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by strfyr51
Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier
Replies: 1311
Views: 81878

Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

Damn near anybody can understand WHY BBD resorted to price dumping but Not anybody can understand why Canada backed them up after they got called on it. . CANADA acted as if they had the RIGHT to unfair trade practicies . As if they cou;d tell the USA "Yeah We're gonna do it and you're gonna Li...

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by strfyr51
Fri Jan 19, 2018 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: E2 MRJ Scope Clause Thoughts
Replies: 25
Views: 1810

Re: E2 MRJ Scope Clause Thoughts

“76-Seat Aircraft” means aircraft configured with more than seventy (70) passenger seats but no more than seventy-six (76) passenger seats, and certificated in the United States for ninety (90) or fewer passenger seats and with a maximum United States certificated gross takeoff weight of 86,000 or ...

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by strfyr51
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:22 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier
Replies: 1311
Views: 81878

Re: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier

Going to the WTO is probably a nice gift to Trump as he will be able to spin again that the world trade system is broken, and the US should not be part of agreements like it. Gives more impetus to his push of one on one bilateral trade deals instead. The ultimate backfire for Boeing and the US, wou...

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by strfyr51
Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: U.S. Dept of Commerce backs Boeing in dispute with Bombardier
Replies: 1311
Views: 81878

Re: Boeing targets Bombardier for “price dumping” CSeries

Been reading and following most of this thread, but just wanna throw my opinion on it. I can't believe that they are imposing these tarrifs, at least in this first round of debate. It will spell disaster for the C-series. Really hoping we don't see the delta order fail because of it. Boeing is just...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:14 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: A&P Working For Major Airline
Replies: 4
Views: 494

Re: A&P Working For Major Airline

Can't speak to you about Delta, my nephew works for them and he started as a contractor at Atlanta. I wouldn't do that . I started with United as a Line mechanic and I've never looked back and now I'm retired from United. Put out your resumes and take your chances. American gave me the "Ring ar...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 126
Views: 11948

Re: United Airlines Network Thread 2018

UA needs additional mainline, about 100 more, and more large 75 seaters. The answer to both is a new 100 seater mainline, if they add an additional 88 100 seat mainline they can add an additional 70 ERJ-175s. Considering what's going on with the CSeries and the latest Boeing news perhaps they will ...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018
Replies: 125
Views: 17212

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2018

I am really, really hoping for ALL 767-300 & 400 ultimately get Polaris. There are hubs like EWR that are very 767 focused. The inconsistency if just 14 have Polaris will feel like a half baked measure. I totally get the expense involved and if it was to take another 2.5 years to do both the 76...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Airlines Network Thread 2018
Replies: 126
Views: 11948

Re: United Airlines Network Thread 2018

Is UA ever going to add CMH-SFO or are they content to run a distant fourth in Columbus? I'll start out by saying that I see Chicago-Toledo as a new United Express route, served 3x a day on E145s or CRJ200s. Where did you see this? I think he was saying he could see that as a possible addition, not...

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by strfyr51
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Norwegian switches engines on all Dreamliner aircraft
Replies: 63
Views: 21331

Re: Norwegian switches engines on all Dreamliner aircraft

Curious as to why there are issues with the blades on this one engine....seems a major cock-up by RR and a costly one to boot! Unfortunately? The material they used? Seemed like a good idea that the time. Maybe the proposed materials and alloys for the blades had a Lot of promise. But! Until Promis...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
Replies: 695
Views: 84784

Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

I'm curious for those who say that a simple stretch of the a380 (without a new wing or engine) is too expensive, doesn't the 747-8 prove the opposite? The 748 was launched with an expectation of probably only selling at best 100-200 planes. Granted Boeing didn't view it as a blockbuster like the 78...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Last Flight..Retired Aircraft...Fuel Question
Replies: 52
Views: 3555

Re: Last Flight..Retired Aircraft...Fuel Question

With the last Delta 747 parked, it got me to thinking....what happens to the thousands of gallons of unused fuel when say a 747 is parked for the last time. Does Delta empty it out, load it on a tanker truck and take it to a fuel farm?? Does someone buy it off of them and offload it???? That has to...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why use widebodies for domestic flights?
Replies: 100
Views: 14493

Re: Why use widebodies for domestic flights?

