So a tad of fare spot checking. You can get from DTW to cdg for under $1000 around the Opening ceremonies in July on icelandair. What a steal. But the fare is just as low from three other markets I checked, RDU BWI and PIT. Not a DTW thing. Buuuuuutttt— Delta is essentially matching that fare in the...
Jump to postDoes the Icelandair analysis include onward connections? It probably does but just making sure. As for their fares they are the cheapest option to London Paris etc when I’ve done price shopping from other gateways, not just a Detroit thing.
Jump to postFYI on the UA seat maps I'm only seeing any open seats at all outbound today on Ft. Myers (both flights) , Tampa, and Denver-- but both Denver flights are hours delayed with mechanical issues, the evening flight may have lost some people as a result. Not bad for a Tuesday in April. . . .
Jump to postI don't want to weigh in to the BKL/CLE debate, been discussed on here a lot for years but I do want to say yesterday will go down as one of the great days in Cleveland I can ever remember-- for obvious reasons. As I often do on normal days, I rode my bicycle by Burke both before (~12 noon) and afte...
Jump to postI have to agree with OP here. Airlines ramp up capacity for the spring break and Christmas, this was a known event, treat it like a holiday period. It’s not just cleveland it’s anywhere along the path that has capacity way below demand. Airlines were very flat footed. It’s been getting buzz literall...
Jump to postA lot of flights from SC and Iowa no surprise there. CT and NC not as much.
Hotels have loosened up a bit Sunday night. Now possible to get rooms in a few respectable non downtown hotels <$400 plus taxes. Rooms in Canton don’t seem real elevated in price.
Here’s an article from two weeks ago on how Icelandic volcanic activity/uncertainty is hurting tourism. I saw a similar article in last few days but can’t seem to find it right now. To see how DtW is doing I suggest also checking fares at the more mature FI markets on the same days you’re looking at...
Jump to postI’ve been doing a lot of dummy bookings in to town this weekend and I wouldn’t be surprised if this weekend sets an all time weekend record for CLE— confluence of eclipse and final four. It helps that Iowa made it, it hurts that UConn and NC State will have two choices for their fan base. So many fl...
Jump to postFor what it's worth CLE has a pretty substantial Puerto Rican community, it says so on wikipedia so it must be true. Lorain which is also on the list would be served by CLE airport. Many communities in Eastern PA make this list. but nothing around Pittsburgh that I see. It's a wonder F9 didn't add C...
Jump to postHotels are essentially sold out on 7th. I did a search on hotels.com and fewer than 10 properties had availability and you’re looking at $500 and up. A Marriott Courtyard in Elyria had a room for about $800. Has to be an all time record high for an Elyria motel room! I imagine NCAA just blocks out r...
Jump to postArticle behind paywall so I can't read it but Francis is 100% right to raise this issue. In addition to raising a worthwhile issue-- the airport should try to leverage the situation to get ODOT to pay for reconfiguration of the airport entrance, sorely needed--- but as has been pointed out here big ...
Jump to postOn a different topic for you fare and sky watchers out there-- sure is fun to keep an eye on how the eclipse is impacting air travel in CLE-- I did some spot checking on the big 4 airlines. April 8th is the day after the Final Four, normally you'd expect to see a big spike in fares and very full pla...
Jump to postI think you mean NAS? Nassau? Cleveland hasn’t had service there since before pandemic. It was Saturday only on UA.
Jump to postNot surprised to see a little haircut to FL. It's even spring break week and mid week-- at least if the seat map is accurate-- UA is flying some seriously empty flights to/from warm weather cities. The red eyes from LAS and PHX seem to get about 30 people in coach at least during the week, haven't c...
Jump to postHas there ever been discussion of having a Delta A to E connector that operates behind security so pax don’t have to re clear TSA? That would sure be a more pleasant experience for passengers. If this has been tried in past forgive me haven’t been to BOS in many years.
Jump to postPre covid, Spirit flew CLE BOS summer seasonal for a number of years — with all the summer tourism to the Boston area— made all kinds of sense. Interesting that they are choosing to add this route towards the end of the summer not the beginning. And it’s even more interesting that Spirit is really s...
