From my understanding, UA can continue to operate it's full schedule even with SAT 2 not done, as long as SAT 1 is finished. I'm expecting some regional routes will get upgraded to mainline, and maybe some tighter regional banks to keep things moving, but SAT 1 will (I believe) deliver roughly the ...
Jump to postMajor, Major developments in the ORD 21 saga: https://www.chicagobusiness.com/greg-hinz-politics/ohare-expansion-deal-could-shrink-under-johnson-greg-hinz-column Key takeaways: - Construction on Sat 1 to begin this year - UAL wants a bigger Sat 1, wants Sat 2 paused - OGT moving ahead Seems like Jo...
Jump to postAlso - Google Earth Pro has updated their satellite imagery as of 3/2/2024: - You can see a plane parked at one of the two new stinger gates - The West half of the new T5 parking ramp looks topped out with the East half partially up - The new temporary C gates at the South end look complete and rea...
Jump to postWith UAL set to have their biggest summer *ever* at ORD, with AA increasing frequency, continued growth at MDW -- I'm certain 2024 will have over 100m passengers traversing CDA. Top 4 this year again -- 1. ATL 2. DFW 3. DEN 4. ORD I'd expect to see ORD eclipse DEN this year again. Is ORD for UA goi...
Jump to postemcm541 wrote:The ole number 9 is reporting ground stop at ORD due to weather
Chirahkord wrote:Just watched a 777-200er takeoff from 22L which was a first for me (UA1957). Had no idea that size aircraft could use that runway and speculate it has to be using the whole pavement!
Does anyone know when the CRJ-900s are due to exit the express fleet? I’m tired of having to fly on them and long for the return of the E175 or mainline on my weekly ELP-DEN run. They will likely be around through 2024, but the DEN CR9 base looks to be ending by June. In fact ELP-DEN goes to the E1...
Jump to postDoes anyone know when the CRJ-900s are due to exit the express fleet? I’m tired of having to fly on them and long for the return of the E175 or mainline on my weekly ELP-DEN run.
Jump to postExpect some phenomenal news in the next week(s) or so regarding OGT. Biden Admin, the airlines, Mayor's office, and the state have basically hashed out their issues re: funding and the project will basically proceed as originally planned, with minor tweaks to the Gang terminal. That's great to hear...
Jump to postIf this hub stuff is true, the real question is what current hub(s) will fund this new hub? DEN’s growth is already at the detriment of both ORD and IAH. United did grow their employee workforce considerably last year, so maybe there is some truth to this rumour.
Jump to postService Update for UA - https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/240103-uans24ord ORD-SEA to have 1 daily flight (UA2289 & UA 747) upgauged to 753 for period of May 23, 2024 to September 25, 2024 Does this mean the redeye has the most comfortable seat on the route? That could actually make the redeye wor...
Jump to postAlso - After looking at the latest runway map, it would appear work will begin on the further out satellite first..... That area is almost completely cleared out now, with just a few remaining "X" components that are probably being demolished. I wonder if the construction of the new satel...
Jump to postWas at ORD last night and there appears to be the world's longest jetway installed on the west side of Concourse C. Lots of construction around the C concourse and west of it. Glad to see the new terminals starting to take hold. The winds of change are in full force. Long time Twys A/B no longer lo...
Jump to postService Updates AA - https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/231224-aans24inc ORD-ATH seasonal service now resumes May 6, 2024 on 789, 7x ORD-DUB seasonal service now resumes June 5, 2024 on 788, upguages to 789 starting August 5, 2024, 7x ORD-VCE seasonal service commences June 5. 2024 on 789, 7x ET - http...
Jump to postO’Hare Airport’s two largest carriers want to slow down, dramatically scale back or indefinitely ground the airport’s massive expansion project, including a global terminal and two satellite concourses now $1.5 billion over budget. https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2023/11/28/23979601/ohare-ex...
Jump to postOne thing that has to be mentioned, however, is that EWR is the most expensive airport to operate out of in UA's network. CPE by airport: EWR: 29.24 ORD: 26.58 LAX: 25.23 SFO: 21.24 IAD: 17.69 DEN: 10.48 IAH: 10.47 If there are destinations served at EWR where O&D is not a big factor, UA would ...
