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by shamrock350
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:45 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Will the 757's even get the new livery though ? They're due to be replaced by the new A321Neo fleet soon are they not ? Or is the new livery designed to be a convenient 'return to lessor' uniform white with minimal repaint required ? It’s unlikely they’ll get the new livery but safety cards will st...

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by shamrock350
Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:48 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

The g in Lingus has always has an awkward interaction with the widowline, which I’m not keen on, but the old livery had that too. I could live without the drunk/emoji shamrock next to the titles too, 8/10? Agreed. I think billboard titles minus the shamrock would have been nice, it would have fille...

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by shamrock350
Tue Jan 15, 2019 8:38 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Thanks OA260 :thumbsup: I’ve warmed to it now I’ve seen it clearer, the font is basically a modernised version of what they have now and the shamrock isn’t quite as bad as I’d first envisioned. It’s obvious they’ve gone for “youthful” look but I just wish the shamrock was facing the direction of tra...

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by shamrock350
Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:20 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

https://twitter.com/kev_andrew/status/1 ... 20832?s=21

Haha that was my tweet, deleted it after a quick rethink...

It's still available on this thread via another site: https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057383874?fuid=0
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seansasLCY wrote:
This tweet appears to show a safety card for the 757 with the new livery. https://twitter.com/kev_andrew/status/1 ... 20832?s=21

Haha that was my tweet, deleted it after a quick rethink...

It's still available on this thread via another site: https://www.boards.ie/b/thread/2057383874?fuid=0

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by shamrock350
Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Leaving aside the new paint scheme for a while, I do think EI needs to look carefully at its s/h fleet operation in the near future. Repainted or not, the A320s (particularly the 'CVs) aren't getting any younger and the Cityjet and Stobart fleets are a kind of mix and match of various different typ...

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by shamrock350
Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:39 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Looks like the drawings were accurate, that shamrock is small and low on the tail.

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by shamrock350
Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:31 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!
Replies: 89
Views: 12556

Re: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!

The franchise deal is up for grabs again in 2022, Stobart recently requested a three year extension on the contract with Aer Lingus but I'm not sure if that happened. The franchise with Aer Lingus is the only thing thats kept Stobart going over the years, every other experiment of theirs has been a ...

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by shamrock350
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!
Replies: 89
Views: 12556

Re: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!

The new livery has apparently leaked, it's appeared on other websites and social media. https://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p578/Kev_Andrew/aerlingus%20new%20livery_zpskokyoxez.png The new shamrock and the titles are a complete mess in my opinion, it feels childish and dated at the same time. I'm n...

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by shamrock350
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:16 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Brace yourselves... https://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p578/Kev_Andrew/aerlingus%20new%20livery_zpskokyoxez.png Apparently this is a leak of the new livery, it's not confirmed to be *the* new livery but it is a leak. The overall design is what I expected, not too bothered with that but the new sha...

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by shamrock350
Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:04 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Updated: BE being bought for £2.2m by a consortium including VS, Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital
Replies: 321
Views: 51636

Re: Updated: VS To Be Largest Shareholder In New Airline Group Comprising BE And RE

Stobart Air is also to be included in the new venture - what effect could it have on its flights operated for EI? Will the VS owned airline operate flights to feed IAG’s hub in DUB? The offer documents state that the activities of Stobart Air will continue under its own separate Irish AOC with its ...

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by shamrock350
Fri Jan 11, 2019 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Paul Buckley, Head of Social at Aer Lingus has indicated that EI-DVM, the Retro, isn’t going anywhere. In an exchange on Twitter he replied to a user who had shared a Change.org petition set up to keep the retrojet flying (yes, really) and stated there was no need for such a petition. When asked if ...

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by shamrock350
Fri Jan 11, 2019 12:57 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!
Replies: 89
Views: 12556

Re: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!

Paul Buckley, Head of Social at Aer Lingus has indicated that EI-DVM, the Retro, isn’t going anywhere. In an exchange on Twitter he replied to a user who had shared a Change.org petition set up to keep the retrojet flying (yes, really) and stated there was no need for such a petition. When asked if ...

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by shamrock350
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:26 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

https://vimeo.com/103853470

The brand reveal back in 1996 was quite a show.
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I'm guessing it will be an after dark operation to tow the aircraft from Hanger 3 to Aer Lingus' Hanger 6 for the media event.

