The development cost in 2006 according to Airbus was approximately 18 billion euros ($22.5 billion dollars at the 2006 exchange rate). It then said in 2015 development costs were 15 billion euros ($16 billion) Since that time it is reasonable to expect they have spent more money on development (NEO ...
Jump to postTrue. But you still have to make the initial infrastructure investment for the unique model (380). So somebody had to put the money down... all for 250 aircraft.
Jump to postA few questions: 1. How many airports are 380 capable? 2. Of these airports, how many required modifications to become 380 capable? 3. What was the cost to modify these airports? (rough figures?) 4. If you total the RLI from the European taxpayers and the airport infrastructure modifications made by...
Jump to postRemarkable story
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/b ... airplanes/
Sorry is already mentioned
Back last year when Boeing announced the rate increase to 14/month there was a great deal of concern by analysts that this was unsustainable. https://leehamnews.com/2017/09/13/boeing-boost-787-rate-14mo/ What does the Anet community think now that a year has passed? Is Boeing's order book growing fa...
Jump to postPerhaps I can say that kanban is pointing out that the Boeing line system is more efficient (once the kinks are worked out and you are going for highest most cost efficient production rate), while the Airbus station system is more flexible (but may require more movement time where production is not ...
Jump to postIf we go back 7 years or so, it seems to me Airbus had to make a choice. The 320 was doing well, the 380 was doing poorly. The 330 was entering a twilight period and was competing against a new model where in the long run it would have difficulty competing (787). The 350 was going to do well, but wa...
Jump to postI speculate that the recent success in 787 sales is due to combination of 1) projected improvements in manufacturing in the future resulting in lower costs but still a reasonable margin 2) projected bundled maintenance in the future as Boeing brings more work in house and away from third parties 3) ...
Jump to posthttp://www.infodefensa.com/es/2017/12/2 ... a400m.html
I don't speak spanish but it appears they are reducing production rate next year?
I would think that the 777 wing fabrication center could also be used to produce cfrp wings for the MOM and NSA when they are launched. Would there be a reason the space and equipment could not be used for other programs? Tape laying machines can be used for different wings/fuselage barrels etc. Fou...
Jump to postThe 748F had two advantages on the A380F: 1. Nose loading 2. It wasn't delayed for pax production Add: 1. The a380 fuselage is structurally a double deck and cannot be utilized to its full size for large oddly shaped cargo 2. The a380 floors and structure/doors would have to be strengthened to suppo...
Jump to postIs this going to be a problem?
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... on-437361/
Actually, the full quote from the Boeing 2000 CMO pdf you provided on page 33 is: "Summing the projected requirements for 747-and-larger airplanes in all major travel markets reveals a total need for 1,010 airplanes over the next 20 years. Within this size category, about two-fifths of the requireme...
Jump to postwhat are the implications for its aerospace division?
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34795769
WIll R and D be cut? Capital expenditures?
The plane crashed. All reports suggest there was a software mishap. For this to happen, presumably errors in loading or running the software program occurred or there was faulty software that was insufficiently tested. What steps are normally done to test and fail-safe the software prior to integrat...
Jump to postLook, guys. It is not an A or B thing. It is a tragic plane crash where there clearly was a problem with the aircraft (it crashed). It could have been pilot error, it could have been structural, it could have been a myriad of other possibilities. However, the only information we have been given is t...
Jump to postFor educational purposes, how are software updates tested and then implemented? I presume they are ground simulated before flight testing.
Isn't there redundancy built into the system? How does something like this happen?
<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/mjoelnir" class="quote" target="_blank">mjoelnir</a> (<a href="#69" class="quote">Reply 69</a>):<br/><i>I thought the production rate was 10 fra...
Jump to postFrom Kaitak744 via Ascend database last week reply 142 12/10/2014 Basically 120 fairly confident sales (84 <acronym title="Emirates (United Arab Emirates)">EK</acronym>, 9 <acronym title="Etihad Airways (United Arab Emirates)">EY</acronym>, 4 <acronym title="Asiana Airlines (South Korea)">OZ</acrony...
Jump to postAccording to Seatguru, Qatar 787-8s have a 31 inch pitch and 17.2 inch seats.
Jump to postI am struck by how much power/influence that the Wall Street analyst evaluations seem to have. Given that it is a duopoly and neither is going to destroy the other, why go to such extremes to squeeze the last cent from the workers hides? Boeing stock is up from $70 to $120 over the last few years. I...
Jump to posthttp://www.richardaboulafia.com/shownote.asp?id=416
Pretty harsh words for management. What can be done to improve things?
GIven that Airbus has production constraints on the 350 line (110/year beginning in 2018) and is sold out until 2021 or 2022, would it not make sense for Airbus to decide to open a new FAL before they commit to an -1100? They are unable to actually get the planes out the door at the same rate as Boe...
Jump to postIt is highly likely traffic will increase over the next 15 years. More people, more middle class, more travel. However, I am not at all certain that the surge in travel passengers will be covered by VLAs. Since large twins are now approaching/surpassing 400 seats, I am wondering if the increase in c...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/astuteman" class="quote" target="_blank">astuteman</a> (<a href="#203" class="quote">Reply 203</a>):<br/><i>Quoting Mayohoo (Reply 199): Hey, it...
Jump to postActually, astuteman, the page you reference has a graph that is specifically titled "New passenger aircraft deliveries will average 733 a year" and then the narrative describes the specific number of aircraft expected to be delivered in each size category. Hey, it's your source, I only read it  ...