Jump to postCleveland to somewhere— LHR or FRA. I know a long shot but it’s one city where UA still has some point to point flying.
Jump to postAwesome table JamesRenard. Going to spend some time digesting and looking for more patterns. Can we all just acknowledge that 2024 February had an extra day so on a daily basis seats were down in 2024 compared to 2019 (slightly). Odd press release. The extra day 1/28 = 3.65% plus it was a Thursday w...
Jump to postI’m very realistic about our zero chances to become the next RDU of tatl service but to draw an iota of a conclusion based on a few flights in February when the flight is resuming from a winters hiatus is a waste of time. And while I’m glad to have this service no one would confuse Dublin with Londo...
Jump to postI’ve really had good luck with F9 no complaints but I know it’s just luck. I sure wonder what those poor passengers to Jamaica do. Their whole vacation deposits and plans could be flushed by the time F9 can find room on an alternative flight.
Jump to postNot a pilot, can someone educate me on landing with such landing gear damage? Since no one has commented on that yet I’m assuming, not a big deal, plenty of redundancy with remaining landing gear????
Jump to postThat would be quite a reversal-- as Spirit already pulled out of CAK not too long ago.
https://www.cleveland.com/business/2022 ... r-all.html
Bouncing around here a bit but UAs nonstop service to PHX and LAS begins today, currently slated to end around memorial day. I thought these were indefinite adds to the schedule but guess I was wrong.
Jump to postHere's a very thorough article from Scene on the Blue Abyss project adjacent to Hopkins, aiming to be the largest commercial astronaut training center in the world. Sure would be a fantastic get if it happens-- they just got prelim approval for $450K from the county-- which as a taxpayer-- that's no...
Jump to postI don’t have any insight why F9 won the ULCC battle for cleveland but they clearly have and it’s not even close, NK in retreat.
Jump to postThe PD article is now behind a paywall but it was a tad confusing, it read as if the airlines were paying the $175MM, not signing on as guarantors-- well I guess they are paying for it ultimately, as are the rest of us. No time frame for shovels in the ground but nonetheless this is exciting news-- ...
Jump to postI wish I had the slides to post here but I recently saw a presentation by Fed Reserve of Cleveland in January-- Pittsburgh being part of the same region. I am not sure how up to date the data was, maybe through 2022? It was frankly grim for both cities. Pittsburgh was a little worse than Cleveland, ...
Jump to postMy theory on London: Cleveland doesn’t have a company anything like P&G, a corporate rain maker. In fact I’d go further say some of the largest HQ companies particularly Progressive, Parker, Eaton are downright passive when it comes to boosting the region— they send a message with their uninspir...
Jump to postI love being wrong about the upside— I’m still pretty stunned In a good way about F9 serving 30 destinations this summer. my current worry is that with delay/construction inflation, the airport modernization is getting too pricey. Would be good to see some news. Nice to see the auction of furnishing...
Jump to postTime to put the SJO thing to bed as far as I'm concerned-- as non Clevelanders keep pointing out to us-- it's such a reach. As has been pointed out already, ORD only has weekly service in spite of being a top 3 population metro area and top 5 airport.
Jump to postAt least as of now LAX on NK resumes in April. MYR starts up in April. So there’s a bit more life than there is in Feb/Mar.
Jump to postLooks like you slipped in an extra “not” in there CLEguy towards the end. TLDR: good airfield, not good terminal/parking/ground transportation entry. Should a dome be built in Brookpark and that’s a huge if, the highway redesign to accommodate it and the airport would be pretty substantial and costly.
Jump to post100% greenair. This is a great example. Even Akron MSA would be better off if the subsidies paying for marginal service to cities already served from CLE on an airline with viability questions instead went to CLE to attract TATL service. With F9 going to be interesting to see if any reaction from th...
Jump to postSeeing that full list of cities— many started less than daily and worked their way up. RDU, FLL, CUN, PHL come to mind.
Breeze has a billboard near CLE airport promoting their CAK RDU service. Our liquor store profits/Jobs Ohio money at work.
