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by SCQ83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Zaragoza second busiest in Spain for cargo ops
Replies: 16
Views: 2274

Re: Zaragoza second busiest in Spain for cargo ops

There is 0 business case for a HSR station at ZAZ. ZAZ is a small airport https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaragoza_Airport which had 438,035 PAX in 2017. That for a city that has 664,938 residents. From my understanding, at least Ryanair, Volotea and Wizzair are subsidised by whether the city council ...

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by SCQ83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 7:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Joon take over 4 Air France Europe destinations S19
Replies: 36
Views: 7245

Re: Joon take over 4 Air France Europe destinations S19

I had forgot about Iberia Express on MAD-CDG (I knew about Vueling on MAD-CDG). There is also easyJet. So that very likely be a reason for JOON on MAD-CDG since they have to compete with 3 low-cost carriers. As for MAD-ORY on UX, I have flown that route a few times and (completely anecdotical) most ...

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by SCQ83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Joon take over 4 Air France Europe destinations S19
Replies: 36
Views: 7245

Re: Joon take over 4 Air France Europe destinations S19

In the case of MAD, Iberia (on top of Air Europa) is one of the few legacies flying to ORY. Others are BA (LCY-ORY), Alitalia (LIN-ORY) and TAP (LIS/OPO-ORY). Lufthansa, SAS, KLM... are in CDG. I wonder if that has a detrimental effect on MAD-CDG services with business people preferring MAD-ORY no m...

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by SCQ83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Joon take over 4 Air France Europe destinations S19
Replies: 36
Views: 7245

Re: Joon take over 4 Air France Europe destinations S19

What other destinations in Spain does AF serve from CDG? Seems like two biggest, MAD and BCN, have been moved to Joon. Joon has taken over BUD and now PRG, what about OTP, SOF and WAW? The only remaining AF daily "mainline" destination in Spain is BIO. And that is because it has been rece...

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by SCQ83
Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair accused of inaction over racist incident on FR9015 flight from BCN to STN
Replies: 54
Views: 7244

Re: Ryanair accused of inaction over racist incident on FR9015 flight from BCN to STN

He should have been thrown off and left to his own devices to get home. Awful inaction by the Ryanair crew. I think this is one of those times where the lack of experience of Ryanair's FA show. The FA probably got quite shocked about this whole thing and he just wanted to stop the brawl in order to...

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair accused of inaction over racist incident on FR9015 flight from BCN to STN
Replies: 54
Views: 7244

Ryanair accused of inaction over racist incident on FR9015 flight from BCN to STN

Ryanair is very quick to remove people from planes but not in this justified case. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/oct/21/ryanair-refers-racist-incident-to-police-amid-criticism-over-inaction Ryanair has referred a racist incident on one of its flights to Essex police, after facing critici...

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 2:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 261
Views: 24430

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Regarding finnishway's ideas, I could see BA on Buffalo, Columbus and Portland, ME.

San Antonio is too close to AUS and doesn't have the millennial/tech/global allure of AUS. Oklahoma/Tulsa I can't see it either.

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is DL the only US3 to operate flights to Africa?
Replies: 36
Views: 6151

Re: Why is DL the only US3 to operate flights to Africa?

The 2017 statistics look wrong, aside from the Spanish airports - which I’ll concede can be counted as African -, Addis Ababa is not on the list at all. Using 2016 stats though, that doesn’t indicate a particularly small market. 32 airports with over 1 million passengers a year and substantial grow...

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aerolíneas Estelar (Venezuela) to launch CCS-FCO
Replies: 5
Views: 1600

Re: Aerolíneas Estelar (Venezuela) to launch CCS-FCO

How very sad.. one way ticket out. Fares are so high prorbably profitable to fly back empty! A lot of them are wealthy Venezuelans that use Madrid (and Miami) as a way to keep their money away from the Venezuelan regime (purchasing properties, investing in companies, etc). For instance Sambil is a ...

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why is DL the only US3 to operate flights to Africa?
Replies: 36
Views: 6151

Re: Why is DL the only US3 to operate flights to Africa?

Africa is a very small market. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_busiest_airports_in_Africa#2017_statistics I don't know why even Canarias is there (?) but the fact that Gran Canaria and Tenerife would be Africa's 2nd and 3rd busiest airports only behind JNB is quite telling on how irrelevan...

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why are the US3 so weak in India and China?
Replies: 72
Views: 7310

Re: Why are the US3 so weak in India and China?

That is also the case for major European airlines. Their footprint is also quite tiny in India/China. Same reasons that would apply to US3 (yields, government backing).

