Re: Spirit to build new $250m headquarters in Dania Beach, FL

MIflyer12 wrote:

Clever, but Spirit Airlines doesn't rank among the Fortune 500 companies. Fortune 711 just doesn't have the same ring.

Re: Airbus And Boeing 2019 Orders

Still no NK order? Was supposed to happen this summer, and it never did... Dragging their feet longer will halt their future growth plans because they won't be able to secure any new factory aircraft now before 2024-25 probably. They can limp along the used market for a bit, but the A319s are gettin...

Re: WN Practices Sustainable?

But NK, and F9 are only getting more aircraft every month and are adding more routes to WN cities where they have had very strong market share. Prime example is NK. They opened up AUS with a very aggressive 9 routes, and BNA will open with 7 routes. NK has also encroached on monopoly routes that WN...

Re: WN Practices Sustainable?

ULCC are slowly eating into WN market share. They have a unique Product that had worked for many years, and that's great. But NK, and F9 are only getting more aircraft every month and are adding more routes to WN cities where they have had very strong market share. Prime example is NK. They opened u...

Re: Spirit taking a beating today

The new CEO should have known better. They planned poorly for the summer schedule. They increased the hours aircraft were flying, without having spares for bad weather. It was going to fail from the beginning...

Re: WN to close EWR

SteveXC500 wrote:

I fear this is what WN will eventually do in MSP. They don't grow any here at all. What I do not know is how profitable MSP is for WN.

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

Where is the NK order? They must be playing hardball, between Boeing and Airbus. They need to order at least 150-200 frames to continue the growth. NK is one of the largest known orders out there. IAG was a surprise, expected next year. AF/KLM is overall expected to order more than NK, but will neg...

Re: Paris Air Show 2019: Airbus News and Orders Thread

Where is the NK order? They must be playing hardball, between Boeing and Airbus.

They need to order at least 150-200 frames to continue the growth.

Re: F9 Could Use A321XLR Order for Transatlantic

I agree with earlier posts. F9 does not have the feeding network to fill these planes up when you run 2-4x weekly service to many of your destinations. Now, an airline with a very fast growing Network, that "could" make it work, would be NK. This plane is perfect for BWI to Europe and they...

Re: AC future routes out of YVR

Hourly 767 Rouge service to BLI. 10x daily for the connecting pax!

Re: United Former CFO to Launch a New U.S. Budget Airline

They shall name it....."TED".... Brilliant! Let's order 450 planes at the air show in Paris!

Re: Southwest customers unhappy about growing cancellations

So my next question is, why WN isn't calling up Miami Air and other charter carriers to backfill some of their flying? They should be lighting up any charter carrier that has 737's etc, to help them maintain schedule integrity to the best of their abilities. Airlines have done this method for far le...

Re: Spirit Announces SMF

NK could really put pressure out west on WN if they were to add LAS-GEG/BOI into the fray. That would really enhance their Network out west even further, outside of the cities mentioned above already.

Re: B6 Situation

NK has a lot of cash in the bank. The pros for an NK/B6 tie up would be: #1 Super Carrier in FLL (WN would begin struggling) #2 Gives NK access to massive HUBS in BOS/JFK #3 Would become one of the world's largest ULCC with the combined fleet. #4 B6 Shareholders will reap the rewards of an ULCC Busi...

Re: B6 Situation

NK has a lot of cash in the bank. The pros for an NK/B6 tie up would be: #1 Super Carrier in FLL (WN would begin struggling) #2 Gives NK access to massive HUBS in BOS/JFK #3 Would become one of the world's largest ULCC with the combined fleet. #4 B6 Shareholders will reap the rewards of an ULCC Busi...

Re: AA retaliates against NK, ups frequencies on CLT-BWI/FLL/MCO/EWR, plans more growth

What NK is today, is much like WN used to be in the 90's and early 2000s. Instead of the Southwest effect on routes, it's now, the "Spirit Effect." NK did their research, and knew what they were up against. They are calculating that the reward is above the risk. I believe that NK will dig ...

Re: Spirit Airlines Network Thread - 2019

There is still a ton of room for growth. NK cities that could be highly likely domestic will be BNA/ MKE/ ABQ/ STL/ ROC/ GRR/ SDF Those market's would fit good and help round out their Network a tad more. But there are plenty of aircraft coming in 2019, so there will be more cities to come! My wildc...

