DL does use these 10 333s on their longest 333 routes. I believe the usual set of routes over the winter has been JFK-TLV, LAX-HND, JFK-LAX (to bridge back and forth), etc. In the summer 2019 schedule, I think the following routes will be operated by the 242T 333s: LAX-AMS MSP-AMS x1 JFK-LAX JFK-CDG...
Jump to postIt only faced competition from 3x/w LEVEL ORY-EWR service. It was actually annouced right after Level anounced their own service. They moved one of their Scandinavian flights from ORY to free up a slot for this. I think the only point of this flight was to scare Level away. That's a fail (tho from ...
Jump to postDoes the A339 have the legs to fly SEA-HKG? If its operating costs are much lower and it is not payload restricted like the A332, maybe DL can make it work. But I'm not banking on them bringing it back anytime soon. I believe the 339s will have similar range to the 332s. So probably no better for t...
Jump to postI think you are forgetting about DEN-FRA which starts this year in addition to these seasonal returns DEN-LHR and SFO-ZRH. Although these routes will be on 788's those 788's are being pulled from routes that will most likely be upguaged to a 789 from spring through fall also do forget about the sea...
Jump to postAlso with the LAX reduction we now know where the 789 for SFO-AMS is coming from especially since UA isn't slated to take delivery of any more 789s till 2020. However since SFO-AMS is year around UA will still need to find a 789 to operate this route come October when both LAX and IAH-SYD resume da...
Jump to postHere is my prediction for the slot allocation assuming that DL gets 5, AA gets 3, UA gets 3, HA gets 1, and NH and JL somehow split 7 to 5 or 6 to 6. UA: EWR-HND SFO-HND 2nd daily IAH/IAD-HND AA: DFW-HND LAX-HND(2nd daily) ORD-HND DL: DTW-HND ATL-HND PDX-HND SEA-HND BOS/JFK-HND or LAX-HND(2nd daily...
Jump to postEWR is a very large United fortress hub with lots and lots of feed for the flight. I'd be willing to bet that UA's EWR-HKG flight survives on mostly O&D, with relatively few connections. Most connecting traffic from the Eastern U.S. to HKG is better flowed over UA's ORD-HKG flight. Also, DL's J...
Jump to postWhy would that make any difference? Why can UA make EWR-HKG work any more than someone could make JFK-HKG work? EWR is a very large United fortress hub with lots and lots of feed for the flight. I'd be willing to bet that UA's EWR-HKG flight survives on mostly O&D, with relatively few connectio...
Jump to postBecause they're trying to be a major player in NYC. NYC-TYO is a pretty important route for business traffic, and DL may well have corporate clients in NYC who are asking for this service. It's not competitive for DL to connect passengers on NYC-TYO via ICN. Given both Japanese airlines were able t...
Jump to postI think DL will apply for at least 6: the obvious SEA, DTW, and ATL, plus PDX, JFK, and probably HNL. I don't think they'll apply for BOS, but I could be wrong there. I agree with others that they'll likely try to use this opportunity to completely exit NRT I’m puzzled as to why you believe DL will...
Jump to postOzarkD9S wrote:slcdeltarumd11 wrote:
This has happened to other cities as well, nothing really bad here.
See ABQ and SLC. Former WN connecting points, now....not so much.
sorry, i dont completely understand. As i Read this, AA is completely cancelling all jfk-mco flights? am i misreading this? That is correct. AA will stop flying JFK-MCO. well, as an aadvantage member living in orlando that is bad news lol. do you happen to know when they will stop? Unless your fina...
Jump to postAlso with the LAX reduction we now know where the 789 for SFO-AMS is coming from especially since UA isn't slated to take delivery of any more 789s till 2020. However since SFO-AMS is year around UA will still need to find a 789 to operate this route come October when both LAX and IAH-SYD resume da...
Jump to postI am not sure NH & JL will be able to fill out all 12 of their slot pairs from 2020. Moving any of the trans-pacific flights from NRT to HND will decrease their connecting traffic to their Asian flights unless there is duplication on destination like LAX. For example, if UA were to move their I...
Jump to postHA could apply for an additional frequency to allow their existing 2nd HNL flight and their KOA flight to both go daily (although these flights might be outside this whole process, since I believe they're nighttime slots...). I'm not sure if HA would want to move their daily NRT flight to HND - it ...