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 21, 2018 6:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Icelandair cockpit window "shattered", emergency landing at CFB Bagotville
Replies: 32
Views: 8397

Re: Icelandair cockpit window "shattered", emergency landing at CFB Bagotville

It doesn't look that exotic to me. According to Wiki, that airport has flights to YUL and sun destinations in the Caribbean (Cancún, etc). And Saguenay is about 150,000 residents. So for a city that size in Canada, I wouldn't call it exactly the "middle of nowhere". OT, but I am surprised ...

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by SCQ83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:48 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Unusual airline routes
Replies: 73
Views: 3943

Re: Unusual airline routes

Well PHE-DPS is also pretty strange... Is it strange because of the size of Port Hedland? Bali is one of the favorite holiday destinations for Australians. And it's only two hours flight from PHE. It also saves time transiting at DPS rather than backtracking to PER when people from Port Hedland goi...

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by SCQ83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European aviation in a over supply situation?
Replies: 34
Views: 5612

Re: European aviation in a over supply situation?

I don't think the European market has changed that much from ten years ago. Which legacy carriers have joined groups? I can think only of IAG that have acquired Aer Lingus and ate BMI. On the other hand, carriers like Lufthansa have sold their stake in things like Luxair that now are completely inde...

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by SCQ83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 261
Views: 24430

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Silverstreak wrote:
I don't mean to insult - but what attraction does St. Louis have to a European?


The only time you hear about St Louis in Europe if when that "the most dangerous cities in the world" chart is released every year.

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by SCQ83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: European aviation in a over supply situation?
Replies: 34
Views: 5612

Re: European aviation in a over supply situation?

I think it is obvious there is oversupply. A similar situation to the previous financial crisis (2008/09) that led to a few bankruptcies and absorptions years a few years later (Spanair, MALEV, BMI...). 1. There are a lot of routes with multiple carriers that could probably be served by one the most...

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by SCQ83
Sat Oct 20, 2018 7:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 261
Views: 24430

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

I'm not questioning BA's route planning ability. I am pointing out that STL has a larger local economy than New Orleans, Nashville, Austin, Pittsburgh, Charleston and Indianapolis yet those cities are willing to pony up the cash, so they get the route. Is STL's economy today larger than Austin's (s...

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by SCQ83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 261
Views: 24430

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Can we chill with this "CHS is a mecca for tourism and industry" Let's look at the facts, shall we: It is half the size of the market of CMH. If you add CHS+SAV, it is not far away from the top. This is also a premium holiday market that is easy to stimulate (non-stop flight, holiday pack...

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by SCQ83
Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:57 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Are we in a turning point in new air routes?
Replies: 8
Views: 776

Re: Are we in a turning point in new air routes?

BTW you forgot to list TP dropping VGO, LCG, OVD if you really want to go there. I didn't mean that, but that is a favourite of mine :D On the other hand now in the main forum it is being discussed Air Belgium and FlyBe on the verge of liquidation. It seems (at least in Europe) there is always a lo...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines to start Oslo-Asmara
Replies: 32
Views: 4293

Re: Ethiopian Airlines to start Oslo-Asmara

Guess ET wants a piece of the refugee repatriation business. There are thousands of Eritreans and Ethiopians who've had their asylum application rejected, or whom the Norwegians ascertain are no longer at threat in their homeland and thus no longer eligble for asylum. Isn't there a maximum number o...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC
Replies: 261
Views: 24430

Re: BA to Start London Heathrow to Charleston, SC

Interesting. CHS could also be a potential route for Condor out of FRA.

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways announce S19 flights from LHR to Bastia and Preveza
Replies: 9
Views: 1260

Re: British Airways announce S19 flights from LHR to Bastia and Preveza

Yes I agree. Huge amounts of Asian tourists in the summer too. It would have to be a night stopping service to capture Asian and NA transfer traffic. LHR 1800 DBV 2145 DBV 0700 LHR 0900 Iberia flies three daily (!) in summer MAD-DBV with many PAX being connections from the Americas. That new AA PHL...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways announce S19 flights from LHR to Bastia and Preveza
Replies: 9
Views: 1260

Re: British Airways announce S19 flights from LHR to Bastia and Preveza

Out of interest, how do they decide, with these types of routes, whether they operate them out of LHR or LGW? Traditionally, LGW has been the 'bucket and spade' route airport, but it seems more and more flights are being offered from LHR too. BA now fly the following bucket and spade routes on a se...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cobalt Air In Trouble
Replies: 43
Views: 7408

Re: Cobalt Air In Trouble

I am not sure Cyprus a very seasonal market can really sustain an indigenous airline long term. In that case makes me curious how Air Malta has survived so many decades when neighboring Cyprus has now lost its second national airline in recent years. Interesting question! Isn't Air Malta a governme...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:24 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Are we in a turning point in new air routes?
Replies: 8
Views: 776

Re: Are we in a turning point in new air routes?