Jump to postAt the bottom of page 29 of the Airbus 2000 GMF you will see a forecast for:- 360 x 400+ seat aircraft from 2000 -2009, and 1 235 x 400+ seat aircraft from 2010 - 2019 Question. Isn't the 777-x expected to begin delivery in 2019-2020? So presumably the VLA numbers should reflect only the 747 family ...
Jump to postDoes anyone know what this means? Dated 5/15, 2014 Doric Refutes Amedeo Claims Doric is receiving an increasing number of inquiries regarding Amedeo, who is wrongfully using the Doric franchise and Doric track record for its own benefit. Doric is a fund manager with 60 employees and more than USD 8 ...
Jump to post<table border="0" align="CENTER" width="95%" class="quote"><tr><td><font size="2" face="ARIAL, Helvetica, Geneva" color="#9A9DA0">Quoting <a href="/profile/tortugamon" class="quote" target="_blank">tortugamon</a> (<a href="#276" class="quote">Reply 276</a>):<br/><i> Honestly I can think of multiple ...
Jump to postGood point.
What the heck, optimize the 350-800, rewing and rengine the 330. There, I have infinite power and resources. Good plan
Well, maybe a dumb question but would it be possible for Airbus to 777-x the A330? Keep the fuselage and change the wing and engines? Would that plus the cost advantage be enough to be competitive with the 787? I still think the best long term solution for Airbus would be to optimize a 350-800 with ...
Jump to postWe can speculate all we want, but I am guessing that the total Business case for a 330NEO may not be as solid as Airbus would like. The 350-800 is not popular, so it seems to be 330NEO versus doing nothing (at least according to Anet wisdom). I am not sure if the Resource outlay (engineering etc) ma...
Jump to postA 330 neo is now likely since the 350-800 is being aggressively killed off by Airbus. The line is paid for and the aircraft is good (for now) and can be sold on price and availability. In 5-7 years, if the 787 line ramps up successfully and continues with PIP then the gap begins to widen to the poin...
Jump to postThe arguments are tiresome, but I think it is safe to say the a380 is a VLA. It has 4 engines, is >20% larger than the largest proposed twin (777-9) [407/555], requires special procedures/gates/runways etc. It is clearly not selling that well but long term it at least has a chance to sell more and t...
Jump to postI would argue that the 737 and 320 are the end of the line for their design and that most of the improvement is in the engines. By 2025 I would guess that there would be significant improvements in: 1. CFRP wing (5%) 2. New generation engine (10%): say 2nd gen <acronym title="Great Falls - Internati...
Jump to postAirbus also is developing and certifying the 320 neo line in the same time frame. The core issue is can Airbus compete with optimized 787s and refreshed 777s using only the 350 line. To do so, they will have to: 1.Ramp up and increase industrilized rate to meet demand 2. Optimize a small 787 widebod...
Jump to postHow often do the extra seats come into play? Is load factor of a 100% that common in normal LCC or airline scheduling?
Jump to postIn defense of the Mayo Clinic, the policy is if you have elective care needs and you do not live in Mn, Ia, Nd, Sd, Wi, or Ill then you will be asked to seek treatment in your home state unless there is a unique issue with your care (eg: Mayo has a unique procedure ). Otherwise, it would be inundate...
Jump to postTry Frontera Grill in ORD by Rick Bayliss. Food is excellent for price.
Jump to postBoth A and B single aisles are sold out for 7-8 years. By the time they work through the backlog (which will continue to increase) they will be planning the NSA replacements for launch in the 2019-2021 time frame for first flight in the 2025-2027 time frame. The prevailing opinion in the past was th...
Jump to postActually, it is a fairly even handed article although the title is a little sensational. I think most would say the 787 has had a rough development period with delays and issues. It is now at the ramp up stage with much of its risk retired for the 787-8. It is likely the 787-9 is on firm footing, bu...
Jump to postIt is likely in 10-15 years the major advances in efficiency will continue to be the engines. What would preclude the 777-9x from doing a neo? And in 20-25 years it is likely the Y3 BWB or whatever concept will be what replaces the 777-9x. I think that it is possible that the science of aerodynamics...
Jump to postIF B achieves its 10/m by the end of 2013, then by end of 2019 it will have burned through the 850 orders it has currently. 2011-12= 45 2013 at 5/m and 7/m= 72 2014=120 2015=120 2016=120 2017=120 2018=120 2019=120 Plus 25 reworked aircraft by 2015 Total 862 One would presume that they would like to ...
Jump to postI noticed this article /n the Boeing Aero magazine. How will the a350 differ in both engine design (RR of ocurse) and electrical architecture? <a href="http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/2012_q3/2/" target="_blank">http://www.boeing.com/commercial/aeromagazine/articles/2012_q3/2/...
Jump to postStill, since one airline makes up a high percentage of the aircraft volume, you would expect the Emirates a380s to be completed at a much faster pace compared to the others simply due to the fact that there should be some familiarity with how they are being set up. It seems as though the a380 just t...
Jump to postThat is genius...the first, second, third and fourth wife was a LOL!
Jump to postSo to try and fairly summarize (first post): The 787-8 is out and after PIP and fine tuning will be a fine airplane and better than predecessors (2013). The -9 will be out (2014) and will build on the -8 experience and will likely itself be a fine airplane and better than predecessors. Rampup of bot...
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