While "meltdown" might be hyperbolic, completely scrubbing 17 carriers for 2 full days is a bit more than "a few flights got delayed". God, you should see some of the brilliant takes on Flyertalk. These "entitled passengers" were apparently not prepared enough to deal ...
Jump to postACDC8 wrote:This can't be, according to all the YVR snow event social media keyboard warriors, SEA has no issue dealing with snow lol
Just to be annoying.... Do we have to use the term "metldown" for any time a bunch of flights get delayed. It's weather. That's all. A meltdown would actually be what's need to FIX the current problem. /s Haha, it’s coming this weekend. With an added dose of buckets of rain next week. “We...
Jump to post2 lavs for 136 seats. There are going to be some long lineups. This has not been an issue for KLM, Azul and Swiss (Helvetic ACMI), why would it be for Porter? Do Canadians go to the toilet more often? No. Less, if anything. Those lav ratios are in the same ball park as Y on AC’s 77Ws, which are use...
Jump to postHad family fly into YVR at the beginning of this episode. Can’t speak to the state of the after-security side, but the baggage area was a colossal mess. Bags all over the place, people packed in tight. Made worse by the tarmac delays and utter lack of cellphone reception in the tarmac area between t...
Jump to postThe Signature Suite, no. In fact some J passengers are not allowed access. But International Premium Economy passengers used to granted access to the Maple Leaf Lounge, is that no longer the case? To be honest, I wouldn't know from personal experience, as I never flew International Premium Economy ...
Jump to postDon’t think I’ve had so many people kinda sorta somewhat maybe possibly agree with me (tough crowd, this), so I should know better and duck out quietly :P. But I won’t; nature of the beast etc. Perhaps I should have framed “dealbreaker” in a different way - “memory of a goldfish” might be more apt, ...
Jump to postThe gov didn't let Air Transat and AC merger so I'm certain they wouldn't allow a Porter merger either. Let's hope not anyway! The ULCC's could see a merger though with the defense of adding a large scale ULCC to the Canada market. The TS-AC merger fell apart because of the EU, not the Canadian gov...
Jump to postI guess we were due for one of these anecdote types stories soon. First we had some posters kids refusing to fly F8. Now we have someone’s kids friends getting delayed and swearing off it. The point is that your statement was absolutely useless because you can't speak on behalf of any passenger on ...
Jump to postWhy is it so outrageous that people want to be on time to their destinations? That doesn't mean Flair is doomed to collapse imminently but reliability is certainly not a strong suit for Flair. When people say "Flair may need to work on their OTP" why does that bring so much backlash? A go...
Jump to postI guess we were due for one of these anecdote types stories soon. First we had some posters kids refusing to fly F8. Now we have someone’s kids friends getting delayed and swearing off it. Take this example. F8 flies to CUN from YYZ and YKF. The only ULCC option is for YYZ, and that’s WO. Google th...
Jump to postI guess we were due for one of these anecdote types stories soon. First we had some posters kids refusing to fly F8. Now we have someone’s kids friends getting delayed and swearing off it. Take this example. F8 flies to CUN from YYZ and YKF. The only ULCC option is for YYZ, and that’s WO. Google the...
Jump to postI wasn’t talking about ULCCs either. Just a simple question ….. if you think Flair’s runway excursion is a gauge of their “safety”, what must you think of Westjet with four in nine months? When Im comparing a relatively unknown airline from outside of Canada , from a consumer point of view , and I ...
Jump to postFor the record, I don't condone any publication that paints F8 as unsafe specifically because of the incident at YKF. I'm not aware of anyone that has done so, but I would like to see if it's happened. I agree entirely with Aresxerexade's assessment of the perception this type of incident creates f...
Jump to postOn the plus side, if Flair engenders this much attention, they must be doing something right. What is that old saying - any publicity is good publicity. I do think it is pretty clear now that Flair is the leader among the ULCCs - largest number of routes, largest fleet, most attention, and most wel...
Jump to postI do not work for WS, am not affiliated with them, and unless you have evidence of who works for who, maybe you and YEGFlyer should stop making these claims. If it was Swoop pax sleeping in Concourse A, I'd be on their case about it in the Swoop thread. But they don't operate here. The WestJet grou...
Jump to postCall me cynical, but their standard Y offering is 30" pitch - no different than their competitors. The only thing that is different is free Beer/Wine and snacks for all. I'm not really sure how that is the good old days. The other half - also a *G but with less interest in aviation than watchi...
