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by Finn350
Thu May 16, 2019 5:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Some new information: as a result of the lightning strike, the generators were automatically cut off and the plane entered Emergency Electrical Configuration (EEC). This resulted in the direct law being applied. The aircraft systems worked as designed, and the EEC should be considered as a designed ...

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by Finn350
Wed May 15, 2019 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Three Class Narrowbodies
Replies: 81
Views: 9083

Re: Three Class Narrowbodies

4 Cabins, seat & service spec's, 3 classes. As a passenger, I really could't care less, a little knee space & avoid shoulder rubbing 777 10 abreast, 787 9 abreast. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3f/61/73/3f6173ba4db4eb12b73c76c826576fd1.png Even the name “MAIN CABIN EXTRA” says it, it is no...

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by Finn350
Tue May 14, 2019 1:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Three Class Narrowbodies
Replies: 81
Views: 9083

Re: Three Class Narrowbodies

IMHO, the correct definition for a class in this context is separated cabins or at the very least physically different seats. In that case AA A321Ts probably are the only true three-class narrowbodies. The example given in the first post looks more like first and business class in the same cabin.

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by Finn350
Sun May 12, 2019 8:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

According to a Russian new agency, the majority of passengers in the tail end of the aircraft had almost no chance of survival. The majority of passengers in the tail end of the aircraft, which was primarily hit by a fire, had practically no chance of rescue. "This is evidenced by the position ...

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by Finn350
Thu May 09, 2019 3:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Performance data from Rosenbauer.com, and you don't even need to speak fluent German to understand what they are saying. (they probably have an English site somewhere if you are really interested) It has a big brother 8x8 which has whopping 1400 hp available, but because it weighs in at 52tonnes, i...

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by Finn350
Thu May 09, 2019 12:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

And the video is agonizing!! I mean, I can't tell you how many times I screamed in my mind about the fire response. But, then I had to account for getting the vehicle in drive, and getting the vehicle to the scene. Those trucks dont go from zero to 60 in 3 seconds. In the 80's and 90's, ARFF rules ...

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by Finn350
Mon May 06, 2019 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

I'm slightly focused on the switch from squawk 7600 to 7700. Would the pilots have made this switch if they believed their only problem was no radios throughout the entire flight? Or is 7700 a necessity to make a landing at a controlled airport without talking to the controllers? Because the way I ...

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by Finn350
Mon May 06, 2019 4:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead

Best exterior videos I've found on the evacuation from the R1 door at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCybSEQuP0I and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugc0tTyFvD8. Syncing unique common events in the videos, like the ******* blocking the exit and then jumping out with his roll-aboard suitcase around...

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by Finn350
Sun May 05, 2019 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: Aeroflot 1492 SSJ100 fire at Moscow (SVO) - 40+ confirmed dead
Replies: 810
Views: 135750

Re: Aeroflot SSJ100 on fire at Moscow (SVO)

Looks to me like the right hand engine is still running after the aicraft stops and evacuation starts and is fanning the flames. Any opinion here? It might be that the engines were uncontrollable at that point of time, i.e. the crew couldn’t switch them off. Lot of contradicting rumors at the momen...

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by Finn350
Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread
Replies: 660
Views: 164004

Re: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread

In the original plan, there were two parallel runways and 8 parallel taxiways, or something to that effect in the first phase. It seems that they have built two pairs of parallel runways, those in each pair very near each other, and less taxiways in the current implementation. What is the logic beh...

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by Finn350
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread
Replies: 660
Views: 164004

Re: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread

In the original plan, there were two parallel runways and 8 parallel taxiways, or something to that effect in the first phase. It seems that they have built two pairs of parallel runways, those in each pair very near each other, and less taxiways in the current implementation. What is the logic beh...

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by Finn350
Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread
Replies: 660
Views: 164004

Re: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread

In the original plan, there were two parallel runways and 8 parallel taxiways, or something to that effect in the first phase. It seems that they have built two pairs of parallel runways, those in each pair very near each other, and less taxiways in the current implementation. What is the logic behi...

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by Finn350
Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread
Replies: 660
Views: 164004

Re: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread

https://onemileatatime.com/istanbul-airport/ All that being said, I don’t think building the world’s largest terminal was a good idea, especially without any easy way for people to get around the terminal. ... If you’re connecting between nearby gates or are originating in Istanbul this isn’t a hug...

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by Finn350
Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread
Replies: 660
Views: 164004

Re: Istanbul new airport - latest pictures and discussion thread

I suppose this is the largest ever airport relocation?

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by Finn350
Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I believe the Max is safe and will be safer as a result of the changes made. Very sad people died in the crashes but the root cause seems to be poor piloting decisions spurred by failures in automation and / or faulty equipment. The bottom line is both flights should never have become accidents.......

