Never unederestimate lazy thinking. Most the 787 naysayers are AB fanboys who see any B victory as as an AB failure. I’m sorry to be indelicate but this zero sum thinking is very prevelant across the pond. To be fair, almost every A380 discussion on this forum has a post about how expensive the pro...Jump to post
True, but I would not expect both to be served as wraps since the preparation would be to provide the flavor the meat lacks so you might as well just offer chicken in both entrees. I only fly Premium Cabins so I'm quite familiar with the food service offered and have always been offered distinctly d...Jump to post
VV wrote:One thing that makes me quite puzzled is the fact some "analysts" (or maybe charlatans) keep insisting telling the nonsense.
Probably Boeing will need to expand the block again by 100-200 units (or take a charge)... The current firm order count is at 1318 (which may or may not include the 10 frames removed due to the ASC 606 adjustment) and does not include the American Airlines order for 47 from this month nor the 40-fr...Jump to post
Well no airline would offer a choice of turkey wrap or chicken wrap since they would just offer chicken because it is cheaper. And beyond the cost savings, they are close enough in type (white meat fowl) that it is not even really offering an illusion of choice.Jump to post
KC-46A completes FAA Certification Testing necessary for issuance of a Supplemental Type Certificate. Boeing’s [NYSE: BA] KC-46 tanker program has now completed all required Supplemental Type Certificate (STC) flight tests following a successful refueling/communications flight with a C-17 Globemaste...Jump to post
This is the same discussion we've had in the current 797 thread so not sure why we're resurrecting a three-month old thread since the Moderators are going to close it for age.
If cargo is important, we're going to see LD2 and pallet capability. If it is not, we'll see LD3-45.
Just got off the earnings call and towards the very end the CEO threw off this comment. To paraphrase, long term we want to move to margins to the mid-teens referring to commercial side of the house. Do that and Boeing will be rivaling tech companies in profit margins. Well tech companies other tha...Jump to post
I will return to this thread after the detail analysis of the 787 debacle... I mean deferred cost come around, until that is cleared Boeing cannot ... I mean should not be reporting any profits especially when they are pushing cash to investors buying shares. Q1 2018 BCA Earnings from Operations Un...Jump to post
So, I assume an airline like LH, for example, will have to go from 30 inch pitch now to 28-29 inches when and if the ACF A321neo joins their fleet. That is disappointing. Either overly generous or really tight. Also, this confit will become the standard for all A321s including the LR. I am pretty s...Jump to post
RB211trent wrote:There are no pack A flying anymore and a pack B cannot be upgraded to a C.
My apologies if this has been asked or discussed already but do all RR-powered 787 customers experience problems or are there still a few who don't have problems? If so, how come one airline does have these problems while another one doesn't? By now, all Trent 1000 Package A and B engines should ha...Jump to post
Looks good in some way but surprisingly impractical in other ways. For instance, aft of (pushed back) Door 2, there are 9 rows at 32 inches. In that space, airlines can only have 9 rows at 32 inches or 10 rows at 28-29 inches. The flexibility of 30 inch pitch seems to be lost. Same can be said abou...Jump to post
I do wonder why it took Boeing this long to finally write it off. Where there strategic accounting reasons, beyond the cost of refurbishment vs selling revenue? If I understand correctly, as long as it was on the books as production frame, all cost associated with it could be deferred accounting wi...Jump to post
Boeing on the other hand can just move production of a new model to another state, with more flexible laws in the situation where Boeing feels limited. This imo is what the 788 changes are all about. Except the Section 47 and 48 for the 787-8 are already manufactured at Boeing Charleston. It sounds...Jump to post
UAL747422 wrote:I've seen a lot of other 777's that have been scrapped young. Why is this?
UA444 wrote:I thought it was 3 and 4 that were going to NW?
BWIAirport wrote:Will there be a new ICAO designation for the A350-900ULR? A59L?
