Does anyone think that a dedicated 797 freighter is a possibility? It depends on the dimensions of the final plane and how well they match up to a dedicated freighter. If the rumors of a slightly ellipsoidal fuselage are true, then maybe not since it would mean customized main deck pallet loading w...Jump to post
how do we know any of these percentages are truly significant without knowing the current actual values and the proposed new values. The OEMs will filter their numbers and can show "significant percentage improvement" just by changing the tracking parameters... Leeham.net normalizes to th...Jump to post
airzona11 wrote:Still lots of MD11s/A300s to be retired and nothing in the pipeline from A or B to replace them.
While 50% discounts are probably correct, list price includes engines and Buyer Furnished Equipment that Boeing does not get a cut of. So Boeing gets closer to half of that actual sale price for the airframe itself. So Boeing probably only made a few score million per delivery and the write-downs wo...Jump to post
I am guessing those figures are against the earlier A350s, not the upcoming ones ones with the aerodynamics and engine improvements. Perhaps we can reduce that figure by 2-3%? Considering the article posted after all of the A350 PiPs have been announced and in some cases introduced, I would guess t...Jump to post
The 747-8 wasn't that expensive to develop and has led to the 747-8F which appears to have some future. Beyond the billions it cost to design, Boeing has written down almost $3.5 billion (after tax) due to production overruns and lack of orders. The only saving grace now is that the program should ...Jump to post
AA subsidiary PSA Airlines has been subjected to multiple "technical issues" the past couple of days that have led to ground stops and hundreds of cancelled flights, many at CLT. So this is probably related. See viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1396687Jump to post
It might also be that since Boeing will be taking ownership of it per their agreement with Cathay, the MoF cannot make an attempt to acquire it at this time and would need to wait for Boeing to decide to either donate it directly or make it available for the MoF to make an attempt to acquire it.Jump to post
B764er wrote:So B-HNL was retired? I hope 777#1 gets to be in a museum.
I wonder why Airbus did not just offer several common seating/feature layouts, which could be reconfigured at modest cost; and then an airline who wanted more than that had to pay extra for it. In that case I suspect that most A380s would have had one of the standard layouts; and retrofit cost woul...Jump to post
How many hours / cycles does this bird have up? might be a cheap way into the ultimate personal jet... Dr. Peters already tried this. The recruited a Swiss company to sell it as a VVIP-jet (but found no takers).. :yes: Even if the airframe could be purchased (relatively) inexpensively, the actual o...Jump to post
How many of the first batch of 787 frames destined for final customer delivery were scrapped or foisted off on museum sites? Five. Remember: Boeing expected to sell off (near) all frames used for flight testing and qualification. Yes. Boeing does not hold back a frame for further testing like Airbu...Jump to post
EduardoL wrote:What is that white fuselage with a Japanese prefix?
...I believe the FAA will no longer certify new combi designs with cargo and passengers on the same deck because of the fire hazard. As noted, new combination frames are being certified, they just lack the flexibility of earlier designs due to the bulkhead between the cargo and passenger areas need...Jump to post
The A330ceo had no long term future for significant new orders as it’s fuel inefficiency catches it up to it and Boeing worked through the 787’s production issues and backlog. That is why Airbus developed the neo in the first place. The demise of the A350-800 and the knowledge the 787-10 would even...Jump to post
With system-wide Average Load Factors for most long-haul carriers in the 80th percentile, by definition, on average 24 of those extra 30 seats are going out loaded. Surely? Not in the specific scenario I was responding to (as sabby and Polot subsequently alluded to). I don't come on the forum much ...Jump to post
LoganTheBogan wrote:Any idea on how much performance and efficiency improvements will be gained by the engine PIP?
"Capability" is not just how far an airliner can fly but also how much it can carry over this distance. On average A350-900 can carry 30 more passengers than 787-9 for ~400nm further and if these 30 passengers can be filled consistently it is the more appropriate aircraft. The claim "...Jump to post
I guess the proper term is "280,000kg Capable" since the frame is capable of being re-certified to that MTOW with a paperwork change.
Airbus recently updated the A350-900 ACAP to add two Weight Variants (WV010 and WV013) that are rated at a 280,000kg MTOW.