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by Finn350
Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I believe the Max is safe and will be safer as a result of the changes made. Very sad people died in the crashes but the root cause seems to be poor piloting decisions spurred by failures in automation and / or faulty equipment. The bottom line is both flights should never have become accidents.......

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by Finn350
Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Here are the MCAS changes as explained by Boeing https://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/737-max-software-updates.page Is this the update the FAA recently said needed more work? Or is being considered for approval right now? I would guess that at the level explained there the update won’t change.

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by Finn350
Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Apparently STAB TRIM CUTOUT switch positions are not recorded by the DFDR, and so they cannot directly identify the position of the switches. Not recorded, because MCAS, as well as the pilots, can change. Likely MCAS will turn out to have three settings - OFF (procedure yet to be disclosed by Boein...

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by Finn350
Thu Apr 04, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

"At 05:40:35, the First-Officer called out “stab trim cut-out” two times. Captain agreed and FirstOfficer confirmed stab trim cut-out. " Unfortunately that's not confirmation they flipped the cut-offs, only an assumption. We need FDR data for confirmation of the switch position. That piec...

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by Finn350
Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Preliminary report will be something like two pages stating the basic facts. Maybe in a couple of months time we will get an interim report with more facts.

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by Finn350
Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

I thought the BEA and NTSB already had the FDR data. BEA were the ones who downloaded the FDR data, and they did not say that they did not look at the FDR data (as opposed to when the BEA said they did not listen to the CVR audio). NTSB assisted with downloading the FDR, so I assume they have a cop...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJco59tqoQ


Now I noticed you had already posted this one
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Noshow wrote:
Avweek had a 737 sim ride to experience some newly expanded stall enabled sim software.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJco59tqoQ


Now I noticed you had already posted this one

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 31, 2019 5:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJco59tqoQ
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Here is an interesting Youtube video of Alaska Airlines full stall training in an 737-800 simulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCJco59tqoQ

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 31, 2019 9:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16696

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

Such idea makes sense. Therefore the doubt is: why such math should apply to the NB but not to the WB? For example, why Boeing developed the 787 instead of doing for the 767 the same it did for the 737? Because there was a step change in efficiency of around 20 % available in the widebodies 767 vs ...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 31, 2019 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Also read all of it. It is quite enlightening. https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1RA006 On Wednesday, Boeing said the MCAS system would now rely on two sensors. Sorry if this has been discussed before, and just in case that the second sensor for MCAS has been mounted on the planes from ...

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by Finn350
Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

http://avherald.com/h?article=40de5374/0006&opt=0 Automatic nose down command after a single faulty AoA sensor confused the ADIRU. Out of curiosity, I checked the failure mode description. It was very specific, now corrected, and at the time of the event, it was 1 out of 28,000,000 flight hours...

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by Finn350
Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16696

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

Can you imagine the math that goes through the head of a senior Boeing exec when considering that $10B ( me : for an 8% more efficient 737?) project that will almost certainly be >$20B by the time it is done? Off topic a little: Wow, the $6.5B CSeries program could then be considered a bargain in c...

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by Finn350
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

The question is, was MCAS the root cause? Or was MCAS the final nail that caused the irretrievably condition? It certainly caused the latter part imo. MCAS activation is certainly not the root cause of the either accident. However, the original design of the MCAS may very well be root cause for bot...

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by Finn350
Fri Mar 29, 2019 11:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16696

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

If Boeing only sells 5000 MAXs and spent $2 billion to develop it, that's $400,000 per plane. If they spent $10 billion on a clean sheet and sold 7000 of them, it's over $1.4 million per plane. To get ROI, the airlines would have to be willing to spend over $1 million more per plane. I am pretty su...

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by Finn350
Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?
Replies: 127
Views: 16696

Re: Why Has Boeing Been So Reluctant To Build A New Narrowbody?

A cleansheet narrowbody program would cost at least $10 billion, and technological advances would bring only few percent savings in better efficiency. In other words, there has not been a business case for a new cleansheet narrowbody. When engine technology has advanced enough, the time will be righ...

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by Finn350
Thu Mar 28, 2019 6:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

MCAS did not just appear with the MAX. Here is a quote from Aviation Daily (25 March 2019): "Both the KC-767 and KC-46 fleets delivered to air forces in Italy, Japan and the U.S. rely on the MCAS to adjust for pitch trim changes during refueling operations. In the 1980s, Boeing’s engineers con...

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by Finn350
Wed Mar 27, 2019 7:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 592474

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

Fry every electrical system (I said everyone) and tell me how you land it. I didn't say the ap or alpha prot I said every. Huge emp burst and all these new planes are screwed. For the A320, in the event of a complete loss of electrical flight control computer signals, the airplane reverts to a mech...

