Search found 709 matches

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 15
by joeman
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1086
Views: 88951

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I took a few pix of the Port Authority's awesome FIS at Dock 28 next to the stadium, but can't upload them. You can see it on my Facebook page if you want. https://www.facebook.com/robert.salmon.716 Wow, looks like an abandoned trailer from a rural area or a fort I built for some kids back in the d...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1086
Views: 88951

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

We have a similar situation in PDX but there they have a shuttle bus that takes us, after clearing customs, straight to the bag claim hall. If I'm not mistaking a shuttle bus was also used at CLE during the CO international flight days...The below level was a single story concourse before being dou...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1086
Views: 88951

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Filler again, posted 3 times, no luck with delete post option.

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1086
Views: 88951

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

filler

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1086
Views: 88951

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I thought the first transatlantic service from Hopkins was on JAT Yugoslavia... Not sure if JAT service was a "regular schedule" or operated much like the seasonal weekly "charters" of World Airways/Condor to Frankfurt, Rich International/Air Canada to London, and I believe even...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1086
Views: 88951

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

You're absolutely correct. CO began CLE-LGW in June 1999, the height of their hub ops with about 300 daily flights. On year later the PD reported the flight was doing "jolly well" and ahead of expectations. Shortly after, CO started whining they weren't getting enough connecting traffic an...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Oct 06, 2017 8:44 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Happy to see Icelandair finally added CLE to their route map!

Jump to post
by joeman
Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Anyone have an adult answer on how connecting traffic affects PDEW? My apologies, I thought you were being sarcastic. Airlines report the details of your tariff to the DOT -- that is, what you paid for your flight, the number of coupons in your ticket, the routing you traveled, etc. The DOT uses th...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Not really caring whose got the bigger manhood but if a CLE-EWR-LHR routing only counts in the EWR-LHR passenger count how is either city properly measured? Much less the drive to other airport folks. Or am I mistaken on what I've read on this forum? If all the traffic on CLE-EWR-LHR comes from CLE...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

I would disagree that CLE is a much bigger market than PIT. Maybe a little bigger, but for sure their catchment areas overlap a bit, too. All the same, I would love to see what you suggest happen, even if the likelihood is nearly nil. In terms of PDEW PIT is a much larger market to Europe than CLE,...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:30 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

I will guarantee that if UA started a CVG-CLE flight, it would be gone within the year.... UE is only averaging 20 pax per flight... At least it's only a 30 passenger plane...LF doesn't mean profitable and blah blah blah... I stick by my earlier assertion Also, I never even mentioned whether or not...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Could routes to Indianapolis,Cincinnati,Pittsburgh Hartford,Tampa and Miami work? UE operates 2x/day LUK-BKL which is essentially CVG-CLE service. It actually would work with an ERJ (currently 60 seats per direction a day), but I highly doubt UA would be willing or could be able to replicate UE's s...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Just curious why CO announced a major expansion to CLE that started to happen in 2008 (soon killed and gutted below prior ops with the great recession) when the place was loosing money since 2004 or 10.years prior to the final hub closure. Were they really planning to allocate some resources to the...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

So much expertise out there someone should know

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Just curious why CO announced a major expansion to CLE that started to happen in 2008 (soon killed and gutted below prior ops with the great recession) when the place was loosing money since 2004 or 10.years prior to the final hub closure. Were they really planning to allocate some resources to the ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Sep 28, 2017 12:15 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Always found a Smisek remark at the time of the CLE dehub interesting. He basically said passengers don't want to connect in CLE. That would be quite a different tone in the general public mindset than a.netter comments as they purported to pity the inevitable. Customer service and easy connections ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Many a.netters proclaimed that hubs no longer can work in "2nd tier" cities, but we have them (geography is the excuse) and they can't be so close together (but there are examples because maybe the O&D is just so rich). Either way, Hub reduction post merger has been a fact of life and ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:26 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

^Smisek was evil. Or at least incompetent. The point of mergers is to make more money through economies of scale (and eliminating competition), meaning, in this case closing hubs. The minute the CO-UA merger was sealed, hubs and jobs had to go. That's the point of the merger. So they clearly wanted...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Sep 27, 2017 3:21 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

It's not that hard to fill up planes in the summer, but here's a look at Frontier's load factors for CLE in July. Frontier had their highest pax count at CLE this July since starting service. The west coast flights seemed to be quite full and the fares weren't all that cheap considering F9's ULCC s...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Portland, OR (PDX) - Airlines missing profitable opportunities...?
Replies: 65
Views: 5443

Re: Portland, OR (PDX) - Airlines missing profitable opportunities...?

That's one hell of a headliner 'Airlines missing profitable opportunities'! Yeah I know, this is just wishful thinking on my part... :smile: Totally understandable but since I don't believe PDX is considered a "fly over" wannabe by our a.netter experts, their condescending remarks and nev...

