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by ncflyer
Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is ATL About To Fall Relative To Other Megahubs?
Replies: 56
Views: 6258

Re: Is ATL About To Fall Relative To Other Megahubs?

Raise your hand if you thought ORD would ever lose its perch as #1 to ATL in the first place. Chicago much larger city, excellent location, two hubs (though it does split traffic with Midway). When it first happened I thought it was a temporary fluke, but boy was I wrong. Point is never say never.

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by ncflyer
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Top 5 busiest intercontinental long-haul routes for AMS, CDG, FRA, LHR by 2017 pax traffic in comparative light
Replies: 42
Views: 6388

Re: Top 5 busiest intercontinental long-haul routes for AMS, CDG, FRA, LHR by 2017 pax traffic in comparative light

Good stuff. Am I the only one surprised that the sum of the top five for FRA is so much smaller than LHR and CDG? Might this be because LH has a duel hub structure with MUN and FRA? AMS a lot smaller too but at least in my mind that would be a bit more expected. Much smaller country than the other t...

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by ncflyer
Sat Apr 21, 2018 11:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is ATL About To Fall Relative To Other Megahubs?
Replies: 56
Views: 6258

Re: Is ATL About To Fall Relative To Other Megahubs?

Right on JFK, shows how myopic Americans can be it took about 6 or 7 posts until someone brought it up. It’s “when not if” Atlanta is overtaken by an airport outside of US. The only thing saving ATL right now is that Beijing is opening a second international airport (I’m not counting NAY), and not c...

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by ncflyer
Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United's Plans for Dulles
Replies: 71
Views: 7234

Re: United's Plans for Dulles

I’m just piling on but for our nations capital what an embarrassment of an airport. Just flew IAD to PEK via C terminal. One airport is a showcase saying this country is modern and going places— and it’s building a ground up reliever airport to boot— and the other capital airport is a bus station wi...

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by ncflyer
Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Bathroom cleaning on long haul flights
Replies: 109
Views: 13876

Bathroom cleaning on long haul flights

I just took my first flight US to Asia, on a US3 carrier, and by the time we landed I used a bathroom that was absolutely disgusting, would have easily been closed had the plane had a department of health. The garbage was overflowing with beer cans and other non bathroom related garbage, , the floor...

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by ncflyer
Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

In percentage terms the increase is crazy high, and it more customers will find Uber or getting dropped off by Uncle Joe more competitive. Then again as pointed out, if the lots are so often full there’s room to test price sensitivity.

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by ncflyer
Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 597
Views: 55422

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Why would it have to do with anything? cDG is not slot constrained.

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by ncflyer
Mon Apr 02, 2018 9:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: CMH VS IND
Replies: 47
Views: 3905

Re: CMH VS IND

As someone alluded to I think the key is this. Indiana is a one trick pony— Indianapolis but not much else. Therefore the states attention is not divided— as evidence the GOVERNOR was at the CDG announcement. Ohio is very divided between three large metro areas. in fact there is a rivalry between th...

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by ncflyer
Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:25 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Hey if it’s on the internet it must be true!

In fairness I do believe wow added more frequencies to PIT CVG and STL pretty quickly. That’s a little more solid I suppose.

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Does your friend know how icelandair is doing? This is the one I hope sticks, if I could only pick one.

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAL 808 diverted
Replies: 5
Views: 3252

Re: UAL 808 diverted

Yep UA has two flights PEK to iAd tomorrow.

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 8:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

What's your source on that flymco? WOW would be pretty dumb to release that publicly, but there are plenty of dumb corporations out there. . . . .

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:51 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

You must not have tried other cities. It’s greyed out for most North American cities, even some big ones like Dtw and DFW. I wouldn’t read too much in to it—- yet. Boston and Chicago show a November schedule. So does BWI.

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UAL 808 diverted
Replies: 5
Views: 3252

Re: UAL 808 diverted

I’ve always assumed when something like this happens they need to send the plane “home” empty and there would have to be some downstream cancellations? I can’t imagine there’s much slack in the system with an asset worth so much money?

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China—US Aviation Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 2627

Re: China—US Aviation Thread

I’m enjoying it, taking full advantage. I just don’t understand it. I understand dirt cheap fares from US to Iceland and connecting cities due to WOW. I don’t understand the same to China. Especially for 14 hour flights.

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by ncflyer
Tue Mar 27, 2018 12:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Future U.S. Expansion Possibilities For Aer Lingus
Replies: 60
Views: 5376

Re: Future U.S. Expansion Possibilities For Aer Lingus

Midwestindy why would CLE fares be in a he toilet but not other markets you mentioned that are also served by WOW? Cleveland only has 9 narrowbodies a week to Iceland this is not a crazy amount of capacity. But like I every other market it serves WOW has enough to drive yields down,

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by ncflyer
Mon Mar 26, 2018 4:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China—US Aviation Thread
Replies: 38
Views: 2627

Re: China—US Aviation Thread

Good thread but to me the #1 question is how do these flights sustain themselves when prices are cheaper than dirt. Midwest USA to China < $600 through spring break season. Mind blowing in comparison to Europe Hawaii or S America Yeah I know someone will say they make it up in the front of the plane...