Jump to postUnfortunately, we can’t say the same for the WS/WO-folk on this thread (not suggesting you’re one of them). I do not work for WS, am not affiliated with them, and unless you have evidence of who works for who, maybe you and YEGFlyer should stop making these claims. If it was Swoop pax sleeping in C...
Jump to postI think the reason we all like this is that it reminds us of how flying used to be. The good old days. Wishing them the best of luck with this expansion. Call me cynical, but their standard Y offering is 30" pitch - no different than their competitors. The only thing that is different is free ...
Jump to postSwoop just canceled 6x weekly YYZ-FLL planned to launch imminently, so I will patiently wait for everyone to go into the Swoop thread and advise how this disastrous decision will surely turn passengers off Swoop, represent another nail in the coffin, and be just the type of bad publicity that sinks...
Jump to postIt's a very late route pull and a terrible call by Swoop to scrub the flights that late. Swoop is not a good airline. If you want me to say this is worse than multiple daily cancellations by F8 from one small station because they have no crews to operate the flights, I won't say that. Because it is...
Jump to postDoes he want me to criticize Swoop for... not wasting money on a route that wasn't going to thrive? Unlike F8, this new Swoop route was presumably not paid for entirely by the government of Arizona, so when bookings were dogwater, they pulled it. Simple. I think you are referring to Swoop and Flori...
Jump to postSwoop just canceled 6x weekly YYZ-FLL planned to launch imminently, so I will patiently wait for everyone to go into the Swoop thread and advise how this disastrous decision will surely turn passengers off Swoop, represent another nail in the coffin, and be just the type of bad publicity that sinks...
Jump to postWhen I was a student , only time I ever travelled was when I booked a hotel for a reading break get away. All my money went to my tuition and books, theres no way i’d risk flying with Jetsgo and risk being stuck somewhere. Time was important to me , if that flight was late or delayed coming home it...
Jump to postNow we're going to say that 3+ hour delays and cancelling flights 24 hours ahead of time is okay because there's no connecting pax? All the F8 pax I see sleeping in Concourse A with today's 2 cancellations (out of 7 flights) don't matter because they have no connecting flight on the other end? Give...
Jump to postIt's interesting that the discussion went from "prove their OTP is bad" to "multiple cancellations, 0% OTP and 4 hour delays in a 10 flight operation are merely a nuisance and not a dealbreaker" Think you might be mistaking me for someone else. I wasn’t involved in the “prove th...
Jump to postNow we're going to say that 3+ hour delays and cancelling flights 24 hours ahead of time is okay because there's no connecting pax? All the F8 pax I see sleeping in Concourse A with today's 2 cancellations (out of 7 flights) don't matter because they have no connecting flight on the other end? Give...
Jump to postJust think of all those APPR penalties they must be enduring this holiday season. Ha - the APPRs are such a mess that F8 probably won’t have to pay out till 2025 (if they’re still around). The backlog is now at 30,000. The official processing time is 18 months. Think we can safely double that. http...
Jump to postYou seem to like Swoop a lot even though they have the same buisness model of selling 50 cents base fares on 4 hours sectors. I guess the fact that they are more on time than Flair mean they have more staff to service those flights and therefore making their costs even higher... (In my opinion) the...
Jump to postAirportia is a nice start, but it has to be correlated with detailed specific flight info from another reliable source which, in my case, is a subscription site. Airportia reports flights in GMT so to cover a “days”‘flights in Canada, one takes looks at flights from 06:00 GMT to 05:59 GMT the follo...
Jump to postJust think of all those APPR penalties they must be enduring this holiday season. Ha - the APPRs are such a mess that F8 probably won’t have to pay out till 2025 (if they’re still around). The backlog is now at 30,000. The official processing time is 18 months. Think we can safely double that. http...
Jump to postAccording to Airportia.com, Flair operated 86 flights on Monday Dec 12. Here’s a list of the cancelled flights F8 813 - YKF-YYC F8 150 - YXX-YYZ F8 814 - YYC-YKF F8 151 - YYZ-YXX F8 881 - YKF-YUL F8 930 - YUL-YYC F8 1603 - YXX-YEG F8 1604 - YEG-YXX That’s a completion factor of 77/86 or 89.5%. Of t...
Jump to postAccording to Airportia.com, Flair operated 86 flights on Monday Dec 12. Here’s a list of the cancelled flights F8 813 - YKF-YYC F8 150 - YXX-YYZ F8 814 - YYC-YKF F8 151 - YYZ-YXX F8 881 - YKF-YUL F8 930 - YUL-YYC F8 1603 - YXX-YEG F8 1604 - YEG-YXX That’s a completion factor of 77/86 or 89.5%. Of t...