Jump to postTo balance this out, DoT most likely will seek to overweight DL and HA, followed by AA and UA last. Something like HA(+1), DL(+6), AA(+3), UA(+2) would do best to maximise public interest. This leads to A*(13), OW(11), DL(8) and HA(2), involving DL(8), AA(4) and UA(3). I like that split. It could e...
Jump to postI think DL will apply for at least 6: the obvious SEA, DTW, and ATL, plus PDX, JFK, and probably HNL. I don't think they'll apply for BOS, but I could be wrong there. I agree with others that they'll likely try to use this opportunity to completely exit NRT, and possibly to exit HNL-Japan flying as ...
Jump to postThe press release mentions part of their plan is "an optimised route portfolio". Good! It seems they finally recognize they expanded too fast. In their transatlantic network, I wonder if they'll cut back on the number of gateways on either side of the Atlantic, or if they'll just trim rout...
Jump to postAA would need to submit a new route application if they want to move either ORD-PEK or ORD-PVG to another U.S.-China route, correct? Hence their comment in the DL HND-gateway-moving application about how they agree, given the same freedom is applied to China authorities? If that wasn't the case, I w...
Jump to postAbout time AA and BA unified at JFK! Now JL just needs to get out of the T1 group and jump onboard.
Jump to postDOT has granted American's 90-dormancy waiver for services between Chicago and Beijing and Shanghai, China until June 28, 2019. DOT also deferred action on DL and UA request to utilize the slots themselves with alternative services in 2020. DOT, however, did suggest the airlines update their propos...
Jump to postDOT did not approve the proposed alternative MSP-PVG service as proposed by DL and instead opted to grant AA its request for dormancy waiver for ORD-PEK & PVG services. DOT did leave the door open that it would reconsider alternative route proposals should AA not resume the service and if such ...
Jump to postThat means there's probably a healthy chance that EWR-PVG will be upgauged to the 77W once UA receives the 4 frames they recently ordered.
Jump to postLAXintl wrote:Also the first route of high premium config 767-300ER will be EWR-LHR.
YYZORD wrote:So is AA ending JFK-MCO cause I still see no announcement from AA or anywhere on the internet about it.
Is AA really pulling JFK MCO or is that an error? My god if they are! They are in serious trouble in NYC. Totally irrelevant It's still showing as 2x daily in June and on, so not sure if it's just a shoulder season cut or what... There are a few routes that show up differently in this thread than w...
Jump to postbut ATL makes more sense because then the 77L would have to be on a domestic hop to JFK. not necessarily a domestic hop. could be a W pattern with AMS for example. Could JFK-AMS handle the capacity? Because right now I think its a 763ER and a 764ER. But it could potentially work. JFK-AMS could hand...
Jump to postGeminijets101 wrote:I can’t find much info on the internet.
DylanHarvey wrote:The BOM flight is 85% gonna be from ATL, and it will be a 77L.
I doubt JFK is on DL’s radar, and most certainly not before incumbent services are moved to HND. I'd bet that JFK-Asia is definitely on DL's radar, regardless of whether they decide it makes financial sense for them to be in that market at this time. But with DL trying to be the #1 airline in New Y...
Jump to postAs of summer 2019, all 13 359s that DL will have on property are spoken for on these routes: SEA-NRT LAX-HND LAX-PVG DTW-AMS DTW-NRT DTW-ICN DTW-PEK DTW-PVG ATL-ICN I do expect SEA-NRT (and maybe LAX-HND) to move to the 339 once there are some of those in operation, so there should be anywhere from ...
Jump to postDoes anyone know if BDL-SFO is coming back seasonally this year? It has been run for a couple years seasonally however picking random dates in June/July I see no non stop flights. Based on my own searching on united.com a few weeks ago, it appears it's not coming back. Instead, IAH-BDL will continu...
Jump to postWhy is 11 pm departure considered horrible, it is a good time. After a day's work, the traveller can relax before catching the late flight. Also traffic will be lighter at the time of checkin around 9 pm. Yeah, someone needs to tell these airlines that their flights are at "horrible" time...
Jump to postLAX 9:50 RAP 13:44, RAP 14:20 LAX 16:29 SFO 9:15 RAP 13:08, RAP 13:45 SFO 15:55 Are these going to be same-plane turns? 36 and 37 minutes seems a bit aggressive... I think ~35 mins is pretty standard for an E175 turn. :checkmark: Yep, 35 minutes is standard for UA. AA does some 30 minute turns with...
