Re: Windshear on A343 take off scare at Zurich

Look closely at the elevators....lots of large elevator down inputs. A/C looks to be responding normally to abnormal flight control inputs. IOW no issues with the WX or the airplane itself They came close to a tail strike. Yeah, then looked good to almost level out, then climb. Felt like that was g...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

thanks for that great update psu - i find it interesting that with 50 plus 321neo and 25 plus 339 that there is not a single route. and its not all distance, the 339 operates ams-bos sometimes and the 321 neo operates slc-las sometimes. I think its a reflection of 2 things, one being that the 359 do...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

A quick Google search on Friday June 7th is showing some DL equipment changes. First, DTW-MSP will not only see 1 but 2 757’s and an A350. Perhaps these are efforts to restore each others purpose in DLs network DTW-MSP-PNW and MSP-DTW-NE. SEA is almost entirely A321’s. The 757 will make appearances...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

in 2019 was dtw-sea 6 dialy? I cant remember seeing that many it seems like a really descent build up for dtw this summer.

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

A few interesting observations: -- Come mid-spring, DL is replacing the 321 with 739 on many flight out West. Yes, trivial, but not good news for those of us who prefer the 321. -- AA has permanently dropped the second DTW/MIA frequency. -- Late spring, UA swapped a sixth flight to EWR with a third...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

A look on the Delta flight app today shows DTW-PVG Daily starting in June
Also - I believe DTW-FCO has been moved up to late may instead of early june

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

Lets keep the positive dtw train going. A look on the Delta flight app today shows DTW-PVG Daily starting in June
Also - I believe DTW-FCO has been moved up to late may instead of early june

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

Midwestindy wrote:

Looks like some capacity is returning to DTW this summer:

DTW-FWA is returning

DTW-CLE/CMH/GRR/IND/MKE/SFO moving from 4x > 5x
DTW-GSP/MEM/PWM moving from 2x >3x (Pre-Covid frequency)

etc

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

Someone correct me if this turns out to be wrong but I think dtw-pvg is going daily in June - good news if true

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

It’s amazing what happens when you slash all the connecting routes into a hub

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

I was wondering if anyone who has access to the oag stuff could comment on dtw-cdg this summer I know there are 3 daily flights 2 on delta and one on Air France What aircraft are delta and Air France operating in July for the Olympics? Thanks in advance DL A332 DL A333 AF A359 Thanks was hoping to ...

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

I was wondering if anyone who has access to the oag stuff could comment on dtw-cdg this summer
I know there are 3 daily flights 2 on delta and one on Air France
What aircraft are delta and Air France operating in July for the Olympics? Thanks in advance

Re: Rumour: Delta to cut London-Los Angeles

Its surprising that route cant work. They just cut one of the DTW as well. Is this a sign the partnership with VA is not working?

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

Why is schedule change data so secretive now in today’s world? I used to love to just be able to keep track of stuff on my own with the downloadable electronic timetable. Now it’s hard to do that and the only people who seem to have access to easy route and fleet changes are people who pay for serv...

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

Saw today from simple flying that delta proposed that their slots for Havana and China be dormant for summer 24 For China it mentioned not using 32 of the 42 slots it has for the upcoming summer. Is this a further reduction or is what they fly from dtw and sea right now those 10 flights and everythi...

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

Supposedly ceo on msnbc yesterday says he expects max 10 delays to go well beyond 2025 wonder if some will be substituted for max 9 or if they will just throw the towel in on the order 100 planes though I don’t know if if they had luck on their side or if it was a strategic decision to not get the m...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

Rare dtw visitor today especially in these times - antonov landed 21L around 4pm - can’t find a record of it on flight aware

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

Why is schedule change data so secretive now in today’s world? I used to love to just be able to keep track of stuff on my own with the downloadable electronic timetable. Now it’s hard to do that and the only people who seem to have access to easy route and fleet changes are people who pay for servi...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

I was out at a farmers market in Clermont, FL and heard a younger couple (around my age) talking about how nice Detroit looked in the NFL playoff coverage. They talked about booking a stay in May at Greektown, walking the riverfront, driving into Canada and attending a Detroit Tigers baseball game....

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

I think the a220 would be the best way for delta to test those non Beach markets if they want too, but they just dont need to right now, thats the problem with DTW - theres just not enough competition for delta to justify growth when they could use the planes somewhere else.

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

This may have been discussed before and if so I apologize but are there plans to retrofit the classic 333 and 332? Compared to the new planes coming in they are so outdated and with 8-10 years left on these things its gotta be done at some point right?

Re: Boeing 737MAX 10 Development / Testing / Production - 2024

Seriously Boeing it’s not to late to put in eicas system in either for gods sake

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

This annual report should have the first look at planned 350-1000 deliveries

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

airanatolia wrote:

There seems to be some talk of Delta restarting flights to Istanbul, and this time not necessarily JFK. Any thoughts on this?

