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by TW870
Tue Jan 16, 2018 4:26 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: A blast from the past: DC-10-30 - When VA was still VIASA…
Replies: 14
Views: 4002

Re: A blast from the past: DC-10-30 - When VA was still VIASA…

Thanks for posting. I love old trip reports. I worked N143AA many times. I remember that it retained its Viasa galleys for about a year after delivery to AA before getting retrofitted with AA galleys. In those days, some DC-10 operators, including Viasa, had the life vests stowed in the seatback ra...

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by TW870
Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA FA merger integration complaint
Replies: 64
Views: 7703

Re: UA FA merger integration complaint

Why not make the ‘lead flight attendant/pursuer role’ a management role? As I understand it this isn’t the case in the US where the role goes to someone trained and senior on the day. Next week they work economy galley on a 737. In AU/NZ with NZ,QF,VA the Customer Service Manager/Inflight Service D...

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by TW870
Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear
Replies: 65
Views: 11633

Re: JFK Diverting Flights due to shear

Now MU587 is diverting to IAD after only a couple of circles. Looks like they sat at Dulles for 3 hours and went back to JFK, and after a few more circles are short final. There is a break between lines right now so it looks like they are getting some of the diversions in, but all flights are held ...

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by TW870
Sun Jan 07, 2018 3:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northeast USA Winter Storm 1/4 Thread
Replies: 313
Views: 28817

Re: Northeast USA Winter Storm 1/4 Thread

Between the long wait times for gates and additional diversions two days post-storm; I'm surprised the ongoing meltdown at JFK isn't being discussed more. Complete failure by the Port Authority of NYNJ in properly managing this whole event. Hard to believe that LGA, BOS and EWR are all pretty much ...

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by TW870
Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Northeast USA Winter Storm 1/4 Thread
Replies: 313
Views: 28817

Re: Northeast Winter Storm 1/4 Thread

watching the Spurs v West Ham game, half time they showed some video of Boston, after seeing that I have to wonder why airlines even tried to run flights into the area just to leave pax, crew and aircraft stranded. I think that the snow intensity is even worse than expected - especially in the New ...

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by TW870
Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What airline? 707 at DTW, 1970's
Replies: 18
Views: 3502

Re: What airline? 707 at DTW, 1970's

The late 70s and 80s was a fertile time for plane spotting at airports as legacy carriers began shedding first generation jets...707s and DC-8s. (Sadly, the Convair 880 and 990 never saw much of market in resales with a few exceptions.) 707s of such new entrant carriers as American Eagle, Guy-Ameri...

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by TW870
Fri Dec 29, 2017 4:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta ATL and MSP to HNL going to 764 and 763 this spring
Replies: 18
Views: 3389

Re: Delta ATL and MSP to HNL going to 764 and 763 this spring

It is interesting that the Hawaii long hauls now operate with a smaller gauge than in the past but with a more elaborate service, since both MSP and ATL are going Delta One up front. Was the previous 2x764 service out of ATL with Business Elite service up front, or was it just regular first class se...

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by TW870
Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/24/2017: DL Drops DAY-LGA, EK Daily to Florida, NK Cuts MSP-PHL, VR Out of PVD, WN Adds CVG-PHX
Replies: 102
Views: 15174

Re: OAG Changes 12/24/2017: DL Drops DAY-LGA, EK Daily to Florida, NK Cuts MSP-PHL, VR Out of PVD, WN Adds CVG-PHX

DAY's an excellent airport. I toured last April and we got an overview of their plans. Without going into the details of the extensive reconfiguration (I can if you want me to), there was talk from an airport official at that point that G4 was very happy at DAY and destinations 5 and 6 were a matte...

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by TW870
Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 10 LH 747-8 sitting on ramp in FRA
Replies: 62
Views: 23595

Re: 10 LH 747-8 sitting on ramp in FRA

Does demand in German long haul markets drop off further over Christmas than other European markets? I just wonder because I see that AF is operating its full normal winter schedule on JFK-CDG through the holiday, with a 772, 380, and 789 plus the DL 333. I would have thought there there would be de...