Jump to post
by joeman
Tue Sep 26, 2017 2:37 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Maybe some non-CLE a.netters can provide a dumb lecture on the fierce ULCC competition in CLE and how lucky we are to have airline service

Jump to post
by joeman
Mon Sep 25, 2017 1:17 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

Not saying I disagree, but could you provide some articles with CO talking about the losses of CLE? I haven't read many outside of the Bethune article above and would like to take a walk down memory lane if there are any out there. As mentioned by another poster, here's an article in which UA says ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Sun Sep 24, 2017 1:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: UA in CLE: What's next?
Replies: 123
Views: 10151

Re: UA in CLE: What's next?

City income taxes are the lifeline of Ohio municipalities. Property taxes are substantially about schools. The Ohio taxation system may be too complicated but I'm not buying into a notion there is total CLE mismanagement, out control salaries or that government administration operates for free in ot...

Jump to post
by joeman
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:50 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Quick question, how is the DL BDL-CLE route still around? The 2017 LFs are pitiful Jan BDL-CLE---28.8% Feb BDL-CLE---40.6% Mar BDL-CLE---49.3% Apr BDL-CLE---64.7% May BDL-CLE---60.7% Jun BDL-CLE---61.4% According to the Q1 data from 2016 average fares were only at $225, Q2 was $211.... Not so good ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

^ An old TWA vet told me that flight went out loaded with freight and mail every night. The passenger load was surprisingly good also at prop night-coach fares. The flight made money for them, not a lot; but it was better than parking the plane. I happened across that website and that timetable onc...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46561

Re: BA's Next US Destination

Looks like its LAS. Surprised. I thought it'd be CLE. http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/pressrelease/details/86/News-1/8756 Seems like BA is whittling down on their list of cities they were looking at a couple years ago, but the upcoming Iceland flight(s) may change things up. Do you mean BA ha...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Aug 31, 2017 6:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46561

Re: BA's Next US Destination

http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/p ... ews-1/8756

Seems like BA is whittling down on their list of cities they were looking at a couple years ago, but the upcoming Iceland flight(s) may change things up.
-->

greenair727 wrote:
Looks like its LAS. Surprised. I thought it'd be CLE.

http://mediacentre.britishairways.com/p ... ews-1/8756

Seems like BA is whittling down on their list of cities they were looking at a couple years ago, but the upcoming Iceland flight(s) may change things up.

Jump to post
by joeman
Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:33 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Thanks for sharing the article, it was a great read! I had never heard CLE called "The mistake on the lake" before, but I guess you learn something new every day... I think it's time for CLE people to revive the "best location in the nation" slogan after putting up with coastal ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Rich International was also in CLE with a lot of L-1011 charter flights

Jump to post
by joeman
Sat Aug 26, 2017 1:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

TWA never had wide-body service to Cleveland. It was a change of aircraft at JFK. Only wide body service from Cle on a regular schedule was: United 747, Dc-10, 767-200, 767-300 AA Dc-10 NWA Dc-10. Charters such as Rich Air Dc-10 also came in. Also TW did 767 CLE-STL for a brief while, AA 767 CLE-OR...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:43 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WOW Air adds KEF-CVG, STL, DTW & CLE!
Replies: 171
Views: 22393

Re: WOW Air adds KEF-CVG, STL, DTW & CLE!

^DTW may work STL or CVG folks, but in CLE, no one wants to go west to go east. I'm based in CLE and I NEVER use ORD to trips to Europe. I'll switch airlines (say from searching AA to UA or vice versa) for an east coast city (and even pay more) than the lowest fare to avoid backtracking. (For domes...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Aug 23, 2017 7:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

ncflyer wrote:
If only one airline lasts out of this I sure hope it's Iceland Air as they are more lasting, better product for business travelers, better reputation, larger network, etc.

Couldn't agree more, but great news for CLE now!!!

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I wouldn't expect much in the way of connecting traffic from Frontier. It'll probably be just incidental connections based on aircraft routing. That was my first thought, but then S. Glaser teased about "several new destinations" being added soon at CLE. The hint of new destinations is go...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:40 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46561

Re: BA's Next US Destination

This thread is incredible. I've never seen such personal feelings about the economics of an air service route. Words like "deserves"... holy cow. I was thrown off by that as well. I shouldn't have replied but who decides who "deserves" a route? Probably what I should have posted...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I'm happy for BNA but ultimately I find the announcement depressing. So many wins from smaller metro areas on the international front yet Cleveland seems to be without hope. I'm tired of driving to PIT or DTW for decent fares or nonstop service. I'm tired of purchasing a two ticket option to Europe...

Jump to post
by joeman
Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46561

Re: BA's Next US Destination

1. This is a meaningless arguement, PIT wasn't even discussed as the five cities being looked at by BA(CMH/CLE/IND/STL/BNA). 1. It was mentioned in the quote you responded to. 2. BA most certainly has looked at PIT in addition to others beyond those 5. What is "meaningless" are many of th...

