I live in DC. I followed this this morning as I had several friends at DCA and trying to arrive DCA on multiple airlines (DL, UA, AA) and they were all massively delayed. I checked the FAA web site several times and there were, at all times, either full on ground stops at DCA or delay programs limit...Jump to post
Clearly you didn't read Enilria's disclaimer. He said that B6 hadn't loaded all their June flights yet, so the numbers for June are not accurate. The way his template works is that it loads all the flights for the month and divides by the days of the month. They haven't loaded all the flights, but a...Jump to post
??? they're still flying there and still flying their flights. they kind of need that equipment until the flight ends. Not positive it was LH, but saw two semis each hauling a cargo loader truck North on 101 on the peninsula the other night. Thought it might be LH moving the equipment back to SFO. C...Jump to post
actually,I've worked with Lufthansa's network planning group in Germany and their sales and marketing teams in California. Their network planning group extensively modeled and remodeled and tried to make this flight work. The simple thing is that it didn't. the sales and marketing team in the SF / B...Jump to post
Just a note - Newark airport was referred to as "New York/ Newark" LONG before United / Continental had a hub there. Every single airline in the 1980s and probably before always grouped the two together. It wasnt a United thing. The Bay Area is over served internationally. This doesn’t sur...Jump to post
nope - here it is, posted on their web site: https://primeraair.com/about-us/corporate-news/ceases-operations/ Several things to me do not add up: - why would the Director of Flight Ops (someone ranked quite high in such a small company) would leak such dramatic information, where he admitted to not...Jump to post
now posted on their web site: https://primeraair.com/about-us/corpora ... perations/Jump to post
To pluralize the word “lot”, simply add an s. Adding ‘s makes the word lot possessive, which is not what you’re doing and would not make sense. Again, just add an s- it should say lots. quote="colindm"] I was just in Austin this week for work, and was thinking the city might be able to sup...Jump to post
Have you ever been there? Do you know anything about the geography there? It's literally a 40 minute drive from one city to the other. There was only an A380 to DOH because there was literally no way to drive to Doha from the UAE and it was much farther. AUH will likely maintain key routes for busin...Jump to post
United dropped JFK-NRT in 2006, years before it merged with CO. When it dropped JFK-NRT, it began IAD-NRT, which it still flies today. First off, I'm not sure if UA ever served JFK-NRT. They do however, serve EWR-NRT. Delta cut it's JFK-NRT route likely so that they can shift their focus to ATL. Uni...Jump to post
Delta flew it pre 9/11 for a brief moment then dropped it right around 9/11. Northwest dropped JFK-NRT around 2005 and with the merger with Delta they re-started it. As Delta has now closed the majority of its NRT hub it then dropped JFK-NRT. I am fairly certain that pre-9/11, DL did fly JFK-NRT wit...Jump to post
*UX JFK-MAD JAN 0.7>0.3[0.3] FEB 0.6>0 MAR 0.6>0[0.4]
Is Air Europa completely dropping JFK?
People from the bay Area go to Hawaii for vacation. For them it's a quick (relatively) flight. United and the other airlines in the Bay Area only have so many airplanes to use, and have decided to follow the local demand and put them in Hawaii. For those who want to go elsewhere, United, AA, and oth...Jump to post
United "funnels" connecting passengers from South America to Asia via IAH. Their flights from GRU, EZE, GIG, and SCL to IAH connect dozens of passengers daily, from each flight, onto the airline's IAH - NRT flight. People from South America who can afford to travel to Asia can generally ge...Jump to post
why would United be happy with that? They dont share revenue from them, and dont get any money from those carries operating those routes? That's a weird thing to say.
psa1011 wrote:Jump to postI think UA is probably happy with CM doing SFO-PTY 3x daily, and AV doing SFO-SAL 2x.
The DL KE JV does not include mainland china. China does not permit 3rd party codesharing. That said, you could still fly, say, DTW-ICN on DL and then switch to KE for an ICN- China segment. Delta just wouldnt put their code on the ICN - China segment, and only the overwater portion would be shared ...Jump to post
Hawaii is so so so out of the way going to Asia. These flights arent even aligned with their nonstop flights. I guess if you wanted to stay for a day or two in Hawaii on your way to /from Asia this could work. No flatbed = no go. As per the note, HA has first class flatbed seats. The flight is longe...Jump to post
I've actually worked in the network planning and schedule planning division at several international and domestic airlines. The marketing department does not do any of that.
