Do you really think that both the airport and CI are not aware of the numbers, whatever they may be? Do you really think that there arent people at CI analyzing ways to make the flight as profitable/ sustainable as possible? Do you really think that airport execs/ officials are not talking with CI a...Jump to post
Maybe I missed it, but press release doesnt seem to mention a start date for these new routes....
Midwestindy wrote:Jump to posthttps://news.flyfrontier.com/frontier-adds-nine-new-routes-from-san-antonio/
Let's see how this goes...
If all these corporate markets were that big and great, Delta would keep the flight. That they haven't tells you that either these markets are not that big or that whatever business there is is captured mostly by one world and partners and maybe by Star with the Lufthansa service to Frankfurt. Eithe...Jump to post
Delta has decided it's not worth it. they have the numbers and they've been at it for years. I don't think it's more than that. Basically, this means that low season transatlantic fares do not contribute to the comparative profitability of this flight. The aircraft would likely be more useful flying...Jump to post
Delta has tried serving this route for YEARS. They've tried serving it every which way possible. I think their decision to leave it sends a pretty clear message about how strategically important/ unimportant the market is to them specifically and more broadly to their JV partners. Translation: it's ...Jump to post
I've been to Prague 5 times in the past 3 years and can definitely say with a high degree of certainty that you're off the mark. The Prague food scene is varied and diverse. Yes, near the Charles Bridge and right on either side of it it it's quite touristy with a lot of bland restaurants. But litera...Jump to post
In theory, yes. For it to work, it needs to work on the strength of the Miami - Japan and beyond market. TBD about whether it will. So far, nobody has stepped up to the plate. A Miami-Tokyo flight is to serve the large local market between Miami - and Florida - and Asia. That's it. Sure, some people...Jump to post
I didnt say nothing else matters, I'm just pointing out a question. Also, Engineers are known for their precision, this represents a lack of precision. Finally, It is in AA's interest to get the most amount of revenue possible for the MIA - GRU/EZE/GIG segments. Those flights are not in any revenue ...Jump to post
I didnt say nothing else matters, I'm just pointing out a question. Your argument falls apart a bit. the O/D between MIA and Sao Paulo is much larger than between DFW And MIA. Great, then nothing else matters so how is my argument falling apart? My assumption was that since there are multiple flight...Jump to post
Your argument falls apart a bit. the O/D between MIA and Sao Paulo is much larger than between DFW And MIA. AA can make more money selling tickets to passengers just goign between Miami and Sao Paulo rather than accepting a pro rate of a NRT - MIA - GRU ticket. AA itself does very well on MIA- GRU/G...Jump to post
United, American, BA, and Norwegian all offer nonstop flights. Get over the sensationalism and uninformed/ ignorant commentary about United, it is really old and not very original. Regardless, there are 4 other carriers that offer multiple nonstop flights in the Chicago - London market. At the end o...Jump to post
This is a highly focused internet forum, where people believe mostly emotion rather than cold, hard facts. Delta is not going to all of a sudden add a bunch of connectivity on DTW - Chicago just to accommodate people who may have flown on Virgin nonstop previously now flying over Detroit. For those ...Jump to post
AA's DFW hub, which has 3 flights a day to Tokyo, already has great connectivity to the most in-demand markets from Japan and Asia - namely, Lima, Mexico City, Santiago, Buenos Aires, and Sao Paulo. European carriers, and Emirates and Qatar Airways, also provide excellent connectivity to Brazil and ...Jump to post
VS/DL customers will mostly just shift to one of the numerous nonstop flight options on the 4 other airlines that fly between London and Chicago. Most people will value nonstop convenience over any explicit loyalty. Nobody is "XX flyer only" for life, especially when better options exist e...Jump to post
Having a hotel in one city with a brand name does not mean flyers will flock to a flight operated by an airline that happens to share the same name. Did I really need to spell that out for you? And why, in the sentence below, is there a comma? It doesnt make sense and is not needed, and destroys the...Jump to post
what do you mean by this? United has a lock on traffic to Germany, which is a premium nonstop market for business travelers. UA really needs to find a business cohort willing to pay a non-stop premium (vs. CDG/AMS (Amsterdam - Schiphol)/LHR - (London - Heathrow) connections). Tourism isn't going to ...Jump to post
This is a little off. BTS produces T100 data. So BTS and T100 are basically the same thing. MIDT is booking data. Although it's often very off as it only includes tickets booked through GDS. If you're in a country/ market where there are substantial bookings through other channels, or airlines' own ...Jump to post
BTS information is solid information. It is illegal for an airline to falsify any submission, so if they were to do so it would cause big problems for them. Where you see strange things or things dont make sense is when there are diversions. sometimes a flight may be diverted for weather or what not...Jump to post
Delta has been flying bos cdg on its own metal fit years. The only chance of that happening is if DP goes away which is not happening any time soon. BOS is finished no matter what. I sure hope so. AA is squatting on BOS assets that others could make MUCH better use of. Let it be soon. I don't see Am...Jump to post
Delta has been flying to Stuttgart from Atlanta for nearly 30 years. They started this route way before purchasing Pan Am's Europe routes. This route was always about serving a demand from Stuttgart to the US, both on the corporate side as well as the leisure side (tons of Florida and california tra...Jump to post
They can and do make money, based on extensive experience I've had in the industry. That said, fares have to be high to pay for it.
flyguy84 wrote:Jump to postWhat a ridiculous thing to ask. Regional jets do not make money. They simply are a way to get people to a hub. The money is made on the mainline jet.