Jump to postWhen were Ukrainian people enjoying controlling other countries, for that equivalent to make sense? You can disregard it by claiming it is a "believe system" but that's just how thing is from the perspective from China. Even in official propaganda you will never see them claiming how bad ...
Jump to postIt's called "Century of Humiliation" because China lost its glory and is no longer able to exert colonial influence over its surrounding, losing its hitorical role of dominance. Opium war ceded Hong Kong, a place where China emptied multiple times over decades together with vast stretch o...
Jump to postCan you please spell these "two very different attitudes"? (I'm seeing so many angles on this, that I envy your clarity of seeing just two). Read the rest of the thread. It's hopeless, I'd need to dedicate several workdays for that. I tried, and I'm not seeing two, I'm seeing more. Not to...
Jump to postYou see? Suddenly this whole "white people, from countries with indoor plumbing, are all guilty of colonial injustices, they all owe reparations to the rest of the world" narrative doesn't seem too reasonable anymore, does it? No, I don’t. I see two very different attitudes to claims for ...
Jump to postAll the generalization you used, projecting comments on countries as if they are on all the people living in countries, yet you try to be the one calling out "lazy colonial tropes about entire countries" It is as if when one describe anything less than positive about a country like France...
Jump to postYou see? Suddenly this whole "white people, from countries with indoor plumbing, are all guilty of colonial injustices, they all owe reparations to the rest of the world" narrative doesn't seem too reasonable anymore, does it? No, I don’t. I see two very different attitudes to claims for ...
Jump to postSorry that's too absurd to even make sense Yes, I imagine it would be, if one’s entire worldview is based on lazy colonial tropes about entire countries. Perhaps if India was full of Koreans, you might have a different view. But then again, 6 million Koreans trace their lineage back to an Indian qu...
Jump to postJohn Rolfe married Pocahontas, they had issue. Americans put interests of their new country above their old country, it was no longer a colony. Was native population happier in the bargain? Latvians were deported by Soviets to Siberia, in some number. Some were shot. Large influx of Russian settler...
Jump to postThe Mughals became Indian. The colonizers never integrated on any level - it was segregation all the way. So you believe that segretationary type of colonialism is bad, and integrationary kind of colonialism is good? The first demands justice, retribution, reparations. The other doesn't. Correct? G...
Jump to postIf Finland was colonised then so was Norway, it only became independent in 1905. Finland was ruled by Sweden then Russia from the 1300’s until 1918, it’s a bit difficult to call that colonisation it was just ruled from affair, it was integrated with Sweden for 400 plus years. With a few exceptions ...
Jump to postHow should they fit then? Ask them. Right in the comment section of the article you linked it's already pointed out that the sign is from a 2015 TV drama that didn't existed in India in the past. Shrug. I wonder where they got the idea from. Anyway, I don’t know why we’re arguing about since these ...
Jump to postHow should they fit then? Ask them. Right in the comment section of the article you linked it's already pointed out that the sign is from a 2015 TV drama that didn't existed in India in the past. Shrug. I wonder where they got the idea from. Anyway, I don’t know why we’re arguing about since these ...
Jump to postSo you think Finland is a "fellow colonizing developed countries"? I don’t think anything. It’s for them to figure out how they fit in the developed world, and what their share, if any, should be. They can take that up with the Belgians, Germans, French, Brits, Spaniards and so on. Last I...
Jump to postWhat do you mean by the group FInland have "chosen"? They choose to be a developed country hence they need to pay the price for it? Not to mention there are tons of countries who are developed but not colonizer, and also tons of developing countries who weren't being colonized before Exac...
Jump to postFinland is a developed countries. Given that the climate reparation fund is to have developed countries funding developing countries, Finland will be asked to take part in funding it. There, you found the one that floats your boat. Good for you. Now Finland can negotiate its fair share with the gro...
Jump to postIrrespective if one believes the floods were caused by climate change or not does not take away from the fact that disaster management is more about preparedness than response, in this case Pakistan has not heeded past lessons learned. These events are not just happening within the day but over sev...
Jump to postInteresting. So colonialism is apparently a major part of this screaming match. And then it's irrelevant if countries were not participating in colonialism, or were on the receiving end of it (Finland). Interesting. Is it? What, exactly, has Finland been asked for? To the extent that countries are ...
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