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by ncflyer
Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:43 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Private messaging works, thank you CLEguy. I'm going to private message joeman, mbm3, CLEguy, and once we agree on a good time/place I'll post that for anyone else to see. Please check your inboxes, it looks like I can group message.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jul 20, 2018 1:56 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Ok it’s official we have a quorum. Fantastic. CLEguy, mbm3, and me. I’m going to suggest a couple of times by the end of the weekend. It’ll be a little awkward to coordinate times over a forum but I don’t know how else to do it. Normally I’d gather ideas for an agenda ahead of time, but that is toug...

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by ncflyer
Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I'm reading lots of really interesting ideas, some disagreeing with me that a new terminal is needed (I respect this viewpoint but I wonder what PIT knows? Their current terminal is far better than CLE's in my opinion), some saying political or economic conditions aren't right, some saying the city ...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:18 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I'm posting this as a bit of a long shot-- but what the heck. I'm looking for responses. I've said repeatedly on my posts that I'm disappointed that the business leaders of NE Ohio don't apply any pressure on the airport and the city/Mayor to replace the current 1950s era facility, with all the many...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 17, 2018 1:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Too bad that 4th DEN departure added this summer doesn't stick year round. I know loads don't equal profits but anecdotally UA loads to DEN are very high no matter what the capacity is. I sure hope that next summer, a seasonal add for UA, in lieu of the now year round California flights, will be SEA...

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by ncflyer
Mon Jul 16, 2018 6:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Maybe just maybe 2019 will be the first year that UA adds seats to CLE since the hub closure. They’ve done nothing but subtract until now.

Though not announced, and not a ton of seats— it looks like SJU and CUN weekend service are no longer on UA.

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by ncflyer
Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

now We know. It’s lobbyists for charters of major league athletes that keep Burke open. I bike by that airport all the time during the summer and I think the only time I’ve seen any action whatsoever was when I purposely timed it to see AF One a month or two ago.

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

No doubt about it Greenair, but how do you think the Mayor would react when (not if. . .. ) he finds out one of his lieutenants was meeting with business leaders in order to push an agenda different than the Mayor's priorities for the city voters? From what I can tell, Kennedy is taking a good appro...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Greenair airport directors come and go and always will, especially in this town with it being a difficult job and a highly politicized one (no guarantee that Kennedy would even keep his job once Jackson's term ends. . . . ). In my mind the pressure has to come from the business community, and this i...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

No way will UA/AA/DL/etc agree to take on more debt at Hopkins to help Iceland air carriers, which is a big reason why I think FIS improvement needs to be part of a much bigger airport renovation, not a one off project. . . . from what I can tell in the press and letters to the PD, the airlines bagg...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

The airport is being run by a pro now. It’s been mismanaged and under prioritized by civic leaders for two generations or even more. I put a lot of blame on the business community. The growth association ran a totally fruitless “save the hub” campaign as UA merged. That money would have been better ...

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by ncflyer
Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1193
Views: 96299

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

an Indy person will know the specifics but I have to assume the deal they struck with delta for cDG is going to set the bar higher for other cities of comparable size. After all it’s not “can AMS be flown profitably from CMH”. It’s “is it the next Most profitable use of an available plane”. Is CMH r...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

International numbers are so sketchy. Iceland carriers will hopefully reduce the practice but often it’s very advantageous to buy two separate tickets— one to get to the east coast and one to get to Europe. I automatically check Boston when I fly to Europe. JetBlue keeps fares low to get there and B...

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by ncflyer
Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Yep, WN must not perform as well on the battle for Chicago O/D traffic in CLE as it does in some of CLE's peer cities in the Midwest, wouldn't know how else to explain it. I can never remember a time when PIT had more service to MDW than CLE, this is a first. Six months through the year and still aw...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jul 03, 2018 3:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1014
Views: 97835

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

The question that always has to be asked when a flight is axed is "compared to what alternative". I guess WN has decided that they can do better with a plane flying two hops (or maybe slightly more than that) in the same amount of time as PIT-LAX. I dont' think WN's business model is super...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Makes me sad too but what would make me happy is if Cleveland leaders finally realize that a 50 year old facility that's been patched together with odd ball expansions through the decades isn't going to cut it, especially as compared to other forward thinking cities-- just like it'll be hard to patc...

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by ncflyer
Sat Jun 30, 2018 5:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1014
Views: 97835

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

The house of cards I wonder about (I hope it’s not) is the expansion itself. Is the financing in place and the ribbon cutting scheduled? Though I’ve not seen it written about generally speaking in the news, the steel tariffs have to be causing havoc on construction costs.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN to Boston...the right move in hindsight?
Replies: 34
Views: 3796

Re: WN to Boston...the right move in hindsight?

