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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type
Replies: 57
Views: 5611

Re: DL S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Even NW was flying Convairs for a couple years post- NW/RC into numerous DTW spokes. Does anyone remember the infamous G Concourse "The Ho Chi Min Trail" at DTW until the McNamara Terminal opened? The G concourse was full of SAAB's 340's, BAe J31's, Do-228's, and Metro's. Not to mention C...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type
Replies: 42
Views: 4347

Re: UA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

UA isn’t going to put a 73G or 319 on a route that doesn’t have the demand to justify it. Outside of A.Net and few in the well-traveled public, the majority of the public has no clue what type of aircraft they’re going to be on, thus does not make purchasing decisions based on who is flying an RJ v...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type
Replies: 57
Views: 5611

Re: DL S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

The most striking thing about Delta’s current schedule is how much regional jet flying happens at DTW, and how much of it is on 50-seaters. It’s less pronounced than four years ago, but it’s still a huge portion. Yeah, DTW is still more regional-heavy than other DL hubs (likely in large part due to...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type
Replies: 42
Views: 4347

Re: UA S18 Departures By Hub And Aircraft Type

Thanks for all the work, FSDan. Would you care to add BOS to your AA listing?

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/17/2018:AA Drops ORD-BIS/BOI/COS/RAP/RNO for Winter or More;SXM Cuts;DY Shuffle;EY Pares JFK-AUH
Replies: 48
Views: 6532

Re: OAG Changes 6/17/2018:AA Drops ORD-BIS/BOI/COS/RAP/RNO for Winter or More;SXM Cuts;DY Shuffle;EY Pares JFK-AUH

'AA Drops ORD-BIS/BOI/COS/RAP/RNO for Winter'

AA wants to match UA in the Upper Midwest and Great Plains out of ORD, and just can't. We'll see how this continues to play out as UA reaches for 'natural share'.

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus does not believe in continuing deliveries to Iran
Replies: 66
Views: 11818

Re: Airbus does not believe in continuing deliveries to Iran

Europe needs to work towards the day when they have a ‘self-contained’ aircraft industry, free from the need to use components from the USA or any other country that can hold it to ransom. The European aviation industry has already proven that it has the knowledge and the ability to produce superb ...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 767/A321 replacement
Replies: 42
Views: 10075

Re: BA 767/A321 replacement

They are all shorter than US trancon, where the A321 over the years has replaced almost all widebody aircraft. 321s aren't really the dominant aircraft on U.S. transcons, defined as NYC-SFO/LAX. UA is mostly 757 EWR-SFO, with some 777s thrown in. Tomorrow shows UA with 11x 757 on EWR-LAX and just 1...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta 777 New Interior
Replies: 26
Views: 6044

Re: Delta 777 New Interior

WPvsMW wrote:
Premium Select makes domestic F look like a CRJ.


Odd that you say that. PS on a 359 is pretty close to Delta's typical domestic F seat pitch but with a narrower seat than to be found in any Delta mainline F.

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by MIflyer12
Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL launches LAX-Europe on B77L today
Replies: 27
Views: 6820

Re: DL launches LAX-Europe on B77L today

Iloveboeing wrote:
DL's 77Ls should be flying routes such as ... ATL-SIN, ATL-BKK, ATL-KUL


And falling out of the sky or doing tech stops routinely, apparently. ATL is an IDIOTIC location for hubbing travel to SE Asia.

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by MIflyer12
Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA and QF re-file for Joint Venture
Replies: 67
Views: 10875

Re: AA and QF re-file for Joint Venture

Also, I can't see without the help of QF, how AA could really expand in NZ or Australia. Really? AA is the largest carrier in the world. On LAX (where it's the largest carrier) to AKL or SYD it's got over 100 capable aircraft (777/77W/788/789). A JV here will just limit competition. Let's hope LAXi...

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by MIflyer12
Sat Jun 16, 2018 3:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will CX/HX/UA start HKG-SEA-HKG anytime soon?
Replies: 54
Views: 4031

Re: Will CX/HX/UA start HKG-SEA-HKG anytime soon?