The current brand was unveiled there and is now the head office for the airline.

https://vimeo.com/103853470

The brand reveal back in 1996 was quite a show.

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by shamrock350
Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!
Replies: 89
Views: 12556

Re: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!

eirflot wrote:
Seriously not looking great for EI!!

Oh come off it! :lol:

Air Dolomiti’s altered livery will barely cause a ripple in the aviation community let alone anywhere else.

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by shamrock350
Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:04 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Not sure it will be to everyone's liking!!! That goes without saying. Almost any change, no matter how big or small, is usually met with some level of resistance at first. The 'green top' livery has been around in two variations since the late 70s so going to a majority white scheme is bound to be ...

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by shamrock350
Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:05 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

That's Iberia with a Green filter, and actually not too bad looking. Of course if IB and EI look like this, will BA conform (!?) It would be similar but then so is every livery with a white fuselage and painted tail, if anything it sounds more like the new Lufthansa or if you're looking for an IAG ...

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by shamrock350
Tue Jan 08, 2019 6:37 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

https://i.imgur.com/8OCMMQjl.jpg Stick some green on the cowlings and a shamrock over the forward door and you got it spot on. The shade is sort of teal green That doesn’t actually sound too bad. I’ve accepted that we’re getting a mostly white livery but if there’s enough colour on the tail, engine...

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by shamrock350
Mon Jan 07, 2019 7:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!
Replies: 89
Views: 12556

Re: Irish 1/19 : New year, new ... us!

The word “refresh” can mean a lot of things. Anyone who claims to have seen the new livery say it’s a green tail, green engines and a new style logo with a new typeface and altered shamrock. The CEO has also been quoted as saying it will take some getting used to at first so I think we can kiss good...

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by shamrock350
Sat Jan 05, 2019 5:56 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations
Replies: 22
Views: 3387

Re: Airbus A321LR current and future airline seat configurations

Are Lingus plans to use the Vantage Solo seat according to articles I have read - the Vantage Solo seat having been designed by Thomson specifically for NB aircraft. This seat is particularly interesting because it is a 1-1 direct aisle-access seat design with a seat pitch from 33-inches! I assume ...

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by shamrock350
Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:01 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Is anyone else hoping for some orange thrown into the livery, maybe as a cheatline? Aer Lingus has never used orange in it’s livery or brand throughout its history. Another shade of green or the ‘St Patrick’s Blue’ was always the go to secondary colour. Aer Lingus has always wanted to shy away from...

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by shamrock350
Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:55 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Seattle going 5 weekly next summer explains the Miami reduction, it's encouraging to see somewhere like SEA doing so well and the amount of capacity being sustained to the west coast when you consider it was abandoned less than a decade ago. I have questioned in the past the logic of building additi...

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by shamrock350
Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:31 pm
Forum: Technical/Operations
Topic: Such a Long Tail Cone You Have!
Replies: 18
Views: 4320

Re: Such a Long Tail Cone You Have!

The tail cone is probably one of the most difficult parts of an aircraft to judge airflow, I believe an extended tail cone is better aerodynamically but the shape also has a large part to play. The 777 and A380 both feature a similar flat, screwdriver like design while all other Airbus models plus t...

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by shamrock350
Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:16 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

I forgot to add there's also talk of a green stripe or cheat line somewhere towards the rear of the aircraft.

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by shamrock350
Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:05 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh

Okay, the word on the street (staff gossip) is that the livery will be a mostly white fuselage, green tail or rear fuselage with green engines and winglets. The typeface much more 'Helvetica' in style and larger, the Shamrock itself is said to have been altered slightly but some say it's staying the...

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by shamrock350
Wed Dec 26, 2018 12:47 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Aer Lingus Announces Upcoming Brand Refresh
Replies: 343
Views: 60160

Re: How is the situation of the rebrand of the aer Lingus?

Ive never flown EI but does the rebrand/refresh include updating the cabins as well? I always heard that they were somewhat dated. The cabins are modern across the fleet, business class is a very strong product while economy is industry standard. The A330s are equipped with wifi, USB ports, power o...

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by shamrock350
Sat Dec 22, 2018 12:10 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Investigation underway after passengers removed from Dublin-bound Aer Lingus flight Strange one. Security breach? Overbooking? Police request? The boarding process does appear to have changed at Heathrow recently, it was all completely automated when I flew out of there last week. Not a single huma...

