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by factsonly
Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:07 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Late Evening LON-AMS Flights
Replies: 15
Views: 1971

Re: Late Evening LON-AMS Flights

I know the airports have curfews, but those aren't nearly as early as the current late LON-AMS flights. Also, AMS is of course an hour later than Londen. This means a 23:00 flight wouldn't arrive at AMS until around 01:00. The reasons are relatively straightforward. - Noise rules - Demand - Time 1....

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by factsonly
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Air France to axe CAN
Replies: 23
Views: 4504

Re: Air France to axe CAN

Let's not forget that KLM still operates to CAN. Traffic from Paris can go through Amsterdam. KLM has never operated to CAN. CZ operates a daily A333 CAN-AMS-CAN in codeshare with KL. Both airlines have announced that they will continue their close cooperation irrespective of CZ leaving SKYTEAM. CZ...

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by factsonly
Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BE being bought for £2.2m by a consortium including VS, Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital
Replies: 326
Views: 53408

Re: Updated: VS To Be Largest Shareholder In New Airline Group Comprising BE And RE

FlyBe has net assets at 118m !! In addition to paying UKP 2.2 Million for FlyBe, the press also states: 'The consortium (Virgin Atlantic, Stobart, Cyrus Capital) will provide a 20 million pound bridging loan facility to support Flybe's working capital requirements and up to 80 million pounds of fund...

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by factsonly
Sun Jan 06, 2019 9:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Financial Discussion Thread
Replies: 399
Views: 63744

Re: WOW Financial Discussion Thread

Sunday, January 6th, 2019: In the A333 days, WOW's largest European destinations were AMS and CDG, both with 2x daily A333/A321 services in Summer. Now the A333 aircraft have been returned to lessors, it seems WOW is combining the two destinations with extra capacity to handle A333 volume bookings. ...

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by factsonly
Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:31 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS
Replies: 22
Views: 2752

Re: Unique Flights ex-LON or ex-AMS

Well, you could try the following:

- LHR-MAD on a BA B772 or IB A346
- MAD-AMS on UX A332 or B788
- AMS-LCY on BE DH8

You may have to stay overnight somewhere.

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by factsonly
Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A321NEO engine shuts off in flight
Replies: 49
Views: 12751

Re: A321NEO engine shuts off in flight

And........... BA's A321N G-NEOR has been stuck in AMS for 24 hours.

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by factsonly
Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA/AY/BA/IB apply to have EI fully included in Atlantic JBA ATI
Replies: 40
Views: 5667

Re: AA/AY/BA/IB apply to have EI fully included in Atlantic JBA ATI

Just a few questions........?? - Are the TATL joint ventures not based on EU-US Open Skies ?? - And will the USA/EU permit UK carriers to continue in a TATL JV under different/separate bilaterals and separate legal regimes, however liberal these may be? - Are these bilaterals identical in nature. ??...

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by factsonly
Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Brexit: ‘IB wouldn’t be able to fly in Spain in case of no deal’
Replies: 139
Views: 19567

Re: Brexit: ‘IB wouldn’t be able to fly in Spain in case of no deal’

In a hard Brexit flights will drop with trade. #1 imports to the UK are from Germany, obviously a big impact. Friction and economy, a big drop in flights. #2 China, impacted as per economy. Some drop in flights, but AMS, the most logical EU airport to pick up the slack lacks slots. Cest la vie. #3 ...

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by factsonly
Sat Dec 22, 2018 7:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gatwick drone closures
Replies: 547
Views: 68097

Re: Gatwick drone closures

Super80Fan wrote:
While I'm glad it wasn't, why London Gatwick over London Heathrow? Shutting down Heathrow would have a lot more negative effects.


If it was deliberate and a pre-planned sabotage, think:

- LGW 1x runway
- LHR 2x runways - harder to shut down with 1x drone.

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by factsonly
Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gatwick drone closures
Replies: 547
Views: 68097

Re: Gatwick closed because of 2 drones

Some interesting flight patterns as a result of this 2nd LGW closing, see TOM517 from Marrakesh to Gatwick: After an initial hold over the Channel, a diversion to Luton is broken off to return to LGW. https://www.flightradar24.com/TOM517/1ef16d7f and BA2741 A319 GVA-LGW saw an initial divert to Stan...