Don’t see CX doing it, if DL could not make the business case work with it’s protected domestic network, cannot see CX being able to do it. CX is based in one of the most expensive and competitive hubs with over 100 carriers, it has to be fiscally responsible. It does not have the luxury of a prote...

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by MIflyer12
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will CX/HX/UA start HKG-SEA-HKG anytime soon?
Replies: 54
Views: 4031

Re: Will CX/HX/UA start HKG-SEA-HKG anytime soon?

zakuivcustom wrote:
And being present in YVR means nothing for soembody in SEA. YVR also doesn't even have all that great of a connection network to the USA.


There were 18 flights SEA-YVR yesterday including several that made reasonable MCT onto the CX departure YVR-HKG.

SEA-HKG just isn't YVR-HKG or LAX-HKG.

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by MIflyer12
Sat Jun 16, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?
Replies: 74
Views: 7629

Re: AA's Upgauges to Mainline: More to Come?

Has anybody run the fleet math to support the idea that switches to mainline are a broad, systemic thing? In 2017, mainline ASMs grew 0.9%, and total mainline plus regional grew 1.1% - so regional grew faster than mainline. Aren't they even pulling E-140s out of retirement?

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by MIflyer12
Fri Jun 15, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why no direct flights between Liverpool and London?
Replies: 52
Views: 6900

Re: Why no direct flights between Liverpool and London?

hohd wrote:
Rail tickets are expensive too (especially the fast trains) and are priced accordingly due to lack of air service.



I don't know. Virgin (direct) 2:12 travel time and GBP 17 one way on a date a few weeks from now.

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by MIflyer12
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Sichuan Airlines applies for Boston service
Replies: 46
Views: 3257

Re: Sichuan Airlines applies for Boston service

There are like a million college and grad students from China in the Boston area. So it should work. Also a lot of Chinese tourist groups in New England. In 2016-27, there were 60K international students in Massachusetts. From all nations, not just China. Not just western China. https://www.bostong...

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by MIflyer12
Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FI "extra section" flights and a place for bigger planes at FI
Replies: 4
Views: 1196

Re: FI "extra section" flights and a place for bigger planes at FI

aemoreira1981 wrote:
5-6 would seem to make sense for FI


Five or six widebodies is way too few to be an economical widebody (or anything) fleet.

It's not filling a 787 on a few summer days that makes it worthwhile - they need to fill it 300+ days of the year.

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 14, 2018 5:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: NK Major Expansion at MCO
Replies: 52
Views: 5483

Re: NK Major Expansion at MCO

Balloonchaser wrote:
I was sort of hoping to see SXM in this route expansion.. Sigh


Isn't SXM a little pricey for the NK crowd?

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 14, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4886

Re: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service, Without Announcement

SAN is a O&D city for AS not a connection hub. Anyway there is no way that AS is going want to connect anyone on EWR-SEA-GEG. Look it up on gcmap it's a rediculous amount of miles from the northeast corner down to the southwest corner back up to the northwest corner. I think you meant EWR-SAN-G...

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 14, 2018 3:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to cut Seattle-Hong Kong, announces Seattle-Osaka
Replies: 223
Views: 19371

Re: Delta to cut Seattle-Hong Kong, announces Seattle-Osaka

MSPNWA wrote:
Had a chuckle about how they talk about being Seattle's "global" airline, and now that "global" airline won't be flying to HKG. Crazy to think DL metal won't be in HKG.


Is a flight to HKG what makes a carrier global or not?

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service
Replies: 42
Views: 4886

Re: AS Starting SAN-GEG Service, Without Announcement

32andBelow wrote:
No one books a ticket by a press release. They go on kayak or the airline website and type in the city pair.


That's what I was thinking - and more directly stated.

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by MIflyer12
Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Vote to split California will move to ballot - Impact on Aviation?
Replies: 36
Views: 9316

Re: Vote to split California will move to ballot - Impact on Aviation?

I'd imagine tax laws would be slightly different across the three states. Please point to how state corporate tax law has meaningful impact on aviation in the U.S. (It doesn't. Assets and income aren't taxed at rates high enough to have a difference. Carriers still fly to NYC, CHI and LAX because t...