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8862/history/20240127/1910Z/KDTW/KSJC I assume this is the Lions team charter that will operate DTW-SJC tomorrow. If so, I'm surprised they didn't travel to San Jose days ago in order to get adjusted to the stadium and outdoor play again. Does it strike an...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

United is adding Chicago to Athens this summer The optimistic side of me says that plane that was going to do the second dtw-lhr is available But the pessimistic side of me says they will add a second Atlanta instead What? What does UA adding ORD-ATH have anything to do with LHR and DL? I’m confuse...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

United is adding Chicago to Athens this summer
The optimistic side of me says that plane that was going to do the second dtw-lhr is available
But the pessimistic side of me says they will add a second Atlanta instead

Re: DL A339's - Issues with reliability?

Keep in mind the A339 has a lower crosswind limit for landing than the classics do, that could have contributed to ams operations - winds were gusting to 50 i believe

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

The only place I can see them having extra airframes for summer 2024 is the aircraft that do tlv

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

Well JetBlue isn't exactly printing money with all that innovation going on. No doubt this is true. But how much money is delta leaving on the table? Particularly on west europe from USA routes? The only reason people book with Delta is because of a skymiles loyalty. But I've seen many work associa...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

They can take our routes away but they can’t stop our Detroit lions! Next stop SFO

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

When it comes to the max 10 I just pray for Boeing sake they got this new landing gear system correct. It’s just another addition to an old design

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

A follow up on spirit not doing well financially at all. If spirit has to drastically downsize or even god forbid they close down or sell their assets, How does this affect deltas operation at dtw - does another lcc come in to compete? Does swa, American or United start point to point routes out of ...

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

What does everyone think will happen in dtw now that jet blue and spirit will not be merging ? Does spirit attempt to grow back?

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2024

Does anyone think there is Any chance that pkx comes back in 2024 ?

Re: DL orders 20 A350-1000

So in 2026 - the 339 start flying 767 routes
The 359 primarily does pacific and then the 350-1000 does what? Ultra long haul for both and high density hub to int hub?

Re: DL orders 20 A350-1000

This is actually exactly how I thought this was going to go which means that indeed in the future there will be another order to replace the last remaining 767 and start to replace the classic 330 plus 767-400

Re: Rumor: Reuters - DL to order A350-1000

I originally thought this order was going to be pure growth and was just going to Be 350-1000 with a slight chance of 11 more 339 to bring that fleet to 50 I then thought in a couple of years delta would order the 787 as the true 767 replacement Now I’m not too sure but I’m still prepared for an ord...

Re: Rumor: Reuters - DL to order A350-1000

777Mech wrote:

flymco753 wrote:

Maybe the -1000 variant will help with the consistent payload optimize issues from DTW-Asia. Shift the -900s to CDG and AMS.

Fat chance they'll fly out of DTW. JNB/CPT/SYD will be the first ones to see it.

DTW-Asia will be fixed by the new high-J config.

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

im not good at economics -ask my college professor but would an a338 be good on the following routes as 757/767/332 replacements?
DTW.msp/jfk = kef
atl-anc
dtw-ngo (if it came back)
hnl to every base
lax-ppt
Thanks

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

I feel like the upgauging talk can become a slippery slope of generalization at times. Upgauging the 763 to 339, okay. But then, oh the 359 is even more efficient, so it goes from 763s to 359s or even a 35K all of a sudden. Another way to look at it is that DL is consolidating the smaller and short...

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

isnt the 350-1000 also good for shorter high density markets like jfk-lhr or slot restricted markets like ams-atl,dtw,ect???

Re: Rumor: Reuters - DL to order A350-1000

Interested to see if this includes more 339 as well

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2024

These are the cities I would love delta to relaunch or launch service too one year , might as well be 2024
Bcn
Ath
Stt
Pkx
Gru
Gcm
Lir
Bom
Pipe dream but wouldn’t it be cool?

Re: Delta Air Lines Fleet - 2024

Hearing that an announcement may be closer than we think for a widebody order - very early 2024

Re: Challenging landing for AA 777 at LHR

This was not a non event - this was very close to tragedy. It wasn’t just a bad landing, That bounce off the nose gear can often end very poorly the second time down but they recovered. Im not going to say anything about any actions of the crew cause I wasn’t there. They could be hero’s for all we k...

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

TropicalSky wrote:

I see a lot of switching with the A339 being removed for A333/2….where are all those Neo’s being redeployed?

Re: Delta Air Lines Network - 2023

No idea what but dal 135 ams-dtw just diverted to yyr

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2023

Aflimacon wrote:

PSU.DTW.SCE wrote:

My bad I was thinking of my alma mater which uses United. I do know the teams flying UA have been going into YIP.

Off-topic but is your alma mater Eastern Michigan?

Re: Detroit Aviation - 2023

flymco753 wrote:

I wonder when airlines will begin to add capacity to LAX for the Rose Bowl.