Re: Qatar CEO: no new Airbus or Boeing deliveries until 2022

Revelation wrote:

smartplane wrote:

OEM's, lessors and financiers have short memories when it comes to writing new business.

I would think the current situation will rewire some memories.

Re: American Freezes AAdvantage Accounts

Excellent for AA and the airlines linked to AA advantage. I hope other airlines follow suit and not just freeze but outright cancel the accounts for those violating the rules.

Re: West and Central African Aviation Thread - 2020

Nigerian officials accuse foreign airlines of diverting flights to embarrass Federal Government rather than due to faulty ILS. "Out of anger, these foreign airlines decided to go and dump their Nigerian passengers in foreign countries as a way of embarrassing the government,” the director said...

Re: BA transfers MLE to LHR; upgrades to 77W

The assets go where they make the most money. There’s no snobbery involved at BA route planning, cash is king. I would make SEZ and MRU daily year round, and MLE twice daily year round. Also send the A380 to MRU. I don't think BA take Indian Ocean holidays seriously enough year round. That would ve...

Re: Boeing 777X Testing/Production Thread - 2020

N779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 - Passing over Paine Field on its way back to Boeing Field today. https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49514497071_1b2d3ff436_c.jpg N779XW Boeing 777-9 - C/N 64240 / LN 1567 by Woodys Aeroimages , on Flickr https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49514496091_8b1...

Re: Pax downgrade due to personal weight by Thai Airways

Well, I don't quite know if this is true, or understand the technical reason was for the incident being reported at https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12303332 "Thai Airways deny Auckland women business class seats on flight because of weight", or why accom...

Re: KLM buys a used 777-300 ER and 2 AMS slots for $23M

It sounds good value though we don't know the current state of the plane and its maintenance records so KLM may need to spend a bit to get the plane flying again as well as the obvious costs of fitting it out according to KLM's requirements. The market for used 77Ws is pretty depressed so it is a b...

Re: West and Central African Aviation Thread - 2020

Anyone knows what happened with the BA flights from LHR to LOS being diverted to ACC on Monday and Tuesday (6/7 jan 2020)? Visibility in Lagos has been below minimums for RNAV approach to Runway 18R, and 18L is unavailable after sunset due to a lack of adequate lighting. The old ILS for 18R in DNMM...

Re: West and Central African Aviation Thread - 2020

Hello folks,

Anyone knows what happened with the BA flights from LHR to LOS being diverted to ACC on Monday and Tuesday (6/7 jan 2020)?

Re: The Boeing 787-10 range: how far can it stretch its wings ?

It was an equipment swap from the regular B789 so yes would've been a very light load Very? What's the seating difference? More than 50%? Because that's the only way it could be defined as "very light". The 787-10 gets a lot of hate around here. That must mean they perceive it as a threat...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

Apply it to all cargo or baggage limited routes and I agree, on the preface TK sets the scale. This is a 738 pushed to the limits on range. I propose charging for all bags. Not per kg, but a 23 kg limit, as per bag is easier to impliment. 25 Euro 1st bag, 50 2nd, 75 3rd, 100, 200, 400... Or whateve...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

Problem is that airlines have a uniform baggage policy across all routes; the fees are profitable and work fine in general. They'd need to make an exception just for Nigeria because Nigerians carry extreme amounts of luggage. The way to get around claims of discrimination is to have a uniform/world...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

To be honest, that's just poor planning on the side of TK. There is no way around it. The LOS-IST flight should be able to load every single bag. The A332 used on the route accommodates 250 Pax. I've had plenty of Africa bound / incoming flights and the bag trend varied between 1.8 and 2.5 Let us j...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

To be honest, that's just poor planning on the side of TK. There is no way around it. The LOS-IST flight should be able to load every single bag. The A332 used on the route accommodates 250 Pax. I've had plenty of Africa bound / incoming flights and the bag trend varied between 1.8 and 2.5 Let us j...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

According to my sources, the real issue here is the land border closure. Traders that would normally ship the goods from China to Benin and then smuggle them across the border have been showing up at Asian airports and attempting to check 75-90 bags a piece. They waited a few weeks to see if the bo...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

Atlwarrior wrote:

It's not like carriers are beating down the door to serve Nigeria, and I'm sure Nigeria will never try this stunt Delta's Atlanta to Lagos flight.

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

According to my sources, the real issue here is the land border closure. Traders that would normally ship the goods from China to Benin and then smuggle them across the border have been showing up at Asian airports and attempting to check 75-90 bags a piece. They waited a few weeks to see if the bo...

Re: Nigerian authorities threaten to ban Turkish Airlines

Didn't they try this stunt with Delta a while back? I want to say they had to fly a 747 on the route to get all the bags out? Yes, it was done to DL. They started the route with a 767-300ER which i remember was at the edge of payload range and bags were offloaded regularly causing chaos for pax arr...

