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by ncflyer
Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 84
Views: 7873

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Is cle sju really being cut or is it a typical seasonal adjustment? I have to imagine this one is in hands of a tour operator that commits to filling seats. Analogous to Frontier albeit much smaller but Enilirias Post this week has some Spirit trimming at CLE this spring, a cutback of daily service ...

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by ncflyer
Fri Jan 19, 2018 8:27 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 84
Views: 7873

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Of note, absolutely no hint of new international service in the article. The PD hasn’t picked up on the Crains prediction issue as newsworthy.

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by ncflyer
Thu Jan 18, 2018 8:31 pm
Forum: Non-Aviation
Topic: 2nd Amazon HQ Finalists - No SEA-CMH
Replies: 102
Views: 6338

Re: 2nd Amazon HQ Finalists - No SEA-CMH

Columbus is a semi finalist, even without good air service, because Amazon probably has dozens of criteria. We will never know all of them, nor will we ever know how Amazon weights them. Obviously air service is a criteria, but having an ATL isn’t necessary— nor is being CLT or MSP or DTW enough.

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by ncflyer
Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 84
Views: 7873

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

At least for now the current IAD summer schedule shows only Endeavor. In fact it looks like the 5PM flight from IAD to CLE, at least on the days I looked at, is a CR7, last year it was mainline plane being positioned to fly the evening flight to LAX or SFO and best I could tell it was quite full. Ni...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 84
Views: 7873

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I know it’s early but it sure is disappointing to read enilirias posts. Cleveland gets a hill of beans. Meantime PIT is getting really nice capacity upgrades to Boston and Indy keeps getting ads to the west coast, the latest being a second flight to Seattle, this one on delta. I sure don’t understan...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: MCI announcement 1/9-Icelandair announces KEF-MCI
Replies: 136
Views: 11322

Re: MCI announcement 1/9-Icelandair announces KEF-MCI

This is a smart strategy going for underserved mid size US markets such as CLE and MCI. You wonder if the US3 will feel pressure to copy to their partner stations in Europe. So much easier to change in Iceland rather than East coast hubs.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 84
Views: 7873

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

My prediction is it will be an exceptionally boring year. Seems like NEO is at an equilibrium for air service. Great to be back to where we were but we don’t have a focus city big brother like RDU or STL or IND to get the airport to the next level. As I said earlier I can’t put much stock in a Crain...

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by ncflyer
Fri Jan 05, 2018 3:09 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018
Replies: 125
Views: 12345

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018

As a taxpayer I would certainly hope there aren’t cbp professionals waiting around for the phone to ring once in an eon when an a380 lands in PIT. It’s an extraordinary circumstance and no business or entity can bear the cost of being prepared just in case the black swan floats by.

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by ncflyer
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018
Replies: 125
Views: 12345

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2018

I think WOW will cannibalize itself with the opening of the CLE route (and with competition in CLE from the superior but slightly more expensive Icelandair product). So many people (myself included) make the super easy drive from CLE to PIT to save significant money on Transatlantic flying. But thos...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jan 02, 2018 9:07 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 173
Views: 9376

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

If INDY is anything like CLE then LGA loads are great M/Th/F but terrible otherwise-- such a business dependent and expensive route. Indy is a little different than CLE/CMH/PIT but NY is close enough and LGA so damn delay-prone that it is just as easy for price sensitive travelers to drive the 8 mos...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jan 02, 2018 12:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 84
Views: 7873

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I’m sure this has been written about on an LH thread— anyone know if they intend to operate the 321 NEO on translatlantic? And when do they come on line? I agree with the comments that it’s hard to find an airline with a suitable aircraft for something new. Looks like the 320neo, already in the Luft...

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by ncflyer
Sun Dec 31, 2017 1:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I just went on line to read the quote. It’s next to a prediction by an auto dealer that Facebook will have a precipitous drop in users. LOL!

Just saying…it’s a prediction issue. Way way way too much reading in to it here.