What I'd like to know is what does operating in these congested airports do to WN's overall operation, this is a cost that is hard to measure. Famously in its early days WN avoided these airports, because the fast turnarounds were so critical to aircraft utilization. Gone are the days when WN's oper...

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by ncflyer
Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I think we're only down one frequency from last winter...MDW was previously 5x daily and BNA was 2x daily. I guess I'm glass half empty then. You say "only down one frequency", I say 20% drop in capacity to lowest levels to Chicago Midway the station has seen since it's been open, to the ...

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by ncflyer
Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Definitely MDW is being cut to many places, I just noticed that myself. But I also note that DAL is getting a bunch of new daily markets and CLE is not among them. Jacksonville and Louisville and Charleston over CLE????? Charleston (CHS) Ft. Myers/Naples (RSW) Jacksonville (JAX) Louisville (SDF) Mil...

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by ncflyer
Thu Jun 28, 2018 2:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

In recent winters MDW has had 5 flights. 4 has got to be the fewest flights to MDW since the station opened, in spite of the fact that Chicago is CLE's #1 destination. People hoping for WN to MCI, HOU, DAL--- or even more of a prayer SAN and OAK--- WN just can't make it any clearer what the CLE stat...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jun 26, 2018 4:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Isn't luggage delivery the responsibility of the airline, not the airport? My guess is it's an undersized contracted staff and their first responsibility--- how they are measured--- is getting the outbound flight on its way on a timely basis (the turn is very tight for both Icelandic carriers)- ther...

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by ncflyer
Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I don't know where this stands but in 2016 KEF was announced by DHS as one of 11 airports on the short list of conversion to pre-clearance. Announcement was made under the Obama administration, if that matters. Pre-clearance would be a game changer on the Iceland flights at least, and would make it ...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:09 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: China-US Air Pax Traffic Data for 2017 by Airport-Pair and Load Factor: A Cold Hard Look
Replies: 29
Views: 4055

Re: China-US Air Pax Traffic Data for 2017 by Airport-Pair and Load Factor: A Cold Hard Look

Given that round trip airfares from much of the USA to China can be had for $600 or therabputs during much of the year I think these loads are horrible. So let’s see flights from ORD to China are 80% full, many of the pax also have a connecting flight which adds cost to the journey, and fares are ch...

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by ncflyer
Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1336
Views: 81116

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Wow no wonder Delta was paid a giant incentive to offer CDG. Yeah sure there is much to be served beyond cdg but we all knowO&D is far and away more profitable.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jun 22, 2018 11:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Would that debt include what UA specifically owes still for D? Or would UA account for that separately.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1014
Views: 97835

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

The good news is that all this gate shuffling is in the name of the airport modernization. Guess that means everything is moving forward AOK. Steel tariffs and interest rates creeping up-- the environment is changing.

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by ncflyer
Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: AUS to become a Delta Focus City
Replies: 426
Views: 41994

Re: AUS to become a Delta Focus City

This may be discussed ad nauseum in other places but what difference does it make what Delta calls Austin? Isn’t all that matters the number of flights? if Delta calls it a focus city does that open up new connecting possibilities that would otherwise not be bookable? Not trying to be flip i’m Hones...

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by ncflyer
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: JetBlue Network Thread 2018
Replies: 223
Views: 23710

Re: JetBlue Network Thread 2018

Really good stuff. One thing I've never understood is why out of Boston, BUF and PIT are two of the more frequently serviced cities, with 5 and 6 flights respectively. Why is this so much more than say CLE and DTW with 3 flights? None of the routes are B6 monopolies. Seeing the loads on BUF and PIT-...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jun 17, 2018 11:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1336
Views: 81116

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Gotcha MidwestIndy, my bad. So, someone posted a rumor that UA is flying more to CLE than they otherwise would due to the MX facility. It’s a rumor so who knows if it’s really true but I really wonder how these flights do from a profitability standpoint given that they compete against Spirit, Fronti...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Not true midwestindy. For instance 5 to dfw was new this summer. For it to continue year round, and without the a319 is a nice boost.

Judging by enilirias post this week AA is making some slight shifts from PHL to CLt in a bunch of markets.

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by ncflyer
Sat Jun 16, 2018 4:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1014
Views: 97835

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Thank you I like the train solution that is very creative, I imagine it will only be improved if/when a new terminal is built. I think what you're saying Runway28L is international passengers who do check their luggage claim it in concourse C and then have bring it with them on the secured train? Th...

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by ncflyer
Sat Jun 16, 2018 2:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1014
Views: 97835

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

Can someone here tell me--- for international arrivals in PIT, do passengers have to re-enter the secure airside area to get to final baggage claim, or does customs exit directly to the final baggage claim/ground transportation area? There is a lively discussion on this topic on the Cleveland forum....