Looking at the main forum now. Chopped routes/orders: Etihad to cancel a "significant amount" of A350 Order according to Aviation Analyst Cobalt Air In Trouble Ethiopian drop LAX United ends Hamburg for good Aeromexico axes MEX-BOS/PDX/IAD + MTY-LAS + GDL-SJC WW ending STL, CVG, CLE New ro...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:08 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines to start Oslo-Asmara
Replies: 32
Views: 4293

Re: Ethiopian Airlines to start Oslo-Asmara

Looking at what ET has done with other routes it intends to begin via ASM (namely LHR, FCO, MXP,) it is using the daytime flights out of ADD to stop over at ASM and continue on to these cities. These daytime flights have not much feed from other African destinations like the night time flights do, ...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Cobalt Air In Trouble
Replies: 43
Views: 7408

Re: Cobalt Air In Trouble

Correct Cyprus has two remaining carriers as in Cyprus (Charlie) Airways which is owned by S7 Airways and TUS Air who apparently are also in a difficult financial situation according to a recent article on ch.aviation. It is sad, but it always seemed to me the situation was unsustainable. Cobalt, (...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian Airlines to start Oslo-Asmara
Replies: 32
Views: 4293

Re: Ethiopian Airlines to start Oslo-Asmara

This is a really odd route. So Ethiopian Airlines, which has a hub in ADD and is the flag carrier of Ethiopia, is adding a non-stop flight from ASM to Oslo, but their own ADD-OSL is via ARN? Wouldn't it make more sense to make first ADD-OSL non-stop? If the Eritrean community is so large, they could...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A second airport at Madrid
Replies: 19
Views: 2262

Re: A second airport at Madrid

MAD will be expanded to 80M PAX and this year will close with 58M PAX. So there are still 22M PAX to fill. Until MAD is at capacity I don't see the need for this second airport. Other than economic incentives, I can't think why Ryanair would like to establish a strong presence there instead of being...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 17, 2018 5:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ethiopian drop LAX
Replies: 71
Views: 11121

Re: Ethiopian drop LAX

Will they sell 5th freedom rights on MAD-DUB?

How many times has MAD been changed? I remember it has been routed ADD-FCO-MAD, ADD-MAD, ADD-BCN-MAD (never flown), ADD-MAD-BCN, ADD-LIS-MAD (never flown), ADD-MAD-LIS (never flown) and now ADD-MAD-DUB.

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by SCQ83
Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

As much as this data is interesting and valid, careful cause even the most visited city in Spain (BCN), which hosts nearly 30 million tourists every year, half of them only spend around 8 hours in the city. I wouldn't be surprised to tourists coming in to the North of Spain through SDR or EAS to vi...

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by SCQ83
Sat Oct 13, 2018 6:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

In the case of Lugo, SCQ is undoubtedly its reference airport due to the Camino and the strong links existing between the two cities (for instance, the University of Santiago de Compostela has campuses in both Santiago and Lugo). The "Camino Francés" crosses the whole province so it means ...

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by SCQ83
Fri Oct 12, 2018 12:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

This "my city has XXX,XXX people" in 2018 is no-sense. Tourism growth is the main driver for airline growth in the 21st century, specially in mature markets like Western Europe. That is why you have Qatar Airways in Mykonos (pop 10,000) and American Airlines in Dubrovnik (pop. 40,000). And...

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by SCQ83
Fri Oct 12, 2018 6:06 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Multi-airport cities: Best and worst airport-to-airport connections
Replies: 27
Views: 1015

Re: Multi-airport cities: Best and worst airport-to-airport connections

I self-connected once between MXP and BGY. There is a dedicated bus that does not go through Milan (I recall they stopped somewhere, maybe Monza?). So it is actually MXP-Monza-BGY serving the residents of Monza for both airports. Quite smart. Yet the trek is quite long and expensive and there are fe...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

Bilbao is also probably the closest proper airport to San Sebastian and Pamplona, which are huge touristy destinations, particularly for Americans. Pamplona is not particularly popular outside San Fermines. Btw those are the number of overnight stays by city in Northern Spain in 2017 only for inter...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

If TP ever ends up doing SCQ, it will be because of business links and international connections at LIS, not Portuguese tourists at SCQ - many of those in the city walk there, and the rest just drive. You are right TAP is probably not the most conductive carrier for city breaks. But Aer Lingus (now...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 11, 2018 1:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