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by factsonly
Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Gatwick drone closures
Replies: 547
Views: 68097

Re: Gatwick closed because of 2 drones

But why are some planes being sent to AMS, BRU, CDG and ORY. I will conceive that passengers could be put on the Eurostar, but is that as good an option as send them to different UK airports ?? Or is BA placing passengers on their flights to LCY and LHR ?? It makes no difference whatsoever. Take AM...

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by factsonly
Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BE being bought for £2.2m by a consortium including VS, Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital
Replies: 326
Views: 53408

Re: Sky News: Virgin Atlantic and Flybe in talks

Any updates on these VS/BE talks? Seems to have gone quiet recently. VIRGIN ATLANTIC PRESS 19 December 2018: Following our statement on 23 November 2018, Virgin Atlantic confirms that we continue to review our options in respect of Flybe, including potentially making an offer for Flybe. Discussions...

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by factsonly
Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL AMS schedule for S19
Replies: 76
Views: 12603

Re: DL AMS schedule for S19

US Big 3 airlines at London Heathrow, Paris Charles de Gaulle, Amsterdam and Frankfurt in Summer 2019 (Daily Frequencies): TOTAL London Heathrow - 48: AA21 DL10 UA17 Paris Charles de Gaulle - 26: AA7, DL14, UA5 Amsterdam - 28: AA2, DL21, UA5 Frankfurt - 14: AA2, DL3, UA9 hmm, Frankfurt is the odd o...

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by factsonly
Sun Dec 16, 2018 2:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL AMS schedule for S19
Replies: 76
Views: 12603

Re: DL AMS schedule for S19

I think the AF labor issue someone pointed out is the most likely explanation for disproportionate DL US-AMS and AF CDG-US flights compared to their JV partners at those airports. It is a bit more than that. Though AMS and CDG are very a similar in passenger numbers, the hubs see very different vol...

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by factsonly
Sat Dec 15, 2018 1:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: DL AMS schedule for S19
Replies: 76
Views: 12603

Re: DL AMS schedule for S19

And now for the complete DL/KL AMS-USA S19 schedule = 16 destinations and 234 weekly frequencies. ATL DL 21x + KL 7x 333, 777, 333 + 777 JFK DL 14x + KL 21x 763, 333 + 747, 789, 777, 333 DTW DL 28x 359, 333, 333, 333 MSP DL 21x + KL 4xweekly 333, 333, 333 + 789 SEA DL 14x 333, 763 PDX DL 7x 333 LAX ...

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by factsonly
Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airline Environmental Efficiency Index 2018
Replies: 11
Views: 1131

Airline Environmental Efficiency Index 2018

A German Airline Index compares and ranks the carbon efficiency of the 200 largest airlines of the world. The index is based on distance flown, aircraft type, engines, winglets, seating and freight capacity, as well as load factors for both passengers and freight. The objective of this index (Atmosf...

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by factsonly
Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UK - Canada agree on post Brexit Air Service Agreement
Replies: 17
Views: 3762

Re: UK - Canada agree on post Brexit Air Service Agreement

Good. Ignore all the doom and gloom airlines were worried about. It seems pretty clear future UK air service deals will be virtual carbon copies of existing rights. Well not quite......UK airlines loose their traffic rights for non-stop service between the 27 EU nations and Canada........ as well a...

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by factsonly
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic aviation - 2018
Replies: 1264
Views: 168104

Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

Nordica has announced the closure of another set of its CRJ routes.

All operations to/from Groningen Airport in the Netherlands will be withdrawn from Dec. 28, 2018:

- GRQ-CPH 2x daily CRJ
- GRQ-MUC 1x daily CRJ

In S18 GRQ-NCE and GRQ-IBZ were also operated.

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by factsonly
Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UK - Canada agree on post Brexit Air Service Agreement
Replies: 17
Views: 3762

Re: UK - Canada agree on post Brexit Air Service Agreement

Good. Ignore all the doom and gloom airlines were worried about. It seems pretty clear future UK air service deals will be virtual carbon copies of existing rights. Well not quite......UK airlines loose their traffic rights for non-stop service between the 27 EU nations and Canada........ as well a...

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by factsonly
Sun Dec 02, 2018 8:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BE being bought for £2.2m by a consortium including VS, Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital
Replies: 326
Views: 53408

Re: Sky News: Virgin Atlantic and Flybe in talks

Support for FlyBe from unexpected quarters?? KLM has closed reservations for its 2x daily SOU-AMS route for Summer 2019, leaving FlyBe as the monopoly operator with 4x daily services. KLM continues to sell long-haul connections to SOU using its codeshare on the 4x daily FlyBe services. At 20.000 pas...