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by ncflyer
Sun Dec 31, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I’m sorry but I just can’t get excited about this. It’s prediction time of year and a prediction issue. What carrier in their right mind would come in to Cleveland at this point. We all just got done commenting on how fares are halved with the arrival of the two Icelandic carriers. The airport direc...

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by ncflyer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

So this is really good news then from CLE, if true regarding the legacies being more prone to matching Icelandair but not WOW, then we ought to see some passengers driving to NEO from other markets. One thing I learn, people are damn resourceful when it comes to saving money--- and tools such as Kay...

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by ncflyer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 7:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

lakeeffect--- this hardly seems believable but it is! Try $1000 cheaper than CDG was last summer from CLE. I bought a split ticket from CLE to IAD and then IAD to CDG to save $700 off the $1800 CLE asking price, all on UA. This was peak July travel. Let us hope Clevelanders realize who is driving do...

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by ncflyer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

And by the way for my upcoming trip to Europe in March PIT is about $200 cheaper per person, well worth the easy drive for a family. I'm looking forward to the day, in the very near future, when it's no longer advantageous to drive to PIT/DTW/or YYZ. I know Massey and others have said where is the g...

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by ncflyer
Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Good news for CLE lakeeffect, like I keep saying small victories. Last time I looked CLE only had one A319 to CLT and the rest on on the regionals. So my guess on the JFK buildup (and I don't remember the timing of when it was announced) is that with the arrival of WOW and Icelandair, everyone is an...

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by ncflyer
Mon Dec 18, 2017 3:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Small victories. . . . (well I guess two carriers to Iceland was a bigger victory this year). This is what the CLE chat board is amounting to unfortunately. We will take it. From Eniliria's post looks like DEN is getting some frequency adds this summer, it's nice to be on the receiving end of that. ...

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by ncflyer
Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Hainan to further grow US service; codeshare with AS + B6 in 2018
Replies: 49
Views: 6461

Re: Hainan to further grow US service; codeshare with AS + B6 in 2018

Airfare to China from US are so absurdly cheap compared to other international. I don’t know how the heck Hainan and others afford to feed the gerbils that must be powering these planes

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by ncflyer
Tue Dec 12, 2017 5:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I didn't notice this one until recently but AA is flying 2 full big jets to PHL right now, I assume A319 but not sure. Gotta accept our small victories. On the other hand only one big jet to CLT, I'm really surprised about this one during snow season--- I think many people would prefer changing in C...

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by ncflyer
Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:32 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I don’t believe UA has run 2x to LAX or SFO outside of the summer since the hub closed, regardless of what is in UA advance schedule 90 days out.

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by ncflyer
Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 146314

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

Using the logic presented by the researcher, BWI, IAD, and DCA should all be shut down and build one mega airport. They are all closer together than PIT-CLE. Not going to happen. On technical merit, makes sense. When you consider all of the other variables, dumb idea. It is an unworkable idea I'm n...

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by ncflyer
Sat Nov 25, 2017 6:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Joeman I second your point re: UA adding to EwR first if they’ve got extra aircraft.

In fact I think UA/CO showed that 300 times over when CLE had a hub.

Why would now be any different?

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by ncflyer
Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Well, Massey, sunk cost is sunk cost-- that's probably how UA should think about it. I'd guess what matters to UA is the incremental profitability they expect from the flights. You could probably argue that for any station-- whether it's expensive like CLE or super cheap like CLT, adding a few more ...

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by ncflyer
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 146314

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

Super interesting video, I do find it too bad that these two cities don't cooperate on more, I think they'd both benefit. A big problem is that due to urban sprawl, people don't live downtown anymore, so it would add time for suburbanites just to get to the rail station. The only thing in the video ...

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by ncflyer
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS makes PDX-MKE/PHL/BWI/ATL year round service
Replies: 46
Views: 5496

Re: AS makes PDX-MKE/PHL/BWI/ATL year round service

Chugach, thank you. Take out the words Portland for Pittsburgh and Seattle for Philadelphia. Deja vu. An overcrowded Philly was a big part of the twin hub rationale. Will be interesting to follow. One thing that really hurts cities like PIT is that it is so easily drivable to NY/DC/Ohio,even Chicago...