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by MIflyer12
Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air travel if oil price is high again
Replies: 12
Views: 1678

Re: Air travel if oil price is high again

I suspect it would be much the same as last time around: Traffic and revenue will drop, routes will be consolidated, deliveries deferred, retirement of old airframes accelerated, some airplanes might do a stint in the desert, profitability will drop across the board, less financially secure airline...

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Spirit announces GSO
Replies: 51
Views: 4683

Re: Spirit announces GSO

MAH4546 wrote:
It's always surprised me how little Florida service there is from GSO. You have two daily RJs to Miami and then the non-daily Allegiant service to PIE and SFB. There's room for more.


It's less than 10 hours by car GSO-MCO. Apparently GSO-Florida doesn't offer big business routes.

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL announces MSP - ICN
Replies: 162
Views: 18073

Re: RUMOR: DL to Announce MSP - ICN

Economically MSP-HND has almost nothing to do with MSP-ICN. They are nearly completely separate traffic flows. MSP-ICN is long overdue. MSP has gone long enough without decent access to broader Asia. Care to cite the PDEWs for MSP-major Asia airports? Would you like to compare them to DTW-same airp...

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Are any AS painted Airbus' at SEA yet & routes
Replies: 32
Views: 3508

Re: Are any AS painted Airbus' at SEA yet & routes

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N625VA
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Runway28L wrote:
As far as I know, only one A320 had been repainted from VX>AS and that's N625VA.


Flightaware shows that frame has been through SFO, SEA and PDX quite regularly in the last few days.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N625VA

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: E-175 rising, Q-400 declining?
Replies: 46
Views: 5753

Re: E-175 rising, Q-400 declining?

My recent, ongoing spotting at SEA reveals an accelerated number of the Embraer 175 jets in service, and fewer Q-400's. Both AS and Delta seem to be employing LOTS of the 175's. How does this affect the future of commuter turboprops? How is Dehavilland/Canada/ going to compete or stay relevant? You...

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:20 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Potential MOM Customers
Replies: 13
Views: 917

Re: Potential MOM Customers

reidar76 wrote:
Carriers with large fleets of 757-300 and 767 will be MOM/NMA launch customers. In others words, United and Delta.


Every carrier who used 752s to the limits of their range, across an economic number of frames, will be candidates, too.

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aéroports de Paris - monopoly
Replies: 6
Views: 1257

Re: Aéroports de Paris - monopoly

Given that the former BAA was forced to sell two of it's London airports and one of it's Scottish airports due to competition concerns, I've often wondered why ADP has been allowed to own and operate CDG and ORY. I understand that the French Gov. (and the French, it seems in general) are reluctant ...

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by MIflyer12
Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SY flight from MSP - LAS forgets the luggage!
Replies: 49
Views: 7075

Re: SY flight from MSP - LAS forgets the luggage!

I was on a NW DC-10 on a domestic segment out of BOS. Taxied to runway. Engines throttled up - then cut abruptly. 'Ah, we need to go back for eight containers of luggage we didn't load.'

There's lots of competition, even at the bottom. Being ULCC has little to do with it.

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: FAA ATC Diversity Efforts Challenged
Replies: 88
Views: 8859

Re: FAA ATC Diversity Efforts Challenged

Question: OTS = off the street, right? Does that equal “minority?” No it does not equal minority. But the problem is that the FAA has openly admitted that they are giving preference to “OTS” in an effort to diversify (aka hire more minorities) the workforce. So yes, I guess in the FAAs mind it does...

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta cuts profit forecast citing rising fuel cost. Who is next on line?
Replies: 11
Views: 1474

Re: Delta cuts profit forecast citing rising fuel cost. Who is next on line?

johns624 wrote:
Everyone.


That would be the answer. I'll let the OP point to the airline that doesn't have fuel as a large expense.