Nagoya has always been a tag on from Beijing. It was never served nonstop. This is not new. quote="ahj2000"] There are threads for those other destinations being cut, and also about the Future of EY. You mean the "2018 Etihad route cancellation thread"? :bomb: Seriously, I wonder...Jump to post
Ey was in yyz before ek was. I think. They originally flew it with a stop in Brussels. Simply put, YYZ has the biggest population that would use ey (mainly people goingbto / from india). quote="LH658"]I wonder why EY didn't go for YVR? EK has YYZ, QR has YUL, and EY should have chosen YVR....Jump to post
LIS is year round from Newark. It is seasonal from Washington - Dulles, on UA vs UA EWR: AMS, BCN, BRU, TXL, DUB, EDI, FRA, GVA, LIS, LHR, MAD, MAN, MXP, MUC, CDG, ZRH Seasonal: KEF, SNN, ARN, VCE From EWR, UA also flies FCO year-round. I don't believe LIS is year-round. I think LIS may be seasonal....Jump to post
What you suggest - UA "turning over flying at LAX" is simply illegal. Airlines are not allowed to coordinate scheduling and service decisions domestically without antitrust immunity, something that has never been done before in the domestic market. And, just giving it to JetBlue doesnt mea...Jump to post
Yeah no. that's not the way it works.. United only flew to JFK from 3 cities. Most of which already had service by the vast majority of the Star carriers that JFK did. United preferred selling seats from JFK to LAX/SFO to passengers just traveling between JFK and LAX/SFO as those in general are high...Jump to post
SN is part of the JV United is in with Lufthansa. United is very happy to take the traffic SN provides at Brussels. The manner Star alliance has evolved is into a private club within a club. As result, United maintains minimum relations with the bulk of Star members instead focusing on its A++ JV wi...Jump to post
[ TAP Portugal has been very vocal that it gets a lot of feed from jet blue at jfk and Boston. It gets some but not much free from UA at Newark as it mainly relies on local traffic at Newark. Singapore airlines and united have historically had a terse relationship and traditionally haven’t offered c...Jump to post
No. It was iad-dxb-doh, and iad-Kwi-bah
United1 wrote:Jump to postLOWS wrote:Wasn't there previously IAD-DOH on UA? Or was that a tag to/from KWI?
It was a tag on from KWI...
You specifically said that AA only had transpacific flights from ORD and DFW. "That's it" was the exact phrase you used. your points below really make no sense and belie a complete lack of understanding of the industry. What on earth are you talking about? AA has invested mightily in its n...Jump to post
What on earth are you talking about? AA has invested mightily in its network in the last few years. You say below that AA only has transpacific flights from ORD and DFW, "that's it", as you say. UMMMMMMM.... have you heard of LAX? In the past few years, AA has invested heavily in its trans...Jump to post
Why are you "fearing" the UAE? I lived there and it's totally fine. It's defnitely not a third world place. Lots to see in the States, but richer and older cultures that have helped influence our development come from elsewhere. I like seeing where things originate. but Ymmv I understand t...Jump to post
How much does having UA at JFK matter for most of the carriers below that you've listed? When UA left JFK, it only flew to SFO, LAX and IAD. Those cities are either served by all the carriers you mentioned below, or United itself can serve those destinations anyway via their own metal. Offering low ...Jump to post
I have worked in the corporate contracting world for these carriers before and can tell you something - no carrier, for companies that big, completely owns a contract. I've personally negotiated contracts for both those companies, and can tell you that Kirby's language is a bit hyperbolic - United n...Jump to post
Nobody here has actually said anything about United losing corporate contracts for dropping JFK, nor has United ever said anything about losing corporate contracts due to dropping JFK. That's ALL hearsay here and in the blogosphere, but never been verified or corroborated anywhere. Of course United ...Jump to post
Maybe the "premium" traffic is at JFK, but when you pull up DOT stats you can see that United has a higher yield (read higher fares) at EWR than any of the airlines at JFK. There might be prestige at JFK, but United is getting better fares at EWR. That's important. United does NOT care abo...Jump to post
SLC gets all these flights from all these carriers because it's a major inbound ski market in the winter. That's what all those flights from B6, AA, etc are for - to cater to skiers coming to SLC. CLT simply has no similar draw for that many tourists. Charlotte is the 23rd largest metropolitan area ...Jump to post
Seasonal since 2012 it 2013
UA IAD-YVR JUN 0.3>0.1 JUL 0.3>0.1 AUG 0.2>0.1
With fewer seats fares should go up, not down. Something is fishy here. Something else, not just the airplane type, would explain if overall average fares agre actually decreasing. Something is off. I think they were waiting for the A350 because it cut capacity on their East Coast Asia ops and now t...Jump to post
what do you mean by a "star alliance focused connecting hub?" That's what United does at Denver, and has connections to multiple star carriers. The airlines themselves have to make the decision to serve a market. United serves Denver with high volumes and continues to add new flights, up t...Jump to post
it's a good thing you're not a network planner or somebody in charge of route decisions for a major airline - with this type of analysis that airline would be out of business quickly. UA seems to be upping their DEN flights, especially with regionals and OO. DL seems to be upping gauge and frequency...Jump to post