A moot point starting today...all 737s. Actually it is not a moot point the domestic 777's return to the ORD-SFO route late February and UA does run widebodies on other hub to hub routes. Placing widebodies on hub routes frees up narrowbody aircraft especially during peak travel seasons instead of ...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hawaiian to announce HNL-LGB service on Monday January 8 2018.
Replies: 95
Views: 13580

Re: Hawaiian to announce HNL-LGB service on Monday January 8 2018.

gatibosgru wrote:
Slightly OT, but what did HA use for west coast ops before the NEOs started coming in? Just the A330?


HA also flew B767's

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scoot 787 door ripped off at Changi
Replies: 20
Views: 6963

Re: Scoot 787 door ripped off at Changi

Neomax was being sarcastic and refering to Airliners tendency to write off everythinf asap. Seriously how much woudl this cost to repear? Because thus is a composite airplane? I'd say $750K- $1.2M. it wil require the interior fwd of the door to be removed at the least and mabe the door frame repair...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:21 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: SFO BA A380 takeoff on 1R?!?!
Replies: 41
Views: 5745

Re: SFO BA A380 takeoff on 1R?!?!

zeke wrote:
SFOFlightSim wrote:
Runway 1R is only 86500ft long, so I wonder is it too short for a typical A380 to takeoff??


16 miles would be long enough for any aircraft. ;)


The Runway is 8650 ft long, not 16 miles. that runway would be in Oakland if it were that long.

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:03 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: AA to phase out complimentary cabin pressurization
Replies: 5
Views: 810

Re: AA to phase out complimentary cabin pressurization

American Airlines To Phase Out Complimentary Cabin Pressurization http://www.theonion.com/article/american-airlines-to-phase-out-complimentary-cabin-35367 FT. WORTH, TX—Explaining that the costs of the service have grown too high in recent years, American Airlines announced Tuesday that it will no ...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:54 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
Replies: 695
Views: 84784

Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

I think this is a shot in the "Chops" to Emirates. Airbus knows good and well that should they cease production of the A380 that Emirates might well lose up to 35% of its value as an airline so heavily invested in the A380, and the A380 might lose up to 50% of it's value as a "white e...

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Scoot 787 door ripped off at Changi
Replies: 20
Views: 6963

Re: Scoot 787 door ripped off at Changi

yhis can be fixed. I've seen worse! depending on their insurance? the Boeing AOG team can and will for this. I saw them fix an Air China B747sp that had Far worse damage. Those guys are flat out GOOD!! and the Best I've ever seen!

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by strfyr51
Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why use widebodies for domestic flights?
Replies: 100
Views: 14493

Re: Why use widebodies for domestic flights?

The Real Question is?? Why NOT? If the passengers and freight connections are there?? It's a win-win.. How would you know the other stuff that's going on light the freight revenue? With a full load of belly freight? The passengers are pure profit. Leading up to the Christmas season in the past, We f...

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by strfyr51
Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would a HA/B6/AS Merger Work?
Replies: 78
Views: 8443

Re: HA/B6/AS Merger

I would work were any of the 3 carriers willing to subordinate themselves for the betterment of the Whole Enterprise. They would have the airplanes the route structure and the airport facilities. Now?? Would they have the Gumption to do it? I'd bet not. I worked for United before I retired. They wer...

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by strfyr51
Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:32 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: Japan orders KC-46
Replies: 5
Views: 1572

Re: Japan orders KC-46

Congrats Boeing and Japan Air Self-Defense Force! I wonder how much commonality there is between the KC-46 and the 767-derived tanker they're already operating? I would suspect not much. The KC-46 has a LOT of mods solely for the KC-46 and not reworked from the KC-135. The refueling boom, the fuel ...

