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by joeman
Sun Oct 07, 2018 2:55 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon
Replies: 578
Views: 52406

Re: Alaska Airlines to announce new markets soon

with maybe 40 flights annually on F9: CLE-SEA, can't believe F9 has actually kept it alive at all given their consistency track record

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by joeman
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:10 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

As for the air service at CLE, I don't think it is really lucky to have the service it does nor does it "deserve" more. The amount of service it has is pretty typical for a city its size. Would it be nice to have a few more routes and a flight to continental Europe, sure. Agreed. I don't ...

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by joeman
Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Global warming + sunbelt = actual rust belt & CLE renaissance Every year the government says the Southwest will run out of water the following year. Maybe one day it actually will, stopping the Midwestern population decline. As it is, Millenials $&!#* about the high cost of housing along th...

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by joeman
Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Geowizical wrote:
Does CLE-AZA still exist, or was the Allegiant suspension news just false reporting with old route information?

Who knows? G4 started CLE-AZA during winter 2017 when they 1st opened CLE and not since.

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by joeman
Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:53 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Like many, I believe WW will bow out of the sudden CLE-KEV saturation and that FI is now changing the proposed winter service due to their recent negative financial publicity. For a long time I thought before US "2nd tier" TATL broke out that FI could maybe make a CLE-Europe work and I bel...

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by joeman
Sun Sep 09, 2018 1:46 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: WW and FI Both Suspend Cleveland
Replies: 84
Views: 8725

Re: WW and FI Both Suspend Cleveland

Like many, I believe WW will bow out of the sudden CLE-KEV saturation and that FI is now changing the proposed winter service due to their recent negative financial publicity. For a long time I thought before US "2nd tier" TATL broke out that FI could maybe make a CLE-Europe work and I bel...

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by joeman
Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Trk1 wrote:

When's Kennedy going to make the new TATL announcement for 2019 service?

I'm not optimistic at all, hope I'm wrong...

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by joeman
Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:20 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

So possibly ends another debate on CLE getting the shaft on year round TATL or TATL at all after all the a.netter CO hub debate ending with a conclusion that such a concept can't work. Glad TATL finally broke out from our "second tier" or I mean second rate cities per a.net snobs. Hope CMH...

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by joeman
Sat Sep 01, 2018 4:34 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Just heard that AS will begin CMH-SEA service in March 2019. CLE-SEA has about 75% MORE demand than does CMH. Makes no sense. Year Qtr Market Pax both ways combined 2017 2 CMH-SEA 241 2017 3 CMH-SEA 288 2017 2 CLE-SEA 341 2017 3 CLE-SEA 463 Who’s to say that CLE isn’t coming soon? AS clearly has ex...

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by joeman
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I took a few pix of the Port Authority's awesome FIS at Dock 28 next to the stadium, but can't upload them. You can see it on my Facebook page if you want. https://www.facebook.com/robert.salmon.716 Wow, looks like an abandoned trailer from a rural area or a fort I built for some kids back in the d...

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by joeman
Fri Aug 03, 2018 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

We have a similar situation in PDX but there they have a shuttle bus that takes us, after clearing customs, straight to the bag claim hall. If I'm not mistaking a shuttle bus was also used at CLE during the CO international flight days...The below level was a single story concourse before being dou...

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by joeman
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:59 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Filler again, posted 3 times, no luck with delete post option.

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by joeman
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:58 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

filler

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by joeman
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I thought the first transatlantic service from Hopkins was on JAT Yugoslavia... Not sure if JAT service was a "regular schedule" or operated much like the seasonal weekly "charters" of World Airways/Condor to Frankfurt, Rich International/Air Canada to London, and I believe even...

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by joeman
Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

You're absolutely correct. CO began CLE-LGW in June 1999, the height of their hub ops with about 300 daily flights. On year later the PD reported the flight was doing "jolly well" and ahead of expectations. Shortly after, CO started whining they weren't getting enough connecting traffic an...

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by joeman
Wed Jul 25, 2018 7:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

I wonder how the earlier referenced and supposedly in the works additional TATL to the European mainland is doing

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by joeman
Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Ok it’s official we have a quorum. Fantastic. CLEguy, mbm3, and me. I’m going to suggest a couple of times by the end of the weekend. It’ll be a little awkward to coordinate times over a forum but I don’t know how else to do it. Normally I’d gather ideas for an agenda ahead of time, but that is tou...

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by joeman
Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:38 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

All the shade being thrown at City Hall for the condition of the airport might be a good reason for the business community and media to push for a separate regional authority to oversee the airport, perhaps including BKL and CAK, so the City admin can concentrate on constituent gripes, but it won't ...