Re: Flair Adds Canada-US Routes (MCO/PIE/MIA/AZA/PSP/LAS)

It takes new Airlines years to turn a profit normally and Flair in Canada isn't any different. They are going thru some growing pains, but if they stay the course and build up their Network and long term investments in themselves, they can become a solid airline and a solid product.

Re: Spirit Airlines Announcement?

This was just some free PR for NK. Drive up the excitement for a WiFi announcement? Did they think this would drive up the stock price or something? WiFi has become a standard among airlines and this isn't something Earth shattering as a large plane order, a merger or something very different to wha...

Re: BOG-ORD on AV finally launches

I'm sorry, but a 319 is just too small of an aircraft to be flying that route. They could grab more connecting traffic if they went to at least a 330. Now, to the Wamos topic. I have flown them BOG to JFK twice this year. The service is good, especially since there are a few actual AV flight attenda...

Re: What's next for Spirit?

NK can be a stand alone carrier. I'm sure over the years there are a lot of pointing of an F9 tie up. But that keeps getting pushed back as the years go on. There is probably some Grand Master plan somewhere that is kept close to the best for what they have planned. The 22 orders that AA cancelled f...

Re: What's next for Spirit?

NK still has plenty of growth opportunities, but the folks in Miramar are keeping those plans close to the vest. DTW has seen some growth but seasonal is just management throwing darts out there to see if it sticks. The prime market for NK would be PHX. But they seem to just not care about it. The S...

Re: What's next for Spirit?

NK has been to ISP in the past. It would not be a brand new city for them, just a return.
I do find the possibility of ROC very interesting if that is true.
I like the odds of RDU before BNA. Only because the CEO is old Airtran and a lot of the cities added were Airtran cities, just saying

Re: What's next for Spirit?

The solid rumor mill is with all the planes NK is getting over the next few months, you will have to fly them somewhere. 4 new domestic cities and 4 international cities to be announced within the coming months. This is all speculation for all of us, but that's what makes a.net fun!

Re: What's next for Spirit?

There was a rumored 5th daily on the route, but it may not happen till spring time. It seems like NK is all in on MCO

Re: What's next for Spirit?

Spirit is a big player on the DTW to FLL route, but the biggest route they are owning is on the DTW to MCO route. NK packs 321's on the route. With multiple 321's daily in high season.

Re: What's next for Spirit?

I know that SEA to LAX is down to one flight daily, and the 2nd flight is 5x weekly. I'm not sure where you have the information that SEA to LAX got pulled on Nov 9

Re: What's next for Spirit?

SEA to LAX is not on the chopping block, I am not sure where some of you heard that rumor from. Out of SEA the seasonal BWI flight has been pretty well accepted. Let's remember that NK still is a newer entrant to SEA. It takes time for a customer base to grow in a city. On another note, yes, NK has ...

Re: When will SAT have its day?

Well, rumors have been floating around that NK is going to announce 2 or 3 new cities by the end of the year. A few new aircraft coming to the fleet and SAT is one of those cities heavily rumored. It would be a great addition to the NK network as NK flew it years ago. Not as breathtaking as other ai...

Re: NK pilots to vote on strike option

NK pilots are also looking for profit sharing. When NK is the most profitable per pax airline in the states, why wouldn't the employees want a piece of the profits? And the Flight attendant group at NK has a "me too" clause in their current contract. So if the pilots get profit sharing, so...

Re: JetBlue pilot union/B6ALPA files for mediation with NMB

NK pilots in the same current fight with management.

Re: Frontier Schedule Update

Maybe there is a merger on the horizon? Why publish a new schedule if you are about to be bought out or merged with somone else? With the announced LAS crew base, slight rumors around the industry think that F9 and G4 might tie the knot. From an operations standpoint, F9 is going to smaller markets ...

Re: Frontier Schedule Update

So, F9 is shady about their schedules? Lol

Re: CMH "Exciting Announcement" May 30th

It has gotta be NK. If you look at the timing, NK just announced more CUN services in November. July to November there is nothing new announced yet, so that is a long gap. NK usually adds new routes or cities every month. With such a large gap, there has to be something coming. Let's remember that t...