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by strfyr51
Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:19 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1418
Views: 89095

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

the Japanese gave away or revealed technical secrets about previous US designed weapon systems because they thought they owned the technical aspects of what they bought. The US didn't see it that way so now they're not getting in the programs anymore to their satisfaction. That's why the P1 and not...

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by strfyr51
Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Does Boeing need to open plants outside USA?
Replies: 71
Views: 6002

Re: Does Boeing need to open plants outside USA?

Boeing Does not need a plant outside of the USA at the moment. Airbus is trying to gain market share in the USA and possibly a defence contract or two.
Boeing doesn't have that problem

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 02, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Military Aviation & Space Flight
Topic: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery
Replies: 1418
Views: 89095

Re: KC-46 Production, Testing And Delivery

the Japanese gave away or revealed technical secrets about previous US designed weapon systems because they thought they owned the technical aspects of what they bought. The US didn't see it that way so now they're not getting in the programs anymore to their satisfaction. That's why the P1 and not ...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Transitions : monitoring Airbus 2018 decisions after their 2017 Annus Horribilis
Replies: 70
Views: 10844

Re: Transitions : monitoring Airbus 2018 decisions after their 2017 Annus Horribilis

I just find it hard to believe that Airbus has themselves in this much of a "pickle" while thty're building airplanes "hand over fist". They're NOT losing money so why all the Panic?? All of this seems out of place for a company that's nowhere near the brink of collapse. Or ? Is ...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United planes overnight at Heathrow?
Replies: 41
Views: 10395

Re: United planes overnight at Heathrow?

Didn't we establish they park two overnight at LHR? I was speaking figuratively about leaving an expensive new 787 parked over night or all day. Be it 2 or more, or even just one. Even an expensive new B787 has to have regular service, It doesn't cost any more to have overnight service at LHR than ...

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by strfyr51
Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United planes overnight at Heathrow?
Replies: 41
Views: 10395

Re: United planes overnight at Heathrow?

But I cannot imagine UA leaving one parked all night. (Although they used to leave on parked all day long at GIG) Didn't we establish they park two overnight at LHR? I was speaking figuratively about leaving an expensive new 787 parked over night or all day. Be it 2 or more, or even just one. Even ...

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by strfyr51
Sat Dec 30, 2017 9:03 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Last airlines to operate more than 20 of each aircraft type
Replies: 8
Views: 889

Re: Last airlines to operate more than 20 of each aircraft type

What are in your opinion the last airline to operate more than 20 of each of the following plane types: A319CEO A320CEO A321CEO A330-300 737-700 737-800 737-900ER 757 767 777-200ER 777-300ER I know for a fact that United operates the A319,A320 CEO. the 737 series. the B757, B767, B777 -200, 200ER, ...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 29, 2017 10:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Trump Admin wont punish ME3; opts to leave open-skies alone
Replies: 153
Views: 18443

Re: Trump Admin wont punish ME3; opts to leave open-skies alone

I'm glad this "noise" is over. BUT!! do NOT expect Delta nor any other airline to vacate a double-deck Gate Just because you thought it was a "Hoot" to fly an A380 instead on the B777 you were scheduled to fly. Nobody but YOU thought that was funny and Delta got the last laugh..

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 29, 2017 9:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Would Airbus start up the A340 program again ?
Replies: 78
Views: 10340

Re: Would Airbus start up the A340 program again ?

If Airbus cancels the A380 program, woud it be any point for Airbus to start up the A340 program again? How about an Airbus 340 with new effecient engines ? WOW! That's a surprising topic. I don't think A380 was a replacement of the A340. It was a step above. If the A380 program is cancelled, Airbu...

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by strfyr51
Thu Dec 28, 2017 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal
Replies: 695
Views: 84784

Re: Reuters:Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal

I suspect that a 380 could fly for a long time, some airlines have used planes for 25 years. Is there any reason why a 380 could not do the same? 12 years and out always struck me as not all that sensible (in most cases). Is 25 years even possible? I don't much about fatigue or stress on aluminum a...