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by joeman
Thu May 17, 2018 5:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: SAT touts “historic” route announcement - F9 to multiple cities
Replies: 84
Views: 10036

Re: SAT touts “historic” route announcement tomorrow

Surprised there’s so much talk about BOS; I get that it’s an old city, but it seems like too much of a statement for a relatively... un-exotic route? It would have been exotic and historic compared to places like Charlotte, Cleveland, Columbus, Oklahoma City, Omaha and Tulsa. What’s wrong with Char...

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by joeman
Wed May 02, 2018 12:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Here's an article describing the reactions of European travel agents to their 36-hour visit to Cleveland: http://www.cleveland.com/travel/index.ssf/2018/04/36_hours_in_cleveland_european.html Sweet. Objective opinions from outside of our national media/entertainment sources still promoting the 50 y...

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by joeman
Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:35 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

^Massey--that's cool. I am intrigued as well by the great lakes cruises. I hope those that dock in Cleveland on these cruises get enough time to see some Cleveland. The FIS for these cruisers is pretty rustic and will not be a good impression on CLE. It's a tent in the parking lot. I know the Port ...

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by joeman
Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:35 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

^Massey--that's cool. I am intrigued as well by the great lakes cruises. I hope those that dock in Cleveland on these cruises get enough time to see some Cleveland. It looks like they have a full day like most cruise ship stops. Don't want to deviate from the aviation topics but for the benefit of ...

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by joeman
Sat Apr 28, 2018 11:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

flyPIT wrote:
greenair727 wrote:
CLE will get both "visitors" and "tourists".

All tourists are visitors, but not all visitors are tourists. Again, the article said 30,000 European visitors, which makes sense. I'd expect the number of tourists to be well below that number.

Totally agreed

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by joeman
Sun Apr 01, 2018 4:14 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

CLE-SAN, a market that seems as if it should have non-stop service but doesn't, in Q3,2017 had 328 pax per day both ways, Another city pair with nonstop service prior to deregulation. No sense lamenting, but prior to deregulation, the hub focus, practically every legacy airline serving every city p...

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by joeman
Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

chrisjake wrote:
I'm only familiar with Spirit's ops in CLE, do they operate any city pairs multiple times per day?

In a some markets from ORD, BOS and DTW, and others such as DTW-MCO, maybe around 3 max, usually 2 on multiples at a glance at their PDF timetable.

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by joeman
Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:28 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

chrisjake wrote:

...doesn't look like it.......and my city's bigger than yours.

looking like casual common sense comments are returning without sniping, so far, from those who enjoy it...just because

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by joeman
Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:42 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Didn't Icelandair increase initial CLE service from 4 to 5 weekly competing with WOW, unlike our other 3 friends getting new WOW flights, even if WOW is lagging in CLE by comparison?

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by joeman
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

flyPIT wrote:
greenair727 wrote:
^Note that if you include Akron and Canton into the Cleveland MSA--which would make it comparable to the "Chicago" and New York" MSA".


Did you seriously type that?


Right or wrong I think the reference was about post recession growth in reply #393

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by joeman
Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:51 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

compensateme wrote:
joeman wrote:
compensateme wrote:

Presenting facts is trolling, but making stuff up isn't?

What was made up?


The posting I responded to. Sorry facts hurt your feelings :(.

I apologize for being defensive :roll:

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by joeman
Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:44 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

compensateme wrote:
joeman wrote:
compensateme wrote:
I

No one countering the repetition, I'm a CLE person, whose trolling?


Presenting facts is trolling, but making stuff up isn't?

What was made up?

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by joeman
Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:32 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Repetitious breaking down for CLE fans that they're on the way back to the stagnant place they belong and the notion that it's among the only few low fare markets Do you have anything to counter my assertions, or are you here to troll because what I wrote hurt your feelings? I No has or is debating...

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by joeman
Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Repetitious breaking down for CLE fans that they're on the way back to the stagnant place they belong and the notion that it's among the only few low fare markets Do you have anything to counter my assertions, or are you here to troll because what I wrote hurt your feelings? I No one countering the...

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by joeman
Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:27 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Yes, Yes, Yes...CLE is among has amongst the lowest fares in the nation. In the ball park of Chi-town and CVG but slightly higher: https://www.transtats.bts.gov/AIRFARES/ What's your point? Repetitious breaking down for CLE fans that they're on the way back to the stagnant place they belong and the...

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by joeman
Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

[WN may not grow their presence at CLE as fast as other cities, but they add basically every year, slowly but surely. Not only that, I can't recall the last time they got rid of a destination from CLE. When they open up service to a new city, it tends to stick. I think we have more pressing needs t...