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP campaign in USA is receiving bad criticism
Replies: 33
Views: 5806

Re: TAP campaign in USA is receiving bad criticism

https://nit.pt/out-of-town/viagens/campanha-da-tap-chama-portugal-como-entrada-em-espanha. (ONLY in Portuguese, sorry) WTF, im portuguese, and if TP doesnt even have flights to LAX, ORD and SFO and IB does, how they have to say this? I don't find the affront. It's New York-focused. There's a very l...

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by MIflyer12
Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018
Replies: 348
Views: 48796

Re: Delta Aircraft Refurbishment - 2018

1989worstyear wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/delta-stock-price-higher-oil-prices-affecting-bottom-line-2018-6

Goodbye 752's.


752s won't be going anywhere. A Delta 757-200 in domestic config with 199 seats actually has a pretty good fuel burn per seat. 319s are inferior.

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by MIflyer12
Wed Jun 06, 2018 11:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CAAC releases latest blacklist of 86 individuals banned from air travel for severe loss of social credit
Replies: 32
Views: 5169

Re: CAAC releases latest blacklist of 86 individuals banned from air travel for severe loss of social credit

c933103 wrote:
Courts in China cooperate with the government...


That says all one needs to know, really.

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Potential 4th Commercial Airport — Washington, DC area
Replies: 56
Views: 4135

Re: Potential 4th Commercial Airport — Washington, DC area

May emerge? Wishful thinking probably, a combined 280,000 people warrants its own airport with 4 airports not too distant already (IAD, DCA, BWI, RIC). Driving 95 in either direction might not be ideal but I think other than personal service most people will have to use one of the 4 airports for th...

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Frontier Airlines announces 15 new routes
Replies: 37
Views: 4732

Re: Frontier Airlines media event at ONT - June 5th

klakzky123 wrote:
flymco753 wrote:
I expect MSP-CHS to fail.


Probably but its nice to see them try. The beauty of running an LCC is the low cost of starting and cancelling a route.


Can you explain why it costs less for Frontier (or another ULCC) to start and drop a route than it does for a legacy carrier?

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How is Cuba doing? (US carriers)
Replies: 6
Views: 1171

Re: How is Cuba doing? (US carriers)

wwtraveler99 wrote:
Are there any numbers out that might shed some light on the topic?


Beyond the load factors provided by bnatraveler, look at the carrier/routes than have been dropped, and the routes that have seen requests to use regional jet operators rather than mainline.

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: "Only a man can run an airline."
Replies: 137
Views: 10544

Re: "Only a man can run an airline."

I'm not sure his actual quote ("Of course it has to be led by a man, because it is a very challenging position," Mr Baker said) puts things in a better light. No, it doesn't. There are more than a few women CEOs and leaders who could have Baker for breakfast and crap him out before lunch....

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: If you think costlier air tickets are just a minor hitch, think again!
Replies: 11
Views: 2534

Re: If you think costlier air tickets are just a minor hitch, think again!

North Americans are happy with the airline service these days. I foresee few airlines will struggle to maintain the traffic growth due to tragic incidents like Southwest's engine explosion, United Airlines new policies etc.. https://news.alphastreet.com/if-you-think-costlier-air-tickets-are-just-a-...

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Two A380s To Be Sold For Spares
Replies: 45
Views: 10565

Re: Two A380s To Be Sold For Spares

I am sure this won't stop the haters but can the record show that these birds have a different electrical system to the later machines (like, after the first six frames is it?), and are a few tonnes heavier. So their appeal is extremely limited. Extremely limited ? What kind of discount to market d...

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by MIflyer12
Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will Aer Lingus ever have a daytime BOS-DUB flight
Replies: 24
Views: 2464

Re: Will Aer Lingus ever have a daytime BOS-DUB flight

Now if they could time it right and get a super early departure from BOS, say 6am (BA and VS are closer to 8-8.30) then they might have a shot at making some of those later connections... The people with $ to support decent average fare levels don't want to leave their houses at 0200 or 0300 in the...

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by MIflyer12
Mon Jun 04, 2018 3:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What should UA do to close the gap with DL?
Replies: 201
Views: 18874

Re: What should UA do to close the gap with DL?