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by ncflyer
Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Jetpixx that would be so much more than a terminal A connector. Brand new FIS from scratch in a building that is currently shut down and not built for mainline aircraft? Making people walk outside in the elements? I don’t understand your proposal it seems worse than the other bad options.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Someone else will have to answer Greenair's questions about which gates feed FIS but if I'm not mistaken it is 2 or 3 gates towards the end of A. Not the very end, but just about. I just wish a civic or business leader would get a new terminal on the civic agenda. I know it's not cheap, easy, or may...

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by ncflyer
Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:02 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

OK I read the article it is not specific enough to say whether the secure path is at ground level or not, but I could see the project being very complex, I'm sure whichever regulatory agency governs sterile immigration areas has very strict requirements, we don't know the half of them.

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by ncflyer
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Greenair, YYZ's USA regional jet concourse-- which is a bus station variant, might be a model for the challenge CLE faces. Glass walls separating a long corridor down the concourse, special revolving doors so that boarding can be segregated from passengers exiting to immigration (actually now that I...

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by ncflyer
Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:13 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 279
Views: 22637

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

Fair enough rajincajun, your point is taken, I would never do it, but I tend to be more aware of connections and backups. However I will say this, a lot of the northern markets to RDU-- for instance my hometown of CLE (which could at least in theory provide a lot of feed to the southern markets)-- a...

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by ncflyer
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:17 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 279
Views: 22637

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

Not to turn this in to a Frontier thread, but who in their right mind would connect in a place like Raleigh. If you miss your flight from Buffalo to Montego Bay because of a snowstorm (assuming the banks work out for such a routing in the first place), it could be 3 days until the next flight. Not n...

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by ncflyer
Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:19 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's going on at RDU - 2018
Replies: 279
Views: 22637

Re: What's going on at RDU - 2018

Astonishing is the word, but everything F9 does is as fleeting as a hub in Trenton.

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by ncflyer
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Oh well, mostly my fingers are crossed that they stick with year round service-- this will give them a leg up against WOW (at least based on what WOW has committed to on the schedule so far) and it will probably speak well to their bookings and yields-- or at the very least in their patience in deve...

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by ncflyer
Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018
Replies: 1014
Views: 97835

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread - 2018

A cracker plant is nothing to sneeze at but it’s more like a data center. Very expensive to build, lots of construction workers, but not tons of jobs when it is fully operational. At least that’s my understanding.

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by ncflyer
Thu Jun 07, 2018 7:33 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

There's a terrific article on Crain's Cleveland this week about how stale Cleveland's business and political leadership is-- this according to CEO's anonymously interviewed for the article. The leaders of all major civiic organizations, as well as Jackson and Budish, are long entrenched and/or aging...

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by ncflyer
Thu Jun 07, 2018 1:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Let us hope that NE Ohioans reward icelandair rather than choosing instead to get overrated UA mileage plus miles.

I’m finding that fares to London And Paris are a great bargain. Other European cities served by icelandair not as much. Who knows could be my dates.

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by ncflyer
Tue Jun 05, 2018 2:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

No LH when UA had a hub, I don’t see why there’d be LH now… Frankly I don’t see the US 3 with unserved routes either, let alone LH. We are in unfortunate position of having a UA focus, as UA seems far less interested in nonhub routes than Delta especially. I’m frankly surprised LGA UA has held on so...

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by ncflyer
Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

On WN, I'm sure everyone noticed that another WN extension and another big nothing burger for CLE, in spite of all the wishful thinking on this board that WN would add HOU, DAL, SAN, OAK, and heck even a recent DCA. PIT meantime got a second flight to BNA (I'm surprised they had been lagging here) a...

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by ncflyer
Thu May 31, 2018 6:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1193
Views: 96299

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

Are the raw numbers somewhere? With 11% growth on a big base, I'd have to assume Delta is really the one driving up passenger numbers.

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by ncflyer
Wed May 30, 2018 5:12 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018
Replies: 1336
Views: 81116

Re: Indianapolis Aviation Thread - 2018

Give it time-- those 100% people leaving Indy have to get back somehow. I doubt there are many once a day flights with a 10% load differential on outbound and inbound, let alone a 50%. If I were hoping for anything, it would be that the 100% continues, because this route will surely be more dependen...

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by ncflyer
Wed May 30, 2018 5:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

DCA-CLE seems completely random to me. I don't think loads are anything fantastic with the existing players on the route. Plus over the years WN has reduced frequencies CLE to BWI, so it doesn't appear to be an ace in the hole route for them.

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by ncflyer
Wed May 30, 2018 3:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 953
Views: 78958

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Does anyone know if CLE FIS has global entry?

Anyone out there have early reads on how Icelandair and WOW are doing? 100% anecdotal on my part but I'm noting in July WOW fares from Cleveland are substantially higher than PIT fares. Whether that's because planes are full-- who the heck knows.

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