Jump to postCHI787ORD wrote:jcwr56 wrote:Rumblings one or both previous Chinese carriers will receive traffic rights to resume mainline services due to the increase number of permitted flights effective November 9th.
Would be nice to have PVG and PEK back as nonstop destinations
I'm a little perplexed by this. In Europe, when the economy is struggling, it's the LCC's that tend to continue to do well and the legacy airlines struggle. This is normally because those who would normally fly on the legacy airlines cut there cloth and fly on LCC's, and those who fly on LCC's fly ...
Jump to postIt seems like the first satellite is underway, albeit ground work. Many cranes operating over by T1. Is the first satellite to be built prior to the addition to concourse C? I can't recall the order of operations for the buildout of the new concourses. Also on that subject, has there been any menti...
Jump to postemcm541 wrote:Service Update for AA - https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230820-aans24lh
- ORD-DUB seasonal service has been axed
What a neat thread. Didn’t see it mentioned but ORD should have built bypass taxiways from the far north/south runways around the center/inner runways on the east and west ends of the field. This would have cut down taxi times and allowed for much greater operational flexibility wrt to runway usage,...
Jump to postWhy does everyone keep saying UA is gate constrained? They had 150 more daily flights pre-COVID. They have the ability to add flights to existing departure banks and add entirely new departure banks. If United's growth at ORD is constrained by anything it is staffing and aircraft, not gates. They a...
Jump to postAA should just let UA dominate ORD and focus on MIA/DFW/CLT, it’s a win win for both airlines! I agree. AA should put its ORD hub out of its misery (though I realize that’ll never happen), and consolidate around hubs where it can provide competent service. Stretching resources too thin around too m...
Jump to postNot sure if this topic has been discussed before but does anyone know why the city opted to not have United and American or other airlines help pay for part of the ORD’21 Plan? As I understand it, they took out bonds backed by passenger facility charges to pay for this program. If that’s true, isn’t...
Jump to postOne would think so. They don't use 27L or 28L at all. Neither appear to be NOTAM closed so there has to be a reason. In east flow they depart 9C from FF while 9R sits unused and a constant stream of 9L arrivals have a marathon taxi halfway to Gary, crossing 9C and 9R at the approach end. They do us...
Jump to postNot to continue to beat this topic, but I think it going to be hard for ORD to fully recover when AA's network strategy has shifted away from ORD in favor of DFW and CLT. United can't do it all without sacrificing other hubs in their network and looking at United's S23 scheduled ORD, DEN, EWR, and ...
Jump to postA lot of things to comment on. But I’ve covered the essence of it already in the my previous posts. As discussed in the UA thread as well, UA has cut a lot of destinations as well and ceded them to AA post covid at ORD; and thanks to the loss of the Air Wisconsin deal, reduced frequencies on many e...
Jump to postA question for the group. Picked my brother-in-law up from ORD last night on a Southwest flight. Said this was the fourth time in a past few months where his WN flight landed on time or early but had to wait 30+ mins for a gate at T5. Wasn't sure if this was an issue with T5 as whole due to still f...
Jump to postFlew in and out of T-5 this week. The new expansion unfortunately looks like a total missed opportunity. Love the natural light and wider concourses but outside of that, what happened? This is what the new expansion was supposed to look like... https://www.powerconstruction.net/sites/default/files/...
Jump to postThe FJ role, as dictated by the Fijian Govt., is to promote tourism to Fiji. AU/NZ connecting traffic to North America is secondary, so I doubt any new route would be launched with transit traffic as a main objective. I wouldn’t be so sure using my 1 flight as an example. Came in on FJ811 from LAX ...
Jump to postDoes anyone know the lifecycle of the 787? Can it fly for as many years as a 767/777? This order is mind boggling for a widebody order, and I’m wondering if it’s so huge because the 787 wasn’t meant to go the full 25-30 year gauntlet like its predecessors.
Jump to postAccording to FR24, the Green Bay Packers took a DL 757-200 and a DL 737-900er to and from MDW. I was not aware that the 737-900er could work at MDW? Weight restrictions? There were some DL charter flights by Atlanta United FC over the summer using the 737-900ER at MDW. I am genuinely surprised by t...
