Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

AI - 4 stored Aren't these Air India Jumbos active? I remember some rumors that AI would retire them, but it seems the airline denied this. Yes, they did deny indeed : https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/101433-air-india-denies-plans-to-retire-b747-400s However, last flight of VT-EVA was in on ...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

Does Terra Avia count, or is that only a charter airline? Honestly, I don't know. ER-BAC is regularly flying a weird routing (Urumqi-Turkmenbashi-Lagos-Bishkek-Urumqi). Are these cargo or pax flights, and, if the latter, who and would want to fly this route, I have no idea. I think 90% chance it's ...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

OK, where do we stand today? Asia: CA - 3 active OZ - 1 active Iraqi Airways - 2 active Mahan Air - 1 active AI - 4 stored Europe: Rossiya - 3 stored, 6 active LH - 8 stored Africa: Max Air - 3 stored Note 1: This list does not include aircraft that fly military charters, government missions, footba...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

Great to see it has flown again! THR-KER, as often. Even greater news, Mahan air has said that both EP-MNE and EP-MND (its 2 747-300's) will go back into service. The 747 classic is back! https://www.planespotters.net/photo/1165438/ep-mne-mahan-airlines-boeing-747-3b3m It is odd to me that if I am ...

Re: New suggestions as to MH370-'Depressed' Pilot made deliberate moves

the pilot flew the plane very high very quickly to accelerate depressurization to subdue the passengers and crew. We have already talked about that in one of the previous threads, but I think it might be interesting to initiate a new discussion with maybe new people joining in (especially 777 drive...

Re: Antonov AN-12 out IAH today

The An-12 is a beast. When I see one, I always think about that story in 1986 when the crew of an An-12 that took off from Chelyabinsk has lost consciousness on climbout because of hypoxia (as discovered later, an escape hatch was not properly closed). The An-12 was not on autopilot when the pilots ...

Re: JAL withdraws all P & W 777's.

JL could have very efficient WB fleet of only 787s and A350s in a few years time. I think that this is where they are going. You are forgetting the 767s. While the remaining 777-200ERs will be gradually replaced by 359s and the 777-300ERs by A35Ks, the 767s will probably soldier on for quite some y...

Re: China Southern Airlines Buys A319neos and More A321neos

Antarius wrote:

workhorse wrote:

Are there any airports in the world (other than LCY) that would require an A318?

Nope. The A220 can handle LCY now.

Re: China Southern Airlines Buys A319neos and More A321neos

Are there any airports in the world (other than LCY) that would require an A318?

Re: Which aircraft will replace the Airbus A330-200 at Air France?

I don’t expect Air France to do much business with Boeing, they no longer have the flexibility or efficiency to benefit from both manufacturers IMO. I think since they have a massive capital injection from the French government they will buy whatever Airbus sells them Exactly. As a French taxpayer,...

Re: Air China to buy 18 Airbus A320neo jets

Is this the sign that Air China is to reduce its B738/B7M8 fleet size in favour of airbus? Last time I checked the 7M8 was not certified to fly in China, so there is nothing to reduce. The question is about B738/B7M8 fleet, not B7M8 only. Among Air China's B738s, B-2645 is 21 years old, B-2657/2671...

Re: Air China to buy 18 Airbus A320neo jets

Is this the sign that Air China is to reduce its B738/B7M8 fleet size in favour of airbus? Last time I checked the 7M8 was not certified to fly in China, so there is nothing to reduce. As for the 738's they were already gradually retired since some of them are getting quite old (20+), I don't think...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

interesting development, on planespotters EC-KXN is listed as retired in 19 Jul 2020. https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Wamos-Air 19 Jul 2020 is the last time it has flown what looks like a commercial mission (Windhoek-Frankfurt). Since then, it has been moved between Ciudad Real and MAD (obvio...

Re: Boeing 747 Production/Delivery Thread - 2021

So in 2018 Boeing ordered from Triumph parts for 20 747-8s.

14 have been ordered by UPS.

4 are now ordered by Atlas (as the final outcome of the Volga-Dnepr/UPS/Atlas saga) and Boeing says this will be the end of it.

The question is: what are they going to do with 2 more sets of parts?