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by strfyr51
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017
Replies: 1935
Views: 313226

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Thanks! On the topic of the 737s getting the new First Class seat, I decided to write United directly and ask. They wrote me back in just about 2 hours! The person who wrote me said there is no talk of a new First Class seat in the 737 fleet. The rep who wrote went onto say that they are receiving ...

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by strfyr51
Wed Dec 27, 2017 7:46 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: New aircraft Mx’s vocabulary
Replies: 19
Views: 1538

Re: New aircraft Mx’s vocabulary

Hi: sorry but I disagree with batlegroup62: U.S’s Law says that: 1. 121.701 Maintenance log: Aircraft. (a) Each person who takes action in the case of a reported or observed fail- ure or malfunction of an airframe, en- gine, propeller, or appliance that is critical to the safety of flight shall mak...

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by strfyr51
Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017
Replies: 1935
Views: 313226

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Who did you think? Neither of your profiles nor signature lines say you're United employees... I can guess, but I don't really know who either of you are speaking on behalf of when you say "our." Is "our" United? An airplane services company? A purchaser? A bank with a lien? Unl...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:54 pm
Forum: Travel, Polls & Preferences
Topic: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports
Replies: 34
Views: 3703

Re: Airlines that have served all 5 LA-basin airports

727LOVER wrote:
I'm particularly interested in ALL AT ONCE...but at separate times works also.
I'm thinking AA, AS...and now finally, WN

Any others?

Western?
Air Cal?
PSA?
Air West?
West Coast?
Jet America?

Golden West
Golden Gate
Apollo
Sun Air
Inland Empire
Swift Aire

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will there ever be a substantial relief airport for LAX in the LA Basin?
Replies: 83
Views: 9057

Re: Will there ever be a substantial relief airport for LAX in the LA Basin?

I agree with 727200.....never. But let me offer my idiotic idea of Camp Pendleton. There is open space. I wonder if runways parallel to I5 might work. At least you wouldn’t get complaints from residents. if you could just send the Marines to the desert there would be no one around. Never. Gonna. Ha...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 7:11 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What kind of stuff is on the NEF, MEL, and CDL?
Replies: 17
Views: 1306

Re: What kind of stuff is on the NEF, MEL, and CDL?

Two stories I once had an aircraft that had multiple cockpit panel lights MEL'ed. I didn't think anything of it - it's just a few cockpit lights - flew the plane all day. plane flew great all day. .. until night time and it got dark. The instrument panel is the standard six-pack not glass. Turns ou...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:58 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: What kind of stuff is on the NEF, MEL, and CDL?
Replies: 17
Views: 1306

Re: What kind of stuff is on the NEF, MEL, and CDL?

Here is the master Boeing 737 MEL document from the FAA. http://fsims.faa.gov/wdocs/mmel/b-737%20r54a.pdf The actual MEL items can vary carrier to carrier, depending on what they've been approved for and what their aircraft are equipped with. Many MELs also come with some kind of deviation from sta...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:51 am
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: In an emergency, can a Boeing pilot fly an Airbus and vice versa?
Replies: 86
Views: 6672

Re: In an emergency, can a Boeing pilot fly an Airbus and vice versa?

In having been both a Boeing 737 and an Airbus A319/ A320 Maintenance controller the Airbus might be a bit easier to screw up on the approach without autoland because of the lack of throttle movement of the auto-throttles. But. As long as the pilot in command keeps a close eye on the angle of attack...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will there ever be a substantial relief airport for LAX in the LA Basin?
Replies: 83
Views: 9057

Re: Will there ever be a substantial relief airport for LAX in the LA Basin?

strfyr51 wrote:
CHI2DFW wrote:
ONT should fit that. If not, Los Angeles Peotone has marketing potential!



Peotone?? The "proposed" airport south of Chicago?? Are you Kidding??



if you're going there? Then why not the old George AFB??