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by Finn350
Wed Mar 27, 2019 6:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 592474

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

In *totally* manual mode, every Airbus in the air today would be doomed as would the 787 and 777x (pretty sure on the last one not 100%). True FBW aircraft in totally manual mode (aka EVERY piece of electrics on the plane fried) are screwed. Please stop adding completely false claims here! No natur...

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by Finn350
Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China agrees to buy 290 Airbus A320 planes, 10 A350s
Replies: 135
Views: 21581

Re: China agrees to buy 290 Airbus A320 planes, 10 A350s

Looking at ghe current backlog, I think Airbus won't mind some customers "defecting" to A220-300/-500 over time. When your network requirements are 120-170 seats, you do not require serious cargo capability and / or longer flights it might work. No cockpit commonality though.. Imagine the...

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by Finn350
Mon Mar 25, 2019 5:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China agrees to buy 290 Airbus A320 planes, 10 A350s
Replies: 135
Views: 21581

Re: China agrees to buy 290 Airbus A320 planes, 10 A350s

Congrats to Airbus and China Aviation Supplies Holding Company! In terms of number of aircraft, that has to be one of the largest deals ever.

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 24, 2019 11:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?
Replies: 102
Views: 12793

Re: Why Did Finnair Not Order The 787?

They made the decision when having to replace their MD-11 fleet. Airbus was able to offer A350 (the original) and A330/A340 as an interim solution. The order was later updated to the A350XWB. I guess Boeing with the 787 and 767 as an interim solution was not as attractive.

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 24, 2019 3:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

I had a coworker who had a saying: "How come there's never time to do it right, but there's always time to do it over?". I like that, along with someone else's "A plane needs to be designed to be safe with an average pilot on a bad day" But there is also the, as at Lake Wobegon ...

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by Finn350
Tue Mar 19, 2019 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

But wasn't the second sensor optional and if so not every max is equipped with it? And unless I'm missing something in this case it would mean A. Boeing is going to equip all maxes with the "optional" sensor or B. they can activate it by patching software?? All 737 MAX already had 2 AoA s...

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by Finn350
Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

What I don't get is why didn't the other countries aviation authorities spot the problem also? Since it is their duty to certify whether the 737 MAX is safe to fly over their airspace. Did all of the aviation authorities miss out the MCAS issue? Probably not helped by understanding that MCAS would ...

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by Finn350
Mon Mar 18, 2019 7:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi Q1 2019
Replies: 5474
Views: 712930

Re: Ethiopian Airlines 737MAX crashes enroute to Nairobi

Fine. But if the condition that triggered MCAS (probably exceeding AoA threshold as a function of Mach nr) disappears due to pilot input but reappears a moment later. Does MCAS starts as if nothing happened before? Yes. No what it says is if it trims 1 degree and the pilot resets it will then enact...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Quote: * Economic problem. Boeing sells an option package that includes an extra AoA vane, and an AoA disagree light, which lets pilots know that this problem was happening. Both 737MAXes that crashed were delivered without this option. No 737MAX with this option has ever crashed. So will Boeing al...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 592474

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

You have misunderstood it. In that case you can add me to the list; I must have "misunderstood" it too. :o I just wish I could find the relevant posts upthread; I'm not certain what search criteria is needed to narrow it down from over 6000 posts It was in the thread about the NYT article...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/n ... 520773.htm
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Regarding punitive damages, the standard is whether they acted with a ‘conscious indifference’ to the safety of others. I suspect the bar is relatively high.

Source: https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/n ... 520773.htm

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 592474

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

In addition, MCAS engaged on both sides even though the AOA was faulty on the left side. From the Seattle Times article: "The black box data released in the preliminary investigation report shows that after this cycle repeated 21 times, the plane’s captain ceded control to the first officer. A...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang
Replies: 3188
Views: 592474

Re: Lion Air 737MAX8 Crashed Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/failed-certification-faa-missed-safety-issues-in-the-737-max-system-implicated-in-the-lion-air-crash/ Aside of the FAA safety assessment activity delegation to Boeing scandal, I found this regarding MCAS: The original Boeing document provided t...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Has anybody heard any details on the new logic in the MCAS? I was reading the nytimes article on “lack of training”. It made a statement when the chief AA pilot was told of the new logic, he was satisfied. All I have heard is the MCAS only reacting once to a possible stall and some sort of indicato...

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by Finn350
Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide Q1 2019
Replies: 6472
Views: 709565

Re: B737MAX Grounded Worldwide

Based on the complaints by US pilots about lack of training and understanding of the new systems I have zero faith that ANY pilots have been adequately trained to deal with the new planes. As far as we can tell the official line is no training is even needed. Icelandair MAX pilots trained specifica...

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