Re: New MCI Single Terminal Proposal

MCI is a dump. Plain and simple. Old design. Cramped areas, food selection in some terminals is a joke. Put down the kool-aid people, stop living in the past. Embrace growth and embrace the future! If Kansas City ever wants to become a world class city and attract more business and tourism, they nee...

Re: SEA...those upgrades are really needed

Greater Seattle area needs a viable 2nd airport. Due to the growth of the area the last 20 years, Sea-Tac is not going to be enough. Paine Field would be brilliant if all those people who live close to it would stop bitching about everything there. Its annoying...

Re: Spirit Airlines Labor Trouble brewing?

Already 25 cxl for Monday. This will be another long week ahead for the airline unless they figure something out.

Re: Spirit Airlines Labor Trouble brewing?

There have been hundreds of cxl flights rhe last 4 days. It will be a long summer for NK if they dont figure something out.

Re: Spirit Airlines Labor Trouble brewing?

Well NK has the lowest CASM in the industry right now. The pay doesn't have to be at the top scale but as the cost of living goes up, so does what you need to pay your employees. NK has something like just under 1 bil in unrestricted cash on hand. And the pilots know that.

Re: Spirit Airlines Labor Trouble brewing?

Correct Enilria. The NK pilots are ticked off. Company is not offering them a fair contract. Most of the NEO's are back online now.
This is a bitter labor dispute at NK with their pilots right now. F9 is going thru thing with their pilots. First year F/O pay is a joke.

Re: Will Southwest Airlines ever revive service to Jackson, Mississippi?

NK will not be coming to JAN any time soon. There are soooo many more cities and routes that would bring the ULCC like NK and F9 more revenue. JAN would be near the bottom of the list for now at NK. Places like STL, BNA, AUS, RDU, IND, CMH, MKE, SLC, JAX, and others would be a higher priority and la...

Re: FAs Disarming Doors Before Gate Arrival?

Well i have never seen that myself. All procedures here stateside are to wait till the aircraft is at a complete stop before disarming the L1 door. Then when the door is open, at least where i am, then you make an all call to disarm the others. The issue id have with them disarming the doors as the ...

Re: Spirit Airlines A320NEO Engine issues

NK is the launch customer for the Pratts. So of course a new engine will have its kinks. Mid-Air shutdown isn't a pretty situation, but im confident the Pratt folks will hit all the data they can to figure out if that particular engine is a lemon, or if it's an issue with all the Pratts

Re: Hatchet job on Spirit Airlines

Those who like to spend more, and get more, then great for you! ULCC are for the savy money saver consumer. But for posts and people just to bash a successful business model, is just silliness. G4 has had some questionable issues in the last year with those old tired mad dogs. But still a safe airli...

Re: Hatchet job on Spirit Airlines

So the Spirit Airlines bashing continues eh? Well, every airline has a policy, be at the gate, x amount of minutes before departure time and the flight is closed period. Now, for some of you who say" oh I'm soo smart not to fly Spirit." You are ignorant, and just follow the chimes of socia...

Re: Donald Trump 757 - Use, Store, Sell?

"All I want for my birthday, is 757-400 MAX" :]

Re: Southwest Leaving Secondary Markets?

DAY is a different situation. It has been talked about for years that WN would move their ops to CVG. But the issue now is that G4 and F9 are entrenched in that market since DL dehubbed. So they will battle the ULCC there who have had quite a bit of success there now. DAY just has 3 flights to MDW n...

Re: NK makes first Airbus 320neo revenue flight today from DTW to LAX

Oh it happened lol. I just dont know how to post a picture on here as a reply ☺ I figured NK put it on a longer route to start seeing how much fuel savings they are truely getting. I think NK will be using them on all transcons in the future as they keep getting more. That would free up more A319s f...

NK makes first Airbus 320neo revenue flight today from DTW to LAX

Today marks a bit of aviation history as NK operated the first ever Airbus 320 flight from DTW to LAX. I personally was on the aircraft and the ride was much quieter than the current Airbus aircraft and really look forward to seeing the 55 more that NK will be receiving over the next few years. Tail...

Re: Spirit Airlines starts service to CAK

Other way around sir, G4 announced it's bailing after NK came to town. I guess G4 wasn't willing to fight on the routes with NK.

It is interesting because NK claims that CLE flight levels will temain the same even with the CAK opening.