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by TW870
Sun Dec 24, 2017 5:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 12/24/2017: DL Drops DAY-LGA, EK Daily to Florida, NK Cuts MSP-PHL, VR Out of PVD, WN Adds CVG-PHX
Replies: 102
Views: 15174

Re: OAG Changes 12/24/2017: DL Drops DAY-LGA, EK Daily to Florida, NK Cuts MSP-PHL, VR Out of PVD, WN Adds CVG-PHX

*DL LGA-DAY APR 0.9>0.1 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.8>0 AUG 0.9>0 It's unfortunate the amount of cuts DAY has seen, too bad the cuts continue. I don't see DL going much lower in DAY though, this is what's left: MSP: 3xCRJ DTW: 4xCRJ ATL: 4xMD80 In comparison, from 2005: ATL: 4xMD80, 2xCRJ CVG: 2xCR7,...

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by TW870
Thu Dec 21, 2017 5:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Progress On JFK TWA Terminal 5 Hotel Project (PICS)
Replies: 78
Views: 11931

Re: Progress On JFK TWA Terminal 5 Hotel Project (PICS)

Is this downtown lounge in one world trade center open? https://www.twahotel.com/lounge It is on the hotel's promo material. Note the total fail that they use a UAL uniform to market the TWA hotel concept. This is a competitive game and I hope their google research team is better than this. They cou...

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by TW870
Thu Dec 21, 2017 4:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How to reignite regional (P2P) flying in the US?
Replies: 30
Views: 4198

Re: How to reignite regional (P2P) flying in the US?

There are some other "problems" to regional P2P flying that aren't going away: ⋅ Cars have become a lot more comfortable to travel longer distances in. What would have been a 1-hour flight in the past is now a 3-hour drive. ⋅ The need to arrive far in advance, due to s...

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by TW870
Tue Dec 19, 2017 4:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42685

Re: Power outage in ATL

Does ATL and delta need to work on their contingency planning? Absolutely. Once all the gates are occupied, and you have no information about when they might open up, 1. If an inbound flight has the fuel then return it to its origin. 2. If the flight didn't have enough fuel to return, then divert i...

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by TW870
Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta plans A350 LAX-PVG service
Replies: 38
Views: 7175

Re: Delta plans A350 LAX-PVG service

Actually, both CDG and AMS have been downgauged to the A333, so SYD still remains a possibility. The A330-300 has 293 seats compared to 291 for the 777. So not really a downgrade in terms of seats... Interesting. The A333 (presumably the HGW variant) is indeed there starting around mid-September. S...

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by TW870
Mon Dec 18, 2017 4:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42685

Re: Power outage in ATL

Also reports of deplaning using emergency slides. source? i highly doubt this happened. I think people got confused. I heard some really uninformed news reports that said people had to “slide down” emergency stairs. It sounded to me like they were using mx stands and air stair trucks which would ma...

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by TW870
Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Power outage in ATL
Replies: 401
Views: 42685

Re: Power outage in ATL

What is the actual issue that is forcing them to reduce the arrival rate? In other words, is power out on some concourses so jetways won't move? Or is power out in customs and immigration so they can't scan passports, etc.? Are all concourses impacted? A friend is on DL64 LAX-ATL having come through...

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by TW870
Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options
Replies: 377
Views: 82567

Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

So glad that Pratt's big risk on the GTF is translating into sales. I agree with other posters that this is as much a GTF story as it is a Boeing or Airbus story. I really hope this means that Delta is willing to fight for the C-Series even if the February ruling is negative and they have to wait fo...

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by TW870
Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hundreds of ATL Cancellations- Winter Weather
Replies: 78
Views: 12169

Re: Hundreds of ATL Cancellations- Winter Weather

Where are we with all the interline policy changes? Is Delta no interline with AA but yes interline with UA? I commute out of DAY. Yesterday all 4 DAY-ATL flights cancelled. Today both flights have run fine so far, but there are clearly a bunch of stuck people. This is when sending passengers to oth...

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by TW870
Fri Dec 08, 2017 4:25 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Complete Listing of Braniff Jellybean Colors Wanted
Replies: 13
Views: 1852

Re: Complete Listing of Braniff Jellybean Colors Wanted

I pulled this off an archived web page... http://web.archive.org/web/20050711080200/http://www.geocities.com/~aeromoe/fleets/bn1.html In 1965, Braniff introduced 8 solid pastel color schemes: Only one aircraft, 720 N7076, was painted Lavender. It was repainted Dark Blue one month later and the Lave...

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by TW870
Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:15 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747
Replies: 69
Views: 12339

Re: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747

I wondered if the top bids would go over 1 million miles - and it sounds like we got real close. Congrats to anyone who won and I sure wish I was going. Part of the high bids has got to be that redeemable miles are just not worth what they used to be. I was shopping business class fares for Europe n...