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

Any news on Air India 744 retirement? Interesting article on CH-Aviation: https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/news/101433-air-india-denies-plans-to-retire-b747-400s OK, so the plans to retire them in "early 2021" have been scrapped. Good to know. Let's hope they soldier on for a couple of ...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

KL - 1 stored at AMS hangar area (PH-BFV, last 744 in the fleet awaiting retirement flight) Europe: Rossiya - 9 stored, no communication on the retirement Like I posted in this thread earlier, in mid-2020 Rossiya announced in a quotation to Air Transport Observation that it plans to retire its 747-...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

CrimsonNL wrote:

workhorse wrote:

OK, where do we stand today?

Mahan Air - 1 stored

EP-MNB is currently active!

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

KL - 1 stored at AMS hangar area (PH-BFV, last 744 in the fleet awaiting retirement flight) Yeah, I have seen this one but didn't include it since it hasn't flown in the past month and KL has officially retired the 744 from service anyway. Which makes me think, maybe it's a good idea to include the...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

OK, where do we stand today? Asia: CA - 2 active, 1 stored OZ - 1 active AI - 3 stored , 1 active Iraqi Airways - 2 active Mahan Air - 1 stored Europe: Rossiya - 9 stored LH - 8 stored Wamos - 1 stored Africa: Max Air - 1 stored Note 1: This list does not include aircraft that fly military charters,...

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

So, basically it means there were only 13 "real" new orders for Airbus widebodies in 2020:

- 1 338 for Air Greenland
- 1 MRTT for the French Air Force
- 10 359s for Air France
- 1 359 for Air Lease Corp

...hardly surprising but sad.

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

xjetflyer2001 wrote:

3. Air China 10 (7 are 747-8) (One 747-400 operated for Government)

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

Wamos Air's EC-MDS has flown ORY-PTP once in December as a sub for Air Caraïbes. This 747 is wanted by the "Bring Our Birds Home" project in New Zealand. I believe she might be retired soon :( Thanks for the info! Didn't realise it was an ex-NZ bird. And the Lord of the Rings one too! I f...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

AA737-823 wrote:

Rossiya - ?

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

Wamos Air's EC-MDS has flown ORY-PTP once in December as a sub for Air Caraïbes.

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2021

Mahan Air's EP-MNB is regularly flying between Tehran and Kehrmann.

Re: Airbus and Boeing 2020 Orders

So, 2020 is over now, what are the grand totals for the year?

What is the breakdown by country? How many widebodies / narrowbodies? Freighters / pax?

Re: Can airlines re-purpose new biz seats onto smaller a/c?

Oh, I feel there is a new outbreak of chiliaenniakosiaogdontaenniaphobia* on this website.

*fear of the year 1989

Re: Air Greenland places Christmas order for an A330neo

How come Air Greenland hasn't ever expanded its network to connect with other Nordic countries, do summer charters to W.Europe for those eager to explore this vast island/continent and also connect with the Canadian Inuit people? Leasing a few NBs could have helped them Greenland has a very cautiou...

Re: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana

Q: The combined fleet of Asiana and Korean Air will also consist of 16 Airbus A380s and 35 Boeing 747s. These are big planes. Do you intend to retire some of them? A: We will review the entire A380 operation and its routes. Since most Boeing 747s are freighters, plans will be developed for them as ...

Re: Korean Air makes bid for Asiana

Q: The combined fleet of Asiana and Korean Air will also consist of 16 Airbus A380s and 35 Boeing 747s. These are big planes. Do you intend to retire some of them? A: We will review the entire A380 operation and its routes. Since most Boeing 747s are freighters, plans will be developed for them as ...

Re: AS to VVO 1993 - 1998

(Anyone who knows more about why hot water was such a commodity in Russia, feel free to jump in ) It's a bit of offtopic here but here's why: In the Western countries only "regular", cold water is supplied to buildings. Then it is either heated by a collective boiler, usually located in t...

Re: Is this Emirates new premium economy seat?

Each man to his own. I almost never book Premium Economy because at most airlines it's located over the wing which makes window seats useless. They really should put a Premium Eco section behind the wing. When I worked for one of Europe's seat manufacturers, I tried to push to the management the ide...

Re: Air France KLM - Master Thread

I am not a huge fan of neither Air France nor KLM but watching them from the outside is a bit like watching a couple who can't stop fighting with each other: when they are at home, when they are shopping, and even when they are out for dinner with all their friends around. You just bite your lips no...