The ATR-72 freed from those services will be used in 4 new daily services in the "Ponte Aerea" between LIS and OPO. LIS-OPO will become 18 daily (!) each way on TAP. So the lack of crew was just a lame excuse to chop those routes. Not necessarily. There's a big different in crew schedulin...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

The ATR-72 freed from those services will be used in 4 new daily services in the "Ponte Aerea" between LIS and OPO. LIS-OPO will become 18 daily (!) each way on TAP. So the lack of crew was just a lame excuse to chop those routes. https://www.farodevigo.es/gran-vigo/2018/10/11/tap-aumentar...

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by SCQ83
Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:27 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Is LEVEL Airlines A Failure?
Replies: 15
Views: 2311

Re: Is LEVEL Airlines A Failure?

Barcelona is a low-cost destination targeted at low-cost tourists. Hence the low ticket prices on LEVEL. Everything is connected!

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

Aax1 wrote:
Why has OVD lost all it's international routes this year? Vueling LGW/CDG routes and easyJet STN route are all also ending this year.


Also Iberia Express to LHR and easyJet to GVA.

Subsidies ended, airliners walked away.

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 2:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

Unless things have changed since I lived there, I'm pretty sure the subsidy for domestic travel is only 50%. If so, I think claiming the reason for starting two new routes is an extremely niche northern-Portuguese community in the Canaries wanting a cheaper loophole to visit home is a bit of a stre...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain
Replies: 46
Views: 6713

Re: TAP Portugal cuts 3 routes in north Spain

According to the same newspaper in the OP's link, TAP would eventually consider starting LIS-SCQ. https://www.lavozdegalicia.es/noticia/galicia/2016/09/18/galicia-prioritaria-nueva-etapa-tap/0003_201609G18P14991.htm El ingeniero brasileño Fernando Pinto (Porto Alegre, Río Grande do Sul, 1949) llegó ...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 1:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair at Luton
Replies: 26
Views: 3090

Re: Ryanair at Luton

santos wrote:
LTN-LIS is for sale
And so is VIE-MAD

I was referring LTN-LIS for the old Monarch slots btw.


OK I thought u were saying Wizzair was to start LTN-MAD next year.

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair at Luton
Replies: 26
Views: 3090

Re: Ryanair at Luton

https://wizzair.com/en-gb/information-a ... ton-base#/
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santos wrote:
Wizzair.com’


I can only see this about Lisbon... no word about Madrid.

https://wizzair.com/en-gb/information-a ... ton-base#/

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair at Luton
Replies: 26
Views: 3090

Re: Ryanair at Luton

That's actually not true. They currently fly from Vienna to Malaga and Valencia and will start flying to Madrid on 15.02. True, I was thinking about UK-Spain (which btw is the busiest international market in the world). ‘Wizz Air will start LTN-LIS early next year and also introducing Madrid’ But t...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair at Luton
Replies: 26
Views: 3090

Re: Ryanair at Luton

Unless they are launching these destinations from Luton as a preemptive strike against Wizz Air. Wizz Air does not have routes between Western Europe and Spain. London to ALC or AGP can be easily 20 to 25 flights a day each in summer. That means that maybe LTN is 4-5-6 daily on easyJet or TUI. So t...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Arabian aviation thread - 2018
Replies: 220
Views: 18239

Re: Arabian aviation thread - 2018

- Etihad / Saudia plans codeshare partnership from late-Oct 2018. That is not surprising looking at how close the governments of Saudi and Abu Dhabi are. In many ways closer than Abu Dhabi and Dubai. Maybe a way to keep Etihad independent and from being absorbed by Emirates in the long term is by f...

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by SCQ83
Wed Oct 10, 2018 6:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Ryanair at Luton
Replies: 26
Views: 3090

Re: Ryanair at Luton

I don't see how this is related to Wizz Air. The only competing new route is ATH. Ryanair has always had a presence in Luton as well as in Gatwick. Those are mostly holiday/VFR routes served from multiple London airports and passengers flying to ALC or AGP just choose the most convenient airport to ...

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by SCQ83
Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Milan Linate to close for 3 months Summer 2019 - runway work
Replies: 48
Views: 6398

Re: Milan Linate to close for 3 months Summer 2019 - runway work

Madrid is dead during the summer . That was true, until the city raised the interest of millions of turists that visit the city each year. Madrillians disappear and go on holiday, but the city is as busy as ever. Those times when one could walk along an empty Gran Vía are gone. Exactly. Madrid is f...

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