Jump to post
by joeman
Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46561

Re: BA's Next US Destination

As much as I love the Columbus area, CMH is really a non-contender for this. Just because a city is millenial does not at all mean a city can sell premium seats on 787. If anything, it means the contrary. Also, the Columbus metro area is far smaller than STL, and a bit smaller than IND. Not to forg...

Jump to post
by joeman
Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:46 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: BA's Next US Destination
Replies: 455
Views: 46561

Re: BA's Next US Destination

I notice CLE fans stay away from such discussions as of late, but true to historical a.netter form, any discussion of domestic airline service at CLE is explained with a blend of neighboring CAK. But any discussion of potential TATL or other, Akron area catchment, and surrounding counties nearby, is...

Jump to post
by joeman
Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Nashville to get BA service to London? "Nashville International Airport is poised land a direct flight to London on British Airways, culminating a multi-year effort by government, business and tourism leaders to secure the flight. An announcement is expected as soon as next week, sources told ...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:00 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Is there too much capacity between Toronto and New York?
Replies: 13
Views: 3313

Re: Are there too much capacity between Toronto and New York

Now that AC has 13 flights out of LGA and 5 out of LGA, WS has 8 flights out of LGA, porter has 14 flights a day, the cheapest fares are reliably in the $75 to $85 O/W. While fuel prices are low, I just can't imagine how profitable these routes can be for some of the airlines. Not too much capacity...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:50 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Westbound “Redeyes”
Replies: 62
Views: 10277

Re: Westbound “Redeyes”

As late as the mid-60s, TWA operated a transcon L-1049G. Westbound it departed IDL/JFK at 9:05PM, dep CLE at 12:05AM, arr LAX at 5:05AM and arr SFO at 7:08AM - at night coach prop fares it was a pretty popular flight even against jet competition. I say popular, although I don't know if it was profi...

Jump to post
by joeman
Mon Feb 13, 2017 12:19 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Get ready for a giant sucking sound Europe bound passengers to Pittsburgh. For what the fares have dropped to out of PIT, including the nonstop Delta to Paris----- I'll gladly drive a couple hours for my leisure trips. Thank you WOW. . . . . Yes, that'll help our a.netter friends with -0- knowledge...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Feb 02, 2017 9:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Delta Grows Cincinnati
Replies: 17
Views: 5268

Re: Delta Grows Cincinnati

Funny how much attention CVG gets on this forum. Those of us from the Cincinnati area seem to constantly be looking for news that makes us feel relevant and those from cities with major hubs are extremely eager to remind us of reality. We are a midsize city with a midsize airport. Most of us are aw...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Jan 05, 2017 9:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WN Summer Schedule Due Out Thursday, 1/05/17
Replies: 175
Views: 16643

Re: WN Summer Schedule Due Out Thursday, 1/05/17

izbtmnhd wrote:
Any chance that WN will take UA head on and start CLE-DCA like they did from CAK?

AA joined UA on CLE-DCA in spring 2016, so...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Jan 05, 2017 6:03 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

Has CLE made their scheduled announcement yet today? I hope its not the 4 additional flights on WN, but something more profound. Cleveland.com was later reporting yesterday either 2 or 3 of the CAK-ATL flights would move to CLE, and a 2nd CLE-STL add. Checking the WN schedules out this a.m. I'm onl...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Southwest to announce CVG
Replies: 112
Views: 13060

Re: Southwest to announce CVG

I think this move shows why "linear" metro areas like Cincinnati/Dayton and Cleveland/Akron would be better served by one airport in the center of the metro areas rather than two airports on opposite sides of each main city. Seattle/Tacoma certainly did something right in that respect, an...

Jump to post
by joeman
Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:58 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

I wouldn't be surprised if F9 or NK discontinue their ATL service from CLE later this year ... similar to what happened with CLE-DFW when a ton of capacity was added. I'd guess that F9 and/or NK leaving CLE-ATL is inevitable for the time being... F9 added one flight to DFW after UA, not sure what t...

Jump to post
by joeman
Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:07 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska/Virgin America New Hub?
Replies: 122
Views: 14647

Re: Alaska/Virgin America New Hub?

It is surprising that there has been no mention of the following cities making an active effort and enticing offer to have a Midwestern/Eastern US hub for this combined airline: CVG ,STL, CLE, MEM, MKE, BNA and PIT all have the infrastructure in place and I would imagine each would love to have the...

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33
Replies: 290
Views: 48660

Re: PIT Update Discussion Thread Part 33

flyPIT wrote:
phluser wrote:

I often wonder how many more years Pittsburgh will carry the "rust belt" stigma.
.


Like the surrounding brethren in Ohio, Michigan. Wisconsin, etc...when the major news media relocates to "rust belt" from their coastal ivory towers to "fly over" country.

Jump to post
by joeman
Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 155806

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

fun2fly wrote:
UA is offering $100 lower fares in each direction via IAH to prop up IAH?

Always interesting....when I think of the accusations at the time that UA would charge more to go thru CLE as opposed to ORD in order to further destroy the hub/ops

Jump to post
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 15