Re: 787-10 Performs 14 Hour Commercial Flight

787-10 has 32j and 295Y as shown in Ethiad homepage. Could you please refer me to where on the etihad homepage this config is shown? If you refer to "our fleet" on etihad.com, it'll show you (up to 336 seats) for the 787 and you can then click on each seat map for the 787-9 2/3class, and ...

Re: 787-10 Performs 14 Hour Commercial Flight

SeatGuru says Etihad's 787-10 has 289 seats (22 business and 267 standard) so an 86.3% load factor is 249 passengers. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Etihad_Airways/Etihad_Airways_Boeing_787-10.php Seatguru is incorrect. EY 787 config: 787-9 has 299 seats (28J, 271Y) 787-10 has 336 seats. (32J, 3...

Re: 787-10 Performs 14 Hour Commercial Flight

Hello All, I have been informed the aircraft had a load factor of 86.3%. Regards SeatGuru says Etihad's 787-10 has 289 seats (22 business and 267 standard) so an 86.3% load factor is 249 passengers. https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Etihad_Airways/Etihad_Airways_Boeing_787-10.php Seatguru is incorr...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

What sort of flight path does JFK-SYD take? The mind boggles. If QANTAS are looking for a jet to fly into Asia, the 787-10 should be at the top of the list. QANTAS's institutional shareholders have previously raised their concerns about QANTAS not following through with the 787 order. For me an A35...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

Certainly an interesting statement by Mr Joyce "The 777-8 offers a more compelling payload proposition on London and Sydney flights, whereas the lighter A350 would be more economical to destinations such as Hong Kong and Los Angeles, providing greater flexibility, Joyce said." K, then I'l...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

Certainly an interesting statement by Mr Joyce "The 777-8 offers a more compelling payload proposition on London and Sydney flights, whereas the lighter A350 would be more economical to destinations such as Hong Kong and Los Angeles, providing greater flexibility, Joyce said." https://www....

Re: Emirates Group announces another year of profits

EK has believable annual reports as the history shoes a trend with operations, economics, and how the airline is managed: https://www.emirates.com/english/about-us/business-model/financial-transparency.aspx This isn't the great margine of 2015-2016 (see above). Or 2010-2011... Minuscule profits com...

Re: Etihad and First Class

Pretty much any airline can fill / sell a seat. It's a question of yield. And $9K round trip on 14 hour flights (e.g., DOH-NYC) almost certainly doesn't cover the cost to serve and maintain - especially when the seats still fly empty most of the time (or end up fulled with op-ups from J). It's a pu...

Re: Etihad and First Class

What will happen to that idiotic residence? Will that disappear as well? It might surprise you that it does sell, especially during the busy seasons. Pretty much any airline can fill / sell a seat. It's a question of yield. And $9K round trip on 14 hour flights (e.g., DOH-NYC) almost certainly does...

Re: Etihad and First Class

In another move of cost cutting for the airline, Etihad will remove first class from the “Majority” of its fleet from 2022. Only the A380 will remain with first class from this date on. Newer 777’s, from reg -ETK, will be reconfigured over the coming years with the new and improved business studio....

Re: Etihad and First Class

Arion640 wrote:

Aren’t the 789 F suites stupidly heavy?

Re: Etihad and First Class

In another move of cost cutting for the airline, Etihad will remove first class from the “Majority” of its fleet from 2022. Only the A380 will remain with first class from this date on. Newer 777’s, from reg -ETK, will be reconfigured over the coming years with the new and improved business studio....

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

I think "research" is a bit of a misnomer as the flight is of similar length to the existing EWR-SIN. I'm considering this a PR exercise as the main test should have been on economy passengers, since SQ "research" with premium economy and business daily. Another tell tale sign o...

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

I think "research" is a bit of a misnomer as the flight is of similar length to the existing EWR-SIN. I'm considering this a PR exercise as the main test should have been on economy passengers, since SQ "research" with premium economy and business daily. Another tell tale sign o...

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

Congratulations QF on a successful research flight. I think "research" is a bit of a misnomer as the flight is of similar length to the existing EWR-SIN. I'm considering this a PR exercise as the main test should have been on economy passengers, since SQ "research" with premium ...

Re: CASM numbers

When comparing planes from A against B in the threads a lot of post mention Cost Per Available Seat Mile (CASM) as an important denominator. The purpose of this topic is to gather actual data regarding the CASM of different planes and airlines, so it is possible to do an factual comparison regardin...