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Without question cleveland serves the csa of 3 mm and change. Akron airport stinks and downtown Akron is so close to CLE. But 5mm? What are you adding to the csa that doesn’t have closer proximity to pit, cmh, dtw? Erie????? I have always felt that CLE is surrounded by other markets In Every directi...

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by ncflyer
Wed Mar 21, 2018 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

So, from 2004 to 2016, 3.4% growth. I don’t have my financial calculator on me but that’s a CAGR of about 0.2% eyeballing it. Cleveland was hammered in Great Recession and recovery has been meager at best. What matters to businesses is not Cleveland’s growth in isolation, but Cleveland’s growth rela...

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by ncflyer
Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Cleveland CSA is at best stagnant to shrinking, in addition to spreading out. Granted wikipedia is wikipedia, but according to the current page listing population of primary statistical areas, Cleveland CSA has lost 0.5% from 2010 to 2014 (same with Pittsburgh). Furthermore Cleveland's ranking (16) ...

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by ncflyer
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I know several including Greenair comment on parking situation at Hopkins which is indeed problematic. I feel like I have to allow extra time to get to the airport, because it's always a crapshoot whether there will be reasonably priced on sight parking or I have to venture to Snow Road. Well, NPR M...

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by ncflyer
Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

This article is a puff piece by Crain’s. Not a single critical word about the facility, the parking situation, the shuttle situation, etc. I think that quote on international service reads like something a PR agency would write. Don’t get me wrong I’m glad Kennedy is well received by the community, ...

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by ncflyer
Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:23 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

To me you can’t overlook WN service in IND/PIT/CMH. These are three comparably sized markets to CLE with undoubtedly better WN service. CMH just landed daily service to HOU. I really don’t understand what the issue is with WN in CLE but CLE has been a big laggard during and after the UA hub. In fact...

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by ncflyer
Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:36 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I second that. D is 25 years old. It may look nice compared to A B or C but compared to newer airports it too is quite dated and configured horribly relative to the main building. For instance I just traveled to RDU for first time in 10 years. Their Terminal C I believe they call it, the one that ho...

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by ncflyer
Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:52 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Even if it’s in wonderful condition who in the heck needs it? Not like the airport is gate constrained. Nor is there a stampede to build new hubs or focus cities in the Midwest.

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 08, 2018 10:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

mCI would be nice but I don’t think WN will grow there much until the new MCI airport is built. As it stands now it’s a horrible place to connect.

There’s several markets that could use MCI service.

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I'm sure folks saw on the Ohio thread or the WN thread that WN is adding daily service CMH to HOU. I hope CLE is next but clearly it's down the chain from CMH and PIT. There's been lots of hope expressed on this thread that WN would use their extra gate at CLE to expand to HOU, DAL, or even the west...

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: American Airlines Philadelphia (PHL) Hub
Replies: 56
Views: 7834

Re: American Airlines Philadelphia (PHL) Hub

I avoid PHL for connections at all costs. It seems to me to be the most delay prone airport outside of NY (also airports to be avoided, though Newark isn't quite as bad). Boston is a comparably sized airport that doesn't seem to have near as many problems as Philly. Can someone here please explain w...

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Boston aviation - 2018
Replies: 682
Views: 55586

Re: Boston aviation - 2018

Agreed it’s a strange route but Chengdu a second tier city? North of 11mm in the city. Never been but I understand it’s a real hub for China manufacturing and tech growth and the largest economic engine of western China. Huge investment underway to make it tech hub. So— not Guangzhou or Beijing or S...

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by ncflyer
Wed Mar 07, 2018 9:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 597
Views: 55422

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

It's interesting to me that the UA flights divert to PIT when CLE is so damn close yet presumably has more UA resources available for unscheduled flights.

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by ncflyer
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Chicago O'Hare - ORD - Summer 2018 Int'l Schedule
Replies: 66
Views: 7331

Re: Chicago O'Hare - ORD - Summer 2018 Int'l Schedule

This is great info thank you for posting. I don’t live in ORD but I read with great interest the articles about planned expansion. A big driver of the project is to drive international growth by improving the connecting experience. Then I see this post and I’m just very surprised seeing all these fl...

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by ncflyer
Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I’m really surprised by the AA NYC growth. Anecdotal of course but I’ve never been blown away by loads on LGA in particular. Of course I don’t know yields. Delta flies the best planes on the route— yeah I know it’s not saying much.

The Kennedy growth could be in response the Icelandic carriers.

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6570

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

So let’s see the nonhubs that UA serves are: LGA, served by DL and AA BOS, served by B6 and Spirit (summer only) DCA, served by AA MKE, served by WN MCO, RSW, FLL, served by B6 and the ULCC LAX served by Spirit Then the oddball weekly/occasional routes SJU (if it returns), CUN (served by F9), I beli...

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6570

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

Death watch? The major part of the death already occurred unless I’m missing something. In a stroke of bad luck CLE is tied to the US3 with the lowest interest in nonhub flying. CVG and PIT seem to have more secure futures. Unfortunately WN doesn’t need any more hubs they have plenty. That ship has ...

