There's similar thinking with fines, in Finland most fines are based on your taxable income, you can be fined tens of thousands for speeding. The fine doesn't work if you don't feel the sting. I'd like to see that here. We only have "Tagessatz" fines dependent on income if you have a conv...Jump to post
first hurdle: you don't care. When you boil it down you're probably right. Its not that I (and most people) don't care at all its that its not high on the list of priorities for most people. We do know there are issues with prisons in the USA but there are just more pressing things I (and most) peo...Jump to post
Bearing in mind too that AY and QF have an extensive and long-standing relation for trips via Asia - HEL is in fact a specific exclusion from the QF-EK JV. It's not an exclusion, it just doesn't fall within the scope of the JV because EK doesn't fly to HEL. It seems that QF is free to do what they ...Jump to post
My non Finnish colleague in Helsinki saw a story about the open prisons in Finland on France24 and that left him rather puzzled. We had an interesting discussion, actually many native Finns at work didn't quite know how the prison system works in the country. In Finland a large part of the low-risk ...Jump to post
I was a little bit surprised about that also. HEL has some tourism, but nothing that's that big. Finnair also has that advantage of the connecting hub. A large part of the Asian tourists arriving in HEL (in winter) continue to Lapland, there have been a real boom of tourism up there, especially fro...Jump to post
Really incredible how smart the AY strategy is and how well it has worked for them. Instead of trying to be everyone else (including larger and more established players) AY has built an empire by offering something that no one else was focused on. Yeah Asia was a wise move, they have all the eggs i...Jump to post
ilari wrote:Blah, I just added this in the Nordic Aviation thread and asked if they would want to double PEK. Should read first and then write.
Congrats AY for the 7th destination in China (HKG included) and the 19th in Asia. So they would prefer twice daily service to Pudong and NKG is kind of plan B?Jump to post
Finnair would be ready to start HEL-PUS (Busan) but the South-Korean government want them to co operate with the local airlines Korean Air/Asiana. Finnair says "partnering with them has not been very easy". They also would like to add flights to Seoul, served now 7x weekly, the route was o...Jump to post
finavia decided to give RVN IVL e KTT an upgrade from 55 mln euros... not bad, i guess one day chines will fly direct there as well. The airports in Finnish Lapland had 23% growth last year, more capacity truly needed, Santa has been busy! Little trivia: In 2017 there were traffic from 21 airports ...Jump to post
Norwegian would be very welcome on the HEL-Thailand routes, not sure if there are any Siberian overflight issues. Well if we take that literally: no, there are no Siberian overflight issues as the route wouldn’t cross over Siberia. ;) But as DY doesn’t even use Russian airspace on their flights to ...Jump to post
Not surprised about Paphos. The area is home to some 2.000 retired Finns. Finnair has been flying there for years and in the past they used to operate scheduled flights throughout the year on the B752 I visited Paphos last year, on the AY flight there were a large group of Finnish UN Peacekeeping v...Jump to post
If you don't mind me asking, what went wrong with your Qatar flight? The B777 on DOH-BKK felt cramped, not much shoulder room, disappointing catering. Yes have noticed those cheap prices to Chongqing from AY, upgrades available often too. CKG hardly is any gold mine to AY but the route probably is ...Jump to post
I have a question for those who have travelled on Finnair in the past. I need to go for work to Chongqing and only airlines to offer one stop flights from my airport are Finnair and Qatar. What's AY's long-haul product like? I see they are sending the A333 there. Flying in J? I have flown both airl...Jump to post
Destinations in Europe will have a 'similar DNA' to Helsinki. I wonder what Flydubai means by the similar DNA to Helsinki . HEL is kind of an oddball in Europe, a middle sized hub relying heavily on Asia. Suspect they mean: Unserved by EK or FZ from DXB Mid-sized Are there any left in the same size...Jump to post
xwb777 wrote:Destinations in Europe will have a 'similar DNA' to Helsinki.
lightsaber wrote:Is this confirmed MAX? IMHO the route is too long for good economics with the 738.