Re: Qantas plans 3 Project Sunrise research flights in Q4 2019 using 787-9's, final decision on PS by end of 2019

I am curious why they'd bother with Y at all on ULH. I don't even get the point of Y on PER-LHR. In my mind, these should be 3-class F/J/W. J probably pays for all the costs, and W/Y the profit. QF knows their market, they would have configured for their target market. It's the other way around. Y ...

Re: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

Um, what planet are you on? The 778 is a drop-in replacement for both the 777-200LR and 777-300ER depending on your configuration. That commonality with the cockpit and cabins is very valuable. The 779 DOES have direct competition from the A350-1000 384 vs. 414 is not a big PAX difference, and the ...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

If you can Ultrafan an A350-1000, you can Ultrafan a 777-9 and the 777-9 will be able to take a larger Ultrafan and as we know from the 737MAX / A320neo "technical discussions", fan size is not just everything, it is the only thing. :rotfl: :silly:[/quote] True but they are basically even...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

I'm still convinced that Airbus will need a new mid-sized mid-long range replacement of the A330 at some point down the line. Between the A330neo and 787, that market is going to be pretty much filled for the next couple of decades so I don't see a need for Airbus to move the A350 down into that ma...

Re: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service

Keeping in mind that the A35J will seat 20-30 (27 diff for Q suite on QR) seats less than current 10AB 77W in similar configs. Qatar's A35J has 46 J vs 42 of 77W. If you replace those 4 extra J with 2 rows of Y, the difference come down to 13 seats - basically a little over an extra Y row in 77W. I...

Re: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service

Real world configurations sit about 1 pax per m2. QR packs the suits tighter on the 77W, hence 27 seats on less than 15 extra m2. J getting bigger reduces the 10 abreast Y advantage, it does not make it bigger. CX must somehow have a smaller version of the 77w than QR does, where the difference is ...

Re: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service

. The difference between the A35J and B779 should be between 40 and 60 seats based on real world configs. Assuming a 3 cabin J/Y+/Y cabin. It might be higher a 2 cabin J/Y config. Real world configurations sit about 1 pax per m2. QR packs the suits tighter on the 77W, hence 27 seats on less than 15...

Re: Boeing delays 777-8X entry into service

There is only a ~10m2 difference between the two, but the A351 cabin is about 5 meters longer. Just about half that to ~10% more. Best regards Thomas How many more rows on the 779 versus the A3510, two or three which is about 4% or 6% more. With an 8% wider fuselage, I would estimate 1.04 x 1.08 = ...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

It depends - the ULR is all about being able to carry sufficient fuel for the flight without sacrificing too much revenue earning capability. On a LHR-JFK flight, there is no need to tank so much fuel - so payload is increased due to its higher MTOW. The standard A35K with lower MTOW will not be as...

Re: Rumor: Airbus to launch A350-1000ULR

Airbus A359ULR is an all premium seating aircraft that seats less than 160. So the A350k- ULR will seat 200 seats?? What will the range of a 200 seats 777- 8x be? Lets do the math. The 777-8 has a massive fuel capacity. The longer 777-9 with its fuel tanks fully filled can carry only 11t of payload...

Re: Boeing 777X Testing Thread - 2019

For some reason I still get disappointed how small the folder tips are, from all the build up my mind had pictured something a lot bigger for all the effort involved. I know this is my preconception but even so. I am sure they will look funky from the windows looking out. They are 11ft in length......

Re: Trump Hosts Meeting b/w QR and the U.S. Carriers

Open skies with the ME3 should be done away with as it is more beneficial to those carriers than US airlines. But its beneficial to U.S. airlines too so that excuse doesn't fly. B6 is a huge benefactor of this open skies agreement which is probably why DL is not happy with open skies. But at the en...

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

Lets throw this out there, could Boeing have screwed up badly enough that some time in late 2020 they are only delivering a single commercial aircraft type? How did Boeing screw up the 777x when the issue is with an engine from GE? a) Perhaps by squeezing their vendor(s) so hard, sort of forcing th...

Re: Confirmed: 777X First Flight Delayed Due GE9X Issues

A not insignificant blow for Boeing at this difficult time. However better to happen now and get it right from the start than later on. All will be forgotten about this time next year. Just like the completely flawless introduction of the 787 with no delays or groundings? Lets throw this out there,...

Re: BA pilots to strike over the summer?

What is it with European airlines and striking every other day? Because they are fighting for their rights not to be eroded away like they are being in many places around the world. Asking for further increases to salary when an annual increment surpassing inflation (note, most other UK jobs do not...

Re: How Little Cargo Revenue Really Matters.

I was looking at both DL and UA's second quarter earnings statements and it was a bit surprising how little cargo contributes to the bottom line. For example, DL had revenues of 12.5 billion dollars and cargo only added 186 million dollars to that total. Put another way, cargo represented approxima...