Jump to postFor those that might have missed this yesterday. DL838 A333 diverted to ORD and parked on M11. This gives DL another option for any diversions either domestic or internationally they didn't have before on the E gates. https://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL838/history/20221129/1733Z/KATL/KORD That’...
Jump to postWith all the discussion of the upcoming network changes for March, I think folks should note that UAL has 179 new mainline aircraft arriving between today and the end of 2023 ( source ). And with additional hundreds arriving in the years following. UAL's network is about to experience some radical ...
Jump to post5884803 One of the most obvious changes to the Delta schedule at O’Hare since moving into T-5 is their 757’s - they’ve become commonplace - something you would never say of Delta in T-2. In fact the 752 has become DL's go-to in their ORD/ATL schedule. Next Sunday sees 7 nonstops with 3 flights oper...
Jump to postWith the new ORD runway configs, when is 27L/9R used for anything? It seems like 9C for departures and 27C for landing depending on traffic flow. One-time last winter I as at ORD flying out and witnessed 27L being used for departures but that's the only time I've seen it used. 9R I have not seen us...
Jump to postORD is running arrivals on 10C, 9C and 9L, with departures on 9R and….. 22L. Kind of weird. Rwy 10L/28R was closed all weekend due to maintenance. On west flow we were landing Rwy 28C, 27C, 27R departing Rwy 27L and 22L. One East flow we landed 9L, 9C and 10C departing Rwy 22L and 9R. We can do man...
Jump to postWith United upgauging a lot of routes and axing other 50 seat routes, I doubt ORD comes close to 2019 ops levels for the next few years or at least until the UA express satellite (S1?) concourse is done. If I'm not mistaken, the "express jet" satellite is Satellite 2, not #1, and I have m...
Jump to postWith all the route additions/restarts, will 2023 be a fully “back to normal” year after COVID? With all the new gates, will ORD be able to challenge ATL in terms of passengers or ops? Maybe operations. Pre-covid ATL had a 20 million passenger lead. I don't think ORD could even theoretically handle ...
Jump to postToday’s the big move to T5 for DL. Anyone know what the story is behind 27L being closed? Is it for construction? According to ORD NOTAM, it’s due to open on 10/15 with a host of other taxiways that are also closed. Is that on schedule?
Jump to postI’d wager a week’s pay it was the pilots. If anyone has ever been on guard 121.5, this is the same garbage you hear in addition to cat meows, and political statements.
Jump to postPer OAG -- ORD is the world's most internationally connected airport. Good for Chicago and ORD. Things will only get better as the expansions come online and capacity skyrockets. Here's a link so others don't have to try and find if this was legit or not like I did... https://www.oag.com/megahub-ai...
Jump to postBe interesting to see what ORD’s numbers look like as the CRJ-200s and E-145s go the way of the dodo. I’d imagine we will see our #1/#2 traffic movements status fall. Hope I’m wrong.
Jump to postNot surprising, I always thought the price and timeline were too aggressive but the main issue is Mayor Lightweight is in over her head. Chicago is lucky, Rahm and Daley had a vision for the airport and got the runways moved. Lightweight is just riding their coattails and not executing on the plan....
Jump to postWith NK and B6 merging, what is everyone’s thoughts for their operation at ORD? B6 has generally struggled to make ORD work for them while NK turned it into a fairly successful operation. If I recall, wasn’t ORD in NK’s top 5 busiest/biggest stations? If B6 sticks with their current business model, ...
Jump to postI doubt it, YYZ is a important airport for WS and the YYZ-ORD market is very big. They may add YYC-ORD but YYZ is staying for the European connections. Westjet apparently leaving in October too due to their shift to Western Canada. ORD-YYZ on WS has only the highest fares available for booking afte...
Jump to postWas N772UA written off or did they find a way to repair it. Didn’t it have a hull breach from the engine letting go?
Jump to postBesides the LinkedIn post, are there any renderings for the finalized T5? I heard there will be a public observation deck. It’d be a true shame to have that accessible only via a club room.
Jump to postLooks like a meaningful step up in UA mainline through ORD in September Same with IAH and SFO. This is no doubt due to the large number of Max aircraft coming in in Q2/3. Ive noticed that, particularly at IAH, there is a huge step up in Max aircraft in the schedule. On a positive note, ONT/SJC/SMF-...
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