Jump to postOne thing I'd like to point out is that the article from the OP never specifically mentions that the route will be IAH-LFW-ADD... The exact schedule details aren't known yet, and all the article mentions is that 1) IAH is replacing LAX as a U.S. gateway, and 2) the IAH flight "will operate thre...
Jump to postOther than the Black Hills and Mt.Rushmore what makes the Rapid City area such an attraction that flights to LAX, SFO and EWR are being started? I visited Rapid City and Mt. Rushmore a few years and really there is not much there. There are two nearby national parks (Badlands and Wind Cave) as well...
Jump to postWhy not take those 6 and put them back to their original purpose? Back in the 80's and 90's, airlines thought it made sense to have widebodies in the US. Slap some domestic F seats up front and toss those back on DEN-ORD, etc. like the old DC-10's. In the 80's airlines were small, so made the most ...
Jump to post3227 should RTS today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N327NW. A320 mods complete That completes the narrowbody AVOD refits, correct!? From now on if your flight is on a 319/320/321/738/739/752/753 (or any type of widebody), you are guaranteed seatback screens. Pretty awesome! I'm glad DL decide...
Jump to post3227 should RTS today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N327NW. A320 mods complete That completes the narrowbody AVOD refits, correct!? From now on if your flight is on a 319/320/321/738/739/752/753 (or any type of widebody), you are guaranteed seatback screens. Pretty awesome! I'm glad DL decide...
Jump to postI could see EK moving their existing DXB-MXP-JFK to DXB-HAM-JFK, and flying it on the 77W rather than the 388. That, I think, would be somewhat viable. JFK-MXP has 5 carriers on it right now (with additional indirect competition from UA at EWR) and EK can't be doing all that well with their late ni...
Jump to postkcrwflyer wrote:A DFW flight would have to use an E75 / CR7 off CRW's runway, which automatically gives you more seats than you really need.
I could see EK moving their existing DXB-MXP-JFK to DXB-HAM-JFK, and flying it on the 77W rather than the 388. That, I think, would be somewhat viable. JFK-MXP has 5 carriers on it right now (with additional indirect competition from UA at EWR) and EK can't be doing all that well with their late nig...
Jump to postCan anyone in here see DFW-ISP? or are we just containing ISP to the eastern seaboard with the potential for CLT or Brining back DCA I'd be surprised. I'd expect routes such as DFW-PVD, CLT-ISP, or even MIA-ISP to be higher up the pecking order than DFW-ISP. Unless the area around ISP has a very la...
Jump to postDoes this mean no more Eagle in BOS? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that happen soon. All that's left is BOS-MDT, BOS-ROC, and BOS-SYR (and a few flights on BOS-JFK). B6 competes on BOS-SYR, but AA has MDT and ROC to themselves. With the recent withdrawal of PIT-RDU, I believe these are the ...
Jump to postDoes this mean no more Eagle in BOS? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that happen soon. All that's left is BOS-MDT, BOS-ROC, and BOS-SYR (and a few flights on BOS-JFK). B6 competes on BOS-SYR, but AA has MDT and ROC to themselves. With the recent withdrawal of PIT-RDU, I believe these are the ...
Jump to postBig Move in Boston today, AA is consolidating all there operations in Terminal B. They will fly all mainline flights out of gates B4-B22. Also opening a new Admirals club as well. Does this mean no more Eagle in BOS? I wouldn't be at all surprised to see that happen soon. All that's left is BOS-MDT...
Jump to post-The last three cities that exist from IAH and not DFW are CAK,TOL, and CRW..and that won't be the case for long Vasu's not quite right on this. CAK and CRW, sure, but AA's the only one of the US3 that flies to TOL... Also, UA flies IAH-HOB, which is a market AA isn't in at all (though ROW isn't to...
Jump to postKinda feel like F9 is gonna snatch up those slots and pull out the dartboard for the new routes. Then pull out a year later after they all fail. Ha! Yeah, it wouldn't be too far out of the realm of reality for F9 to announce the likes of ELP-MEX, OKC-MEX, CVG-MEX, RSW-MEX, RDU-MEX, and ISP-MEX, eac...
Jump to postWell and I don’t know about anyone else but I still can’t get in my head that WN is an international option. Their branding and sort of in-house approach to things inhibits their international branding afaic. For sure. I literally just had a conversation with my brother-in-law (who lives in Califor...
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