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Re: Why did Royal Jordanian choose to fly to Stansted over Gatwick?

Just wondered why Royal Jordanian chose to fly to Stansted as their new London airport, over Gatwick. I know Gatwick is busy but surely it has enough slots for a 4 x weekly service? Plus, it would have joined BA and a few other Oneworld airlines so I assume passengers would have been able to use th...

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Re: Why is LH so strong in Eastern Europe?

As mentioned by MIflyer12 geography might be a factor with LH having big hubs in FRA and MUC perfectly situated for connections from/to Eastern Europe. BEing the German airline also helps: Germany is the most populous country in the EU and an economic powerhouse. An additional factor in my understan...

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Re: BeNeLux Aviation - 2024

Dutch Parliament has voted to never open Lelystad (LEY) airport for commercial flights. https://nos.nl/artikel/2506867-kamer-wil-lelystad-airport-niet-meer-open-voor-commerciele-luchtvaart. What a waste of money. 200 million has been invested to make the airport ready for commercial use: a terminal ...

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Re: JetBlue Wants KLM Out of JFK Over Slot Dispute

As a Dutchman frequently traveling through AMS and flying KLM I’m very happy with this news, although I think damage has been done here. The Dutch government has proven itself to be an unreliable partner and I’m afraid companies will base their mid and long term plans on that. For example I think AF...

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Re: CZ launching Luxembourg passenger flights

This route was already announced in February 2023 during the 50th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic ties between their two countries. The route is part of the broader “Air Silk Road” plan. The "Air Silk Road" initiative was launched in 2014, by Henan Civil Aviation Development...

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Re: Rocket attacks into Israel-affects on airline operations

So what is the story about this bird? DQ-FJV (A332) operating as FJ2394 from Fiji Airways (!) departed TLV 19:39 LT Tuesday evening bound for HKG with onward service to NAN (Nadi, Fiji) tomorrow. How many citizens of Fiji are in the conflict region? More than 300 Fijians and members of the Fijian d...

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Re: AF/KLM to buy a stake in SAS - leave Star and join Skyteam

Noshow wrote:
Their stock went down 95 percent by value as of today.

Not surprising and not an indication on how this news is received as SAS stated that all of SAS AB’s common shares and listed commercial hybrid bonds are expected to be cancelled, redeemed and delisted.

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Re: Why does KLM continue servicing certain Asian markets while its other European competitors can't?

DL seems to do a great job of providing feeds from the US. If you look at KLM's US network, the amount of destinations served and frequency on existing routes is lower than that of other European giants. This allows KLM to use more long haul aircraft on Eastern routes. Oh yeah, a side note here: On...

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Re: New Thai carrier “Really Cool Airlines”

I don't really associate Thailand with being "cool", temperature wise. I have to say I like the livery. Let's see if this gets off the ground. Interesting to note that Really Cool Airlines is one of four new applicants to operate flights within Thailand, the other being P80 Air (planning t...

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Re: China Airlines to launch Prague

https://www.prg.aero/en/route-development

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Re: Philippines post-BK fleet strategy

I don’t know much about Philippine aviation, but will the airport currently being constructed in the Bulacan area be a game changer for PR? This might open up possibilities for a world class hub for PR in Manila.

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Re: LOT Air Unusual Routing

slinky09 wrote:
Am surprised that LOT overflies Russia given Poland's stance on the war. Did Russia not ban Polish overflying?

They don’t, they’re zig-zagging to avoid North Korean and Russian airspace. They remain south of the Russian border overflying Kazakhstan as we speak.

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Re: Heathrow regains crown as Europe's busiest airport

Clydenairways wrote:
What about Istanbul ?

According OAG IST is 2nd in Europe, behind LHR (1st) when it comes to seat capacity. I realize that doesn't equal the actual number of passengers. Can't find those numbers.

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Re: Virgin Atlantic to join Sky Team

Great news for VS and ST, but most of all for Sky Team travellers! I'm struggling to think of any cities in the world which have strong long-haul (i.e. more than 4 or 5 hours flying distance with an Airbus/Boeing jet) coverage from all 3 alliances. New York is the only other place I can think of... ...

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Re: Using the same IATA code

Not entirely sure if that’s a good example. KLM Asia is registered in the same country as KLM, operating Dutch registered aircraft out of the same base. No different than KLM Cityhopper for comparison. (Off topic, didn’t AF operate CDG-TPE also pre-COVID?) Sorry, but your information is incorrect !...

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Re: Using the same IATA code

Hi! I have a hypothetical question regarding IATA airlines codes: Can two separate international airlines within the airline group use the same IATA code? To expand and give some explanation to the question: Say an airline group/holding company has an international "Airline 1" registered ...

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Re: SQ Flight Numbers with 8XXX

Hi all, I noticed while fiddling with Flightradar24 that SQ has been operating ICN-LAX with the flight numbers SQ8228 and SQ8229 in the past few days. When flying SIN-ICN, however, they operate under SQ605 and SQ606. Both segments with their 777-300ER equipment. For those of you familiar with Singa...