Re: Airspeed limit under a certain altitude in China

I'm all for metric in general, but in this particular case, feet are very convenient. As mentioned above altitudes in feet come out as nice, round numbers. With metres, you don't get that. Well, if meters where used world wide they would come up with more or less round numbers: something like 10 00...

Re: Airspeed limit under a certain altitude in China

On the other hand, one might also say that it is ridiculous that in 2020 we're still using an archaic measurement system coming from an empire that doesn't exist since almost a century. Nautical miles and knots make total sense. Feet, inches and miles make no sense at all. They are not even decimal!...

Re: Easyjet to charge for overhead lockers - 10Feb

I think most of the people here do not get what's happening.

Up until now, EasyJet only allowed carry on bags that fit into the basket at check-in. Everything larger than that had to go to the hold.

Now, they are going to allow bigger bags into the cabin - for a fee.

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Cardude2 wrote:

I think it is safe to say at this point that all China airline's 747's and Thai airways 747's are retired.

Re: Airspeed limit under a certain altitude in China

zeke wrote:

workhorse wrote:

Is there an airspeed limit under a certain altitude in China (like 250 knots under 10,000 feet in the USA)?

Yes normally 250 below 3,000 m (9,860 ft)

Airspeed limit under a certain altitude in China

Is there an airspeed limit under a certain altitude in China (like 250 knots under 10,000 feet in the USA)?

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

Anything else? Atlas Air have pax B747-400s aswell and even got some ex-Virgin airframes, which still didn't enter service Yeah, I saw them too, but when you look up their flight history, they spend their time flying weird routes, like Pristina-Frankfurt-El Paso. I wonder if these are real pax figh...

Re: Boeing 747-400 Passenger Fleet Tracking/Retirements Thread - 2020

OK, where do we stand today? Asia: CA - 3 active OZ - 1 active AI - 3 stored , 1 active Iraqi Airways - 1 stored, 1 active KE - 1 stored Mahan Air - 1 stored CI - all stored and marketed for sale (by GA Telesis). TG - all stored and marketed for sale Europe: Rossiya - at least 4 out of 9 are more or...

Re: Updated: LH to restructucture SN

How Air Belgium is doing these days? I'm sure they would be happy to take over these African rights...

Re: A350-900ULR: a one-off concept?

Why not? Business and political ties between China and South America are ever growing. 10 years ago, who could have imagined a route like CDG-KWE? And yet it has been launched (although, granted, COVID may end up being the death of it). PEK-LPB or PEK-UIO certainly seem to me to be less weird than ...

Re: Viability (& Legality) of Combi Aircraft Moving Forward

Qantas16 wrote:

would have to park at passenger terminals and pay associated fees

Re: Viability (& Legality) of Combi Aircraft Moving Forward

This is a purely hypothetical question, but I always wondered if there are any routes in the world where a 744 Combi could hit a capacity sweet spot by completely filling the main deck with cargo, and only carrying passengers on the upper deck..say 60-70 economy seats installed? I'm sure some cargo...

Re: Viability (& Legality) of Combi Aircraft Moving Forward

This is a purely hypothetical question, but I always wondered if there are any routes in the world where a 744 Combi could hit a capacity sweet spot by completely filling the main deck with cargo, and only carrying passengers on the upper deck..say 60-70 economy seats installed? I've often wondered...

Re: A350-900ULR: a one-off concept?

It seems to me like the last potential customers in the pipeline would be QF, ACJs, and maybe (big emphasis) BA. But otherwise I don't envision any other airline needing it.. Air China might be interested in the future for non-stop South America. Something that will most likely stay in your mind. T...

Re: A350-900ULR: a one-off concept?

Air China might be interested in the future for non-stop South America. Except that it wouldn't do them much good, as the only route within even the brochure range, would be something like PEK/PVG-BAQ. The likes of PEK-GRU is more than 1000nm beyond what Airbus advertises the aircraft as capable of...

Re: A350-900ULR: a one-off concept?

Airlinerdude wrote:

It seems to me like the last potential customers in the pipeline would be QF, ACJs, and maybe (big emphasis) BA. But otherwise I don't envision any other airline needing it..

Re: 1% of people cause 50% of emissions

It's a shame the media are focused on air travel's environmental impact, instead of a far more horrific source of environmental harm: dogs and cats. Every day, the US's pet cat population kills at least 750,000 innocent, defenseless birds. However, dogs are even worse for the environment than cats ...