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by TW870
Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL's 757 cabin update
Replies: 52
Views: 6213

Re: DL's 757 cabin update

The 757 has changed drastically over time. The original Eastern and Northwest Airplanes had 3 full galleys. Flight attendants in coach worked out of the galley at door 2R and out of the aft galley. It was the United airplanes that started the trend toward less galley space and more seats, with just ...

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by TW870
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: APA: Thousands of AA flights scheduled without pilots due to system error
Replies: 129
Views: 20373

Re: APA: Thousands of AA flights scheduled without pilots due to system error

the big question for passengers, is will all flights have crews ? Pax don't care about cause just effect. It's now end of NOV. Why didn't this problem surface earlier ? Who's been asleep "at the wheel"? Surely many knew of this issue a while back. Because it didn't happen earlier. The pro...

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by TW870
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: APA: Thousands of AA flights scheduled without pilots due to system error
Replies: 129
Views: 20373

Re: APA: Thousands of AA flights scheduled without pilots due to system error

Curious... do any companies already offer 1.5x pay for holidays regardless of glitches? Yes. In the sUA flight attendant contract, there were originally 10 holidays at 2x the hourly rate for the flying done on the actual calendar holiday, and then after the bankruptcy that was lowered to I believe ...

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by TW870
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: APA: Thousands of AA flights scheduled without pilots due to system error
Replies: 129
Views: 20373

Re: APA: Thousands of AA flights scheduled without pilots due to system error

This sounds to me like normal during a peak time. It's not unusual to have a significant number of flights expected to be covered with reserves and call-backs, particularly in peaks. Further, those call-backs do have a pay bonus probably something like 1.5x. So, I'm confused about this. It sounds l...

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by TW870
Tue Nov 28, 2017 3:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LAX construction & expansion, traffic congestion
Replies: 6
Views: 2344

Re: LAX construction & expansion, traffic congestion

Just went through there for the first time in a while last week. Used the new DL T2/T3 for the first time. The Delta gate hold problem has gone away for all the times I was there. I camped out in the T2 Skyclub from about 1-4pm on a Sunday, and no DL inbounds waited for gates. While the modernist ar...

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by TW870
Thu Nov 23, 2017 12:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Report: New BER airport unlikely to open before 2021
Replies: 112
Views: 24946

Re: Report: New BER airport unliky to open before 2021

I can't read German, so I apologize if this is in the article. But is the problem still primarily the smoke and fire suppression system? Are we down to one set of issues, or are there still multiple problems? Is a tear down actually on the table with the current engineering team? I understand that w...

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by TW870
Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747
Replies: 69
Views: 12339

Re: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747

Holy sh*t one of the last leg packages is already up to 241,000 Skymiles and there are 16 days to go before the auction closes. That same package is up from 76,000 miles last night. I bet the last leg will go to a million miles. Only 10 total seats on each flight are going to be open to the public. ...

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by TW870
Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747
Replies: 69
Views: 12339

Re: Delta's Official Goodbye Itinerary for the Iconic 747

Is there any way to get on any of these flights as a paying passenger who is not an employee? In other words, I am going to bid in the Skymiles auction, but if I lose in the auction, is there a way I can pay? The Skymiles packages look like they are in Delta One, but can I just buy a ride in coach s...

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by TW870
Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How many of UA's 777's are older than their 747's?
Replies: 29
Views: 4485

Re: How many of UA's 777's are older than their 747's?

If you measured it by 777s that were delivered before the last 747-400 delivered, that would be the majority of the 777-200s. I worked the first revenue flight of a 747-400 in late-1999, and I believe we took frames into 2000. In 2000 we were in the process of getting the 6 2-class 777s for the hub-...

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by TW870
Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which US Airport Is Most Likely To Be Dehubbed?
Replies: 100
Views: 13218

Re: Which US Airport Is Most Likely To Be Dehubbed?

Lets see, MSP and DTW are what 500 miles apart? Why would you need 2 hubs so close to one another with the monster ORD hub 200 miles away. DL has a history of closing up shop and running at 1st resistance, look at how many city pairs they have abandoned. Not saying its for sure, but next big recess...