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 22, 2017 6:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Will there ever be a substantial relief airport for LAX in the LA Basin?
Replies: 83
Views: 9057

Re: Will there ever be a substantial relief airport for LAX in the LA Basin?

CHI2DFW wrote:
ONT should fit that. If not, Los Angeles Peotone has marketing potential!



Peotone?? The "proposed" airport south of Chicago?? Are you Kidding??

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by strfyr51
Tue Dec 19, 2017 7:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii
Replies: 259
Views: 33005

Re: Southwest Finally Announces Intentions to Serve Hawaii

Attention A.netters! We now have another year or so to start what, about 4 dozen threads speculating on the routes, the schedules, fares, philosophy, pros-and-cons, etc. Let's not burn ourselves out this far out from specific announcements, let alone the start of the service to the Islands. (And th...

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by strfyr51
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017
Replies: 1935
Views: 313226

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

also, you might see a very limited flight number for a Ferry/ Test flight, The assigned flight numbers for those flights can ONLY be assigend to a FEW flights and they're usually a Pain in the BUTT to assign. Once that flight number is assigned, there can BE no follow on flight number assigned to th...

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by strfyr51
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017
Replies: 1935
Views: 313226

Re: United Fleet Upgrade Status - 2017

Actually that flight will be flown by our Engineering (Test) Pilots. Who is "our?" The United Engineering Test Crews. Who did you think? We don't contract that out and Line ALPA Crews can't be assigned to fly them in a nromal event. I'll bet they really could but they can't be tasked to d...

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by strfyr51
Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:11 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA 747 3 engine ferry PHX-LHR
Replies: 67
Views: 22836

Re: BA 747 3 engine ferry PHX-LHR

This time without passers? :D Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk No aircraft can be granted for clearing takeoff in revenue service with an inoperative or missing engine. In case of twins , AOG only (under FAA regulations, taking off a twin engined aircraft with one engine is illegal). Trijets an...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 15, 2017 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United ending Xian
Replies: 108
Views: 19311

Re: United ending Xian

Why? Is XIY-SFO-LAX so obviously superior to, for instance, XIY-ICN-LAX that UA will get all of the non-SFO US business? First, XIY-SFO is far superior to XIY-ICN-SFO for a SFO bound passenger. Second, XIY-SFO-LAX is superior to XIY-ICN-LAX for a LAX bound passenger. If you travelled more you would...

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by strfyr51
Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta orders 100 P&W powered A321neo aircraft, plus 100 options
Replies: 377
Views: 82518

Re: CNN: Delta to order 100+ Airbus A321neo Aircraft

The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement. The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement. The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement. The A321NEO will never be a 757 replacement. :duck: :duck: :duck: Airbus didn't BUILD a B757 capable replacement. . We can't 2nd guess Delta's fleet planning.. It w...

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by strfyr51
Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:40 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies
Replies: 399
Views: 88894

Re: Delta to issue RFP for up to 150 Narrowbodies?

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0SO8wGEIR9ZWQgAZUxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEyY2VicHNmBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQjM5MTBfMQRzZWMDc2M-/RV=2/RE=1495241221/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.bizjournals.com%2fseattle%2fnews%2f2017%2f05%2f19%2fdelta-eyes-big-late-summer-order-analysts-dont.html/RK=1/RS=A_I3OYqe0MFwLheu...

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by strfyr51
Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: unknown Boeing 737-800 at San Bernadino, California
Replies: 14
Views: 2287

Re: unknown Boeing 737-800 at San Bernadino, California

whatever it is?? A B737-800 it aint! Look at the Nose landing gear it's too short to be a-800 at Best it was a -300.

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by strfyr51
Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boeing may consider restarting 767 pax model production
Replies: 839
Views: 160454

Re: Boeing may consider restarting 767 pax model production

Such an analyses works actually both ways, it tells us that for UA, to buy 767-300ER, stopgap or no stopgap, instead of A330 or 787 to make sense, the 767-300ER have to be dirt cheap. So the question from UA would be to Boeing, how low can you go. Plausible, but if I was Boeing under that theory th...

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