Nice. Hopefully EK will start taking more advantage of the codeshare agreement with FZ to help compete against QR. See the point, but if you had the choice at similar prices for an economy flight (just for arguments sake) , what would you rather fly, FZ or QR? I know where my money would be going ,...Jump to post
AY will will recruit and train 200+ new cabin crew members, based in HEL: https://rekry.saima.fi/smarthome/open_job_view.html?did=21018&lang=en&jc=79&id=00009856 Fluency in English is required, fluency in Finnish is highly valued, and other language skills are considered an asset Since 2...Jump to post
Haven't checked the schedules, but SYD-PER-LHR is some 400 nm longer than for example SYD-HKG-LHR (which quite conveniently lies almost exactly on the great circle route between SYD and LHR). I am sure airport congestion and winds aloft also play a role... QF should do a SYD-HEL to create a non sto...Jump to post
Is this the first A350 service to ORD? Taking this flight in September and looking forward to it? Did Finnair bring in the 350 last year, or am I mistaken? Finnair has not sent the A350 into ORD at all. I believe JFK was the only NA destination last year. They have sent A350 to JFK once. Their only...Jump to post
Haha. I like the vodka argument - though it's likelier to work with Ireland or Finland. Russians aren't the biggest drinkers on the continent anymore :))) Actually Russia still beats Ireland, Finland and many other happy drinkers in Europe. Vodka, beer or wine, everything goes ;) Total alcohol cons...Jump to post
Widerøe in Norway still operates certain thru-flights like that, especially in the north. Also in Norway, in 2012 I flew BGO-ARN-HEL on Finnair where ARN was just a stop, and I didn't deplane. I'm pretty sure that BGO-HEL is now non-stop. Finnair still operates thru-flights to BGO via ARN, their pa...Jump to post
There has been some flights to PJA (Pajala) in northern Sweden for british tourists, but I'm not sure if they have been a success or not. And Easyjet have been flying to OSD this winter. I think the demand to northern Finland has in a large part been driven by mostly british tour operators organizi...Jump to post
With much discussion going on about the seat width of 777/787/A330, it made me wonder how wide Finnair's MD-11 seats were in Economy. They had a tight 3-4-3 configuration which was tight for a legacy airline. Going even further back, Cathay Pacific had 3-4-3 Economy Class in the L1011 Tristar. How ...Jump to post
devron wrote:68498000 Person per year EU-USA
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anrec80 wrote:It's only a few Western countries and some dudes within those really. Finland has more than 1000km common border with Russia, and no issues there somehow.
Helsinki - Bangkok: Thai Airways is a very strong and consolidated airline in Scandinavia with daily flights to Oslo, Stockholm and Copenhagen. But they have no service to Helsinki, and in recent years Finnair has considerably increased its operations to Thailand including destinations such as Phuk...Jump to post
Could Finnair do something really unexpected and look seriously at the SSJ ? Note - I am aware that this would surprise everyone but just wondering if this has been ruled out yet As we are not living in the 1970's or the 80's anymore I'd give a snowball better odds at a very warm place than AY buyi...Jump to post
Got curious how the " Royal Finnish Crown" looked like on SAS aircraft ;) Actually they were not totally lost, the replica of the royal crown does exist in Finland this day. After becoming independent Finland had a king chosen in 1918, the Prince of Hessen from Germany. But the history too...Jump to post
Don’t get me wrong, I really like visiting but I could never imagine living there and I don’t see how the average American has more opportunity. To me it seems the opposite is true. :checkmark: There's no perfect system but it seems the "American Dream" is easier to achieve in the Norther...Jump to post
I don't know about Europe but here in the USA the overwhelming majority of men are circumcised Traditionally unusual in the Nordic countries. In Finland the health authorities say no need to circumcise boys for non-medical reasons, thus circumcisions are not covered by publicly funded health care.Jump to post
TUI Nordic start direct 787 services from Finnish OUL and VAA to Phuket/Krabi in Thailand next winter. VAA with 300K passengers (2017) probably is one of the smallest airports handling 787.
In Finnish: http://www.lentoposti.fi/uutiset/tui_li ... irkkalasta
The Finnish and Swedish Olympic ice hockey teams flew together on AY A350 to Seoul, in all peace and harmony, both Finnish and Swedish players traveled in Economy
Finnair is one good option for Spain-Asia travelers...Finnair has a fairly acceptable Asia network. Besides of many Finish traveling to Spain for holidays too. Yes Finnair's MAD (especially) and BCN services are built to feed their Asia network, the other Spanish routes mainly serve Finnish holiday...Jump to post
Scandinavians prefer coastal Spain not MAD so much! SAS is serving Barcelona, Alicante, Malaga, Palma and Las Palmas big style from many Scandinavian cities. Looks like Finnair is more active in Spain: Madrid, Barcelona, Alicante, Malaga, Ibiza, Palma, Menorca, Las Palmas, Lanzarote, Fuerteventura,...Jump to post
I always thought a route from HEL to HNL is a completely unexploited opportunity for Finnair. Directly over the North Pole, it's actually less than 6000nm! The impact of Jetstream would be almost non-existent, you could do this with a fully crammed A350 in 12 hours, give or take. Feeder traffic fro...Jump to post
We also don't get the same amount of vacation time here in the US that our European counterparts do. Four weeks is a pretty standard amount of vacation time for Europeans, no? That's what we *top out* at here in the US if we're *lucky*. Personally, I've been in my professional career now for more t...Jump to post
In addition to great geography, I’d also argue that Finnair has less LCC competition than OK. Hence, their European network is robust and can help support their long haul network. True, not much LCC competition, basically just Norwegian. They have a base in HEL with around 40 domestic and Euro rout...Jump to post