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by TW870
Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: First Delta A350 Revnue Flight T-24 Hours and Counting!!
Replies: 88
Views: 17975

Re: First Delta A350 Revnue Flight T-24 Hours and Counting!!

Not sure if it's allowed but I'm doing my best to update my blog as we go. http://gabetravels.net/live-blog-deltas-inaugural-a350-flight This is awesome. Keep updating it as I want to see what the second meal service looks like. And great shot of the Alessi heart shaped spoon! The festivities look ...

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by TW870
Thu Oct 26, 2017 3:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alitalia Files For Bankruptcy
Replies: 527
Views: 136100

Re: Alitalia Files For Bankruptcy

I am proud of Alitalia for outlasting all of the drama on this thread! People keep posting, and Alitalia keeps flying. I flew the reconfigured 777 in J this summer from FCO-JFK, and it was the most pleasant flight - with the best food - that I have had in a decade anywhere in the world. I will absol...

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by TW870
Wed Oct 11, 2017 4:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue to launch holiday mint JFK-PSP
Replies: 50
Views: 6164

Re: Jetblue to launch holiday mint JFK-PSP

My ticket from DAY-PSP this year with a stop in MSP was $900! About the same as Mint, and 2 of 4 legs on a CRJ-200. Coach the whole way. 6am departure, and the coffee maker didn't work. In the Midwest it's like deregulation never happened, except the service is worse. Mint must be nice! Brutal but ...

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by TW870
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jetblue to launch holiday mint JFK-PSP
Replies: 50
Views: 6164

Re: Jetblue to launch holiday mint JFK-PSP

This doesn't surprise me at all that B6 put Mint on this for the holiday high season. I have been vacationing in Palm Springs in March for years now, and it has gotten so much more expensive. Even the modest, modern motels are easily $300 a night. Old Las Palmas is one of the most beautiful neighbor...

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by TW870
Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 10/8/2017: VX Gone, Big SJU Cuts, AS Suspends PDX-MCI/STL for Winter
Replies: 64
Views: 11998

Re: OAG Changes 10/8/2017: VX Gone, Big SJU Cuts, AS Suspends PDX-MCI/STL for Winter

*DL JFK-LHR APR 3>2 MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2

Looks like the schedule on this is going to be 1xVS 346, 4xVS 333, 2xDL 332. Quite a bit of talk about this in the other product realignment thread.

Just for comparison today it is 3xVS 346, 1xVS 333, 1xVS 789, 3xDL 763

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by TW870
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA's new branding
Replies: 116
Views: 19130

Re: AA's new branding

I like the new logo and font - although I think none of the U.S. majors are inspiring as far as design and livery go. I think the American ticket counters are the weak link. That bizarre blue fade into white looks like a spraypaint gun ran out of juice half way up the podium. It is a terribly underw...

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by TW870
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:09 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Delta A321 First: Atlanta to Boston
Replies: 32
Views: 9462

Re: Delta A321 First: Atlanta to Boston

That dinner looks delicious! I remember the faux wood trays debuted when there was still the faux wood on the lav floors. It always felt like I was eating off the bathroom floor. The new Alessi service wear is such an improvement. Thanks for reading, and leaving a comment! I can confirm that the me...

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by TW870
Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:34 am
Forum: Trip Reports
Topic: Delta A321 First: Atlanta to Boston
Replies: 32
Views: 9462

Re: Delta A321 First: Atlanta to Boston

Excellent report, and thank you for posting! I was supposed to take my first DL 321 ride last April on the same route, but I was booked on the Friday of the great Delta meltdown and had to cancel my trip. I hear you on the crowds during boarding, and how you have to keep yelling "excuse me"...

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by TW870
Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: One of the last airworthy Boeing 747-200s flies into retirement Kalitta Air
Replies: 45
Views: 10762

Re: One of the last airworthy Boeing 747-200s flies into retirement Kalitta Air

What was the typical MTOW of a Boeing 747-200B? This document shows them ranging from 775,000 to 833,000 http://www.boeing.com/assets/pdf/commercial/airports/acaps/747_123sp.pdf This is just quick wikipedia research so other posters may be able to give more detailed information about how many frame...

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by TW870
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: One of the last airworthy Boeing 747-200s flies into retirement Kalitta Air
Replies: 45
Views: 10762

Re: One of the last airworthy Boeing 747-200s flies into retirement Kalitta Air

I am feeling old in a moment that this airplane is being called old. This is, of course, a very young 747 classic. It is one of the oddball pair of 747-222Bs that United got in 1987 - which I believe had been ordered to fly the SEA-HKG route that came prior to the Pan Am acquisition. These were lat...