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by ncflyer
Thu Mar 01, 2018 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Why doesn't AA build up DFW like DL has with ATL?
Replies: 37
Views: 5873

Re: Why doesn't AA build up DFW like DL has with ATL?

One thought I have is that on east west flows served out of DFW, it is redundant with ORD. If a New Yorker is flying to SJC for instance they really have two choices on AA. But if a New Yorker is flying to Florida they only have one choice to on Delta, for markets that aren’t served nonstop.

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by ncflyer
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:55 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff
Replies: 135
Views: 6286

Re: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff

For those interested in an unbelievably informative history of the NRA I recommend listening to the “More Perfect” podcast on the topic, released a couple months ago. The organization was started by a NYT reporter interested in promoting gun safety especially for youths. I’ll just say it evolved fro...

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by ncflyer
Wed Feb 28, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff
Replies: 135
Views: 6286

Re: Delta risks $40 mill in tax breaks over NRA riff

Wonder how many people here taking issue with Deltas stance withdrawing the NRA discount shop at hobby lobby or eat at Chic FIl A. Corporations are free to do what they please, customers can go elsewhere and shareholders can sell their stock. $40mm to delta is absolutely chump change. What’s most up...

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by ncflyer
Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 193
Views: 15116

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

Did RDU miscalculate with the terminal renovations? For a very new expansion in a market well known to be rapidly growing. Out of space already???

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by ncflyer
Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air adds KEF-CVG, STL, DTW & CLE!
Replies: 171
Views: 22198

Re: WOW Air adds KEF-CVG, STL, DTW & CLE!

The other observation to make about CLE is anecdotally, FI seems very price competitive to WW, especially considering that so much more is included with the base fair on the former. I am not familiar enough with FI to know if it’s how they always price or it’s price matching.

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by ncflyer
Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air adds KEF-CVG, STL, DTW & CLE!
Replies: 171
Views: 22198

Re: WOW Air adds KEF-CVG, STL, DTW & CLE!

Why would you expect CLe to lead the pack when it also has service from a better airline to the same destination? As a Clevelander I can tell you which one I’m picking when the time comes…

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by ncflyer
Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Do you think the 'Southwest Effect' still exists?
Replies: 74
Views: 7095

Re: Do you think the 'Southwest Effect' still exists?

Southwest is hub and spoke airline for the most part. Granted they have more smaller hubs than the US3, but they are still hubs. WN willingness to start a new route to compete with buses and drivers is long, long gone. I do think there strategy had to change after 9/11. For a number of years securit...

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by ncflyer
Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Yep for those of us CLE watchers I'm afraid we are entering now a sustained period of peak dullness. The recovery from UA closure is complete or if anything maybe a touch overcorrected, there's very hopeful conversation about an international flight, but that's about it. Hope for a new hub is about ...

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by ncflyer
Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 823
Views: 60636

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

Why Cvg Cle isn’t served is a real mystery to me. Granted CLE center of gravity is more PIT DTW ORD whereas CVG gravitates more towards the south but these have to be the two of the biggest cities in the same state without air connection in the whole country (that aren’t a quick drive). And yeah I k...

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by ncflyer
Mon Feb 12, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US
Replies: 100
Views: 9941

Re: Aer Lingus planning more International flights to US

I could really see IND. Yeah, they got the Paris flight but just thinking of Cummins and their factory at Daventry, getting to BHX seems much more convenient via DUB where you can go through immigration on your layover. Same with Eli Lilly and the university traffic. How many pax per day in busines...

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by ncflyer
Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Wonder how many Cleveland watchers would bet that WN cuts MKE over adding something new to Texas— if forced to pick one or the other. Hope I’m wrong but I’m bearish on WN plans for cleveland.

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by ncflyer
Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

This is a common post on threads throughout these forums. “Company x” would make this route happen. Realistically how many people in business class would Eaton send a day to Ireland with a nonstop flight?

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by ncflyer
Fri Feb 09, 2018 4:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 193
Views: 15116

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

I only count F9 adds as 1/2 of a new city. Their commitments are so fleeting, they don’t seem to have a real concrete strategy like B6 and WN did when they grew from nothing, the frequency is no suitable to business travelers. Oh yeah, plus on the days they do fly it’s too many seats. Need to keep f...

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by ncflyer
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:41 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Service changes from F9 leave me so empty. They are fleeting (Austin cut already?? LOL!!) and crowd out more stable service to a place like Seattle.

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by ncflyer
Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 597
Views: 55422

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018

ConcourseZ you're quoting populations statistics which don't include CAK. 30 minutes downtown to downtown, Akron to Cleveland. But more to the point, I used to live in RDU. This is a metro area smaller than CLE and PIT. Yet their air service and passenger counts blow away either city. Why? Better ed...

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by ncflyer
Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 525
Views: 42321

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

greenair, this is one where technology is continuing to evolve and where it ends up 20 years from now who knows. Right now, uber/lyft is such a stiff competitor to rental cars, the Cleveland setup has to be driving business away from the rental cars towards ride sharing services, it's so much more c...

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