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Re: Icelandair new livery ?

The recent videos on their Youtube and Facbook channels also show the revised logo/colours. In the videos you can clearly see the logo in all white against a blue background (start of video) and in all blue against a white background (end of video). So I guess they're going for the minimalistic/mono...

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Re: Europe floods - Liege & Cologne cargo hubs affeted ?

LGG and CGN appear to be fully operational. Note that both airports are on relatively higher ground than the flooded areas. Meanwhile in The Netherlands, MST was open beyond curfew to allow rescue operations in the area.

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Re: Air Ukraine and Ukraine International question

I believe (but please correct me if I'm wrong) "Air Ukraine International" started in as the international branch of state owned "Air Ukraine". Overtime the international division changed name to Ukraine International Airlines. Both airlines still operated the same falcon trident...

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Re: Chinese airline to own part of Air Serbia?

[twoid][/twoid] Serbia is not an EU member.. Correct. Serbia wants to be part of the EU though, which means they have to play by the EU rules before they are allowed in. I see this as a long-term strategy of the Belt and Road Initiative. If a Chinese carrier acquires Air Serbia before Serbia is gran...

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Re: Who were the "seven sisters of Western European Aviation" during the 70s?

To be frank I’ve never heard of “the seven sisters”, but my guess would be Swissair, KLM, Finnair, SAS, UTA, Sabena and Austrian: airlines that somehow tried to merge or form an alliance with each other. Not all at the same time, but at different stages in different formations. Again, just a guess.

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Re: All Kos flights cancelled today.

Does anyone know why all flights in and out of kos are cancelled today? Industrial action (strikes) by air traffic control in the area. Due to strikes by the Federation of Civil Aviation Service Associations on Thursday, October 15, 2020, from 08:00 am to 08:00 am the next day (local) the flight sc...

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Re: Light Blue Plane with Clouds at EWR?

I thought it might be Drake's jet but I thought this one looked a little different when I Googled. Then again, I was going about 60MPH past it so couldn't look too long ;) Would make sense since the MTV VMAs were last night in NYC. Thanks for the quick reply! Seems like it was Drake’s jet indeed. I...

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Re: Red Wings SSJs -Return with an Amazing Livery

SR380 wrote:
Aeroflot777 wrote:
Literally some red wings on those birds! Cool livery indeed.

Amazing! How many airline beside BEA (red wings) and Balair CTA (yellow wings) had wings painted other colors than grey?

Although not the wings, the final bmi livery had red horizontal stabilizers.

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Re: Anyone know which cabin this is supposed to be?

https://twitter.com/AirlineLoop/status/ ... 88/photo/3

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Re: BeNeLux Aviation Thread - 2020

I saw some information online that SN will be removing 10 planes while some others refer to 13 aircraft. Which is it in the end? Do we know what planes will leave for sure? From 54 down to 38 aircraft, so 16 in total. https://press.brusselsairlines.com/brussels-airlines-neemt-substantiele-en-noodza...

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Re: Consolidation of Airport Operations

At AMS only piers D, E and F are in use. Only part of B is in use. The other piers are closed. (C, G, H, M and parts of B). Also, departure hall 1 and lounge 3 are closed.

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Re: What are KLM 737 replacement options?

If KLM cares about comfort, and I think they do Yes, and that’s why they fly 10-abreast 777s and 9-abreast 787s. :roll: And along that logic they should go for the 737-8 as it is narrower than the 320 (less frontal area = less drag = less fuel). The 737 is also lighter than then the 320 (=less fuel...

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Re: HO to start 3 weekly PVG-ATH from Jun 2020

cathay747 wrote:
HO? What airline is that???

There’s this great thing called Google

HO= Juneyao Airlines
I had to look it up too

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Re: Why is no airline interested in the AUA-CUR route?

I find it weird that after the dismise of Insel Air, no airline is interested in the AUA-CUR route. Ok, Winair and Aruba Airlines offer some flights, but I guess demand is higher. What do you guys think ? I’m not to sure about the demand. Other than a bit of government traffic and a bunch of (low y...

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Re: BeNeLux Aviation Thread - 2019

I am not familiar with Lelystad airport but why would an airline move from AMS there? From the article it sounds as if there are some airlines that are eagerly waiting to do so. It’s cheaper to operate from/to LEY but the main reason is probably to move P2P flights (like holiday and package deal fl...

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Re: Tel Aviv airport is in Europe?

No, TLV -and the rest of Israel- is not in Europe. Article 1, under B, of the ACI Europe Charter underlines that: B. The Region comprises all the States, territories and islands of geographical Europe as specified in Article 14 A(2) and Israel. Source https://www.aci-europe.org/rules-name.html The q...