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by TW870
Sun Sep 24, 2017 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic
Replies: 67
Views: 9735

Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Why all the DL cuts in SEA? With the AS meltdown, looks like DL should be adding flights. SEA-FLL caters to cruise traffic SEA-TUS/PSP loads and yields aren't there. There is little business traffic on these 2 and most of the traffic is retirees which continue to remain loyal to AS for the time bei...

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by TW870
Sun Sep 24, 2017 3:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic
Replies: 67
Views: 9735

Re: OAG Changes 9/24/2017:DL Boosts Transatlantic

Thanks as always enilria for this informative posting. I see DL's JFK-LIS is staying and starting earlier event though they are adding ATL-LIS - which goes along with wider trends on Portugal capacity bumps. Also, while SVO and ARN are gone, so far TXL has stayed. I had heard a few rumors that it di...

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by TW870
Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA retires old 777
Replies: 10
Views: 3401

Re: UA retires old 777

That's odd. UA reconfigured the fleet to 10-abreast high-density 772 only 5 months ago. Did 768UA actually get reconfigured into the two-class high density configuration, or were there some of the old PW4077-powered birds that remained in the international configuration? I agree it would be very od...

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by TW870
Sat Sep 23, 2017 11:34 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: B747-400 Pax vs. F
Replies: 21
Views: 2425

Re: B747-400 Pax vs. F

I'm not aware of any 747-100's having had any stretched upper decks! 0655365 here ya go. Ooh excellent call Spacepope and ZK-NBT. These two airplanes are so unique, as they are 747-146B(SR)(SUD). That is 3 unique designations. The only other -100Bs I can think of are the Saudia Rolls-Royce powered ...

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by TW870
Fri Sep 22, 2017 3:03 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL new summer 2018 transatlantic flights
Replies: 192
Views: 25288

Re: DL new summer 2018 transatlantic flights

I believe TWA back in the early 70's served the Azores , but not PDL, but rather the airport at Santa Maria, on a nearby island. It may have also been some sort of US military installation there, if a recall?! Yep TWA flew to SMA back then. IIRC, it was a weekly nonstop from BOS, and continued on t...

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by TW870
Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL to go all A330's on NYC-LHR From April 2018
Replies: 72
Views: 15987

Re: DL to go all A330's on NYC-LHR From April 2018

Is there a source for this? I only ask because the schedules I see still show the 767-300ER on all 3 daily flights that I can see. I agree that the A330's biz product is more spacious and thus more competitive, but this would be a big overall seat increase for the Delta-Virgin joint venture unless V...

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by TW870
Tue Sep 19, 2017 3:44 am
Forum: Site Related
Topic: Is this Forum too US centric?
Replies: 61
Views: 3362

Re: Is this Forum too US centric?

It is highly U.S. centered - which is surprising because that is not how the English language aviation media has always been. As a kid in the 1980s, I was always struck by how many of my aviation related books and magazines came out of the U.K. I had as many pictures of Tridents as I had 727s it oft...

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by TW870
Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:09 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Last C-5A Retirement
Replies: 3
Views: 1728

Re: Last C-5A Retirement

RIP the TF-39. I just read in the other thread that the last one went to the boneyard. I live near Dayton, OH right now and the last C-5A I saw in flight was a couple of years ago off Wright-Patterson. Off int the distance, too far to see which model it was, but hearing it I knew for damn sure it ha...

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by TW870
Fri Sep 15, 2017 2:05 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: C-5 Galaxy re-engine?
Replies: 13
Views: 2422

Re: C-5 Galaxy re-engine?

Already happened. All C-5B's, and C's and a handful of A's were converted to C-5M's with GE CF6-80C2 engines. The last C-5A still flying that won't be converted flew to the boneyard a few days ago. http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/aeronautics/mmro/c5m.html Thanks so much for that update. This is a ...

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by TW870
Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL Future Expansion
Replies: 516
Views: 57030

Re: DL Future Expansion

I think the development of new focus cities in the U.S. speaks as much to the immense strength of DL's AMS and CDG hubs as it does to the strength of the market in the focus city. In other words, the pull from AMS or CDG hubs (and on to tertiary Europe, south Asia, etc.) is as strong or stronger tha...

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