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by shamrock350
Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:14 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Here's a blast from the past; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmsFa4m54RI It's a video of an Aer Lingus flight from what looks like London Gatwick to Dublin in 1990 but fast forward to the 8:00 minute mark and the aircraft, a 737, lands on the old 11/29 runway at Dublin. This runway is of course wh...

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by shamrock350
Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A350 Sharklets
Replies: 51
Views: 10217

Re: A350 Sharklets

The introduction of the new, larger winglet was originally part of the A350-900ULR study which also came with improvements to the wing itself. Without the new wing twist, the bigger winglet is near pointless so older models are better off keeping their original winglet.

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by shamrock350
Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:21 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Here's a blast from the past; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmsFa4m54RI It's a video of an Aer Lingus flight from what looks like London Gatwick to Dublin in 1990 but fast forward to the 8:00 minute mark and the aircraft, a 737, lands on the old 11/29 runway at Dublin. This runway is of course whe...

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by shamrock350
Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

EI have the new brand and new uniforms announcement in January. Will it happen or will it be another EI melt down? January is usually a bleak month anyway!! The livery refresh is due in January. The original announcement for the uniforms stated Spring unless that’s been brought forward. As for a me...

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by shamrock350
Thu Dec 20, 2018 1:08 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Delighted to see Air Baltic return, great airline to fly with and the CSeries/A220 makes a huge difference.

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by shamrock350
Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:02 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Wizz Air To Overtake Easyjet as Biggest London Luton Airline (11 based aircraft)
Replies: 52
Views: 6217

Re: Wizz Air To Overtake Easyjet as Biggest London Luton Airline (11 based aircraft)

One last note. Remembering back to when FR flew Romanian 1-11s and elderly 737 cast offs, we were convinced (and sad that) Aer Lingus starting up on the Dublin route would be the end Ryanair! How spectacularly wrong we were...... Aer Lingus started STN before Ryanair. When Ryanair followed shortly ...

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by shamrock350
Tue Dec 18, 2018 3:06 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Edit: The Etihad had to be towed off I believe. Disruption only lasted 30 minutes or so but long enough for a few diverts!

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by shamrock350
Fri Dec 14, 2018 5:49 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

I think it’s a good compromise, Aer Lingus need to be incredibly cost conscious in all areas of the business but especially in short haul. The addition of bespoke catering on an 8 aircraft operation would complicate the relatively simple formula on short haul and inevitably add unnecessary costs to ...

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by shamrock350
Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:22 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...
Replies: 188
Views: 21549

Re: Irish 12/18: December Dreaming ...

Isn’t Mike Rutter, the COO, leaving Aer Lingus along with Kavanagh next year? I’m sure I heard he was but it could also be wishful thinking on my part. While I’m sure he’s perfectly qualified for the job, his arrogance and communication skills get in the way. I have a lot of sympathy for anyone at A...

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by shamrock350
Tue Nov 27, 2018 3:41 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

Airbus considering an 'A330neo Regional' version with reduced MTOW. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-26/airbus-plans-a330neo-tweak-to-fend-off-boeing-s-new-mid-size-jet This might be of interest to Aer Lingus. They had originally ordered a version of the A350-900 with de-rated thrust...

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by shamrock350
Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:57 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LOT Polish win tender for Vilnius- London City
Replies: 15
Views: 4945

Re: LOT Polish win tender for Vilnius- London City

As for people saying Ryanair and wizz already serve London, well they are ultra low cost carriers and their schedules may not work, are they daily? Next Summer to VNO looks something like this; STN Ryanair - Daily LTN Ryanair - 5 Weekly Wizz - 2 Daily So it's pretty decent, Ryanair tends to be a li...

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by shamrock350
Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Movie about Swissair
Replies: 18
Views: 3692

Re: Movie about Swissair

I also watched it on YouTube a few years back, pity it's gone as it was a very well made movie. One of the standout scenes for me was the new girl working for Swissair checking her passengers in at a busy Zurich when the announcement of the grounding is made, everyone stops, the staff look at each o...

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by shamrock350
Sat Nov 24, 2018 3:54 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: LOT Polish win tender for Vilnius- London City
Replies: 15
Views: 4945

Re: LOT Polish win tender for Vilnius- London City

I'm not entirely convinced this route is needed, I know the Lithuanian government have been looking into securing either an LHR or LCY service for some time due to supposed demand from local business but both Ryanair and Wizzair serve Vilnius very well from London with decent schedules, low fares an...