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by factsonly
Fri Nov 30, 2018 1:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018
Replies: 971
Views: 154803

Re: Delta Widebody Thread - 2018

Nov. 30 - DL18 DTW-LHR operated by A332 N851NW diverted to AMS

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by factsonly
Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 536
Views: 185210

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

According to an intern that wrote a blog for KLM, PH-BFB has logged 134.729 flight hours in 18.024 cycles. KLM also confirmed through facebook that she will be preserved at the Corenden Hotel next to Schiphol in February 2019. Wasnt that the record back in 2016? Or is this the final record? If the ...

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by factsonly
Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Rumor: WW ending India and PIT on the heels of numerous other cancelations
Replies: 78
Views: 11743

Re: Rumor: WW ending India and PIT on the heels of numerous other cancelations

27 November 2018 - WOW says farewell to 2x A333:

- A333 TF- WOW Reykjavik (KEF) - Tarbes (LDE) WW332 parked
- A333 TF-LUV Reykjavik (KEF) - Tarbes (LDE) WW330 parked

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by factsonly
Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BE being bought for £2.2m by a consortium including VS, Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital
Replies: 326
Views: 53408

Re: Sky News: Virgin Atlantic and Flybe in talks

This has DL/AF/KL written all over it. Through shareholding in AF/KL, DL is the majority owner of VS. I could see BE leasing slots to KL for Cityhopper expansion, or KL could up-gauge to larger equipment into the UK including mainline, and with BE code-sharing on routes to and from AMS (at AMS, KLM...

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by factsonly
Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM opens Wroclaw in S19
Replies: 5
Views: 1359

KLM opens Wroclaw in S19

KLM has announced it will open a daily service AMS-WRO starting May 6, 2019 operated by E175 of KLM Cityhopper: - KL271 AMS 11:50 - WRO 13:35 E175 daily - KL272 WRO 14:05 - AMS 15.55 E175 daily This is KLM's 4th destination in Poland after WAW 3x daily, GDN 2x daily, KRK 3x daily. It looks as if KLM...

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by factsonly
Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How is Air Europa doing?
Replies: 30
Views: 6140

Re: How is Air Europa doing?

IMO Air Europa works (still) because they are part of a larger group (Globalia) and they can always get the bottom of the barrel fares and the leftovers from Iberia. But whenever they try to enter mature markets, they always fail. For instance, MAD-BOS? Failed. MAD-GVA? Failed. All Airlines have ro...

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by factsonly
Tue Nov 20, 2018 8:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wide body freighter operation within Europe
Replies: 17
Views: 2597

Re: Wide body freighter operation within Europe

This is slightly off-topic, but how is crew scheduling being handled on these flights? Does their crew spend one week in Europe or do they shuttle back on passenger flights? CX flies multiple B747-8F / B747-400F to FRA each week via different routings: - HKG-FRA-HKG - HKG-FRA-AMS-HKG - HKG-AMS-FRA-...

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by factsonly
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM Amsterdam – Bogota – Cartagena – Amsterdam increase 6 / week as of NS19
Replies: 14
Views: 2440

Re: KLM Amsterdam – Bogota – Cartagena – Amsterdam increase 6 / week as of NS19

It is all about maximizing yield and profitability. KLM suffered increasing competition on Cali-Europe from AV and indirectly from others. At Cartagena there are no other operators to Europe, so the stop at CTG offers KLM: - a 200NM shorter route, so less fuel is used and lower crew hours = lower op...

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by factsonly
Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Flybe up for sale
Replies: 74
Views: 13216

Re: Flybe up for sale

KLM has a rich history with feed being provided from the UK: e.g. Air UK/KLM UK in the '80's and '90's. Acquiring Flybe would fit perfectly into that model. But KLM and Cityhopper is filling that role now. No need to buy another airline, FlyBe has 19x daily slots at AMS at present. KLM and other ai...

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by factsonly
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KL 744 phase out discussion thread
Replies: 536
Views: 185210

Re: KLM Started Phase Out Of The 747-400

A nice farewell proposal, KLM is said to consider it for the 100th anniversary celebrations next year. https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/sites/default/files/styles/artikel/public/website_633x300/slider-airlines/klm-747-retroliverycmees-jansen-1200_0.jpg Article: in Dutch Nice idea, but the wrong regi...