727200 wrote:Jump to postDon't know how much airline experience you have besides sitting in a seat, but marketing has direct influence over sked's.
Marketing does not make decisions regarding destination an airline serves. Try network planning. I am shocked that AF doesn't fly this route and hasn't since 9/11; a long time ago. I never checked for it just assuming they had been flying all along. This was a no-brainer, someone in marketing at AF ...Jump to post
They could, but wouldnt most people just fly nonstop from CDG to SLC and LAX on the nonstop sky team flights that operate in those markets?
dfwjim1 wrote:Jump to postWill Skyteam customers be able to connect from this flight to Delta flights going from DFW to SLC/LAX?
They've flown PVCHPN many years in the past - they just took a year off this year due to pilot availability issues. PVC-BOS is a quick 15-20 minute flight across Cape Cod bay. PVC-HPN is more like an hour + flight. Definitely further than BOS. I mean HPN-BOS is about the same as HPN-PVC. HPN-BOS in ...Jump to post
oh cool!! didn't know that. thanks for letting me know!! In Stuttgart, Delta carriers Mercedes-Benz traffic over Atlanta to Alabama, where Mercedes - Benz has a large factory. Delta has the best connections of any carrier, and J is filled with paid traffic. Actually there are two Assembly plants in ...Jump to post
Most of those destinations are markets already served by Lufthansa, Austrian, and Swiss. Long haul routes live and die by the corporate and local traffic on the trunk route (the US - first landing point). In the summer, Athens does well because there are a LOT of Americans who go there who are willi...Jump to post
What do you mean? United flies a nonstop seasonal service to Athens. Just as Delta does, and American will do next summer. It's American that's joining the party. What's surprising to me is that United isn't making the most of Aegean being a Star Alliance member. They have a growing domestic, region...Jump to post
It wasn’t until 2003-2005 that the UA/LH relationship got very strong and Lufthansa really dominated German travel. The market was very fragmented until the mid 2000s so there was room for more players. Delta makes Frankfurt, work because there is a large number of Atlanta - area businesses that hav...Jump to post
Delta makes Frankfurt, work because there is a large number of Atlanta - area businesses that have commercial ties in Germany.they can fill up the front with paid j traffic which basically pays for the flight, then the tourists in the back are just the icing. In Stuttgart, Delta carriers Mercedes-Be...Jump to post
LH flies to IAD and EWR, and did so even before LH and UA/CO were friends, because there is an immense amount of travel generated to cities on the LH network from those markets. In both of those markets, LH depends primarily on the local market and NOT on connections from UA, to make those markets w...Jump to post
Houston might not be one of America's 'top 5 most prominent American cities" (whatever that means, even though it IS the 4th or 5th largest American city, depending on how you measure it), but it DOES generate a TON of international traffic. More importantly, it generates a TON of paid first an...Jump to post
Lufthansa and its partners dominate travel from the German point of sale (ie, German passengers traveling abroad). That includes corporate travelers, the travelers more apt to spend money on business and first class tickets. And in the case of Germany markets, there are more Germans coming towards t...Jump to post
no, it has nothing to do with "blue bloods". It has everything to do with the classification of the airplane type / capacity (I dont know the technical details). Unscreened flying is common in many areas, especially Alaska, where the travel is point to point, there are fewer than XX seats ...Jump to post
Delta started DTW - ICN in 2010. That's less than 10 years. I see DL asking for and being rewarded DTW & JFK. NW ran double daily DTW-TYO flights for many years, and in this scenario I see DTW-HND daily and DTW-NRT 5-6 weekly. JFK-HND Daily on the A350. Interesting mention for VS to return and u...Jump to post
PSA - to pluralize anything, just add an -s or -es. no apostrophe. The plural of Indian is Indians. Indian's is possessive. Similarly, the plural of Platinum is Platinums. For whatever reason you got the plural of Gold right - Golds. Not Gold's. Just FYI. New Jersey has a huge Inidan American popula...Jump to post
It was discussed in the AA threads on Tuesday/ Wednesday. Clt- muc is replacing phl-muc. Discussed at length. Bologna, Dubrovnik etc are seasonal routes where Americans will pay to fly for vacation in the summer. High fares too. FRA and muc are mostly point of sale Germany markets. AA can’t get the ...Jump to post
