Really good stuff. One thing I've never understood is why out of Boston, BUF and PIT are two of the more frequently serviced cities, with 5 and 6 flights respectively. Why is this so much more than say CLE and DTW with 3 flights? None of the routes are B6 monopolies. Seeing the loads on BUF and PIT-...Jump to post
Gotcha MidwestIndy, my bad. So, someone posted a rumor that UA is flying more to CLE than they otherwise would due to the MX facility. It’s a rumor so who knows if it’s really true but I really wonder how these flights do from a profitability standpoint given that they compete against Spirit, Fronti...Jump to post
Thank you I like the train solution that is very creative, I imagine it will only be improved if/when a new terminal is built. I think what you're saying Runway28L is international passengers who do check their luggage claim it in concourse C and then have bring it with them on the secured train? Th...Jump to post
Can someone here tell me--- for international arrivals in PIT, do passengers have to re-enter the secure airside area to get to final baggage claim, or does customs exit directly to the final baggage claim/ground transportation area? There is a lively discussion on this topic on the Cleveland forum....Jump to post
Jetpixx that would be so much more than a terminal A connector. Brand new FIS from scratch in a building that is currently shut down and not built for mainline aircraft? Making people walk outside in the elements? I don’t understand your proposal it seems worse than the other bad options.Jump to post
Someone else will have to answer Greenair's questions about which gates feed FIS but if I'm not mistaken it is 2 or 3 gates towards the end of A. Not the very end, but just about. I just wish a civic or business leader would get a new terminal on the civic agenda. I know it's not cheap, easy, or may...Jump to post
OK I read the article it is not specific enough to say whether the secure path is at ground level or not, but I could see the project being very complex, I'm sure whichever regulatory agency governs sterile immigration areas has very strict requirements, we don't know the half of them.Jump to post
Greenair, YYZ's USA regional jet concourse-- which is a bus station variant, might be a model for the challenge CLE faces. Glass walls separating a long corridor down the concourse, special revolving doors so that boarding can be segregated from passengers exiting to immigration (actually now that I...Jump to post
Fair enough rajincajun, your point is taken, I would never do it, but I tend to be more aware of connections and backups. However I will say this, a lot of the northern markets to RDU-- for instance my hometown of CLE (which could at least in theory provide a lot of feed to the southern markets)-- a...Jump to post
Not to turn this in to a Frontier thread, but who in their right mind would connect in a place like Raleigh. If you miss your flight from Buffalo to Montego Bay because of a snowstorm (assuming the banks work out for such a routing in the first place), it could be 3 days until the next flight. Not n...Jump to post
Oh well, mostly my fingers are crossed that they stick with year round service-- this will give them a leg up against WOW (at least based on what WOW has committed to on the schedule so far) and it will probably speak well to their bookings and yields-- or at the very least in their patience in deve...Jump to post
There's a terrific article on Crain's Cleveland this week about how stale Cleveland's business and political leadership is-- this according to CEO's anonymously interviewed for the article. The leaders of all major civiic organizations, as well as Jackson and Budish, are long entrenched and/or aging...Jump to post
Let us hope that NE Ohioans reward icelandair rather than choosing instead to get overrated UA mileage plus miles.
I’m finding that fares to London And Paris are a great bargain. Other European cities served by icelandair not as much. Who knows could be my dates.
No LH when UA had a hub, I don’t see why there’d be LH now… Frankly I don’t see the US 3 with unserved routes either, let alone LH. We are in unfortunate position of having a UA focus, as UA seems far less interested in nonhub routes than Delta especially. I’m frankly surprised LGA UA has held on so...Jump to post
On WN, I'm sure everyone noticed that another WN extension and another big nothing burger for CLE, in spite of all the wishful thinking on this board that WN would add HOU, DAL, SAN, OAK, and heck even a recent DCA. PIT meantime got a second flight to BNA (I'm surprised they had been lagging here) a...Jump to post
Give it time-- those 100% people leaving Indy have to get back somehow. I doubt there are many once a day flights with a 10% load differential on outbound and inbound, let alone a 50%. If I were hoping for anything, it would be that the 100% continues, because this route will surely be more dependen...Jump to post
Does anyone know if CLE FIS has global entry?
Anyone out there have early reads on how Icelandair and WOW are doing? 100% anecdotal on my part but I'm noting in July WOW fares from Cleveland are substantially higher than PIT fares. Whether that's because planes are full-- who the heck knows.
Terminal D, or at least it’s equivalent capacity, isn’t needed anymore. Yeah sure it’s the newest but it’s pushing 25 years old. An international terminal is and will always be overkill for cleveland. The footprint to have modern restrooms isn’t there. They are punier than movie theater bathrooms by...Jump to post
When oh when is a new terminal going to be part of the civic dialogue, rather than patchwork solutions to the many, many shortcomings of the airport, including but not limited to FIS. Heck even the Clowns, I mean the Browns ownership has floated the idea that they will need to replace the late 1990'...Jump to post
Agreed and not just the MCI forum has these dreams.
It can’t only be the cast that mCI to ??? Is a good market, it has to be better market than alternative uses for the airplane. That can be a high bar particularly for the us3 and their giant hubs.
