated, not trimmed to reflect operational challenges. What destinations will be left outside of legacy Florida flying? That is a stupid strategy if B6 is presuming NK will grow and illegal if coordinated. Once again it has to do with the operation and terminal. You probably ...
Jump to postI feel like I am about to get an aneurysm listening to some of these lazy responses just to appeal to ones own bash B6 wagon. They are short staffed, United and American just cut a bunch of flying because of staffing issues, and a/c delivery issues. The priority is staffing the NEA flying which if ...
Jump to postAbsolutely. Many of the “suspended” routes seem to be in B6’s sweet spot of southbound VFR or east-west premium leisure. Either they can’t retain enough people to run the airline, or they can’t compete outside of JFK and BOS. Either way, NK is not a magic solution since there’s no reason to believe...
Jump to post***GASP*** Another major US carrier is interested in the future of commercial aviation and what can be accomplished! I know most of airliners.net would rather see the “737 Super Max,” the “A320 Newer New Engine Option,” or the “777 XPlus” but I think it’s good that airlines are willing to see where ...
Jump to postI agree. B6 and NK were the outliers this quarter. Both reported losses while the competition reported profits. Everyone faced the same cost headwinds (fuel, labor, general inflation) but in an ironic twist, this LCC and this ULCC underperformed. NK’s route network won’t work at B6’s costs and B6 c...
Jump to postIn several past threads you’ve made it a point to tout JetBlue’s marketshare in LAX and SFO based on revenue (why does this even matter as a metric when the airline can’t post a profit during what is expected to be the most profitable quarter for 2022 as the US heads into a recession…) JetBlue is n...
Jump to postTo be fair, no other airline has been able to build a focus city at SFO either. VX couldn’t turn a consistent profit doing it and AS (a well known brand on the west coast) couldn’t build one after they acquired VX. Like any major metro area, there are customers who fall clearly into either the SFO ...
Jump to postIn several past threads you’ve made it a point to tout JetBlue’s marketshare in LAX and SFO based on revenue (why does this even matter as a metric when the airline can’t post a profit during what is expected to be the most profitable quarter for 2022 as the US heads into a recession…) JetBlue is n...
Jump to postI said it in another thread, and I'll say it again here...we may end up getting a BOGO in airline demises with the B6/NK merge. I agree. B6 and NK were the outliers this quarter. Both reported losses while the competition reported profits. Everyone faced the same cost headwinds (fuel, labor, genera...
Jump to postCan anyone savvy with discerning airline financials break down how/why JetBlue did so poorly? I get it, fuel prices are high but their peers who also face higher fuel posted impressive profits. They can’t seem to run an on time airline. What gives? https://onemileatatime.com/news/jetblue-awful-fina...
Jump to postAt this point I don’t see any sort of “BlueSprit” type of ent entity resulting from this merger. However, I think the old “never say never” applies here. Both airlines underperformed their peers this last quarter. What comes out of this merger needs to make money. That may mean re-examining everythi...
Jump to postHow much profit is LHR/LGW producing? I am highly suspect that JetBlue is making money with TATL. They posted a large loss for the 2nd Q and they were flying TATL during that period. Did they break out the revenue vs cost in their quarterly report for TATL flying? Exactly! Do we have hard numbers o...
Jump to postIn my opinion — The large markets with tons of seats/competition (CDG, LHR, FRA, etc.) are going to be difficult for jetBlue to be very profitable in with the aircraft they have (not enough seats to spread out costs) when competitors are flying larger planes with more seats, and at higher frequency...
Jump to postBefore Wright changes HOU was bigger for a time. It goes back and forth. WN is building 7 new gates at HOU so will keep growing Ina few years. For now DAL is getting close to maxed out it would seem. I agree DAL is close to being maxed out. It just seems like HOU has been underutilized for WN. I’ve...
Jump to postB6 is set to announce their second European city in time for a Summer 2023 launch. What city do you guys think it will be? Paris I could see DUB too. Decent mix of business, group/upper middle-income tourism/VFRish travel, which is linked to the NY and BOS areas more than anywhere else in the count...
Jump to postI’ve been flying WN regularly since I started college in Lubbock in 2001. One thing that has always puzzled me is why DAL, with fewer gates, is both currently and historically a bigger operation than HOU. https://simpleflying.com/southwest-airlines-busiest-airports-july-2022/amp/ This article shows ...
Jump to posthttps://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/faa-did-not-properly-oversee-southwest-airlines-us-watchdog-says-2022-07-27/ Looks like the Office of Special Counsel came down on the FAA for not properly overseeing Southwest and being improperly influenced by Southwest. Not a good look for South...
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