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by factsonly
Mon Nov 05, 2018 12:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Financial Discussion Thread
Replies: 399
Views: 63744

Re: Icelandair and WOW merging!

Icelandair intends on buying WOW, but FI shareholder approval is required.
Special AGM to be organised in the coming days.

The two brands are to operate independent of each other.

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by factsonly
Sat Nov 03, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 767 off to the scrapper 1st Nov
Replies: 136
Views: 24683

Re: BA 767 off to the scrapper 1st Nov

george77300 wrote:

Last AMS is 6th Nov I believe.



Indeed, switch-over from B763 to A320 is on November 6 / November 7 accompanied with a slight schedule change:

- 06 Nov 2018 LHR 06.30 - AMS 09.00 BA428 B763 daily
- 07 Nov 2018 LHR 06.45 - AMS 09.15 BA428 A320 daily

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by factsonly
Mon Oct 29, 2018 4:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Jet Airways to MAN
Replies: 6
Views: 1167

Re: Jet Airways to MAN

Traffic between the USA and India now has three possible transfer airports (Amsterdam, Paris and Manchester). Virgin Atlantic, as well as Air France-KLM, partners with Delta Airlines in the USA. You seem to overlook that LHR is a major 9W / DL / VS transfer airport, with many India - TATL - USA con...

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by factsonly
Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Nordic aviation - 2018
Replies: 1264
Views: 168104

Re: Nordic aviation - 2018

The Winter 2018 Schedule sees the following KLM operations for Scandinavia: 1. Aalborg: - KLM increases capacity per flight but reduces frequency, due to slot limitations at AMS. - 2x daily KLM B737 (new type) + daily 1x E190 replace 3x Cityhopper E190 and 1x E175 frequencies. 2. Alesund: - remains ...

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by factsonly
Tue Oct 23, 2018 10:49 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM closes last Air UK crew bases in UK
Replies: 23
Views: 6173

KLM closes last Air UK crew bases in UK

KLM Cityhopper has announced its decision to close the last 3x remaining crew bases in the UK. These crew bases employ 47 British pilots and cabin crew and are leftover from the former Air UK days. KLM purchased Air UK in 1997 and initially created the KLM uk brand. The KLM uk brand was absorbed in ...

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by factsonly
Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CI Announces MXP & PRG + Considering A350-1000
Replies: 13
Views: 4235

Re: CI Announces MXP & PRG + Considering A350-1000

CI has also announced that it will transition TPE-AMS-TPE from A350-900 to B77W in S19.

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by factsonly
Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:50 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airport Connectivity W18/19
Replies: 10
Views: 1398

Airport Connectivity W18/19

Anna.aero reports the following airport connectivity rankings for Winter 2018/2019: https://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Graph-1-6.png https://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Graph-2-4.png https://www.anna.aero/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Graph-3-3.png https://www.anna.aero/2018/...

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by factsonly
Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: British Airways announce S19 flights from LHR to Bastia and Preveza
Replies: 9
Views: 1534

Re: British Airways announce S19 flights from LHR to Bastia and Preveza

Following the withdrawal of the B763 on European services, BA also plan to increase LHR-AMS to 55x/week, with a new A319 Saturday ONLY service. - LHR 06:45 - AMS 09:10 BA428 A320 Daily - LHR 07:40 - AMS 10:00 BA432 A319 Saturday ONLY = New - LHR 08:20 - AMS 10:40 BA430 A320 Daily - AMS 08:15 - LHR 0...

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by factsonly
Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019
Replies: 667
Views: 83462

Re: Delta to serve Mumbai nonstop in 2019

That routing might be more complicated than the schedulers would want if an IRROPS situation arose (DTW-PVG-LAX (RON) LAX-HND-LAX-JFK-BOM-JFK-LAX-PVG (RON) PVG-DTW). A much simpler alternative is building on existing A359 ops to AMS: - DTW-AMS-JFK-BOM-JFK-AMS-DTW or through CDG as A359 will commenc...

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by factsonly
Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:36 am
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Did EK do the right thing opening a 3rd LON airport
Replies: 13
Views: 3197

Did EK do the right thing opening a 3rd LON airport

This Summer EK opened a 3rd London airport with a new DXB-STN route. The 1x daily Dubai - London Stansted B77W service is in addition to the existing 6x daily DXB-LHR and 3x daily DXB-LGW routes. EK also operates 2x daily DXB-BHX. The Birmingham catchment may be competing with the STN catchment area...