Similar pattern for CLE and PIT. Having a hub is really a double edged sword. I've always thought of it that the users of an airport pay a tax, and a pretty big tax, so that there is nonstop service to Madison, Richmond, Knoxville, et al. To business people this tax is worthwhile, to every day trave...Jump to post
It really is remarkable how flat to declining airfares have been through the years, at least in the USA, not as familiar with other markets. Saying that, I do remember back when I went to business school, we learned about Southwest Airlines, we learned about People Express, etc. And then we all reme...Jump to post
I’m surprised the horrible state of Dulles doesn’t get discussed more here. At current traffic levels the bus station terminal concessions are overwhelmed during UA peaks as is the HVAC on warm days. Yet they’re planning to add more people? I take iAd to PEK sometimes, talk about being embarrassed a...Jump to post
For non hub airports I find RON needs are a big driver of gate needs, not absolute number of flights, as the 6-8 AM periods are typically busiest by far. If you’re not a hub the schedule is so heavily driven what times are convenient for hub and hub banks being served— in other words ORD/DEN/IAD/IAH...Jump to post
You know, Seatguru website has only one thing to do-- yet I find it's not always up to date. It doesn't have the 737 max in Icelandair yet, and it doesn't have a 290 seat configuration for Condor yet. That sure is a big jump up to 290, as others are saying. Can someone please tell me history of Cond...Jump to post
It is so great to have this flight in cleveland and I look forward to taking it when the need arises, but it sure takes wee bit of getting used to, seeing a 737 that crosses the Atlantic.
Disappointingly seatguru doesn’t have Icelandair 737 max seat config loaded yet.
Pitexpress I think F9 ads mean nothing or maybe even less than nothing, they are so fleeting and this one seems perhaps even more tenuous than many of the others. I’d be more excited about PIT upgage in frequency to EWR, that’s a sign of lasting demand to a major market and puts PIT ahead of the oth...Jump to post
I'm always the naysayer on WN at CLE but their actions for years have said it is a trivial market for them-- not sure why now would be any different, even apart from Hawaii. PIT and CMH have better service from WN. Adding the fifth gate in B and shutting down CAK (let alone the UA hub closure) reall...Jump to post
Not that it wasn’t abundantly clear already but F9 has too much capacity in search of a strategy. As a Clevelander I remember when it was our turn for such love, but so many of the flights are now long gone.Jump to post
Wow-- no curbside drop off for Ubers, limos, and taxis? I'm sure glad I'm not elderly but all of us will be eventually. And the offsite parking shuttles will cut their frequencies way down if they have a $4 a pop shuttle fee to pay, rather than a flat fee. . . . There just has to be a better way to ...Jump to post
Yeah on EWR, in fact I often look at UA seat maps on day of flight and the full size planes CLE to Newark, and they are often loaded < 50% (strictly anecdotal of course), no wonder the ERJ is appealing. . . I don't get why PIT would be different, the EWR fall schedule is currently loaded as 8 ERJ 17...Jump to post
Who knows if this will stick but starting in October IAD is showing 3 of 4 total mainlines per day. Guess this is the cleveland impact of the UA east coast adjustment. Also at that time PIT will have 50% more frequencies to Newark, 9 flights per day, haven’t looked closeluu but I believe the seat co...Jump to post
Why is it surprising that PIT and CLE went first? Both are bigger airports than Columbus. Size of airport doesn't really matter, doesn't matter much when it comes to which airports get which routes. Based on history CLE is more of a UA city, PIT is more of an AA city, and CMH is more of a DL city i...Jump to post
Why is it surprising that PIT and CLE went first? Both are bigger airports than Columbus.Jump to post
I've started to book up some dummy one week long trips, comparing DL fares from PIT, RDU, IND, DTW, nice assortment of focus cities, focus city wannabes, monopoly hubs. For good measure I've thrown in my hometown CLE to compare a one stop market in roughly the same geography. I really ought to throw...Jump to post
FlyPIT now I’m looking jul 3-jul 11. Just as inexpensive as I stated earlier. Playing around with dates, midweek tends to be that cheap even in June whereas a few weekend dates I tested were in the $1700 ballpark. Quite a gap. Wish I knew how to do this systematically rather than slog through it. Fo...Jump to post
Another form of international leakage that I hope can be greatly reduced is buying a separate ticket to get to a more competitive international airport such as ORD or IAD. I've done it myself I could buy CLE to IAD and then IAD to CDG, for $500 cheaper than CLE CDG tickets. All on United. I hated be...Jump to post
Looking in to a flight to CDG this summer I live in CLE but will drive for nonstop. It is interesting that PIT is a dirt cheap nonstop for my dates, around $950. I checked other DL markets out of curiosity. DTW BOS RDU in $1500 range. IND is closest at $1100. CVG is $1300 as is YYZ. I’d attribute th...Jump to post
Not that I'm a media junkie but I'm not seeing much local advertising for either WOW or Icelandair. I do have an Icelandair cookie floating ads on my web browsing but that may be because I've been playing around with some potential trips on their website. . . I do read PD from cover to cover, no adv...Jump to post
StI see today’s NEw York Times for review of Cleveland Orchestra— if that’s not a critic
saying it’s the best orchestra in the world I don’t know what is. So an orchestra groupie. Then R and R hall of fame might be a draw to some. Granted neither one is the Statue of Liberty or Disney world…