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by joeman
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:06 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: The rest of Ohio - 2018
Replies: 1572
Views: 129185

Re: The rest of Ohio - 2018

I wonder how much of WW and/or FI's disinterest in starting CMH (at the time) had to do with the city not being a "name brand" outside the US. None of the cities in the Midwest are particularly flashy, but I feel like there's probably some more name recognition to a Cleveland, Pittsburgh,...

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by joeman
Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Welcome additions by AA and DL, especially after the F9 cuts!

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by joeman
Fri Mar 02, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How to Revive Airline Competition
Replies: 81
Views: 6058

Re: How to Revive Airline Competition

Is there currently not enough competition among airlines in the states? The najot markets will always have enough competetion but in secondary market the competition suffers. Our ivory tower friends always find a way to dispute this concept. Secondary markets are always and primarily well served th...

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by joeman
Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6921

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

What's the point of rehashing this? The only real data we have shows CLE already hit UA hub pax totals running on mostly O&D. United profitability aside there was plenty of local demand being squashed by the hub. Me thinks that's why CAK did so well for a few decades. Why? Why would UA intentio...

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by joeman
Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6921

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

What's the point of rehashing this? The only real data we have shows CLE already hit UA hub pax totals running on mostly O&D. United profitability aside there was plenty of local demand being squashed by the hub. Me thinks that's why CAK did so well for a few decades. Why? Why would UA intentio...

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by joeman
Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:13 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6921

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

Government and big business never involve gaming

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by joeman
Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:12 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6921

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

Cleveland airport lease restructuring: During 2016, the City of Cleveland agreed to amend the company's lease, which runs through 2029, associated with certain excess airport terminal space (principally Terminal D) and related facilities at Hopkins International Airport. The company recorded an accr...

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by joeman
Thu Mar 01, 2018 4:18 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: United warns of more layoffs in CLE
Replies: 47
Views: 6921

Re: United warns of more layoffs in CLE

United has sent out a memo to airport employees (Customer service and Ramp) in Cleveland that unless they get enough employees to take a COLA they could be terminated. We are not sure at this point if they are planning a schedule reduction, because we currently work short-staffed. At this point I w...

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by joeman
Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Considering the long stage length of CLE-PDX, the fact that this route survived again with all the cuts needed to create F9’s expansion elsewhere really emphasizes the demand between CLE and the Pacific Northwest. From Enrilia latest OAG changes: F9 CLE-SEA JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.2 So this kind of s...

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by joeman
Fri Feb 09, 2018 1:31 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Considering the long stage length of CLE-PDX, the fact that this route survived again with all the cuts needed to create F9’s expansion elsewhere really emphasizes the demand between CLE and the Pacific Northwest. Agreed. I can remember a notion of inadequate CLE-Pacific Northwest as a goal from Ri...

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by joeman
Thu Jan 25, 2018 3:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Poor performance. $49 fares to LAX and $29 to MCO (among other fares) are great for passengers, but simply not sustainable. Take advantage of them while they last. CLE the only market they do this from? No...Wondering how well they'll do with routes like the upcoming PHL-MSN The aforementioned are ...

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by joeman
Wed Jan 24, 2018 2:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

^Why is F9 cutting so much in CLE--esp. after recently announcing connecting flights in CLE (and a few other cities)? Poor performance. $49 fares to LAX and $29 to MCO (among other fares) are great for passengers, but simply not sustainable. Take advantage of them while they last. CLE the only mark...

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by joeman
Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - 2018
Replies: 1388
Views: 112768

Re: What's Going In CLE - 2018

Aer Lingus is an intriguing suggestion. They already serve a secondary market in the US, BDL, and are starting PHL in March 2018. They also serve over an additional 100 destinations across the world through codeshare and interline agreements with Air Canada, British Airways, Etihad Airways, Flybe, ...

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by joeman
Sun Dec 31, 2017 2:48 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 156452

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

lakeeffect wrote:
Then again, wasn’t there an announcement several years ago that a flight to Kansas City was going to be announced? We’re still waiting.


ncflyer wrote:
The airport director did everything but hold a press conference for new SLC service by year end.

Maybe Condor someday

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by joeman
Tue Dec 26, 2017 4:29 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: What's Going In CLE - Part 14
Replies: 1379
Views: 156452

Re: What's Going In CLE - Part 14

    greenair727 wrote:
    ^not good, but certainly its under some type of contractor warranty, no?

    Certainly so, unless it actually fits into the "but its CLE so who knows" dis remark above.

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