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by factsonly
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM 99 today
Replies: 12
Views: 3228

Re: KLM 99 today

The British Airways claim to a Centenary on 25 August 2019: Our History 1910 to 1919: On 25 August 1919 Aircraft Transport and Travel Limited (AT&T), a forerunner company of today’s British Airways, launched the world’s first daily international scheduled air service, between London and Paris. T...

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by factsonly
Sun Oct 07, 2018 4:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: KLM 99 today
Replies: 12
Views: 3228

Re: KLM 99 today

British Airways is desperately trying to steal KLM's Centenary in October 2019, by announcing their Centenary for August 2019!! QUOTE: 'Mary Parsons from Malvern in Worcestershire turns 100 years old on January 1, 2019, the same year that the airline also celebrates its centenary.' http://mediacentr...

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by factsonly
Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AA to AMS
Replies: 47
Views: 8495

Re: AA to AMS

I wonder overall if AA “struggles” in Amsterdam being that it’s a Skyteam fortress since they struggle in Germany against Star Alliance. If true, how come the other 'non-SKYTEAM' carrier United can do 5x daily routes USA-AMS in 2019 from: SFO, ORD, IAH, IAD, EWR. Could it be that AA's European part...

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by factsonly
Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 50 year anniversary of the Boeing 747
Replies: 200
Views: 14188

Re: 50 year anniversary of the Boeing 747

So were other SUDs direct from factory? Boeing launched the 747SUD program, when new 747 sales were very slow and the Boeing factory had excess capacity. KLM and UTA operated relatively new GE powered B747-200Bs. KLM also operated older 1971 P&W powered B747-206Bs, but these did not qualify for...

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by factsonly
Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: 50 year anniversary of the Boeing 747
Replies: 200
Views: 14188

Re: 50 years ago, the world changed forever

shankly wrote:
20/09/01 9M-MPE LHR-KUL MS
23/09/01 9M-MPB KUL-PEN MS
07/10/01 9M-MPA KUL-LHR MS

51 Boeing 747 flights over 40 years and she never ever let me down


Shankly, you probably meant to refer to MH - Malaysia Airlines.

MS is Egyptair.

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by factsonly
Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:43 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Oldest 747 still flying
Replies: 14
Views: 4286

Re: Oldest 747 still flying

Oldest B747-100 still flying: - 19667 LN.nr. 5 Boeing 747-100 EP-AJT Iran Air Force Jan 2013 (Mar 1975) Active 5-8101 Oldest B747SP still flying: - 21649 LN nr. 373 Boeing 747SP VQ-BMS Las Vegas Sands Corporation May 2008 Active A9C-HMH Oldest B743 still flying: - 23070 LN nr. 592 Boeing 747-300 HZ-...

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by factsonly
Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: KLM-Flight on September 3rd 1972 EHAM - KJFK
Replies: 7
Views: 2049

Re: KLM-Flight on September 3rd 1972 EHAM - KFJK

AMS-JFK was served by a mix of 747s and DC-8-63s. In 1971, KL651 was operated with a mix of all-economy 747s and all-economy DC-8-63s. In 1971, KL 651 and 631 seemed to operate as all-economy high season (additional) flights while the year-round KL 641 and 643 offered two-class service. KLM has ope...

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by factsonly
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:34 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trans-Atlantic Fuel Efficiency by Airline 2017
Replies: 49
Views: 7086

Re: Trans-Atlantic Fuel Efficiency by Airline 2017

Just to note that the Norwegian fuel performance efficiency is most likely inflated, as they also operate: - ORY – EWR EuroAtlantic 777-200ER replaces Norwegian 787-9, 6 weekly - FCO – EWR Privilege Style 777-200ER replaces Norwegian 787-9, 6 weekly - LGW - FLL Wamos Air A330-200 replaces Norwegian ...

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by factsonly
Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trans-Atlantic Fuel Efficiency by Airline 2017
Replies: 49
Views: 7086

Re: Trans-Atlantic Fuel Efficiency by Airline 2017

I don’t understand the purpose of this exercise. If you are traveling Y on a Norwegian 787 or Y on a KLM 787 you are having the same impact on the environment. This graph would make you believe you were being 22% more efficient traveling on Norwegian, which is patently false. The Norwegian vs KLM d...

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