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by ncflyer
Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AS makes PDX-MKE/PHL/BWI/ATL year round service
Replies: 46
Views: 5496

Re: AS makes PDX-MKE/PHL/BWI/ATL year round service

So I'm not a big Alaska watcher, and maybe this has been discussed a lot elsewhere but is Alaska having decent sized operations in Portland and Seattle reminiscent of USAir which had hubs in Pittsburgh and Philadelphia back in the day? Seems like a recipe for redundant costs- which is what spelled t...

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by ncflyer
Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:33 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: How often are airlines operating flights with small load factors?
Replies: 34
Views: 7622

Re: Small Load Factor

To me the more interesting question is flights with consistently low load factors. . . .why they would continue to fly with as much capacity as they do. Obviously some rural routes in USA are subsidized--- but beyond that?????

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by ncflyer
Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Thank you compensateme, very informative.

Hindsight being 20/20 it sure seems like money spent on the runway would have been better spent on a better pax facilities? I remember when that runway project was attached to people dreaming about flights to Asia. . . boy does that seem comical now.

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by ncflyer
Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

There is people on the cle dot com commenting that because the airport is convenient for them and the fact that they do not have a hub anymore, that there is no need for a new airport ! Think they are totally wrong Right, that is where the provincialism of this town is infuriating, too many people ...

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by ncflyer
Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2017/11/build_a_new_cleveland_hopkins.html#incart_river_home_pop Really nice discussion over on cleveland.com debating merits for new airport. To me it's a no brainer needed. Whether the money exists, who the heck knows. But how can Kansas City and Pittsburg...

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by ncflyer
Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest Rolls-Out New Digital Signs
Replies: 28
Views: 6606

Re: Southwest Rolls-Out New Digital Signs

I watched the video with great skepticism, that like others have said, WN is 10 years behind everyone else, but I came away impressed. The % full and likelihood that C boarders can get their roller boards in the overheads is incredibly useful information for that airline. Highlighting the gate direc...

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by ncflyer
Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

CLEguy, nice post, nice arguments. So much of what you say could be applied EXACTLY to PIT, yet somehow that region is finding a way to redo their 25 year old airport, which isn't as bad as ours IMHO. (Yeah I know Pittsburghers make it seem like their city is the hottest thing since Austin, but like...

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by ncflyer
Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

For some reason B6 doesn't seem to want to serve the midwestish territory from JFK. JFK is excellent to FL, pretty excellent Chicago and west and Buffalo and east (until you get too close to NYC), but PIT/CLE/DTW/BNA nothing. No JFK to recently announced MSP either. Curiously DFW is not served from ...

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by ncflyer
Thu Nov 09, 2017 9:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Yes I don't understand this one either. I know DL tried with a lousy schedule but IND is another one. Frontier aside, I think once a day routes are tough. I fly to BDL a lot, and seldom does DL's one flight a day work out for me, so I'm left flying through BWI, the most reliable east coast hub in my...

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by ncflyer
Thu Nov 09, 2017 6:45 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I agree Massey, doesn't need to be a 100% rebuild, some airports such as BDL very cleverly remade themselves in place. FLL too has done a very nice job of this (in addition to building some new terminals). Heck even CAK did a nice job with their newer little gate addition, which has a far more moder...

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by ncflyer
Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I wonder if we are at the point where our stinky airport (which is a literal statement given the mildew stench in spots and the ventilation in the closets they call bathrooms) is going to put an upper limit on growth. MCI taxpayers just voted a new airport. Along with PIT and I believe CMH, and alre...

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by ncflyer
Mon Nov 06, 2017 12:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which US Airport Has the Poential to Become the Next Hub?
Replies: 120
Views: 14199

Re: Which US Airport Has the Poential to Become the Next Hub?