What are you talking about? the AA flight at DFW will be fed by Texas, Mexico, and all of the west. I guarantee you it'll be full of people going to and from California who are spilling off the nonstop flights, just as every other DFW - Europe flight on AA is currently. Little in DFW? Are you crazy?...Jump to post
Frankfurt is LH's largest hub with multiple banks throughout the day, many with unique destinations separate and apart from the other banks. It is LH's most profitable hub. Adding a UA - operated flight that feeds into another bank at FRA is probably the least risky yet most profitable decision that...Jump to post
As somebody who in the past has worked in Sales and negotiated with the company and customers that actually use this flight for the airline in question that operates this service, I can tell you that they prefer it this way. And they're in Munich, not Frankfurt. CLT - MUC is mainly there for BMW exe...Jump to post
Ah i see. Cool. Although I do like how they're doing markets such as Bologna and Dubrovnik. Smart risk taking. No, American has a strategy, which is similar to Delta's. Both of them have the strategy to concentrate the majority of their service in their partner hubs in Europe, then selectively add s...Jump to post
CLT - MUC is mainly there for BMW execs in Germany going to and from BMW's South Carolina plant. It's German point of sale customers in business class. Then in Coach on that route it's mainly people from Charlotte using the Munich hub to go to India and Europe. BMW will NOT put its passengers on AA,...Jump to post
No. IAG is a holding company. It does NOT set the corporate direction for any of its carriers. Each sets its own strategy. Aer Lingus has been pretty vocal in saying they don’t plan on joining oneworld. They try to join the AA/BA transatlantic joint venture, but that is not the same thing as joining...Jump to post
No, American has a strategy, which is similar to Delta's. Both of them have the strategy to concentrate the majority of their service in their partner hubs in Europe, then selectively add seasonal opportunities where Americans will pay high fares during the summer. AA's only real partner opportuniti...Jump to post
Plus there's Wow. Plus there's Condor. That's a LOT of service for Pittsburgh. A decent sized market for sure, but at a certain point not enough for that many seats to Europe on a daily basis. Especially when the main point of sale is Pittsburgh and not Europe. There's only so much profitable stimul...Jump to post
Mostly filled with diplomatic traffic, and attorneys going to / from Brussels on high fares. Also people connecting to Brussels Airlines's Africa network. Very different crowd than what one might find on Primera.
B752OS wrote:Jump to postIs UA year round, daily on IAD-BRU?
Aer Lingus has been pretty vocal in saying they don’t plan on joining oneworld. They try to join the AA/BA transatlantic joint venture, but that is not the same thing as joining oneworld. Why wouldn’t AA fly ord-dub in the summer? It makes money. If it didn’t, they would have cancelled it, as they s...Jump to post
If there were profits and viability, they would stay. It's not rocket science. Feed is cheap traffic. And they have no point of sale strength at all in China. And I've worked in the airline industry in China. PEK in general is way higher yielding than PVG. In general, China - US is oversupplied at t...Jump to post
Fares to Cancun are more than that. When that happens, it's not surprising to see that long haul, aircraft and crew intensive routes will be axed. ORD-PVG is cut as well I really don't understand how that route can be bad. Maybe because I can get there tomorrow and come back next week for ~$700. I n...Jump to post
way too much capacity. low fares. it's not that hard.
enilria wrote:Jump to postLemieux wrote:ORD-PVG is cut as well
I really don't understand how that route can be bad.
AA is dropping PHLFRA entirely, it's buried in the release on the chart. The article also mentions AY adding HEL-LAX on 3/31/19. Nice to see AA beating UA to the punch on ORD-ATH, and being the first airline to offer US service from BLQ and DBV. AA's seasonal Europe network from PHL is starting to b...Jump to post
This sums it up: http://s21.q4cdn.com/616071541/files/doc_news/2018/08/American-Airlines-Expands-European-Footprint-and-Modifies-Asia-Service-GUIDE-082118.pdf PHLFRA, PHLGLA, PHLMUC all dropped. JFKDUB, JFKEDI dropped. ORDMAN dropped. From internal website, PHL routes served with 767’s except EDI wh...Jump to post