It was a testbed airplane!! The costs to bring it up to production standards would be more than the airplane would be to Build it NEW.. Small detail: it was never intended to be a testbed airplane . . . LN005 was always intended to be part of the testing and certification program and then reconditi...Jump to post
As noted, this is just a cost-saving measure, not an attempt to improve the payload-range performance of the 787-8 to compete against the A330-800. The 787-9 seems to be the handling that already based on the HA and AA RFPs (yes, I know AA ordered 787-8s as well, but that was considered a surprise a...Jump to post
Maybe slightly OT. Boeing seems to be able to sell most of their test fleet while Airbus tends to keep theirs as in house testbed or straight to storage. Are there variations on their test programme that prevent them from selling their test fleet? Airbus does refurbish the other test frames in thei...Jump to post
I will tell you there are people at Boeing who believe that both the A320neo and 737max should never have been done and that long term both are mistakes to be corrected. Not saying I agree with it but they do have some points when they make their case. Well Boeing would have clearly preferred to go...Jump to post
The reason why this airframe was scrapped is probably because all the testing, breaking, and fixing rendered it unsafe and unreliable for regular pax ops. No reg authority would give it a CoA. I would expect ZA004 and ZA005 operated under the 787's Type Certificate once it was granted (as opposed t...Jump to post
For some reason we don't see many aircraft designed from the beginning for ACT fuel storage. Typically only "ultra long range" or "business jet" variants. ACTs themselves bring issues. I understand they're quite heavy and a pain to maneuver in the hold. You also need to have to ...Jump to post
Hmm so is it feasible or no? It's theoretically feasible, but it would add a significant amount of weight and complexity and would be very maintenance-intensive. Take a look at the lower hold of a commercial airliner - it has rollers and cargo locks on the floors and insulation and padding along th...Jump to post
How likely the problem will be on the T7000 as well? The T1000 Package C engines have multiple issues with them right now, including multiple issues with the IPC blades. Earlier ADs for the IP blades were in relation to accelerated sulfidation corrosion due to the coating used which led to some bla...Jump to post
On a side note, I am surprised Boeing hasn`t painted over the 787 and "Dreamliner" logo`s before releasing the demolishing crew...20 liters of paint and Joe Average would have been none the wiser. PAE sees only general aviation traffic so "Joe Average" won't notice it, anyway. A...Jump to post
Airbus advertises 6,550 for the A339. I have to think that's within specs That is Design Range, which would be just passengers and bags and favorable mission rules. If they want to take any cargo, that would likely limit it to the A330-800. Six months ago I'd be favorable to the A330-800 winning th...Jump to post
Would it be possible and would it be desirable for them to design the MOM/NMA/797 to have a "wettable cargo hold", as in, how airplanes use "wet wings" where the wing skin doubles as the exterior of the fuel tank to save weight and maximize fuel storage volume? I am going to gue...Jump to post
After 5 years in storage, they couldn't sell it to anyone? I'm surprised, I'm sure a charter airline would love a used 787. It was a testbed airplane!! The costs to bring it up to production standards would be more than the airplane would be to Build it NEW.. It also would have had a non-standard, ...Jump to post
noviorbis77 wrote:Is there any reason why the shell could not be used as an artificial reef as some (retired) aircraft have been?
I noticed that that the fifth 787, N787FT is now being scrapped. What is going to happen to the plane once it is scrapped? Will it go to the garbage dump or become something else. The materials recovered will at least in part be used on other 787s. Boeing turned 787 manufacturing scrap into usable ...Jump to post
If the 767 operations of the last 30 years mean anything, an average 2 hours is about right. And that includes the ER versions that can do 6000NM. Considering how many 767s did TATL and Mainland-Hawaii services in their career, I doubt "two hours" was the average stage length of an averag...Jump to post
I see a strong drive towards a range of 5000NM or even more for NMA. IMO that risks building an aircraft that is way to heavy to be competitive on the bulk of flights. I think it should be optimized, or at least be very efficient for flights of around 2hrs / 1000NM. If that is where the product is ...Jump to post
Well the 777-300ER is a "gas guzzling hog" compared to more modern airliner families (the delta is around 20% to the A350-1000, which is about twice what the delta between the A340-600 and 777-300ER was) so as the A350-1000 and 777-9 enter serial production we should start seeing significa...Jump to post
Neither the 737-800BCF nor the A321-200P2F are really "great" options. The A321 will offer about 87% of the volume and 69% of the payload weight, whereas the 738 is at 77% and 62%, respectively.
As such, the best replacement for a 757P2F is, frankly, another 757P2F.
So were the restrictions dropped as safety is not compromised or because airlines said it would cost them more financially? A fine line exist between the two extremes. As noted, the use of the word "dropped" refers to having been published, not that any previously present operating restri...Jump to post
So why is it that Boeing just doesn't revive the 787-3? It was supposed to be a replacement for 767 and 757. It had the range for US to Europe and good for domestic US use. Because the 787-8 is as good or better beyond 250nm. Boeing would need to invest significantly into weight reduction and optim...Jump to post