Why would DL turn RdU in to hub with ATL so close? Can’t think of a single city pair it would advantage over ATL. They have already shown what they think of a CVG and MEM, both redundant with ATL. (Well CVG probably more redundant with DTW).

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by ncflyer
Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Which US Airport Has the Poential to Become the Next Hub?
Replies: 120
Views: 14199

Re: Which US Airport Has the Poential to Become the Next Hub?

The US Airlines have spent years merging and dismantling hubs, plus downsizing US Domestic capacity, not sure why they'd be in the mood to now add back in the huge fixed costs of a hub now. Maybe, maybe Jet Blue or Alaska will want something more in the interior of the country, but I wouldn't hold m...

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by ncflyer
Sat Nov 04, 2017 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Interesting. Any idea what their peak was— or are we there now? I seem to remember fewer cities but more frequencies years back.

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by ncflyer
Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

WN has shown time and time again that they have modest interest in expanding in CLE at best. Haven’t counted in a while but I’d bet that the number of flights today is same as when the station opened. Sad to say I’ve come to conclusion there’s a lot more wishful thinking than reality. It Would be ju...

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by ncflyer
Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:53 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 146314

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

Really no need to argue this out 1.Hardly anything to do with aviation 2.Amazon will decide soon enough Midwestindy i learn a lot from your posts but point 2 Has me flummoxed. You know how much speculation there is on these boards? That’s half the fun people have on here. For instance there’s a gre...

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by ncflyer
Tue Oct 31, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Hopefully this Plug and Play will keep CLE moving in the right direction, I share your optimism. I think the main reason we don't have service to LHR, CDG, FRA, and/or AMS, is because we're tied mainly to UA, which has showed such little to no willingness for transatlantic flights outside of their U...

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by ncflyer
Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Sadly I thought that article pretty much said nothing. FLL? Really? Just what we don’t seem to need. I wish I understood why after their AAhubs shut down STL and BNA grew WN beautifully, but CLE (and PIT for that matter) gets scraps after their hub closures. I suspect CLE too late to the party. CMH ...

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by ncflyer
Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 146314

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

Wow. Pittsburgh has everything Detroit has? Nonstop flights to Tokyo, Seoul, Rome, Beijing, Shanghai, Rio, as part of a large hub airport? I must have missed that. A decent sized Canadian City as a source of immigrant talent fifteen minutes away? Must have missed that too, I’d be curious what suburb...

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by ncflyer
Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I get CCF has, or is building, strong ties to some foreign cities, but realistically, how much traffic a day could that possibly generate? As a patient of CCF and a taxpayer in a region that grants them all kinds of tax breaks, I sure hope they really frown upon business class travel. Respectfully F...

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by ncflyer
Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:47 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread 2016-2017
Replies: 1198
Views: 146314

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 34

I'm not from PIT have no loyalties and I agree with you chances are good, I'd put it in top 5 cities I'd bet on for sure. But if I were a betting man and could place wagers I think I'd put more money on Detroit. Both cities are sufficiently east coast, I totally agree with those sentiments. Why Detr...

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by ncflyer
Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA launches LAX-SIN
Replies: 354
Views: 59535

Re: UA launches LAX-SIN

Jumbojet do you think UA can just write a check, and the factories that manufacture the Polaris seats and other equipment, plus the hangars that retrofit the planes spit them out at unlimited speed? That's how doughnuts are made, but not airplanes. . . .

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by ncflyer
Wed Oct 25, 2017 6:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 152147

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

It’s cool that virgin Atlantic has partnership with the nfl but having that beautiful bird on the ground sure doesn’t provide much marketing value in the Cleveland market! And not only because the Browns stink and are an embarrassing association. If I wasn’t an airline nerd I wouldn’t even know how ...

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by ncflyer
Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA has bed bugs, and who else?
Replies: 23
Views: 6053

Re: BA has bed bugs, and who else?

Boy I don't think airlines would typically make an announcement that they have bed bugs. Bed bugs happen all the time, we don't hear about it. I worked at a hospital, there was commonly rooms taken out of service so they could be fumigated. I have friends who refuse to check out books from the publi...

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