So much denial... Skip the Levine article and look to the JD Power survey out just last week, with ratings in the seven categories (plus overall). http://www.jdpower.com/ratings/study/North-America-Airline-Satisfaction-Study/4012ENG/Traditional-Carrier/1269 UA didn't do well in any category. Delta's...

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by MIflyer12
Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AccorHotels Looking to Acquire a Stake in AF/KL
Replies: 17
Views: 2245

Re: AccorHotels Looking to Acquire a Stake in AF/KL

Other newsoutlets are reporting that Accor is interested in the whole 14,1% share, which is now owned by the government. Cheers! :wave: Sounds as though Accor Hotels is watching the Allegiant business model of vertical integration (Allegiant has an REIT subsidiary, Sunseeker, that owns and develops...

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by MIflyer12
Mon Jun 04, 2018 1:39 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why United Airlines needs to up the ante regarding ratings
Replies: 7
Views: 766

Re: Why United Airlines needs to up the ante regarding ratings

viewtopic.php?t=404875


That was a 2006 survey. The merger was in 2010, a year in which CO placed 2nd to AS among network carriers (and where UA placed 2nd to bottom, saved only by US).
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tpaewr wrote:
Mean time over at CO all the way up the eve of the meger.

viewtopic.php?t=404875


That was a 2006 survey. The merger was in 2010, a year in which CO placed 2nd to AS among network carriers (and where UA placed 2nd to bottom, saved only by US).

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 03, 2018 6:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 6/3/2018:AA Adds DFW-BUF/DRT/ILM/SRQ,MIA-GSP/TYS;DL LAS-CDG for CES
Replies: 78
Views: 9956

Re: OAG Changes 6/3/2018:AA Adds DFW-BUF/DRT/ILM/SRQ,MIA-GSP/TYS;DL LAS-CDG for CES

I remember $43 r/t tickets DTW-ORD on an AA DC-10 in the early 90s. Can you say marginal cost pricing? Lots of ~250 mile routes have been cut nationwide. The extra time commitment for post-9/11 security screening, bag fees, and same-day-change/standby fees all make driving a winning proposition for ...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 03, 2018 3:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA Fleet Update
Replies: 7
Views: 1257

Re: AA Fleet Update

I just saw AA's new plan to retire their E-190s, 738s, A330-300s, and 76Ws. I know that those respective aircraft fleets have some time on them, but I didn't think that they were that old. DOes anyone know when they got added to the fleet? Google 'planespotters.net aa fleet'. Within a type you'll s...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What is BA's strategy to hold market share at slot congested Heathrow?
Replies: 30
Views: 4030

Re: What is BA's strategy to hold market share at slot congested Heathrow?

Well, planespotters.net shows they've got 12 A380s and 259 aircraft smaller than A380s that could be upgauged (to as much as a 77X, presuming they don't buy more A380s). That's a good math problem for 12-year olds.

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 2 - 5 - 2 Configuration on a 777
Replies: 48
Views: 8675

Re: 2 - 5 - 2 Configuration on a 777

The center seat of that center section of 5, on a route like ORD-FRA. Lovely.

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Routes that all US Big 3 fly?
Replies: 20
Views: 2814

Re: Routes that all US Big 3 fly?

Corrections: ORD-SEA AA,DL,UA,NK,AS (AS also serves ORD with nonstop service to SEA, PDX, ANC, LAX, and SFO from ORD) LAX-SFO AA,DL,UA,AS,WN (NK serves OAK instead of SFO in the San Francisco Bay Area) Other routes out of LAX that are served nonstop from LAX on all 3 of the US3 carriers: LAX-ABQ AA...

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by MIflyer12
Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Routes that all US Big 3 fly?
Replies: 20
Views: 2814

Re: Routes that all US Big 3 fly?

Corrections: ORD-SEA AA,DL,UA,NK,AS (AS also serves ORD with nonstop service to SEA, PDX, ANC, LAX, and SFO from ORD) LAX-SFO AA,DL,UA,AS,WN (NK serves OAK instead of SFO in the San Francisco Bay Area) Other routes out of LAX that are served nonstop from LAX on all 3 of the US3 carriers: LAX-ABQ AA...

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