And for A220 i think one of A319'neo or b737-7 max can do the same job and avoid complexities.
Jump to post@TKFLYER thanks for update. Is there any chance of B787-10 and B787-8 ? In my opinion therr is a place for both of them for thin or trunck routes? If b788 does not make sense an alternatif would be 45BC and 230 EC on b789 and make it 275 seats. In my opinion some framed around 250 seats and range ma...
Jump to postHi all
Can TK’s own A332 s (JNA-JNE) do Ist-Denver? If yes I wonder why they are not staring
As far as I know 777/787 or A 330/350 are the same team
Jump to postI expect some Boeing orders in near future. My bet is (approximately) : 20 779, 20 787-10, 20 B787-9, on the other hand I strongly believe TK eventually needs 15 frames as A332 replacement for long & thin routes to deploy on new America (N&S) destination and African routes but I do not know ...
Jump to postIt might be related to announcement in late November 2023. TK announced as 10 NB leased from DAE to be delivered in Q4 24- 2025. Same quantity and delivery date came strange to me.
An other note : any expectation about long waited Boeing order. Do you see a chance that TK takes UA 737- max 10?
hi all, b 777/787 was presented as 150 frames. AI wonder whether A321Neo LR/XLR, B737Max7 and 10 and B787/8-10 will be part of order or not. I assume 15 A35K will be used for Austuralia and S.America. I wonder whtether TK will add B77x or not. My opinion is that based on this huge numbers, TK will/s...
Jump to postSource of B789s might be Bamboo airlines of Vietnam.
There are news that they will return it and it is 262+30
Pax or maybe Hainian airlines of China.
If true, then delivery in H1 of 2024 might be the case for 789s
hi all,
how can we learn which types are 25 NBs and 3 WBs.
Brand new or second hand?
Thanks to all for keeping thread going. My bet for 600 order inc options is : WB : 25 781, 25 789, 44 a 359, for vla 25 7779 and 10 778 it means almos 200 wb which seems sufficient, rest would be options or purchase rights, i strongly beleive that 15-20 788 will be perfect fit ss route opener or fre...
Jump to postconsidering that, TK loved B789 and A359, do they really need VLA like 77X and 35K except China and Canada where bilateral is limited. They are focusing on frequency increase, as an example 4 JFK flights this summer, so I am not sure whether 77X or 35K could have a decent LF or not with increased fr...
Jump to postconsidering that, TK loved B789 and A359, do they really need VLA like 77X and 35K except China and Canada where bilateral is limited. They are focusing on frequency increase, as an example 4 JFK flights this summer, so I am not sure whether 77X or 35K could have a decent LF or not with increased fr...
Jump to postHi all,
Thanks for new thread.
Any guess on 600 orders? Do you see chance of 787-10 and 787-8 ?
I read as 1 cargo at some sites, so it might be A332 F. An order of just 1 passenger A332 does not make sense. My wish list is : 10-15 B 788 to be used for America growth (Denver, Detroit etc) 20 B781 and 20 B77x for replacement of 77W and some growth 7 A350 ulr for Austuralia or else where needs ra...
Jump to postQuestions:
1) is there a demand for 4 daily flights?
2) what is target group for this timing?
3) could day use metals for Detroit launch instead of 4th daily JFK flighr?
I have a question about how efficient and effective is TK utilizing long haul fleet. Actual number of wb deployed on lh is : 30 77w+29 a333 + 5 a322 + 16 789 + 12 a 359= 92 What is numbers of wide bodies at European giants such as LH/BA/AF-KLM and if we compare number of lh destinations and flights,...
Jump to postThanks TK787 for March thread. Tomorrow is going to be a big day, i expect a record profit, we will have presentation on Thursday but it will give fleet details for 2023 latest. I see chance of any order very low becase of: 1. Delivery slots 2. Earthquake impacts 3. Elections Lets see, a good order ...
Jump to postI feel that TK stands a better chance with additional NTU 787 frames. There seem to be quite some that are not spoken for in what is currently stored in Victorville and San Antonio. I think TK will end up taking additional four NTU's to make up the seven delivery's for this year as I can't see new ...
Jump to postTo best of my knowledge:
Jip, jit, jis, log,lob, jit, jiz,jiy, finally tc-jom (333)
One simple question:
I wonder how TK is performing in Africa, how prices are, how connections work, any insight will be appreciated
Happy new year to all. If there is going to be an order for NB: 20 b737-max 7 or A319/320 neo will ne needed for replacement of aging a319/320s for delivery in the next 3-5 years 25-30 a321 neo or b737-max 10 for replacement of first a321s (JRA and JM series) and some aged b738s And some frames for ...
Jump to postIf LHR-PER is doable by 787-9 why not IST-SYD
The difference should be minimal (14980 vs 14500 km)
AFAIK, A359 has a range above 15000 KM and ULR version has more range, so it. Kight be doablw nonstop by a359 even.
I wish to have an order of WB as following:
10-15 B788 (replacement of A332 and some A333)
15-20 B781 (replacement of A333s and some 77W)
15-20 B77X (replacement of 77Ws)
10 A359-35K ULR (to be used for well discussed Sydney launch)
10-15 A359-A351
and natural retirement of A332, A333 and B77Ws
I see both of 788 and 781 as great machines for TK but I do not why TK went for 789 only. 1. 788 : a great machine for long thin routes and as a route opener, to be used for launch of new US destination such as Denver, Detroit and Latam and African routes. A natural replacement of aging A332s (5 own...