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Re: Best Eurowhite Livery

zkojq wrote:
Every time I see a Finnair plane, I appreciate their livery more and more. Saw one of their A350s at HKG a while ago and it looked stunning.

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They achieved to create something elegant and fresh with just some navy blue on white. I love the Finnair branding as a whole.

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Re: Condor resumes FRA-MSY with all-LGBT crewed Pride flight

Being gay and into aviation i just love this! Wondering if this is being picked up in the media with a positive vibe? Especially for an airline the size of DE i think it’s great they’re focusing on the LGBTIQ community. Does anyone know about other airlines having a serious marketing strategy toward...

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Re: United Airlines "Evolution" to Globe Livery coming in April

Not sure if this has been posted yet. Here's a picture of the AMS-SFO route launch a couple of weeks ago. Two things stand out IMO: the "AIRLINES" added to "UNITED" (like other A-nutters have mentioned) and the recently introduced pattern (of which I don't know the official name)...

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Re: BeNeLux Aviation Thread - 2019

Summary of new routes, resumed routes and (to be) axed routes in 2019 (AMS/BRU/LUX only): :airplane: :checkmark: AMS - new routes (or airlines on that route) AMS-TPA (DL) AMS-PUY (U2) AMS-LAS (KL) AMS-NAP (KL) AMS-WRO (KL) AMS-KRN (HV) AMS-TOS (HV) AMS-SFO (UA) AMS - resumed routes (or airlines on t...

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Re: BeNeLux Aviation Thread - 2019

Dutch media report that the Amsterdam metro will likely be expanded to the airport. This will reduce the number of local trains to the airport creating more capacity for international trains (including those to London, Brussels and Paris, in the future perhaps also trains to Germany). "Schiphol...

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Re: CAAC unveils slots allocation/airline distribution for Beijing’s upcoming PEK/ZBAD dual-hub system

Kind of a shame that Chinese carriers wont be able to offer services to both airports from their hubs, say CX flying to both from CAN and URC for instance. So CA gets Beijing's "close-in" airport all to themselves basically. Not so sure PEK should be considered the "close in" ai...

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Re: Luxair LUX-SCN-HAM, why?

Luxair has positioned a crj700 (leased from Adria) at SCN for flights to HAM and TXL. I guess the SCN-LUX is just for positioning the aircraft.

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Re: KLM closes last Air UK crew bases in UK

TOGA10 wrote:
Still no answer to the question, where does KL still have those 3 crew bases?

LBA (Leeds/Bradford)
HUY (Humberside)
NWI (Norwich)

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Re: TPA Announcing New INTL Route - 8/22/2018

evank516 wrote:
Is this considered a DL/KL joint venture route as well?

I do believe so. From the KLM website: the joint venture’s geographic scope includes all flights between North America and Europe, between Amsterdam and India and between North America and Tahiti.

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Re: KLM 747 fleet

Have a look here: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bfc Huh? Don't understand. I think he's referring to flight KL867 that was forced to make an emergency landing in ANC when all four engines failed due to volcanic ashes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLM_Flight_867 Why was the aircraf...

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Re: KLM 747 fleet

Is KLM still flying BH-BFC? Have a look here: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bfc Because it was grounded for volcano ash way back when does it have less hours and cycles than its other 744s? Huh? Don't understand. I think he's referring to flight KL867 that was forced to make an eme...

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Re: AMS gets ready to build new A-concourse

The renderings look beautiful and very different from the current gate and pier design at AMS. I wonder if there will indeed that much trees and plants in the new pier.

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Re: Why Austrian won't fly to MAD?

Because after market research it was concluded that this route would be better served with EW than OS within the LH-Group. It probably is more of a leisure heavy route that doesn't promise the requiered returns for a legacy carrier. If serving MAD would make them more money then they do right now w...

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Re: Schiphol closed due to storm.

We expect that flight traffic will gradually restart around 12.00pm.

Entrances to Departure halls 1 an 2 are closed due to panels falling of the building. 3 people have been wounded. (source: NOS)

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Re: Schiphol closed due to storm.

Schiphol airport is reporting on Twitter: Status update due to severe weather conditions: all air traffic has been suspended until further notice. On their website (translated): Update 11h20 All flights have been cancelled until further notice It's quite an impressive storm here in The Netherlands. ...

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AMS closed due to hurricane force storm

Schiphol airport is reporting on Twitter: Status update due to severe weather conditions: all air traffic has been suspended until further notice. On their website (translated): Update 11h20 All flights have been cancelled until further notice It's quite an impressive storm here in The Netherlands. ...

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Re: Flights from France to overseas departments that aren't in Schengen

Schengen is not working anymore in France, anyway. I have flown several times this year to different French airports (CDG, MRS, LYS, BIQ, BOD on top of my head) from several Schengen countries (Germany, Belgium, Spain...) and there has been always a passport / ID control on arrival. Disagree, not m...

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