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by shamrock350
Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

I wonder if Westjet is proactively moving to Halifax to discourage EI from launching a Halifax - DUB route ... Halifax makes a lot of sense for EI Halifax was under serious consideration by Aer Lingus a few years ago, two A320s they'd recently taken delivery of at the time were believed to be capab...

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by shamrock350
Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:25 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: How is Air Europa doing?
Replies: 30
Views: 6132

Re: How is Air Europa doing?

Is Spain the only country in Europe which is able to support two full-sized airlines? The LH-AB duopoly failed in Germany, yet IB-UX seems to function somehow, despite the competition from Ryanair and Easyjet also present at Madrid and Barcelona. There are plenty of examples but Ireland and the UK ...

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by shamrock350
Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:11 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: OAG Changes 11/18/2018:AA Adds ORD-GCM/PLS/YQB for Summer;D8 Suspends SWF-SNN;NK Loads Summer
Replies: 66
Views: 10455

Re: OAG Changes 11/18/2018:AA Adds ORD-GCM/PLS/YQB for Summer;D8 Suspends SWF-SNN;NK Loads Summer

Norwegian have run into some bad luck at Shannon this winter. Attempting to avoid Aer Lingus only resulted in them going head to head when Aer Lingus decided to maintain JFK year round instead of BOS, unfortunate but that's competition for you!

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by shamrock350
Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:01 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

Really interesting GC map ... EI could dump the A330s over time ... and go for frequency at LAX, SFO ... multiple pushes at DUB , morning and afternoon ... A321LR really is the perfect EI aircraft I can’t see why EI would ever dump the A330s in favour of the A321LRs on any of their existing routes,...

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by shamrock350
Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:24 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

Interesting times ahead for Fly(May)be, is Stobart going to swoop in for them? https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46203183 I think Stobart is the most likely candidate but just how much of their own house is in order before they try and take on Flybe's woes? IAG seems unlikely, I'd hazard a guess th...

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by shamrock350
Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:42 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: TAP going "MINT" on the A321LR
Replies: 29
Views: 6975

Re: TAP going "MINT" on the A321LR

Note that AA and Aer Lingus also have lie-flat business class on A321/A321LRs, so it's not just a B6 thing. You missed the point entirely or I didn't make it clear. TP is installing the same exact hard product as B6 which is very unusual. Most airlines operating narrowbodies with lie-flat have a 2-...

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by shamrock350
Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:36 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: A220, (CSeries), Too Noisy for Zurich
Replies: 82
Views: 17300

Re: A220, (CSeries), Too Noisy for Zurich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lhXpgaGg1c

It is whale like and usually happens just before spool up but I've never heard it either internally or externally from an A220 on approach or landing.
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The noise described is usually heard on take off, not landing.

It can be heard at 1:06 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lhXpgaGg1c

It is whale like and usually happens just before spool up but I've never heard it either internally or externally from an A220 on approach or landing.

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by shamrock350
Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:30 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryan ... ?market=ie
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Skyblue39 wrote:
Ryanair have added 2W Dublin to Bodrum for S18


Link: https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/ryan ... ?market=ie

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by shamrock350
Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

I don't think there was ever a lack of demand, the problem was that it was only on certain routes. In the end EI went with standardisation, and removed it from all short haul aircraft. Maybe they will go to the empty middle seat config on the A320s. Not great compared to the 321LRs, but better than...

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by shamrock350
Fri Nov 02, 2018 12:24 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain
Replies: 221
Views: 26393

Re: Irish 11/18: Sciathain na Samhain

Aer Lingus signals more A330s and studies 'A321XLR' Aer Lingus has outlined a five-year long-haul fleet plan which increases its net number of twin-aisle aircraft by three – from 13 to 16 Airbus A330s – by 2023. https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/aer-lingus-signals-more-a330s-and-studies-a32...

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by shamrock350
Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:28 pm
Forum: Civil Aviation
Topic: Irish 10/18: Fourth quarter flying
Replies: 260
Views: 27585

Re: Irish 10/18: Fourth quarter flying

The Air Canada 737 MAX business class product would have looked very weak compared to Aer Lingus once they arrived on the route. It’s a domestic business class so cradle recliners in a 2-2 configuration compared to Aer Lingus’ flat beds. So we’ve got a 3 weekly A330 versus a daily A321LR on the YUL ...

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