Till Airbus certifies the 280t variant for the non ulr (announced for 2020) it is not a paper derate of a 280t frame. Paper derate of the 278t? yes. The production block starting from the IB frame is ready for 280t when it arrives. The latest update to the Airbus A350-900 ACAP added two Weight Vari...Jump to post
What I think was short sighted was Airbus developing the NEO instead of optimizing the A350-800. The A350-800/900/1000 would have been very compelling to a lot of carriers, had that -800 been optimized for it’s size instead of a shrink of the -900. The A350-800XWB was pinched between the 787-8 and ...Jump to post
Has the 777X got the silly windows? The windows will be larger and positioned to both allow in more ambient light and improve passenger sight lines when looking out. The dimming functionality from the 787 was considered, but I believe if it will be available, it will be a customer-specified option ...Jump to post
Well look at it this way, LN005 was worth almost $424 million when she was scrapped (calculated by dividing the write down for her and LN004 divided by two) which is some ten times what MSN003 is said to be valued at and five times what she's expected to bring as spares (both per media reports). :si...Jump to post
I remember sometime just before the plane first flew, knowing the order books was pretty much floated by Emirates... At the time of first flight, Emirates represented 29% of the order book so while they were the largest single customer, they were not really "carrying" the program at that ...Jump to post
True but aircraft manufacturers and designers often propose various ideas to aircraft design and seating. But in this case it is actively being promoted by real airline CEO and is already being put it into real world practice. I think all (or if not a large and increasing number of) Emirates aircra...Jump to post
I would imagine the IFE system needed to deliver an image to a high-definition monitor inside the fuselage would cost and weigh more than the current windows. Plus it would be far more maintenance-intensive. That being said, this is not a new idea. Boeing looked into projecting images onto the insid...Jump to post
The 787-9 does not match range and payload of the A350-900. But to be fair, it doesn't need to in order to address the needs of a significant portion of the market. It's how the A330-300E started to supplement and replace 777-200ERs even though it could not match the full payload weight nor the ful...Jump to post
put the numbers, not statistics Well using an A350-1000 test flight with a blocked time of 11 hours and 22 minutes, the airframe burned an average of 6800kkg an hour. On a similar mission, a 777-300ER will burn an average of 8600kg an hour, which is 21% more. A TAM A350-900 flying GRU-MXP had a tri...Jump to post
What about the NEO freighter? UPS is picking up an additional 3 B767s and was rumored to be interested in the A330NEOF as an MD-11 replacement, along with the Amazon carriers. Airbus is really weak thus far in the freighter market. I fully expect UPS to go with the 777F when it comes time to replac...Jump to post
The US President (not necessarily Trump) should go the other extreme, retire both AF1 birds, and fly commercial whenever a travel requirement comes up. Well President Nixon did it once on 26 December 1973, flying a United DC-10 from IAD to LAX. That being said, I am sure the other passengers on tha...Jump to post
tigerotor77w wrote:I don't see a need for a 779-size plane in their fleet.
Happy to be corrected but how could they have launched the NEO 2 years earlier unless it was to be a glider?As I understand it the engine was in fact 6 months late. Rolls was ready to commit to an engine (Trent 1700) for the A350 Mark I back in 2005 which, like the Trent 7000, would have been a Tre...Jump to post
At the time Airbus gave the go ahead for the A380 they claimed a market existed for 1500 VLA. At the exactly the same time Boeing said the market was 500 frames. Are you sure about Boeing‘s figure of 500? It’s true that Boeing was less enthusiastic and we all know this but I don’t think the differe...Jump to post
gregn21 wrote:Why not just buy 10 more 789’s?
I can understand existing A380 operators not being interested in them due to the customization. The first 25 frames affected by this went to SQ, EK and QF and SQ and EK rotate their frames out around 12 years and QF is not interested in adding any more at this time. So that leaves new operators. HiF...Jump to post
[AFAIK Doric collected 21.1 million dollars of lease payments per year for each SQ A380, so including the money from the part out. That's an IRR of... 4.5%, not counting fees, yikes, given how risky a portfolio of Aircraft can be as financial assets an investor should expect 10+% IRR at minimum... ...Jump to post
Probably not a coincidence the A350-900 is doing short-runway testing at Wellington this week.Jump to post
[Doing the housewife's calculations, those two A380s lost 90% of their value over 12 years, having a listprice of US$ 445,6 M. (Source: Airbus, http://www.airbus.com/content/dam/corporate-topics/publications/backgrounders/Airbus-Commercial-Aircraft-list-prices-2018.pdf ) List price at the time the ...Jump to post
maortega15 wrote:Will the -ULR have a corpse compartment like what SQ had on their A345?
maortega15 wrote:Btw, has anyone seen a pic of it? I've never seen it!
But the price reduction on the 787 effects the 797 in the same way. It limits the price they can ask for the 797, especially if they are willing and able to out price the A330NEO. As chiki noted, customers have already told Boeing what they're willing to pay for NMA and it's a fair bit less than wh...Jump to post
AA737-823 wrote:To me, the 330neo is a lot like the 753/764 in some ways. Not a bad airplane, by any means, but...
ElroyJetson wrote:I have not seen a direct comparison of fuel burn between an A359ULR and a 77L on let's say a 7000 nm mission. However, I would feel comfortable in saying the 359 will burn considerably less fuel.