Jump to postOne of biggest operators is TK around 50 frames.
I don't why TK did not opt for NEO 339
Is there such a chance in future
I think TK needs to order both of 788 (if any ER)and 781 (ER as well but not a must)for replacement of A333/A332 and some of 77W. They need some ULR frame as well for far Latam and Sydney if ever. If we one day have NMA by boeing (size and range of 757/767 but twin aisle) it will be a perfect fit fo...
Jump to postDoes TK really need A220/E195? Considering simplicity, maintenance and spare part , pilot pool, i wonder whether A319 Neo/Ceo or B737-7 max could do same missions or not? In order to avoid above mentioned complexities, my vote is in favor of A319 or 737-7. On a seperate note, for additional wb, 787-...
Jump to postAccording to tolga ozbek web page, 10 77Ws will be coverted to freighters, i wonder whether there will be an idle capacity at 77w s fleet or will there will be a new wb order in near future, considering that 332 fleet is aging as well and leases of tam frames will expire next year. I think 787-10 wi...
Jump to postAnd what will be plan for A332s, lease of 8 birds (non ER) will be expired in 2023 and owned ERs are almost 16-17 years old, will there be an extension or not? Ahmet Bolat mentioned about cargo conversion investments by Turkish technic for A330/777 conversion, TK needs some smaller WB (250 pax) for ...
Jump to postHi all, 2 questions : 1) are ex SU 350s equipped with crew rest area? If yes after IFE issues they might be deployed at ER flights as well 2) Do you see a chance of 787-10 order for B77W and A333 replacement? It might be a good machine and range might cover all destination except US west and central...
Jump to postOne simple question:
Where can I find summer timetable of TK?
Thx
Considering TK10 incident, seems that consolidating all us flights by 777/787 fleet would be a wise decison, in particular ewr. One of the reasons to divert to JFK was having 5 team of crew in nyc, others spare parts and better custom regulations
Jump to postHotel has been offered, she waited at airport and managwd to find a seat at TK4, some passengers at TK4 and12; some will return when it fixed, seems good lf at us flights Funny thing is technial issue at TK4 after pushback and returned to parking area, fixed and departed with 2 hours delay, seems th...
Jump to postCockpit glass issue, landed safely, passengers offered hotel, my wife is there
Jump to postmy wife is there, issue is glass of Cockpit, Captain decided to divert, passengers have been offered hotel
Jump to postActually, if uncle Sam allows, 12 A320s and first dozen of A321s (jra...) would be a win-win for both of TK and IR.
Seems that TK loves A321 as narrowbody and 738/739s where range is needed
In berween, 5 owner A332 are aged as well, JNA-JNE,almost 15-16 years, A and B are 16 years old. Ii remember that TK had started to phaseout A340s when they were 15-16 years old
Jump to postIn berween, 5 owner A332 are aged as well, JNA-JNE,almost 15-16 years, A and B are 16 years old. Ii remember that TK had started to phaseout A340s when they were 15-16 years old
Jump to postHi all, I heard 3 b789 for 2021 but no clue for the rest. Some other questions at my side: 1) considering max announcement, what is your guess for 40 options, will TK take or endup at25 which will be relatively a small fleet 2) what about 321 Neos, btw I saw at FR24 tyat they are deploying neos on 5...
Jump to postHi alll, I saw a news at Tolga Ozbek web page and claims that first 2 A359 will be delivered on October 21 and 23rd An other note is that A332 fleet is now 14 which is close to initial planned 13 for end of 2020 Do you see any economical feasible way to get rid of leased 332s and some leased 333 (ex...
Jump to postDo they have enough planes?
They have just 2 a332 and they are serving:lhr,man,mad,ams,cdg,fra,vie,rome,mil,ham,cgn, how it works?
Hi all I am a frequent flyer of TK (+30 flights per year) based in Istanbul and closely following aviation industry. Like any business enterprises TK is suffering nowadaysand for sure will be negatively affected. I think the aviation industry can not comeback to 2019 level at least for 2-3 years, so...
Jump to postIf trumps eases sanction of Iran and allow for second -hamd aircrafts aged between 7-15, both sides can benefit, there is a demand for 400-500 airplanes and 15 years planes will be much more safer vs 40 years planes
Jump to postI do not have details of contracts but my proposal is as following: 1) cancell max order 2) retire 737 fleet dending on lease expire dates 3) if needed order A220 and plan a fleet of A220-321 for nb 4) negotiate with boeing to convert max order to 787-777x with late delivery dates 5) retire 332 flee...
Jump to postNothing is announced as new destination at q4 presentation, some frequency increase to ord,iah, sanf and lax
Sanf seems strange for me, TK was suffering for 200-250 pax for a while seems that those days are over
TK is out of question as well, they have 30+30 789/350 on order and 33 77w, they might need something like 35ulr for Discussed Syd flights or something smaller to replace 332s
Jump to postWill they change configuration if not I think these birds should be deployed on domestic routes without bc
TKs a322 are quite at nice configuration, how these LCC birds can be deployed?