A few good conversations going on-- so UA is going double daily to LAX around 3/7, earlier than in prior years. So the second flight is essentially shifting from NK to UA, not the worst shift in the world-- I see some dang good fares on some dates. Interestingly UA doesn't go double daily to SFO unt...
Jump to postWhat?! No Costa Rica— a travesty. Wonderful news up to 28 destinations. Would love to know F9 thought process on some teeny markets— they must have some data to suggest for instance PNS or CHS will have an upsurge in demand. Why does Cincy get New England but not CLE? I doubt it’s a complete dartboa...
Jump to postNo one is arguing that air service is the only criteria companies use for location decisions. Bozeman Montana is growing faster than Chicago too, so what!? Other criteria come in to play as well. The F9 CVG announcement is very encouraging it says they aren’t done yet— I thought they were when they ...
Jump to postI haven't read ALL the posts on this thread but most of them. What's not really spoken is that USA hubs these days are either in very large cities or are else giant in size from either a population or tourism standpoint. All of the mini hubs-- CLE/MEM/PIT (well that wasn't so small at one time)/CVG ...
Jump to postRDU has a huge catchment area which would include Pinehurst, and really it’s the best large airport for many parts of the outer banks too— truthfully much of eastern Carolina. Indy’s is big too until you run into CVG and ORD environs. Then again I’m not from Indy I’m kind of guessing but the point i...
Jump to postCleveland is at a disadvantage for sight selection compared to cities like ATL, CLT, BNA, STL, heck now even RDU due to poor air service. ATL and CLT have been sucking up HQs like crazy and I realize there are a lot of reasons beyond just air service but the difference is hard to ignore. I suppose y...
Jump to postVery nice article by Ms. Glaser, really summarizes the key points. Agree 100% Greenair, when it comes to business attractions, cities like CLT ATL BNA just have such a leg up-- many factors are in play but don't think for a second companies don't consider ease of travel for corporate employees. Heck...
Jump to postWho is the person who posted the tweet and why would s/he know any more than any other random dude on twitter?
Jump to postI gave my theory on why cleveland of all markets for this commercial— all about Frontier’s aggressive expansion.
Like the ad or not, UA is getting some free publicity. Channel 3 newscast had a glowing response to the actor in the ad.
The facts that 1) UA is singling out CLE as one of a handful of markets with a customized ad, plus 2) they are flying planes to Florida that are commonly less than half full on weekdays makes me feel they are making moves to counter F9s growth in town, not to respond to some unexpected surge in dema...
Jump to postLast summer perhaps to counter F9, AA went to 6x to DFW and 6x to CLT. It's early, but as of now the AA schedule is back to the usual-- by usual I mean same frequency as peer markets PIT and CMH and IND, 5x to all places. It is worth noting that all 3 of those markets have 1 (PIT/CMH) or 2 (IND) fli...
Jump to postThe NYT had a fabulous online story and graphic/animated video of what happened to the Max9 plugs, referenced very favorably in the monster thread on the topic on airliners. Can’t imagine how much NYT must have spent on the animated video. But heaven forbid people need to pay for that story and vide...
Jump to postThat is a wonderful post thank you and such a shame. Seems like Bolivia could be a wonderful country to visit with a more tourist friendly approach and easier airline access. Salt flats been on my bucket list for a while.
Jump to postAn obvious source of tourism for Bolivia is the US, but a $160 visa requirement-- that's a barrier. Maybe the money is a wash because it's such an inexpensive country, but there's the pain in the neck factor.
Jump to postThe Athletic had an article on whether Taylor Swift could attend from her February 10th concert in Tokyo-- they went through everything, the aircraft she owns (two of them), which one has enough range, the time the concert will end, etc., etc. She can easily make it-- the time difference helps her o...
Jump to postPre-20th Century-- churches/cathedrals were the architectural centerpiece of cities, especially in Europe. Turn of 20th century-- train stations-- Grand Central, Union Station, or many/many fantastic old train stations in Europe. 1920s-- Department Stores. Marshal Fields in Chicago 2024-- Airports!!...
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